Xbox 360 Spanked in Europe as PS3 Beats it Handsomely [Archive]

fitbabits

10-23-2007, 07:53 PM

Bill Gates, J Allard, Robbie Bach, Steve Balmer, Kevin Johnson, Don Mattrick... Your console took a hell of a beating in Europe, as reported by Computer & Video Games (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=174190).

Here are the hardware figures for Europe for the week ending 21 Oct:

* DS: 171,260
* Wii: 70,322
* PS3: 64,087
* PS2: 57,152
* PSP: 54,449
* 360: 37,303
* GBA: 2,2861

Total: 456,859
BTW, while the title and intro may seem initially inflammatory, they're both based on a particularly (in)famous outburst by Bjørge Lillelien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rge_Lillelien), a Norwegian sports journalist who is sadly no longer with us!

Johan

10-23-2007, 07:55 PM

NA: 360
Japan: Wii
EU: PS3/Wii ?

Interesting...

violentp

10-23-2007, 07:58 PM

Man, I know you're just citing the title of the source but shit, some need posting school. Regardless, good news for Sony I guess. Let's see if MS's tactic to concentrate on European markets help them out of that slump.

oldjadedgamer

10-23-2007, 08:00 PM

Ok... I'm not going to click the link yet but I'm going to take a wild guess on their source of their numbers and I'm guessing it's a site that is widely banned on many game forums.

Ok, here I go...

Edit after looking:

Bingo, I'm the big winner. Same source that said Metroid outsold Bioshock.

fitbabits

10-23-2007, 08:01 PM

Man, I know you're just citing the title of the source but shit, some need posting school.
Me?? Say it ain't so!

Krispy

10-23-2007, 08:01 PM

Are those figures to a power?... Otherwise the total units sold would be smaller than the the 360 did in the states alone!

Edit: Oh, I get it. These figures are for only one week.

Vanthar

10-23-2007, 08:04 PM

I wonder if its just because of the pricecuts? Or have those not been put in effect yet? Still, things like this keep this generation very interesting.

violentp

10-23-2007, 08:07 PM

Me?? Say it ain't so!

Not you, the original writer of that line.

EDIT: Showing favoritism in a story these days is like wearing ham underwear in a room full of pitbulls. Sad, nerdy pitbulls.

fitbabits

10-23-2007, 08:08 PM

Tyrant

10-23-2007, 08:11 PM

I wonder if its just because of the pricecuts? Or have those not been put in effect yet? Still, things like this keep this generation very interesting.

The 40gb PS3 has been out for a few weeks now, so I'm guessing this sales surge has to do with people picking up the remaining 60gb units.

The logic behind my statement is related to a recent article that mentioned the 60gb units are getting snatched up in Europe since they're marginally more expensive than the 40gb version.

karak

10-23-2007, 08:17 PM

What is the history for Europe for sales. Was the 360 normally ahead or is the PS3 always selling more?

Guy Mariano

10-23-2007, 08:25 PM

Too bad they can't get rid of those new 40 GB ones.

Exodus

10-23-2007, 08:26 PM

Wow I wonder what brought this about D:

DylonCorp

10-23-2007, 08:28 PM

But, but, but... It's POSITIVE PS3 NEWS! Who cares about the source?

So I'm confused. Are they good numbers or not?

Either way, the Wii wins again!

Edit: And look at the DS. Sweet fancy moses.

suVa

10-23-2007, 08:30 PM

What is the history for Europe for sales. Was the 360 normally ahead or is the PS3 always selling more?

If you lump everything non US or Japan into it...

PS3: 1.5mil
Xbox 360: 3.5mil

tenchiker

10-23-2007, 08:30 PM

Holy fucking shit. VGChartz numbers are still coming up here? You guys are gluttons for punishment.

UglyPimp

10-23-2007, 08:41 PM

This thread hasn't begun until Gorvi has posted.

Draft

10-23-2007, 08:56 PM

Holy fucking shit. VGChartz numbers are still coming up here? You guys are gluttons for punishment.VGChartz numbers are being cited by actual news sites, and then linked here. The world's gone mad.

silv

10-23-2007, 08:59 PM

vgchartz should go the way of ********.

Sandman

10-23-2007, 08:59 PM

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/ps3_prints_money.jpg

See? It can print money too.

Deadend

10-23-2007, 09:02 PM

Wow, all those numbers are sad. How many people live in Europe? and yet the numbers don't even seem to match up to the USA?

All 3 companies need to put more effort into Europe.

Seriously, oh wait.. that is one week.

Is that the week the PS3 did a price drop?

VictorVonViolence

10-23-2007, 09:05 PM

Yeah I really don't trust these numbers.

In truth I really hate "X outsold B by a ton!" threads, they simply don't create interesting chatter. Unless it's directly related to some outstanding event like the launch of a system, peripharal or specific game (see Halo 3)

II ZoiD II

10-23-2007, 09:16 PM

I cant and wont believe these numbers!

karak

10-23-2007, 09:16 PM

Sloth

10-23-2007, 09:17 PM

source != reliable

running random number generator programs to get sales figures, probably isn't a good idea. but whatever

Zanch

10-23-2007, 09:22 PM

Europe has always had an irrational boner for all things Sony. That said, we may have a console war where there is no overall victor at this rate. Each console may claim a territory.

xplics

10-23-2007, 09:33 PM

But, but, but... It's POSITIVE PS3 NEWS! Who cares about the source?

Yeah this is getting so out of hand it is funny how people just decide to hate Sony this generation. I feel when the price comes down and more people own it the bad reviews will start to turn positive from the then calm fanboys :p.

firecut

10-23-2007, 09:40 PM

I've said it countless times before and I'll say it again. If SONY wants the PS3 to become a $ printing machine they need the following features (among others no doubt):

1. Xvid and Divx codec support (isn't this a "multimedia center"?).
2. Skype (they have the camera out now...it's a nobrainer).
3. Internet Radio a la Shoutcast.
4. DV video editing (another no brainer).

xplics

10-23-2007, 09:47 PM

I cant and wont believe these numbers!

Okay if I may please ever so kindly ask you why the heck NOT?

Philonious

10-23-2007, 09:50 PM

Europe has always had an irrational boner for all things Sony. That said, we may have a console war where there is no overall victor at this rate. Each console may claim a territory.

In which case my 'office/playroom' is Switzerland without the ill-begotten gold. It must actually be kind of interesting for European gamers since they don't really have as many 'homegrown' options as North Americans and Japanese gamers. American games are made in the image of the summer blockbuster movies, but these probably don't appeal as much to Europeans as they do Americans, and we can all admit that there is occasional culture shock when playing Japanese games, so I could imagine that the PlayStation brand is more appealing over there since it tends to be more heterogeneous than Microsoft's offerings. Maybe. Just a guess. Also the price drop probably helped since these number reflect only a single week.

Midda

10-23-2007, 10:03 PM

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/ps3_prints_money.jpg

See? It can print money too.
I'd say it's more likely to be ingesting it.

MORGiON

10-23-2007, 10:11 PM

VGChartz numbers are being cited by actual news sites, and then linked here. The world's gone mad.

mmm, I thought EvAv didn't use VGChartz.

Don't the HW number cost a hell of alot of money to get?

Citizen Erased

10-23-2007, 10:15 PM

As much as I hate the 'this isn't news' crowd, I really don't think that we can draw too many conclusions from sales figures FROM A SINGLE WEEK. I'm sure the 360 sales have been slower than usual in the weeks after the Halo 3 launch week (as a lot of people on the fence would have gotten the hardware that week) and the release of the cheaper 40 gig PS3 has got to shift some extra units for them.

BorisCal

10-23-2007, 10:26 PM

The 360 still has a substantial advantage over the PS3 and if these sales figures are true we can't forget that they only represent one week and was without doubt caused by the lower price of the PS3, there is still a long way to go and let's not forget the Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 is arriving this week on the European market and that's bound to move some consoles around.

JimmyDanger

10-23-2007, 11:02 PM

let's not forget the Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 is arriving this week on the European market and that's bound to move some consoles around.

Gawd - I finally caved and bought another couple of wireless controllers for my 360 in anticipation of this....

This is the first "next-gen" game that the European mass market will care about - and expect a lot of Sony fans - who still haven't upgraded - to snap up PS3's and a copy of PES.

Lunar Blue

10-23-2007, 11:31 PM

Okay why exactly, and since when have people reported on weekly sellings? Or was that necessary to get the PS3 (which itself got outsold by the Wii and DS) to take the edge over 360? BTW, has the PS3 price dropped to 400€ in Europe yet? Because if it has, I'm hardly impressed.

PhilWal

10-23-2007, 11:33 PM

The UK PS3 price drop was Oct. 10th, and these figures are from 15th-21st Oct.

KingGorilla

10-23-2007, 11:33 PM

NA: 360
Japan: Wii
EU: PS3/Wii ?

Interesting...

I think it is safe to say that, so far, Nintendo owns the world as far as console games go. So many people want to get their hands on a Wii.

mister_slim

10-23-2007, 11:54 PM

I have a question. On 1up(ya they are tards) they always talk about Europe and how MS has utterly failed there. Yet from everything I have ever been able to find and the few people I still know in the industry this doesn't seem to be the case. Any ideas as to why they always say that?

Europe's really hard to read. The only numbers we see regularly are from the UK, which isn't representative of Europe as a whole. Every once in a while GfK will release some numbers, with minimal context. You can wait for quarterlies for Nintendo and Sony, which at least gives you some hard numbers. MS doesn't release those numbers except for PR purposes. That's why VGChartz gets cited, because no one has better numbers for EU. Or any numbers at all.

tombofsoldier

10-24-2007, 12:30 AM

I could get all of Europe for Microsoft in no time. Make the 360 the same price as it's sold in the U.S. Done, same with Australia. 360 would kick both the Wii and PS3 in the crotch and then thumb it's nose at them.

But does anyone listen? I mean what, does Europe's socialistic tendencies suddenly cancel out supply and demand? Does it cost a lot more money too ship it too Europe, through some inter-dimensional portal? The U.S. pays $400, but Europe has too pay 400 Euros ($570)? I don't get it.

menage

10-24-2007, 12:46 AM

The 40gb PS3 has been out for a few weeks now, so I'm guessing this sales surge has to do with people picking up the remaining 60gb units.

Indeed, I still think this is a 2 way tactic from Sony (and a clever one), boost sales of the 60 GB machines and introduce a more attractive package for consumers who where afraid of the old pricepoint. The hardcore will snap up the 60 GB models while little Johny will be just as happy with the 40 one.

Sales wll slow down a bit when the 60 GB models are gone.
But next year we'll probably see a PS3 elite or something.

All these models are driving me crazy. I will wait a year, see what happens. I've got loads of other shit.

BigJonno

10-24-2007, 01:52 AM

Videogames in Europe 101: The videogame industry treated Europe like shit for years. For a long time Nintendo didn't even have a European HQ, for example. Then, all of a sudden, they started to realise that A) the Japanese market wasn't getting any bigger and B) Europe was big, had room for growth and was getting even bigger with lots of countries joining the EU.

Slowly, Europe started getting a lot more attention and Sony was one of the first companies to do this. The Playstation was incredibly well-marketed here, the PS2 less so, but by then the brand was enough to carry it over until the big releases hit. The name Playstation is synonymous with gaming over here and it's a testament to Sony's incredible fuck-ups that the PS3 didn't immediately destroy all competition as soon as it was released.

Another good story to highlight the Euro game market is the WoW beta. The number of people who signed up for the beta was ten times the estimated size of the entire MMO market in Europe. Hardly surprising when you could hardly find any MMOs on shelves a month after their release and we consistently got late patches and generally shoddy treatment all around.

Gorvi

10-24-2007, 02:27 AM

1) It's VGChartz, so the numbers are probably pulled from fantasy land.
2) Even if accurate, they're coming from right after a substantial price cut, so you'd hope they'd be up.

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 02:34 AM

1) It's VGChartz, so the numbers are probably pulled from fantasy land.

And NPD doesn't? It's not like the largest retailers and e-tailers contribute to them.

Gorvi

10-24-2007, 02:43 AM

And NPD doesn't? It's not like the largest retailers and e-tailers contribute to them.
That's a good point. Do they go strictly by the numbers they're provided with or do they make estimates to account for places like Wal Mart that don't give them numbers?

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 02:52 AM

That's a good point. Do they go strictly by the numbers they're provided with or do they make estimates to account for places like Wal Mart that don't give them numbers?

There is a sizable amount of guestimation from NPD on the sales of non-contributors. Saying that the statistics are not perfect is BS. The real truth is that there are only three sources of console sales, and Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony are not about to divulge that on a monthly basis. The prime example is how Microsoft just flooded retailers with 360 units last Holiday, to meet the 10 million mark, that never got to consumers, but they were "sold." If it really mattered, we would see more reports like we get for film releases.

bKangy

10-24-2007, 03:07 AM

It's the FIFA 08/PES 2008 crowd. Stupid children just get the Playstation since they always just have for soccer games. Sales will equal out in December I bet.

Oh, yeah, and also, if MS would put the NA and Europe prices equally, we'd snap that fucker up. Same with Sony actually, but Sony hates Europe so I don't expect anything of them.

Durka-Dan

10-24-2007, 04:16 AM

VGchartz, while not perfect, tends to come pretty close when compared to NPD numbers. Their report on September (http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=564) shows they were only 14.4 percent off over a five week total. I'd say not bad if you consider they had to estimate the impact of Halo 3 on the market. Another interesting thing to note here is that they also compare their numbers with Sim Exchange and Pachter. Worth a read.

Although you still can't get an accurate projection from VGchartz, I'd say it's at least a good source to get a ballpark figure from. If they are saying the 360 is coming in with about half the numbers as the Wii and PS3 then I'd say it's safe to say they are at least behind in sales in the region for the week ending in Oct. 21 and the week ending in Oct. 14. I think the article failed to mention VGchartz has predicted the 360 lagging behind for the past two weeks, not one.

bapenguin

10-24-2007, 04:17 AM

Man...I don't want to start posting WEEKLY sales ESTIMATES too. Good news for Sony, but it's for 1 week. It's not like this hasn't happened before. In fact, wasn't it just last week when they sold a ton of the 80GB models cuz of the loss of BC?

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 04:28 AM

Reanimated

10-24-2007, 04:29 AM

30k down. 1.97 Million to go to catch 360 in Europe.

*yawn*

Draft

10-24-2007, 04:51 AM

mmm, I thought EvAv didn't use VGChartz.

Don't the HW number cost a hell of alot of money to get?Apparently they do, because they are.

Draft

10-24-2007, 04:53 AM

And NPD doesn't? It's not like the largest retailers and e-tailers contribute to them.Walmart is the only exception. NPD is an industry accepted sales tracker that's used by financial analysts to make stock calls on publicly traded video game companies. VG Chartz is some fucking psychopath in his mother's basement polling gamestop managers on how Bioshock is doing.

Telefrog

10-24-2007, 05:26 AM

If accurate this is good news for Sony, but can we not get in the habit of posting weekly sales figures? They really tell us nothing.

Roc Ingersol

10-24-2007, 05:29 AM

JimmyDanger

10-24-2007, 05:45 AM

It's the FIFA 08/PES 2008 crowd. Stupid children just get the Playstation since they always just have for football games..

Good point my man.

I believed - and still do - that the first next gen Sony PES will sell a lot of units to that crowd (those who are only really interested in football and the ocassional blockbuster game - the non hardcore) - but this years sales of Madden in the USA not on the same scale though - i find it amazing that some Americans can't comprehend that in a few nations in Europe - Football (and following not only your countries leagues, but those of other top football nations, internationals, continental club competitions etc. ) permeates\ the mainstream culture - and is more popular - than NFL,NBA and the MLB and the NHL combined in some countries - and in some football's popularity goes further than all those leagues popularity in the USA combined.

Still - if Europe is a continent of Sony fans - and the mainstream love them some football - 360 still has a larger installed base (and indeed some football fans may have already upgraded to a 360 for last years subpar "nextgen" effort) - maybe Madden sales - in which I believe 360 outsold ps2 versions to become format leader for the title - would be an indicator.

Except that Madden on the PS3 had the 30fps/bugginess issues well publicised - so maybe it's not an apples/apples comparison...

Anyway - I'll not go very far out on a limb and say PES 2008 will be the best selling PS3 game in Europe in total sales by christmas/nye 2007.

Ancalagon

10-24-2007, 05:51 AM

People tend to underestimate how popular football is in europe.

Jimmydanger is right.

Durka-Dan

10-24-2007, 06:33 AM

"for the week" ?
That's stretching a bit for a 'PR win' isn't it?

It's not like the PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 over complete months in Europe.
The problem is that it doesn't stay there. It gets sales bursts when it drops the price and then it fades back again.

Actually two weeks. According to VGchartz here (http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39369) and here (http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39376).

Mot Wakorb

10-24-2007, 06:34 AM

Considering how handily the Wii has been hounding Sony and Microsoft for almost a solid year, any significant boost in sales is reason to celebrate. It would be good for either of them if they could keep this demand up.

The only thing I wish is that there was a decent group of titles I'd play constantly on my Wii - at least I have that on my 360 right now. There just aren't the titles yet, I'm still holding out and hoping they're coming, because right now, all it is my party machine - play the mini-game based games whenever friends are over. If I'm on my own, it's my 360 generally via Live or on my own. I love my Wii, there just needs to be more for it.

agentgray

10-24-2007, 06:55 AM

From the botom of the list looking up it's good for Sony. From the top of the list looking down...

Yeah, this post is stretching it for Sony. It's not all that positive. There's a lot more things I think they can be positive about: I'm mainly thinking some great, recently released PSP games.

xplics

10-24-2007, 07:00 AM

Indeed, I still think this is a 2 way tactic from Sony (and a clever one), boost sales of the 60 GB machines and introduce a more attractive package for consumers who where afraid of the old pricepoint. The hardcore will snap up the 60 GB models while little Johny will be just as happy with the 40 one.

Sales wll slow down a bit when the 60 GB models are gone.
But next year we'll probably see a PS3 elite or something.

All these models are driving me crazy. I will wait a year, see what happens. I've got loads of other shit.

Well it depends where you live if in Europe you only have the 40 gigs as a option seeing ass how the 60 is all but almost all gone. Here in the good ol usa the 60 (my favorite ;) ) is just about gone with the exception of maybe online retailers so you will only have the option of 40, and 80 gig systems. The 20 giger has been gone for a bit now I beleave.

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 07:06 AM

Curse my myopic American Ways. I forgot that Sony still has an edge on the 360 in a crucial global market. Racing Games (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38295) Gran Tourismo is probably the biggest global system seller of any of the Consoles next to Mario. Racing games, even more than soccer, are huge in many European nations.

51|RandoM

10-24-2007, 07:07 AM

http://www.2and2.net/files/471f561212fb5.jpg

"I think we're going to need a bigger boat."

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 07:09 AM

Then why does it keep making this angry face at me?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/365410351_176ef764c4_m.jpg

Roc Ingersol

10-24-2007, 08:19 AM

Actually two weeks. According to VGchartz here (http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39369) and here (http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39376).
Yes, that makes all the difference.
Two whole weeks! Wow! Fire up the PR machine guys!

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 08:22 AM

Holy fucking shit. VGChartz numbers are still coming up here? You guys are gluttons for punishment.
Except that they're pretty accurate.

DaXIthR

10-24-2007, 08:29 AM

NA: 360
Japan: Wii
EU: PS3/Wii ?

Interesting...

Why is NA not a Wii territory? Because the 360 beat the white box by 30K units the month of Halo 3's release?

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 08:36 AM

This whole thread is nonsense. The PS3 FINALLY managed to outsell the 360 after a price drop, for 2 weeks if I'm understanding it correctly.

Draconis

10-24-2007, 08:50 AM

This whole thread is nonsense. The PS3 FINALLY managed to outsell the 360 after a price drop, for 2 weeks if I'm understanding it correctly.

Whats more interesting is if you take the entire months sales world wide for October thus far in comparison to the other three consoles.

Linked....Here

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39362&end=39369&weekly=1

The overall trend is that the 360 sales are dropping some, but are still High, Wii in general is kicking butt as usual, but the interesting point of note is that the Playstation 3 sales are up.

With a 400 Dollar price, and two Titles coming out, one that is a solid hit such as Ratchet and Clank and possibly Uncharted: Drakes Fortune being a hit, that will give 5 Solid titles to generally own for a Playstation 3 owner.

Ninja Gaiden: Sigma
Ratchet and Clank
Resistance: Fall of Man
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Folklore

And for some...Eye of Judgement.

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 08:52 AM

Whats more interesting is if you take the entire months sales world wide for October thus far in comparison to the other three consoles.

Linked....Here

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39362&end=39369&weekly=1

The overall trend is that the 360 sales are dropping some, but are still High, Wii in general is kicking butt as usual, but the interesting point of note is that the Playstation 3 sales are up.

With a 400 Dollar price, and two Titles coming out, one that is a solid hit such as Ratchet and Clank and possibly Uncharted: Drakes Fortune being a hit, that will give 5 Solid titles to generally own for a Playstation 3 owner.

Ninja Gaiden: Sigma
Ratchet and Clank
Resistance: Fall of Man
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Folklore

And for some...Eye of Judgement.
I honestly believe that Penny Arcade's endorsement of Eye of Judgment is going to make it sell 20% more copies. no lie.

ElektroDragon

10-24-2007, 08:53 AM

Central Europe is becoming a socialistic state that hates America. That's why the 360 isn't selling there.

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 08:55 AM

If this thread honestly starts the rumor that Sony is winning in Europe, I'm going to be very, very irritated.

Draconis

10-24-2007, 08:55 AM

I honestly believe that Penny Arcade's endorsement of Eye of Judgment is going to make it sell 20% more copies. no lie.

Oh I agree completely. Tycho and Gabe are usually spot on when it comes to games, and compared to alot of Review sites, Gamers will listen to those two far more readily then anyone.

The fact that they love Eye of Judgement so much speaks volumes for the game. Sony couldn't come up with better PR for a game if they paid for it. The fact that Tycho and Gabe are endorsing their love of the game so much is huge, and will definitely help to drive sales of the console as well as the game itself.

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 08:59 AM

Oh I agree completely. Tycho and Gabe are usually spot on when it comes to games, and compared to alot of Review sites, Gamers will listen to those two far more readily then anyone.

The fact that they love Eye of Judgement so much speaks volumes for the game. Sony couldn't come up with better PR for a game if they paid for it. The fact that Tycho and Gabe are endorsing their love of the game so much is huge, and will definitely help to drive sales of the console as well as the game itself.
Actually, I disagree with your assessment of their "spot-on" ness.

Both of them, ESPECIALLY Tycho, have highly eclectic tastes and aren't "generi-gamer 7". They occasionally endorse games that simply do not have universal appeal, and often do not appeal to me at all.

Draconis

10-24-2007, 09:09 AM

Actually, I disagree with your assessment of their "spot-on" ness.

Both of them, ESPECIALLY Tycho, have highly eclectic tastes and aren't "generi-gamer 7". They occasionally endorse games that simply do not have universal appeal, and often do not appeal to me at all.

Ahh, true, many bashed Enchanted Arms but Gabe liked it, so go figure.

Maybe I am thinking in line with myself. Tycho and Gabe as you said have their own tastes, and I would label their tastes far outside of the mainstream at times.

Johan

10-24-2007, 09:29 AM

Why is NA not a Wii territory? Because the 360 beat the white box by 30K units the month of Halo 3's release?

What are the total sales for the Wii and 360 in NA? I was taking a longer view, not just a week's worth. It sure looks to me like things are playing out as:

NA: 360
Japan: Wii
EU: Wii/PS3

Anyone have overall sales charts for each region?

Ancalagon

10-24-2007, 09:31 AM

Central Europe is becoming a socialistic state that hates America. That's why the 360 isn't selling there.

I really hope you are being sarcastic.

absolut taco

10-24-2007, 10:01 AM

I've said it countless times before and I'll say it again. If SONY wants the PS3 to become a $ printing machine they need the following features (among others no doubt):

4. DV video editing (another no brainer).

Wow, it has a firewire port? :rolleyes:

DaXIthR

10-24-2007, 10:20 AM

Anyone have overall sales charts for each region?

Courtesy of VGChartz, of course.

Wii

Americas: 5.39M
Japan: 3.71M
Other: 3.59M

Xbox 360

Americas: 7.88M
Japan: 0.45M
Other: 3.79M

PS3

Americas: 2.12M
Japan: 1.24M
Other: 1.76M

Wii should have the lead in 'Other' by the end of the year. A lead in 'Americas' is inevitable. And 'Japan' is a cakewalk for Nintendo.

Virtuoso

10-24-2007, 10:53 AM

I wonder I this has anything to do with the complete and total lack of backwards compatibility in the 40gb version that will be the only thing on the market soon...

Speaking of which, I just picked up a 20gb PS3 on gamestop's website for 379.99 because of this very issue. Funny what fear can inspire you to do (plus 380 for a PS3 with full back compat ain't a half bad deal).

HEAD ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO YOUR FOREHEAD! HEAD ON!

KingGorilla

10-24-2007, 10:57 AM

Courtesy of VGChartz, of course.

Wii

Americas: 5.39M
Japan: 3.71M
Other: 3.59M

Xbox 360

Americas: 7.88M
Japan: 0.45M
Other: 3.79M

PS3

Americas: 2.12M
Japan: 1.24M
Other: 1.76M

Wii should have the lead in 'Other' by the end of the year. A lead in 'Americas' is inevitable. And 'Japan' is a cakewalk for Nintendo.

And not to be a troll, but the Wii most likely has as many, if not more consoles in homes as the Xbox 360 in the US.

Durka-Dan

10-24-2007, 10:58 AM

Virtuoso

10-24-2007, 11:15 AM

Durka-Dan

10-24-2007, 11:18 AM

^^^^^
I never owned a PS2, but with the large number of AAA quality games that are available at a relatively low price I wanted to buy some.

But I'm one of those weird people that uses the Xbox 360 bc and have bought about 40 XBox games AFTER I bought my 360.

There's no excuse for not owning a PS2 last generation. Your punishment SHOULD be the extra $100 you have to pay for the 80 gig. NEXT!

Virtuoso

10-24-2007, 11:20 AM

There's no excuse for not owning a PS2 last generation. Your punishment SHOULD be the extra $100 you have to pay for the 80 gig. NEXT!

Apparently you and Sony agree.

Me and my 20GB sub-400USD PS3 are gonna go make love on the couch now.

Shadowstorm

10-24-2007, 11:53 AM

But, but, but... It's POSITIVE PS3 NEWS! Who cares about the source?

You should be caring about the source. Anyone who approves these articles on any credible reliable website for publishing should care about their source. If the source has been widely labeled as inaccurate, one should not post the topic linked to that source just for the sake of having positive news on the PS3 (or vice versa if the situation was switched) / page views. Many, many people on the Internet believe everything they read. If they read this and subconsciously believe it for truth even though it is not, there is and will be a lot of misinformation being spread about.

That being said, VGCharts and other sites like it that spew random numbers like this are complete bullshit. VGCharts is a site banned on many a gaming forum.

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 11:56 AM

You should be caring about the source. Anyone who approves these articles on any credible reliable website for publishing should care about their source. If the source has been widely labeled as inaccurate, one should not post the topic linked to that source just for the sake of having positive news on the PS3 (or vice versa if the situation was switched). Many, many people on the Internet believe everything they read. If they read this and subconsciously believe it for truth even though it is not, there is and will be a lot of misinformation being spread about.
The problem is, VGChartz has never really been labeled as that inaccurate. They usually stay within a 10% margin or error for console sales, and within 20% for game sales. Nobody ever counters effectively when I make this point.

Also, I think when the NPD numbers come out, they throw their own numbers and go with NPD's every time. They aren't 100% accurate, but this is statistics. Unless they are GROSSLY inaccurate, the PS3 outpaced the 360 for two weeks in the UK.

oldjadedgamer

10-24-2007, 11:57 AM

That being said, VGCharts and other sites like it that spew random numbers like this are complete bullshit. VGCharts is a site banned on many a gaming forum.

Remember this gem where they stated Metroid outsold Bioshock?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35518

The problem is, VGChartz has never really been labeled as that inaccurate.

I take it that you don't read NeoGAF do you?

TheFlyingOrc

10-24-2007, 12:01 PM

Remember this gem where they stated Metroid outsold Bioshock?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35518

I take it that you don't read NeoGAF do you?

The statement was misinterpreted - they stated that Metroid outsold Bioshock for that week, which was correct.

Sl1pstream

10-24-2007, 12:15 PM

Central Europe is becoming a socialistic state that hates America. That's why the 360 isn't selling there.

I hope that's a joke. If not, stop doing drugs.

mister_slim

10-24-2007, 02:51 PM

Remember this gem where they stated Metroid outsold Bioshock?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35518

I take it that you don't read NeoGAF do you?

So, where do you get your EU numbers from? Or do you not have a better source than VGChartz?

oldjadedgamer

10-24-2007, 03:00 PM

So, where do you get your EU numbers from? Or do you not have a better source than VGChartz?

That's the key... there is no good source for European numbers. Media Create for Japanese numbers and NPD numbers for the US are the only ones that can be trusted and the ones that the big three first parties use in their press releases when regarding sales. Again, VGChartz is banned from many game forums for a reason.

mister_slim

10-24-2007, 03:07 PM

See, I go with the known margin of error over knowing nothing at all.

Psyks

10-24-2007, 03:53 PM

Central Europe is becoming a socialistic state that hates America. That's why the 360 isn't selling there.

The people who buy and play games don't give two sods about international politics, trust me when I say the popularity of America (or lack of) has almost 0 effect on sales in Europe. Japan yes, Europe no.

As for the boost in sales, its due to the price drop and the release of fifa and PES 08 but remember these are not PS3 exclusives so I doubt the boost will continue.

Until we see more trustworthy figures which are stretched over a longer period of time this isn't news and this isn't getting excited over.