Viva la Revolution!

[Vandenh]

Eurogamer has some more information (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60185) about the Revolution.
"We are not making light of graphics and technology - we are trying to make the best-balanced machine that will appeal to the most people."
The only thing I don't get is this DVD playback. I thought Rev would have at least DVD disks?

[Ailer]

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that the revolution will be the console for me. No bullshit, a serious lack of marketing, and none of that media hub bullshit. Hell, they are even making amends for something that didn't really rag on the other consoles.

[Rakael]

I am honestly liking the Rev more and more as time goes on.

[Savok]

DVD playback has killed a PS2 and an Xbox for me. Leaving it out of the console altogether means it may actually last you the whole generation (at least). In other words, Nintendo isn't jamming crap in when it'll damage the console in the long run, this makes me happy.

The USB WiFi thing excites me no end as well.

[Heretic Machine]

This is the first time he's said anything about the Revolution that didn't sound retarded. Good for him, because it's given me a bit of renewed interest in the device.

But he'd better stop "thinking" about putting Smash Brothers on the DS and start "doing" what he needs to get it there. Don't make me come over there Miyamoto <.<

[Savok]

Indeed, wireless multiplayer portable Smash Brothers, what's stopping them?

[Steamtron]

"Considering where the machine will be placed in the household, we think it would be difficult for people to route the typical Ethernet line to it," Miyamoto explained.

Isn't the Revolution supposed to hook up to a computer monitor as well as a TV? I can't think of an easier place to connect a device up to an ethernet cable than right beside your computer. Oh well, what can you do?

[Justin_McElroy]

I believe I'll be kicking it with the Revolution when it's releaed. It's the only one that my girlfriend is excited about (after I told her about DLing Nintendo games). I asked her if she wanted to buy a Cube, and she said, "No baby, let's just wait for the Revolution."

I was never so in love.

[crashedout]

It better be cheap cause as it stands it seems like a Gamecube 1.5. I still have hope and love the Cube, but thus far not impressed.

[Ernst_Jager]

If Nintendo had their way we would still be playing N64 games. I don't see why you can't have good games AND good graphics.

[Kamalot]

If Nintendo had their way we would still be playing N64 games. I don't see why you can't have good games AND good graphics.
If I remember correctly, the N64 was a HUGE leap over the PS1. It also introduced real analog control for navigating around smooth 3D worlds. It also introduced 4-players on the same console and the rumble feature. Barbarians!

Damn! Thanks Nintendo for bringing us the N64!

Also true that Nintendo only wants, N64-style graphics, that's why they brought out the GameCube which pushes 3x the number of polygons than is physically possible to push on the PS2. Don't forget the often mocked connectivity which is now being copied by Sony and the PSP.

Nintendo, must be stuck in the dark ages, right?

You want good games AND good graphics? You do have a GameCube, right?

[XenonCJ]

How can this article make you guys MORE INTERESTED is this device? Sounds to me like Nintendo has just given up on trying to compete with the "real consoles"... Instead it sounds like they are trying to further define thier niche market, for ages 4-12. For all of which I have one word : "meh".

[XenonCJ]

I believe I'll be kicking it with the Revolution when it's releaed. It's the only one that my girlfriend is excited about (after I told her about DLing Nintendo games). I asked her if she wanted to buy a Cube, and she said, "No baby, let's just wait for the Revolution."

I was never so in love.Please forgive me while I puke all over my monitor.

[Vandenh]

>Instead it sounds like they are trying to further define thier niche market

Maybe their niche market is also as a second console?? Works for me. 360 as my media center and a Rev as a second console for the weird games, girlfriend games (like Harvest Moon :) and some classic arcade games (but I might go with Live Arcade for that if MS can expand that service).

[HumpYourWay]

If Nintendo had their way we would still be playing N64 games. I don't see why you can't have good games AND good graphics.


TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BE SPOKEN...

BTW We write the year 2005, Nintendo should get the friggin HDTV as a feature

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

The most interesting thing about this article for me was the mention of possibly making some OLD games online capable. Mario Party was mentioned, which isn't the best example, as they churn out newer slightly improved versions of it all the time.
But if they somehow made this online capability part of their emulation, and not just a new feature of some of the old games (like SNES emus that let another computer be "player 2") you can just imagine the insane number of games that opens up for online madness...
I feel stupid to admit it, as it's all still media hype at the moment, but hearing Miyamoto's confidence that the controller/interface will "become the next gaming gaming standard" excites me greatly.

[HumpYourWay]

Nintendo, must be stuck in the dark ages, right?
You want good games AND good graphics? You do have a GameCube, right?

Yes Nintendo is fucking stucked in the dark ages... this whole re releasing of their old Mario games. And all these Nintendo whores buy the games over and over again... phew pathetic...
Sorry good games and good grahpics? Get an XBox then....

[Steamtron]

I think the revolution is going to do pretty well as a second console. I live with two other guys and we currently have a gamecube, 2 64s, 3 original nes, and a super nintendo, so being able to get rid of all that clutter will definetly be nice. Besides, I haven't seen a whole lot that makes me think that buying both a ps3 and xbox360 is really warranted. I may be a little on the ignorant side on this one, but I'm pretty much tossing them in the same boat as far as actual gameplay capabilities go.

[Steamtron]

hearing Miyamoto's confidence that the controller/interface will "become the next gaming gaming standard" excites me greatly.

He also said the same thing about the gamecube controller. Sure its great (with the exception of the d-pad), but it hasn't exactly taken the industry by storm.

[Goronmon]

Nintendo is making a smart move with this generation IMO. They aren't trying to compete with Microsoft and Sony for the attention of the MTV generation with games like Halo and GTA, and I never bought the Cube for the multi-platform titles. I bought it for Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Bros., etc and as long as they are making those games, I'll be buying Nintendo consoles. Hell, being able to download old games pretty much seals the deal for me buying a Rev.

Its like the reason why I upgrade my PC to keep up with the latest graphical feets, yet I still load up Contra on NES, Zelda: LttP on SNES or FFVI on my PS2. All the graphical advances in the world don't change the fact that games can still be hella-fun without being super-violent and realistic.

I mean, it already looks like both XBox360 and PS3 will be costing at least $300 apeice. if Nintendo can put out Rev. for $150 or under, they'll be golden.

[Goronmon]

Yes Nintendo is fucking stucked in the dark ages... this whole re releasing of their old Mario games. And all these Nintendo whores buy the games over and over again... phew pathetic...
Sorry good games and good grahpics? Get an XBox then....
Yes, cause we all know the XBox is the only system that can pull off good games and good graphics. :rolleyes:

Fanboys and their delusions, ain't it grand? ;)

[Reanimated]

Did they finally announce RE5 for the Revolution?

Because RE was the ONLY reason I bought a Cube.

[Kamalot]

To sum up the article for those who haven't bothered to read it yet:


Revolution won't feature an Ethernet port, but you'll be able to connect a USB ethernet port. "Considering where the machine will be placed in the household, we think it would be difficult for people to route the typical Ethernet line to it" Miyamoto explained.
The controller should not keep 3rd parties away by being too different, it can play any conventional gameplay styles.
Most people already have a DVD drive. By making the DVD component an add-on, people who aren't interested don't have to pay more for the console. People who want DVD playback can get it.
The DVD attachment will go inside the Revolution and you won't have an extra device hanging off of it.
Graphics are not forgotten - "We are not making light of graphics and technology - we are trying to make the best-balanced machine that will appeal to the most people."
Retro Nintendo games may be updated with new features, such as the ability to play games like Mario Party online!

[superherotaco]

I like what Nintendo is doing here, I alreaty have a DVD player, and i'm going to decide on Xbox 360 or PS3 based on media center capabilities, why do I need two media centers? I'd prefer my second system be a Nintendo system, and I'd love for it to be half the price of the first system.

Plus Nintendo is thinking about their younger audience too, if you're a parent and your kid wants the new hot system, and Nintendo is half the price of the competition, obviously the parent is going to drop the money on the Nintendo.

[if76]

I'm excited only becasuse of the controller. Better graphics just isn't gonna get me excited this generation.

Plus simpler textures means less loading time!

[bapenguin]

This will be good. The system will be cheap and accessible to more people and not have the overlap of the other 2 systems. They'll stand out on their own as a seperate product. They should sit very nicely in the market....lets see how they deliver the package now.

[Kamalot]

I'd rather have a dedicated Media Center PC instead of a game console that has half-ass media center features.

Didn't Sony already try the whole media center thing with the PSX in Japan that failed miserably?

[agentgray]

Thanks, Kamalot, for posting this. Here's what I was thinking. I'm not bashing. I will be getting one of these.


Revolution won't feature an Ethernet port, but you'll be able to connect a USB ethernet port. "Considering where the machine will be placed in the household, we think it would be difficult for people to route the typical Ethernet line to it" Miyamoto explained.
"Cha-Ching! Money! Of course, everyone will eat wifi...yeah, cause that's more availabe in US homes."

The controller should not keep 3rd parties away by being too different, it can play any conventional gameplay styles.

"Trust me. It's there, but we are being so super secret about it, that alone will generate so much hype. We call it Virtual Bo.... er...Controller."
Most people already have a DVD drive. By making the DVD component an add-on, people who aren't interested don't have to pay more for the console. People who want DVD playback can get it.
"Screw DVD licensing fees. We want our own licensing like we always have. It's our propriatary format. Cha-Ching!"

The DVD attachment will go inside the Revolution and you won't have an extra device hanging off of it.
"Cha-Ching!"

Graphics are not forgotten - "We are not making light of graphics and technology - we are trying to make the best-balanced machine that will appeal to the most people."
"We didn't get any sweet chipset deals. So we're not pushing the latest and greatest GPU."

Retro Nintendo games may be updated with new features, such as the ability to play games like Mario Party online!

"Welcome to the Revolution. Cha-Cha-Cha-Ching! Rehash! Rehash! Rehash! This "idea" was so "revolutionary" for us. It will change the face of gaming as we know it. Oh wait, that's not the super-secret, we'd-tell-you-but-we'd-have-to-kill-you
but-we-really-don't-have-the-tech-narrowed-down-yet-revolution that will change the face of gaming: smellivision"

[Ernst_Jager]

The way most of you sound, you would be happy playing NES quality graphic games still.
I will agree that graphics don't make a good game, but good graphics make a good game even better.

[Reanimated]

Thanks, Kamalot, for posting this. Here's what I was thinking. I'm not bashing. I will be getting one of these.


"Cha-Ching! Money! Of course, everyone will eat wifi...yeah, cause that's more availabe in US homes."

"Trust me. It's there, but we are being so super secret about it, that alone will generate so much hype. We call it Virtual Bo.... er...Controller."
"Screw DVD licensing fees. We want our own licensing like we always have. It's our propriatary format. Cha-Ching!"

"Cha-Ching!"

"We didn't get any sweet chipset deals. So we're not pushing the latest and greatest GPU."

"Welcome to the Revolution. Cha-Cha-Cha-Ching! Rehash! Rehash! Rehash! This "idea" was so "revolutionary" for us. It will change the face of gaming as we know it. Oh wait, that's not the super-secret, we'd-tell-you-but-we'd-have-to-kill-you
but-we-really-don't-have-the-tech-narrowed-down-yet-revolution that will change the face of gaming: smellivision"







lol

Funny because it's true.

[jacktion]

Nintendo is known for quality, but we have to admit that their Public Relations sucks. I don't know who works for them but they consistently look like fools. If I ran a billion dollar corporation and kept getting portrayed in the media as soft-brained idiots, I would hire a new PR company. Damn, grow up Nintendo.

Nintendo could have portrayed the whole situation in a much different light. They should have said, "We want great graphics, AND great gameplay. The other guys only want graphics."
Nintendo could have spun the whole marketing thing to their advantage, playing up developers complaints that the Xbox 360 and PS3 will do pretty textures but poor AI. Nintendo could also have spun the whole cost thing. Ken Kutaragi of Sony has come out straight saying "PS3 will be fucking expensive. Better start doing overtime, dumbasses."
Nintendo really could have portrayed themselves as a great-looking great-playing cheap console that offers every Nintendo game ever made. They could have had it all! But instead they are continually misstating their case and being bashed in the media.

The poor fools. The poor, poor fools.

[Goronmon]

The way most of you sound, you would be happy playing NES quality graphic games still.
I will agree that graphics don't make a good game, but good graphics make a good game even better.
I think the point is, there are already two next-gen systems offering the same thing, whats the point of adding a third? Like I said before, I don't care if the Rev. doesn't play the next iterations of Madden, Tiger Woods, or GTA. If I want those games I'll buy them for the 360 or PS3. I think Nintendo realizes this. The people still buying Nintendo products aren't buying them to play the same games you can get on XBox and PS2, they are buying them to play games like Paper Mario, Mario Party, Zelda, etc...

[Kamalot]

change the face of gaming: smellivision"
Smellivision! What a great idea! Now you don't need to read reviews to find out if a game stinks! ;-)

I think you are more than a little harsh, especially about add-ons.

By having the DVD an extra feature, you aren't paying for the DVD liscencing cost with the console itself. I know I won't be buying the DVD attachment for the revolution, so why should I pay for it included?

USB ethernet adapter will also be something that most people won't need. Why pay for a $19 adapter and cable to hook the revolution up to a wired network when you can get a wireless router for around the same price and have Wi-Fi for your whole home?

Also, Nintendo isn't making people buy proprietary memory cards. They are GIVING you 512 megs of memory in the Revolution to store your games. With Sony, you have to buy their Memory Sticks. Talk about a licensing scam! Even if you buy 3rd party Memory Sticks, Sony still charges the manufacturer huge licensing costs. You want more memory for the Revolution? Drop in a regular SD or MMC card, the kind lots of people already have for their camera or phone.

While you may be making light of the fact that you can buy extras for the Revolution, it is a far better thing that these things be optional and not included in the price of entry.

Perfect example is the PS3, the most expensive of the 3 consoles. Why? Do I really want or need a bluray player to play games? PS3 isn't even giving you a hard drive but charging the most for their hardware? Want a hard drive? Cha-Ching!

What about Microsoft that is only giving you an ethernet port and no wi fi? Need to buy an extra adapter?

Cha-Ching!

When put into perspective, it looks like the other companies are the scam artists and Nintendo is keeping it focused on the games.

[Goronmon]

Nintendo is known for quality, but we have to admit that their Public Relations sucks. I don't know who works for them but they consistently look like fools. If I ran a billion dollar corporation and kept getting portrayed in the media as soft-brained idiots, I would hire a new PR company. Damn, grow up Nintendo.

Nintendo could have portrayed the whole situation in a much different light.
The people that look at Nintendo as soft-brained idiots are the same people who believe that the Killzone demo wasn't FMV.

IMO, its too early in the game for Nintendo to be hyping their product in any way, its still not coming out until when? The end of the next year?

Its been my experience that hyping something way too early in development just causes people to lose interest after a while and is a waste of money. For instance, right now, I have hardly even thought about whether or not I am going to buy a PS3, its just too early for me to care either way.

[RevGored]

You know what I love about the Revolution? Absolutely no concrete info whatsoever, save for basic heresay from Nintendo. This console is grrrrrrreat!

I love Nintendo, and will buy it sight unseen, don't get me wrong - however, trying to form an opinion on something that, right now, has the exact same physical and informational presence as the Phantom is ridiculous. People that have already started the next-gen console war are worse than the company that is trying to kick-start the next generation themselves.

[Demo_Boy]

Actually there is a lot of concrete information about what it is not.

Personally I think the Rev should have an ethernet port. Like how expensive could it be?

And DVD support, well I guess N is thinking that players will have another console that does play DVDs so no need to support it. But that automatically means that if I'm buying only one system it won't be the Rev.

[YoungAlCapone]

So far the revolution is the only Next gen console I am sold on. I have loved nintendo games and grew up playing them. Sure, Im interested in what the controller is going to be like but thats not what has me sold on it, what I already know is that I will have a huge library of games that I have either wanted to play and never got to or want to replay right off the bat. I know some people are not interested in this, but I damn well am and am very excited about it. I know I will get one of the other two, just not sure which yet, dont even really care.

[Kamalot]

You know what I love about the Revolution? Absolutely no concrete info whatsoever, save for basic heresay from Nintendo. This console is grrrrrrreat!
Would you rather have no info...
...or a bunch of lies?

I'm sure they could show a bunch of pre-rendered video and hype everyone up for it; then start pulling features out, jacking up the price and showing real gameplay that looks much worse than the pre-rendered footage.

Then they'd be Sony.



I like the Nintendo approach. The promises they have made are simple.

Wi-Fi built in
First party online games have no service charge, free to play online.
When you see the graphics, you will say, "WOW"
Downloadable games from all of Nintendo's retro home consoles.
Internal memory, so no need for memory cards
Small
Ability to playback DVDs with internal attachment
Wireless Controllers

This means a lot more to me than reading off a spec sheet for the PS3.

[Kamalot]

Did they finally announce RE5 for the Revolution?

Because RE was the ONLY reason I bought a Cube.
I hear that RE5 will be announced for the Revolution, once more details are available.

http://www.gametab.com/news/326899/

Dunno if it will happen though. Truthfully, if Resident Evil is the ONLY thing you want to play on Nintendo's system, you are probably better off getting one of the other consoles.

Honest and true.

[Goronmon]

This means a lot more to me than reading off a spec sheet for the PS3.
Quoted for truth.

For me, its still way to early to care about specifics of either the Revolution or PS3. I buy consoles for the games, its how I always did it. I bought Gamecube for Super Smash Bros Melee, then I bought PS2 to play GT3, then I bought XBox to play Halo. These purchases were fairly spread out (over the course of a couple years), but for all the systems, the only thing that I cared about when it came down to it was whether or not there were game(s) that I just had to own.

Edit: I mean, I know I'll prolly end up getting an XBox360, but for some reason, I just can't bring myself to pre-order a system when I haven't seen a finished game yet.

[mister_slim]

So are we at the point now where people who just care about the games are a niche market?

What about Microsoft that is only giving you an ethernet port and no wi fi? Need to buy an extra adapter?
And why isn't MS giving me online play for free?

[XenonCJ]

Would you rather have no info...
...or a bunch of lies?

I'm sure they could show a bunch of pre-rendered video and hype everyone up for it; then start pulling features out, jacking up the price and showing real gameplay that looks much worse than the pre-rendered footage.

Then they'd be Sony.



I like the Nintendo approach. The promises they have made are simple.

Wi-Fi built in
First party online games have no service charge, free to play online.
When you see the graphics, you will say, "WOW"
Downloadable games from all of Nintendo's retro home consoles.
Internal memory, so no need for memory cards
Small
Ability to playback DVDs with internal attachment
Wireless Controllers
This means a lot more to me than reading off a spec sheet for the PS3.A million times zero is still zero.

[agentgray]

Smellivision! What a great idea! Now you don't need to read reviews to find out if a game stinks! ;-)

I think you are more than a little harsh, especially about add-ons.Yeah I was being a little harsh. Anything said can be spun into what you want it to say. Well...

Like I said, I'll still be getting one. I just wanted to be the devil's advocate.

[Achilles]

Personally I think the Rev should have an ethernet port. Like how expensive could it be?You’ve got to think like Nintendo; the point isn’t that they don’t want to add an Ethernet port, the point is they want to sell you a dongle with a USB connection on it. If it just had an Ethernet port you could use any old cable instead of theirs. They can also multi-purpose the port; for example use the same port for the e-card reader, or GBA player.

About the graphics vs gameplay thing; I think it’s funny how many people assume that the gameplay will be better just because the machine is weaker. The gameplay will be Nintendo gameplay no matter how powerful the machine is, the only difference is that instead of getting a Mario that looks like the Xbox Conker, you get a Mario that looks like Mario Sunshine. And bashing the PS3 and the 360 because they have media hub features? You don’t need to use them you know, the 360 in particular is pretty much centered around games. I get the feeling that the PS3 will be as well but that’s not what Sony’s saying.

The Rev to me is an attempt to make a second console for Nintendo fans. It'll sit next to the 360 and play the 2 or 3 Nintendo games that come out every year.

There was a brief mention of connectivity in this thread as well. Connectivity is an unimportant feature. Its unimportance is made obvious by how much Nintendo themselves have supported it. The PS3’s connectivity with the PSP will also become nothing more than a bullet point after one or two attempts to make a game that uses it.

[Goronmon]

And bashing the PS3 and the 360 because they have media hub features? You don’t need to use them you know, the 360 in particular is pretty much centered around games.
You may not have to use them, but you sure are paying out of your ass for them.

[Nessus]

Honestly, as far as graphics are concerned, I'm not worried.

Rev will obviously be more powerful than the orginal Xbox and if the Xbox can pull off Chronicles Of Riddick, I quite honestly would be satisfied with slightly better than Riddick quality graphics.

It's like other people have been saying, I've resolved myself to the fact that if I want the absolute best graphics I'll have to get one of the other two consoles (and spend $400 doing it).

So far the thought of free online Smash Bros. excites me more than anything that's been announced for the other two. But then again I'm a Nintendo fan and I got a GameCube before I got a PS2 and Xbox.

People always talk about their GameCubes collecting dust, well it's my PS2 that does that. And with all those damn little ridges it's really hard to get out.

[Goronmon]

The Rev to me is an attempt to make a second console for Nintendo fans. It'll sit next to the 360 and play the 2 or 3 Nintendo games that come out every year.
Sounds good to me.

[agentgray]

The Rev to me is an attempt to make a second console for Nintendo fans. It'll sit next to the 360 and play the 2 or 3 Nintendo games that come out every year.
You might not be too far from the truth there...

[Kamalot]

You’ve got to think like Nintendo; the point isn’t that they don’t want to add an Ethernet port, the point is they want to sell you a dongle with a USB connection on it. If it just had an Ethernet port you could use any old cable instead of theirs. They can also multi-purpose the port; for example use the same port for the e-card reader, or GBA player.

They never specified that it would have to be a Nintendo USB-Ethernet adapter. You may be able to use any number of USB ethernet adapters.

The inclusion of a USB port opens many possibilities.

Keyboards, mice, webcams, etc.

[president_fred]

The Rev to me is an attempt to make a second console for Nintendo fans. It'll sit next to the 360 and play the 2 or 3 Nintendo games that come out every year.
I would just like to add that nintendo release a great deal more games than the puny 2-3 of your estimation I believe the true number lies somewhere in the high 6-8's ;) . I take your point though. For me the Rev. will be a secondary console on which I will play first party games.

[Achilles]

You may not have to use them, but you sure are paying out of your ass for them.That's certainly true of the PS3 it seems. But $300 for the 360 seems to be a reasonable price. Most of those features are software so it doesn't make the machine itself any more expensive. I just have no idea what kind of market the PS3 thinks it has.They never specified that it would have to be a Nintendo USB-Ethernet adapter. You may be able to use any number of USB ethernet adapters.Do you actually think they'll let you plug any kind of adaptor you want into the port? I mentioned that it was multi-purpose; that saves them money because they don't need a separate port for the e-card reader/GBA connection/ whatever else. The adaptor they’re talking about will probably also be wireless, unless they’re just lying that their reason for not adding an Ethernet port is because they don’t want people running a wire to the system (which I can appriciate, I'm always tripping over my Live Xbox cable).I would just like to add that nintendo release a great deal more games than the puny 2-3 of your estimation I believe the true number lies somewhere in the high 6-8's ;) . I take your point though. For me the Rev. will be a secondary console on which I will play first party games. You're right, maybe 2-3 big sellers but for sure more than 2-3 per year. It seems a lot of Nintendo fans (if not all) are perfectly happy having a separate console to play their Nintendo games on. This was always my argument against Nintendo going 3rd party; playing Nintendo games on a Nintendo console is part of the experience. Playing them on an Xbox instead would lose something so significant that it’s just not worth doing.

[eeje13]

Based off what I've been seeing in forums and what-not:

60% of us sound like we'll get the Revolution as a second system.
20% of us sound like we'll get it as your third system.
15% of us sound like we'll get it before either a 360 or PS3.

If 95% of every gamer buys a Revolution, I'd say that Nintendo will do fairly well this round.

I'm not sure if I should go 360 or PS3 myself, but the Revolution is a certainty.

[OSX]

Yes Nintendo is fucking stucked in the dark ages... this whole re releasing of their old Mario games. And all these Nintendo whores buy the games over and over again... phew pathetic...
Sorry good games and good grahpics? Get an XBox then....

Its all a question on whether you want the Mario Adapter or the Halo Adapter I suppose. To each his own, I say!

[31 Flavas]

Did they finally announce RE5 for the Revolution?

Because RE was the ONLY reason I bought a Cube.It's so difficult to part with $99, but, whatever, you have a GC now. Is RE4 the ONLY game, new or used, that you have for it?

If no, you have a GC now, whatever the circumstance, are you honestly going to tell me there is nothing else in the entire GC library that you can find?

[Hellstorm]

Thanks, Kamalot, for posting this. Here's what I was thinking. I'm not bashing. I will be getting one of these.


"Cha-Ching! Money! Of course, everyone will eat wifi...yeah, cause that's more availabe in US homes."

"Trust me. It's there, but we are being so super secret about it, that alone will generate so much hype. We call it Virtual Bo.... er...Controller."
"Screw DVD licensing fees. We want our own licensing like we always have. It's our propriatary format. Cha-Ching!"

"Cha-Ching!"

"We didn't get any sweet chipset deals. So we're not pushing the latest and greatest GPU."

"Welcome to the Revolution. Cha-Cha-Cha-Ching! Rehash! Rehash! Rehash! This "idea" was so "revolutionary" for us. It will change the face of gaming as we know it. Oh wait, that's not the super-secret, we'd-tell-you-but-we'd-have-to-kill-you
but-we-really-don't-have-the-tech-narrowed-down-yet-revolution that will change the face of gaming: smellivision"


Oh, you want to use that new gun in Halo 3? That'll be $1.00.
Oh, you want to download that new Halo 3 level? That'll be $10.00.
Oh, you want to download the reworked bianaries so you can play Halo on your 360? That's $10.00
Oh, you want to download the reworked bianaries so you can play Halo 2 on your 360? PGR? PGR2? $10. $10, $10!
Oh you want to play a game that didn't sell well on the Xbox? Too bad we aren't going to spend the manpower to redo the code and bianaries and test to make sure everything works, sides didn't you read the fine print? We said only the MOST popular games. but if we did, It would cost you $10.
Oh you want that new user made texture for Master Cheif from that Ha><0r down the street? $.25
Oh, you want to go online EVERY day and not just on weekends and with select games? $50.00

Yes, all hail the advent of Microsofts micropayments, because ONLY Nintendo is off to make a buck on their users, I mean how dare Nintendo make their online network free 24/7/365. For shame Nintendo... for shame. If only Yamauchi was still around...

[Steamtron]

How can this article make you guys MORE INTERESTED is this device? Sounds to me like Nintendo has just given up on trying to compete with the "real consoles"... Instead it sounds like they are trying to further define thier niche market, for ages 4-12. For all of which I have one word : "meh".

I would say that with the back catalogue that Revolution is offering, Nintendo has really done a lot to attract an older audience. People in my age bracket (20-30) who grew up on Nintendo and Sega all seem to be looking forward to Revolution just for the old games. The new games that will be released for it will be what I buy the console for, but for nostalgic gamers such as myself, Revolution is shaping up to be one hell of a sweet deal

[Kamalot]

Do you actually think they'll let you plug any kind of adaptor you want into the port?
Why not? You can plug any kind of SD card into the SD card slot. They aren't selling Nintendo memory cards any more. Why not USB ethernet adapters?

Granted, they'll sell Nintendo-flavored ones as the officially supported model. If someone has trouble getting online and they call Nintendo, they'll have to be able to support one adapter.

I bet you'll find that all kinds of wired ethernet adapters work due to sharing a chipset.

[*Legion*]

Oh, you want to use that new gun in Halo 3? That'll be $1.00.
Oh, you want to download that new Halo 3 level? That'll be $10.00.
Oh, you want to download the reworked bianaries so you can play Halo on your 360? That's $10.00
Oh, you want to download the reworked bianaries so you can play Halo 2 on your 360? PGR? PGR2? $10. $10, $10!
Oh you want to play a game that didn't sell well on the Xbox? Too bad we aren't going to spend the manpower to redo the code and bianaries and test to make sure everything works, sides didn't you read the fine print? We said only the MOST popular games. but if we did, It would cost you $10.
Oh you want that new user made texture for Master Cheif from that Ha><0r down the street? $.25
Oh, you want to go online EVERY day and not just on weekends and with select games? $50.00

Yes, all hail the advent of Microsofts micropayments, because ONLY Nintendo is off to make a buck on their users, I mean how dare Nintendo make their online network free 24/7/365. For shame Nintendo... for shame. If only Yamauchi was still around...

Isn't it nice to be able to rattle off shit and pretend it's meaningful?

[Hellstorm]

Isn't it nice to be able to rattle off shit and pretend it's meaningful?


You don't know how real most of that is, especially the backwards compatability. Oh and micropayments. Yeah baby, it's all about the micropayments.

[RevGored]

You don't know how real most of that is, especially the backwards compatability. Oh and micropayments. Yeah baby, it's all about the micropayments.

Ya, you're right, too bad Yamauchi WASN'T still around, it'd be nice to have a madman who clings to a dying ideal of personal honor over consumer wants at the helm of a major corporation

[Zeal]

I expect the Revolution to be a cheap little upgrade from the Cube. As long as it's under 200, it'll sell fine.