Major Nelson Threatens to Bring the Hammer Down on Cheaters [Archive]

Dr.Finger

10-30-2007, 02:04 PM

Looks like some unscrupulous scammers are using Halo 3's skulls, and the difficulty acquiring such, to prey on the vain and the stupid over XBL. From Major Nelson's Blog (http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/10/30/Xbox-LIVE-account-sharing-and-Gamesave-tampering-dont-do-it.aspx).
I have mentioned this a couple of times on my podcasts, but I want to make sure those that don't listen to the show get the message. Specifically, don't share your account information. If you run into that person in Halo 3 who claims if they could have your LIVE ID name and password to recover your Xbox LIVE account to their Xbox and they'll rank you up or find you all the hidden skulls in Halo 3, I urge you not to fall to temptation. While it may be appealing, in addition to violating the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use it can also result in you permanently losing your account. If that 'friend' of yours decides not return your account and buys a bunch of Arcade titles and movies on your account, there is nothing we can do except cancel the account since you willingly shared your information.

Cancelled.

As in you can never get it back.
In addition to losing your Gamertag, you'll also lose your Gamerscore, saved games and any points you have on the account. He also threatens to send those that artificially inflate their Gamerscores, such as hacks and software exploits, to the cornfield as well.

How vain and/or stupid do you have to be to give someone your login for a few measly, and useless, gamerpoints?

OrangePulp

10-30-2007, 02:10 PM

Some people really seem to be obsessed with gamerscore (buying orange box on 360 specifically for achievements, etc.), so I don't find it that surprising.

Johan

10-30-2007, 02:12 PM

How vain and/or stupid do you have to be to give someone your login for a few measly, and useless, gamerpoints?

How stupid do you have to be to not be able to find, say, a link like this here, with pretty pictures, to find the freaking skulls! (http://faqs.ign.com:80/articles/823/823401p1.html)

Agh! Phooey!

And the gamerscore is a lamerscore. Who gives a RIP what your number is? Actually achieving the stuff can be fun, but the number is pointless.

Agh! Phooey!

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 02:17 PM

http://files.samhart.net/humor/fail.jpg

Roc Ingersol

10-30-2007, 02:18 PM

Bumbuliuz

10-30-2007, 02:22 PM

I can only hope that cheaters, modders and other such vile people will get banned.

KingGorilla

10-30-2007, 02:23 PM

http://files.samhart.net/humor/fail.jpg

Stay away from my territory Junior.

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 02:27 PM

Stay away from my territory Junior.

Sir, I found this image fair and square. Therefore, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Of course, I could've used this one as well:

http://forum.alsacreations.com/upload/2043-fail-camera.jpg

Serapth

10-30-2007, 02:34 PM

http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg

Since we are stealing KingGorilla's gig...

Krispy

10-30-2007, 02:36 PM

I think it has more to do with getting the armor pieces in this case than the actual gamerscore. And its about damn time Microsoft starts caring about gamesavers. Those fuckers are the bane of gamerscore boards everywhere.

Shodan2020

10-30-2007, 02:43 PM

Some people really seem to be obsessed with gamerscore (buying orange box on 360 specifically for achievements, etc.), so I don't find it that surprising.

You know, not everyone has played Half Life 2, and Ep1 yet. That's why I bought the Orange Box. I like achievements, but I wouldn't buy any game that I wouldn't normally play just for achievement points.

Shodan2020

10-30-2007, 02:44 PM

How stupid do you have to be to not be able to find, say, a link like this here, with pretty pictures, to find the freaking skulls! (http://faqs.ign.com:80/articles/823/823401p1.html)

Agh! Phooey!

And the gamerscore is a lamerscore. Who gives a RIP what your number is? Actually achieving the stuff can be fun, but the number is pointless.

Agh! Phooey!

You..... you're the LAMEscore! :D

Shodan2020

10-30-2007, 02:46 PM

I could care less about what happens to dumb people who share their account or seek to inflate their gamerscore by hook or by crook.

But -- what does he mean by saved games?
Is he saying that if your gamertag is tied to a Live account, and that Live account is cancelled (for whatever reason), you lose access to any saved games that were saved under that gamertag?

I.e. locally saved game data, no longer accessible locally?
That would be kinda fucked up.

Yes. If you say, accidentally delete your user profile, like I did a few months ago, you lose everything. Even when you recover it, all your saved games/placeholders in games are gone. It's like you never even played them. You still keep achievements and points though, and anything you DLed on Live.

Telefrog

10-30-2007, 02:55 PM

Yes. If you say, accidentally delete your user profile, like I did a few months ago, you lose everything. Even when you recover it, all your saved games/placeholders in games are gone. It's like you never even played them. You still keep achievements and points though, and anything you DLed on Live.

The only way your stuff is really safe is to never connect to Live and use a gamertag locally on your machine only. Of course, your gamerscore would be even more useless, but hey you can cheat to your hearts content!

Johan

10-30-2007, 02:59 PM

http://web.mit.edu/mokang/Public/fail.jpg

http://www.duzons.com/kei/blah/study-fail.jpg

OrangePulp

10-30-2007, 03:03 PM

You know, not everyone has played Half Life 2, and Ep1 yet. That's why I bought the Orange Box. I like achievements, but I wouldn't buy any game that I wouldn't normally play just for achievement points.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I've read some accounts of people getting it on 360 as opposed to PC, only because of achievements (IE, people already have the PC to run it).

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 03:31 PM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/fail.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=1079)

Abash Alarmist

10-30-2007, 03:31 PM

http://www.duzons.com/kei/blah/study-fail.jpg

Best one of them all.

Kamalot

10-30-2007, 04:00 PM

http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg

Since we are stealing KingGorilla's gig...

I can't look at this picture any more. I'm laughing so hard, it is difficult to breathe.

Poor kitty.

Pluvious

10-30-2007, 04:38 PM

Yes.. the cat one is the best.. I had to save it. Love it.

Here's another..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Pluvious/Misc/Fail.jpg

Johan

10-30-2007, 04:42 PM

http://www.the-trukstop.com/jokes/fail.jpg

Yeah...it's cruel. But so is life!

Pluvious

10-30-2007, 04:48 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Pluvious/Misc/Fail2.jpg

Kamalot

10-30-2007, 04:50 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/dewcifer/motivator447399.jpg (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1059660&postcount=808)

All in good fun. :D

[VSK]BadCRC

10-30-2007, 05:15 PM

http://www.lafferty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/fail-24.jpg

Zander

10-30-2007, 05:35 PM

Thread hijacked, but hijacked so good.

Shadowstorm

10-30-2007, 06:43 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/Agentstorm/Failboat.jpg

LiquidRain

10-30-2007, 06:47 PM

Ugh. I thought I was safe from those retarded macros at EvAv. I guess not.

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 07:43 PM

http://strix.org.uk/downloads/files/width400/lolz-you-fail.jpg

Opty

10-30-2007, 08:17 PM

Best one of them all.

What's funnier, the fake proof or the fact that the proof is a failure?

fitbabits

10-30-2007, 08:21 PM

I could care less...<snip>
Couldn't care less! COULDN'T! If you could care less, then what's the point?

Lint of Death

10-30-2007, 08:29 PM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/shipmentofFail.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=1972)

Rock Bandit

10-30-2007, 08:41 PM

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4654/mariofailedvr9.gif

51|RandoM

10-30-2007, 08:55 PM

http://www.digitaluploader.com/1/38dbab3060dcb41ef107a39d1141beb7.jpg

Sonic Cheat Detector Activated!

Lint of Death

10-30-2007, 09:33 PM

The train falling out of a building is my favorite one. Always funny.

Always.

It doesn't even need the word 'FAIL' scrawled upon it.

KingGorilla

10-30-2007, 09:35 PM

http://backdoorlife.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/epic-fail.jpg

Abash Alarmist

10-30-2007, 10:21 PM

What's funnier, the fake proof or the fact that the proof is a failure?

Little bit of both. My favorite is the therefore tag at the bottom.

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 11:42 PM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/7wm5q73bfhnumediumck5.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=2078)

Kamalot

10-30-2007, 11:52 PM

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/asplodeFail.gif

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 11:53 PM

Lolz, Kamalot. ;)

Kamalot

10-30-2007, 11:54 PM

Lolz, Kamalot. ;)

I knew some good would come of that home video.

Evil Avnovice

10-30-2007, 11:56 PM

I knew some good would come of that home video.

Home video!?

That's not you, is it? :eek::(

Pluvious

10-30-2007, 11:57 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Pluvious/Animated%20Gifs/owned-granny-1.gif

Kamalot

10-31-2007, 12:04 AM

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/chuckFail.gif

kid cabelgo

10-31-2007, 12:37 AM

Oh man this is seriously the best hijacked thread ever.

ZeroType

10-31-2007, 02:46 AM

Sorry, I should have clarified. I've read some accounts of people getting it on 360 as opposed to PC, only because of achievements (IE, people already have the PC to run it).

I got mine on 360*, but I already had THAT to run it. I think I'm failing to see your point? Are people buying 360s JUST to get The Orange Box(So worth it BTW) and be achievement whores?

*cough GameFly cough

Roc Ingersol

10-31-2007, 04:52 AM

Couldn't care less! COULDN'T! If you could care less, then what's the point?Keeps grammar Nazis in business.

Though to be pedantic: I do care a tiny bit about what MS does to cheaters. Because it raises the question of what can they do to the rest of us, even on accident. (See: Valve deactivating Aussie HL2 OB purchases.)

And this apparent 'lose your Live account lose your local save games' thing is something we should all care about.

Morratut

10-31-2007, 05:25 AM

Excellent thread hijack.Just laughed my ass off with all the excellent fail pictures. Anymore?

I can't remember what the original subject was.

Just laughed my ass off with all the excellent fail pictures.

Digital Outlaw

10-31-2007, 07:09 AM

Great thread, keep em coming....

Serapth

10-31-2007, 07:18 AM

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/DarkMaverik/YouFail.jpg

Serapth

10-31-2007, 07:20 AM

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/AnthonyWRX/fail-1.jpg

Serapth

10-31-2007, 07:21 AM

http://www.maj.com/gallery/yruugly/photoshops/fail.jpg

Johan

10-31-2007, 08:24 AM

This thread just keeps getting better and better! :)

UglyPimp

10-31-2007, 08:35 AM

http://www.maj.com/gallery/yruugly/photoshops/fail.jpg

I think I'm going to pass out thinking what happened to this dude.

Poor dude :(

Schnoogs

10-31-2007, 08:41 AM

This might be the funniest thread in a looooooong time.

Pluvious

10-31-2007, 10:38 AM

Doesnt' say fail .. but it sure was.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Pluvious/Animated%20Gifs/post-6-93034-owned.gif

Evil Avnovice

10-31-2007, 01:16 PM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/fail_5.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=1278)

Lint of Death

10-31-2007, 01:20 PM

<fish in a FISH>

I've never laughed so hard at an image macro.

rcypher101

10-31-2007, 01:39 PM

Some people really seem to be obsessed with gamerscore (buying orange box on 360 specifically for achievements, etc.), so I don't find it that surprising.

I know far worse.

I know those with Gamerscores of around 30,000 that bought games like Viva Pinata for the easy 900 or so points.

mikeohara

10-31-2007, 01:41 PM

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4654/mariofailedvr9.gif

very nice!

Kamalot

10-31-2007, 01:41 PM

I've never laughed so hard at an image macro.

Why do people call these Image Macros?

Kamalot

10-31-2007, 03:32 PM

http://dump.slaffs.com/dumpat/fail.png

Serapth

10-31-2007, 03:38 PM

http://dump.slaffs.com/dumpat/fail.png

Did you know, apparently this is fairly common?

Lint of Death

10-31-2007, 05:08 PM

Why do people call these Image Macros?

Good question! According to Wikipedia,
The name image macro originates from the Something Awful Forums[citation needed], where for a time the use of a preset "macro" text would insert into the post a corresponding image. It is not to be confused with macro photography.

Kamalot

10-31-2007, 05:59 PM

Good question! According to Wikipedia,

Hmm. Well, it does not seem like a very good description of what's going on. It isn't macro photography, and the captions aren't automatically added through a programmatic macro or script.

What's a better name for these kinds of funny, captioned images?

Kamalot

10-31-2007, 06:00 PM

Did you know, apparently this is fairly common?

Failure? Yeah, I knew that.

Serapth

10-31-2007, 06:02 PM

What's a better name for these kinds of funny, captioned images?

Fluff ?

Lint of Death

10-31-2007, 06:28 PM

Hmm. Well, it does not seem like a very good description of what's going on. It isn't macro photography, and the captions aren't automatically added through a programmatic macro or script.

What's a better name for these kinds of funny, captioned images?
Actually, I think the Wikipedia article is poorly written there. I think what it is trying to say is that users would type a certain code in and the forum would automatically replace it with the corresponding image. For example, when you type a ':' followed by a ")" here, you get ":)". Except, with Something Awful, I guess they would be codes that corresponded to images like these 'FAIL' ones as opposed to little emoticons.

We still do that, in a way, by typing a code that tells the forum to display an image. The only difference there is that we can use nearly any image so long as it exists elsewhere on the Internet, not just a select few that the forum stores itself.

Thinking along these lines I'd say the term 'image macro' fits well enough to still use it, even if it's not as precise as it once was.