Sims 2 Content "Worse than Hot Coffee"

[Hugenex]

Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html) is on the spot again:

Thompson is on a roll...and he's not done yet. His latest goat is a game that doesn't involve guns, carjacking, or prostitutes: He's going after Electronic Arts' The Sims 2.

In a manifesto sent today to press outlets, Thompson focuses on dismantling the Entertainment Software Ratings Board and exposing what he calls the industry's "latest dirty little secret." The secret's out now, and it involves nude sims. In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."
Editor: Jack Thompson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)), ladies and gentlemen.

[agentgray]

Ok, he's pushing. But if they are going for a standard, this only makes sense....It's definitely a LOT easier to access nudity on Sims than it is on GTA.

Plus, are they really nude? It's like seeing my sister's Barbie.

[MasterEvilAce]

It's so retarded. God forbid kids see uncovered flesh! I'd hate for my kids (if i ever have them) to see somebody's skin! We should all wear robes at all times of day, and we should look down at the ground while walking. We should only be near others when we have to be.

[Paranoia]

Next he'll ban Counter-Strike because someone can mod it.

[Cha-Ka]

I really wish my country (you know...the one I was born it) wasn't notorious for spreading this prudish bullshit around.

[bobbler]

Oh, Jack, is there anything you won't do?

God forbid a kid sees a penis or vagina. The earlier the better, if you ask me.

[Hugenex]

Please don't forget that in Sims 2 a player can have same sex marriages that alone should get it AO. Is nothing sacred in these so called video games!

[bobbler]

I'd be very sad if Gay/Lesbian relationships in a game got it an AO rating -- we might as well just give up and call it a day as a society then.

[benson]

My problem is that they are going after games that only do this stuff via mods. Did he think about going after Led Zeppelin because if you play "Stairway to Heaven" backwards you can hear satanic messages? What's next?

[Taco]

Thompson is of course flat out lying. EA is in the right and can play this game with him. This may be the first time EA being EA does some good.

[bKangy]

For Mantid's sake.

Dear Jack,

You're the not the Karma Police. Nobody can get access to this material unless they make a determined effort to. Go away and let parents be parents. If you want to do anything, encourage parents to be better parents and spend more time with their children. God forbid that The Sims 2 has educational value in teaching children about social nets, irresponsible actions and growing up that any parent might consider showing their children to help them learn.

Love,

Me.

[Darkholmme]

No, I think this makes things very interesting. If they keep on making incredibly popular games take on the AO rating, then big time retailers will probably take off their unofficial moratorium on AO games for profit.... potential backfire?

[XxSATANxX]

Fuck yea!! BRING IT ON!

Anything that kills off that SATANIC SIMS and gets us back to dry humping the fragged I'm all for!!

[RichardTowler]

this guy should be locked up, as he's clearly insane! I'm kinda wondering what caused this mental state, maybe he listened to rock music as a child?

[Hugenex]

No, I think this makes things very interesting. If they keep on making incredibly popular games take on the AO rating, then big time retailers will probably take off their unofficial moratorium on AO games for profit.... potential backfire? Well yes, that is the idea
someone has to be a pioneer.

[Nerv]

...contains, according to video game news sites...

Hah! Is this for real?
Everyone here and elsewhere kept making the Sims 2 comparision to Hot Coffee, so this is probably our fault.

[Phades]

NEWSFLASH!!

Paper and Pencils "Even Worse than The Sims 2!!" says Thompson.

"Paper makers have been releasing their product along with pencil manufacturers knowing full well that should these items fall into the hand of children, they could be used to draw pictures that could be considered pornographic. Why last week I heard a report by a school teacher that she took away a picture drawn by an 8 year old depicting a pair of balls and a penis right next to a woman's breasts!"

Thompson has demanded that all writing materials be recalled and labeled innapropriate for children.

[bKangy]

NEWSFLASH!!

Paper and Pencils "Even Worse than The Sims 2!!" says Thompson.

"Paper makers have been releasing their product along with pencil manufacturers knowing full well that should these items fall into the hand of children, they could be used to draw pictures that could be considered pornographic. Why last week I heard a report by a school teacher that she took away a picture drawn by an 8 year old depicting a pair of balls and a penis right next to a woman's breasts!"

Thompson has demanded that all writing materials be recalled and labeled innapropriate for children.

"Paper boycott goes one step further: burn all books for the safety of your children!"

[Cha-Ka]

Boycotting paper doesn't go far enough! We can still picture nude people in our minds. Join us in an effort to destroy all filthy human thought for the sake of cutural purification!

[Nameback]

Gahhhh! This is driving me crazy, such an inner conflict! On the one hand I have such a bitter hate for EA and the Sims(less though for the latter) and on the other hand I have such a bitter hate for such people. If we support EA and they win, well then they'll be even more powerfull. If we support people like this lawyer then EA would loose but then who knows whats next???

[Intruder]

Okay he is nuts. However for those who wish to *cough* support *cough* him here are mutliple ways to contact him and tell him about the dangers he is saving us from.

From the StopKill.com website

"If you want to know more about the copycatting of violent video games occurring across the country, please contact Jack Thompson at 305-666-4366 or by e-mailing him, by clicking on the below link, at jackpeace@comcast.net.

Finally, you can write Jack Thompson, 1172 South Dixie Hwy., Suite 111, Coral Gables, FL 33146. May God bless you in the meantime. If you have kids, have them start shooting hoops instead of humans."

[falak]

"In a recent press conference, moral crusader Jack Thompson has recommended the destruction of the Washington Monument. He described the famous symbol as "devilishly cock-shaped" and said "it's time to stop it raping the sky." When pressed on the issue, he was quoted as saying "Well, it certainly gives me a boner, and is therefore bad.""

I've already learnt how to murder school children from playing first person shooters, right Jack? God forbid I should learn how sex works. I would like a copy of his "totally objective book of morals", though.

[SymetriX]

Hah! Is this for real?
Everyone here and elsewhere kept making the Sims 2 comparision to Hot Coffee, so this is probably our fault.

To my knowledge *I* was the first person to make this comparison with my comment to the original story:

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3758

I had to clarify this later because people were taking it seriously. However, the fact that a political figure has actually taken this idea seriously only serves my original intent: to draw attention to how absurd the claim was by comparing it to other family-friendly games with similar features.

Should Barbie and Ken dolls be taken off the market because children can remove their clothing? Should knives be banned because someone could stab a person?

Both The Sims and Grand Theft Auto allow acts people might consider to be perverse because they are "open ended" games. And yes folks, games are becomming more like real life because real life is open-ended, isn't it?

If I turn out to be the first one to draw this connection between the two games then I do not accept "fault" but am relieved! Soon people will find similar flaws with any game that is open ended. Today it's The Sims but tomorrow it might be Barbie Horse Adventures 3, and when it gets to that point all we are going to get out of this are more "don't try this at home" Beavis & Butthead style warning messages.

Or maybe another ESRB warning message similar to the online play message:

Warning: Game experience may change due to user modification, user play style, or mankind's free will.

[Mister Pie]

This is getting out of hand. Correct me if I'm wrong but the sims has all the nudity blocked off by default, right? It seems to me that basically this ugy wants to hold the game creator responsible for the mods that have been released.

[Bones4lyf]

i just had to do this.

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9382/jackthompson5dn.jpg

:D

[Intruder]

To my knowledge *I* was the first person to make this comparison with my comment to the original story:

I would pat you on the back but you seem do have done that pretty well all by yourself.

[Heretic Machine]

Just wait for it... Soon The Sims 2 will be pulled from store shelves everywhere. Now we can be like the liberty-less Australians too!

[mister_slim]

To quote Thompson:
"No opponent could possibly be acting upon principle, in the world according to [Jack Thompson]. Only he is the oracle of truth. All others are scum. It is his way."

[Crabby]

No, no, no ,no, no ,no, no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no.

This is it, folks. This jackass has finally crossed the line. I didn't really mind the Rockstar incident, but now this putrid pile of human flesah is going after 100% modded content with a game that encourages user-made content. The stuff in question is a mod as I have seen it myself. The regular game obviously uses blurs.

Someone hit this jackholefuckwad with a bus, please . But hey, at least he's dug his own grave now. No freakin' way EA is going to take that lip from him and let him live. I am officially pissed off now, for anyone keeping score.

"In a recent press conference, moral crusader Jack Thompson has recommended the destruction of the Washington Monument. He described the famous symbol as "devilishly cock-shaped" and said "it's time to stop it raping the sky." When pressed on the issue, he was quoted as saying "Well, it certainly gives me a boner, and is therefore bad.""

Love it, sell it, ship it.

[Kagger]

Is that content really in there if you just remove the blurs? Or is the pubic hair and stuff added with the blur removing mod?

either way...this is stupid. There are naked skins in Jedi Knight I believe...or at least some ones that come pretty close to it....and blood mods...and a pimp skin!

Oh noes!

[Heretic Machine]

Is that content really in there if you just remove the blurs? Or is the pubic hair and stuff added with the blur removing mod?


Behind the blur is nothing, just a blank, flesh-colored skin. At least, with the basic skin tones. You have to add new skin tones in The Sims 2 to have real nudity. What this fucker is talking about here is outright unconstinutional... Though, since that is little more than a wad of toilet paper these days, I doubt that it'll matter to anyone up top. Especially after this GTA fiasco.

[Crabby]

The content in question is absolutely 100% not in the original product. You have to download new art that pastes over it, like a myriad of other wonderful new art mods you can get for The Sims 1, or 2.

He's a flaccid, impotent idiot because he doesn't even target both games, just the one.

[RandomViolence]

I understand the First Amendment lets this guy shoot his idiotic mouth off however he wants, but why is he the only person we're hearing? We have all this knowledge put together from our end, proving he is a mindless wanker. Is there a way to tell the public he's just a whore of a lawyer trying to garner attention for his ill-conceived 'morality'?

[Gil]

Updated quotes from Gamespot article -

Statement from Jack Thompson - "The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse."

and...

Thompson this afternoon updated his earlier statement, saying he is aware certain mods only remove "the blur," but adds that "Electronic Arts has done nothing about this." Thompson's new conclusion: EA is "cooperating, gleefully, with the mod community to turn Sims 2 into a porn offering."

He considers simply removing the blur bad enough to pull it from the market.

[Eric_T_Cheng]

God forbid a kid sees a penis or vagina. The earlier the better, if you ask me.

Lemme guess, you're a big Michael Jackson fan?

[Heretic Machine]

He considers simply removing the blur bad enough to pull it from the market.

And by admitting that the only thing behind the blur are "Ken and Barbie" nude skins, he's saying that he wants to take Ken and Barbie off the shelves too.

[H.M._Murdock]

hehe... labia.

[Kagger]

As someone said...the gaming community needs a spokeperson that gets our end of the story out....a face they can recognize.

[Heretic Machine]

What we need are our own lobiest (mispelled that didn't I?)... Or anti-conservative death squads. My vote is for the death squads.

[RandomViolence]

1 vote for death squads, and maybe lobbiests if that doesn't work.

[Oddmaker]

You really think kids can actully mod the sims 2? :P unless there really smart

[Gil]

And by admitting that the only thing behind the blur are "Ken and Barbie" nude skins, he's saying that he wants to take Ken and Barbie off the shelves too.

He probably does. I wouldn't put it past him. He's crazy.

[mister_slim]

Can someone a) draw 'naughty bits' on some Thompson PR material and b) sue him until we can see his naughty bits?

[jeffool]

What we need are our own lobiest (mispelled that didn't I?)... Or anti-conservative death squads. My vote is for the death squads.

I'm the most liberal mother fucker you'll find, but I think it's important that we remember Hilary Clinton also railed against games recently. No, what we need here is a anti-idiot squad.

Damn they're going to have their hands busy.

[codswallop]

God forbid kids see uncovered flesh!
Maybe Mr. Thompson is one of the dozens of people worldwide who suffer from the debilitating effects of being a Never Nude (http://www.never-nude.com/)?

[bobbler]

Lemme guess, you're a big Michael Jackson fan?

There are ways to see those things without having the experience be a creepy one (a la MJ). The Sims is about as harmless as it gets in terms of giving kids bad ideas (Sims is the type of game where you come into it with ideas and execute them, not get them from it).

Sex isn't a bad things -- I'm not quite sure why the society in the USA thinks it's so taboo. It isn't as if after seeing a tit a kid is going to go fuck everything that walks (same with a kid seeing someone being shot, of course). It is far better than a kid seeing someone blown apart, though -- a part of a person's body can't be compared to an action(s) that is (what should be) as far from natural as it gets. Europe has their "censorship" laws/ratings set right. Don't get me wrong, I don't think either should be censored in any way as long as people know what they are getting but sex isn't and shouldn't be considered bad -- especially not worse than violence.

If it were up to Jack Thompson we'd have no crime, no birth, and no fun. The man is a nutcase. He wants to sterilize humanity.

[Racknahm]

Maybe Mr. Thompson is one of the dozens of people worldwide who suffer from the debilitating effects of being a Never Nude (http://www.never-nude.com/)?
I love Arrested Development and David Cross.

[TheBrainKills]

What we need are our own lobiest (mispelled that didn't I?)... Or anti-conservative death squads. My vote is for the death squads.

I hear John Romero is looking for work. hehe.

[Heretic Machine]

I'm the most liberal mother fucker you'll find, but I think it's important that we remember Hilary Clinton also railed against games recently. No, what we need here is a anti-idiot squad

I didn't say anti-republican squad, I said anti-conservative squad. Big difference, especially these days.

[Subbacultcha]

"Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."


FEAR the NIPPLE!!!!

[H.Bogard]

Thompson is fucking with EA? bad move if you ask me.........take two and the others were a different story.......when you try to fuck with EA they whore your ass...!

[Mason]

This is a good thing for this hypocritical society.

Way too many people vocally support the bible thumpers and security moms, while secretly enjoying a good violent (or, sakes alive, naughty!) video game. No one stands up for the person who enjoys digital violence in all its glory, or the adult who is into adult video games.

So when the culture wars start putting things like the freaking Sims up on the chopping block, it is time for people to decide where they stand. Are you going to stay silent while the social conservative douchebags (Lieberman and Hillary Clinton included) decry your choice of entertainment? Or are you going to support the liberals and libertarians who are trying to carve out some boundaries of personal privacy?

Remember what happened to comic books. The entire industry got crippled for decades by overzealous social conservatives.

Right now the issue isn't the ratings board, they're doing their job. And honestly, games would be protected if they'd just put a little "altering game content may change the game's ESRB rating" warning on the boxes, the way they do for online content.

The problem is the politicians and the retailers. The retailers don't want to carry AO games, because they're worried about the politicians (both local and national) giving them crap for carrying "adult" content in areas that might be near schools/churches. Total hypocrisy, one can find all the T&A they want at the local Blockbuster, but the movie industry has lobbyists and the game industry doesn't. So it'd be nice to think that economic pressure would force retailers to start selling AO games, but I don't think it'd be that simple. If it is a choice between just selling kiddie games or having the city shut down your store, they'll choose the former.

So in time, as online content delivery becomes more popular, retailers can go stuff themselves. But in the short term, those retail stores are responsible for the vast majority of games sold, and no major release can risk the loss of sales of not being in the stores. Add to this the poorly-defined requirements for the AO rating (something about how long things are visible...?) and there's no telling what will be controversial next. Hot Coffee was a problem because they didn't tell the ESRB about it, but the actual content was pretty tame, low-res, and unappealing.

But on the other hand, people stop listening to the family-values crowd once they talk about taking away something that people enjoy. If the bumbling of the morality crusaders convince more gamers to think (and vote) socially liberal in the future, we'll be closer to a better world. A world where a man can go down to the store and buy whatever violent or provocative video game he pleases.

[Edwin]

From the wikipedia link:

He first came into the public eye in 1986 when he represented Ileana Flores in her divorce from Frank Fuster. Fuster had been convicted the previous year of multiple counts of child abuse in the controversial Country Walk Case.

Holy shit that's down the street from me! I see Janet Reno around all the time in her red pickup and on campus, she could take him in a fist fight no problems.

[Mason]

I'm the most liberal mother fucker you'll find, but I think it's important that we remember Hilary Clinton also railed against games recently. No, what we need here is a anti-idiot squad.

Damn they're going to have their hands busy.

Hillary is pretty much a social conservative on "family values" type issues, just not the Levitican law ones. Lieberman is just plain conservative. They're both prominent in the DLC, which is the moderate (i.e. "split the difference with Republicans, no matter how far right they swerve") branch of the party.

Go grab a shovel and meet me in Minnesota. Zombie Wellstone '08.

[bobbler]

Poor Wellstone =/

[Crabby]

Thompson is fucking with EA? bad move if you ask me.........take two and the others were a different story.......when you try to fuck with EA they whore your ass...!


My thoughts exactly, and it almost makes me relieved. Don't be surprised when this guy ends up horizontal in the back of an alley somewhere with a long needle sticking out of his arm containing no fingerprints on the metal, or his person.

[Cpt.Justice]

He does have a point. I mean, if SA was rated AO because of a sex minigame, why not do the same for other, more sexually explicit games like the Sims? If you didn't, that would be like....like admitting you're wrong.

[lun]

I think this is actually a good move for the Game Industry, following the decision to give GTA an AO rating. If you look at the 2005 First Quarter game sales The Sims 2 and it's expansion hold two of the top five positions.

In 2004 The Sims 2 sold more than 1Million copies, in the first ten days.

In 2003 The sims had FOUR volumes in the top 10 best selling list:

2003 Top 10 PC Video Game Titles By Units
Source: The NPD Group / NPD Funworld/ TRSTS

RANK - TITLE - PLATFORM - PUBLISHER
1 - THE SIMS: SUPERSTAR EXPANSION PACK - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 - THE SIMS DELUXE - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 - COMMAND & CONQUER: GENERALS - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
4 - WARCRAFT III: FROZEN THRONE EXPANSION PACK - WIN - VIVENDI
5 - THE SIMS: MAKIN' MAGIC EXPANSION PACK - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 - THE SIMS: UNLEASHED EXPANSION PACK - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
7 - SIM CITY 4 - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS
8 - CALL OF DUTY - WIN - ACTIVISION
9 - MS AGE OF MYTHOLOGY - WIN - MICROSOFT
10 - BATTLEFIELD 1942 - WIN - ELECTRONIC ARTS

"The vast success of The Sims is reflected in the fact that the series (the first game plus the add on games) was consistently the biggest seller in the PC Games market for the years 2000 through 2003, with over 41 million combined sales since its release in February 2000." -igniq.com


With sales figures like that, I imagine that it would be hard for a company to not carry a product that has such a phenominal selling history despite an AO rating. If The Sims acquires an AO rating, this could be what pushes stores to actually carry an AO rated section.



that's my two cents anyhow. . .

[bobbler]

EA should sue Jack thompson for defamation of character and slander.

A company like EA or MS or Sony or Nintendo need to keep Jack Thompson so over his head in legal shit that he doesn't have time to breath, let alone say stupid things to the media.

[Crabby]

I don't think some of you guys really grasp the subtle difference between AO and Mature rated games that result in a worldwide stigma of the branding.

AO = Digital Porn
Mature = The equivalent extreme, but with violence

Do the Sims games really deserve to be branded aside pixel sex date simulators?

[Heretic Machine]

I think the real problem is that too many T games have been labeled as M games. So now, when we actually have some M games (GTA) people see them as needing to be bumped up to AO. But then they are with porn, and porn needs to be bumped up beyond them a step.

[Kelegacy]

The world is becoming a scary place, made scary by a handful of fucktards with an agenda.

Jack Thompson, the Joseph McCarthy of the videogame industry.

[Goronmon]

Well, if they are going to start giving regular games more AO ratings, I think they should start making games that actually deserve the AO rating.

[Intruder]

Why not then go after Singles? That game is everything he is bitching about in the Sims times 10. The entire point of that game is to get it on. Why go after the Sims when Singles is infantely worse. Answer EA is a big name and so is the Sims.

No, this guy isn't in it to save the children, he is in it for money and fame. He want's to make a name for himself. And since this decades social issues include the degradation of social morality due to the influx of video games, then that is where he will hang his hat. He will get more name recognition by attacking a game that nearly everyone loves.

I consider myself a conservative on many things, but I am also liberal on others. I understand where this guy is coming from, but in reality he is such an extremist. Each side of the fence have them. This guy is like the Micheal Moore of video games.

[Spigot]

Wow. What kind of hyper version of Sims 2 is Thompson playing? Sure, I've tried out the anti-pixellation hack but pubic hair and labia?

I agree about Singles being worse. THAT game is much more explicit than Hot Coffee or the nude sims. Of course, it didn't sell that well so nobody knows about it and that makes it worthless as a target for media hungry morons.

If only I could make money vilifying things based on exageration and falsehoods... Sigh.

[Spigot]

I think the real problem is that too many T games have been labeled as M games. So now, when we actually have some M games (GTA) people see them as needing to be bumped up to AO. But then they are with porn, and porn needs to be bumped up beyond them a step.

I agree. I have seen a lot of games that should have been rated T rates as M because they have red blood or something along those lines. I don't really have a problem with GTA having been rated AO (as well as other games which probably deserve the rating) but since the Mature rating contains games that run the gamut from games just this side of T all the way to GTA, it's hard to get a grip on exactly how Mature the game is.

I just wish that retailers who have no problem selling R-rated movies would also sell AO games as the content in many of them is probably more explicit in the movies than the games. If AO titles had venues that would sell them and stores weren't lazy and would actually properly card people when they buy them, developers would be able to make games like GTA and not take flack since they're obviously making games targetted for adults, not kids.

Did that make any sense?

Sigh.

[netcraazzy]

Boycotting paper doesn't go far enough! We can still picture nude people in our minds. Join us in an effort to destroy all filthy human thought for the sake of cutural purification!

Yes, with Jack's help we will cleanse the language and win the war against Eurasia.

[Shifteh]

"Stop seeing partial nudity rendered via polygonated games - instead, go watch a violent movie."

[dead]

i think this Jack Thompson guy really needs to find something auctually important to fight for.

Theres a war going on at the moment...

[Spigot]

i think this Jack Thompson guy really needs to find something auctually important to fight for.

Theres a war going on at the moment...

That would involve actual work and facts, as well as him just not being an opportunistic media whore going after the bugaboo of the day...

[51|RandoM]

He does have a point. I mean, if SA was rated AO because of a sex minigame, why not do the same for other, more sexually explicit games like the Sims? If you didn't, that would be like....like admitting you're wrong.


sims2 isn't explicit. To make it even remotely explicit requires you to add the skins and/or models yourself.

gta was explicit and all the mods/skins were already in the game.

The difference is obvious to anybody with a clue, it would seem.

[Kelegacy]

Games with blood, boobs, fast cars, drugs, bad words, guns, and any mischief whatsoever, even if it is comic, should be outlawed here in the states. It corrupts minds.

Then again, so does the Bible, so do we ban that, too?

[Creepy]

...If you have kids, have them start shooting hoops instead of (fake) humans."

Because God knows our Professional Basketball players are all fine upstanding citizens. :rolleyes:

[Blue]

Then again, so does the Bible, so do we ban that, too?

See, if you take that path then, you must ban too the Torah, Koran, Upanishads, etc. And, even though it's not quite a religion but somewhat religious in nature, Atheism and anything promoting it must also be baned. If we're going to be fair about things.

For my two cents, I say ban anything not related to A Flock of Seagulls.

[Blue]

sims2 isn't explicit. To make it even remotely explicit requires you to add the skins and/or models yourself.

gta was explicit and all the mods/skins were already in the game.

The difference is obvious to anybody with a clue, it would seem.

One could argue that locking a sim in a room without walls and forcing him/her to starve to death and live in their own digital filth is a bit explicit. While I agree that that's a stretch, so is - I would wager - a good deal of what these politicians are doing. If you want to find something wrong within a given game, you can. It just takes a bit of fact-rolling.

[MrMeatshake]

damn, i couldn't find a yashmack sims 2 mod to send to him :-(

why don't we just agree to send all these right-wing loonies off to iraq and then persecute them as enemies of freedom? it's a strange world...

[Shodan2020]

Ugh... The Sims... Ugh... Thompson.

Ugh!

[everar]

This just in:

Two 16 year-old boys were found trying to sneak into the Playboy mansion's largest swimming pool, and were immediately detained by on-site security. 4 out of 5 investigators point to a recent computer game, "The Sims 2," as the match that started this evil flame.

For months, both kids have been training in The Sims night and day, to get on what one of the boys called "the fast track to WooWoo" using several of the following methods to take women captive:

-Abusive carpentry
-Taking the ladders out of pools
-Charming 'baby talk'
-Tickles
-Comparing interests, bordering on the repetitive and cliche
-Flaunting their vast wealth in Simoleans
-Approaching random women at the mall and coercing them to go downtown

Both kids are now in custody, and the legal outcome seems obvious.