View Full Version : Microsoft 4Q profits up 37%
Zanzibar
07-21-2005, 03:28 PM
This article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050721/ap_on_hi_te/earns_microsoft;_ylt=AoqjnnsOEgVPHDCBGwl_KAas0NUE; _ylu=X3oDMTA3bGI2aDNqBHNlYwM3NDk-) from the AP is reporting Bill Gates' Corporate Behemoth has done well.
Sony bigwig Ken Kutaragi responds by saying that Sony profits are aging themselves like fine wine, thus aren't visible from quarter to quarter.
Orphiuchus
07-21-2005, 03:43 PM
Thats only when you save them on the harddrive of a ps3, also it makes them high definition.
Thenetcase
07-21-2005, 03:44 PM
Snicker.
Sony's logic is always really... loose cannonish.
MasterEvilAce
07-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Let's not forget Nintendo :-P
That whole aging like fine wine joke.... is um... ...getting old.
bapenguin
07-21-2005, 04:48 PM
That whole aging like fine wine joke.... is um... ...getting old.
Maybe we should age the fine wine joke like fine wine. ;)
mkelehan
07-21-2005, 04:58 PM
That whole aging like fine wine joke.... is um... ...getting old.
Maybe, but the whole Kutaragi is a nut joke certainly isn't. He also said that Sony's stock is performing exactly as designed, and shareholders should stop criticizing their perfect design and deal with it.
Reanimated
07-21-2005, 05:01 PM
This article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050721/ap_on_hi_te/earns_microsoft;_ylt=AoqjnnsOEgVPHDCBGwl_KAas0NUE; _ylu=X3oDMTA3bGI2aDNqBHNlYwM3NDk-) from the AP is reporting Bill Gates' Corporate Behemoth has done well.
Sony bigwig Ken Kutaragi responds by saying that Sony profits are aging themselves like fine wine, thus aren't visible from quarter to quarter.
lol ahhahahahaha... nice. That's a headline worthy of Fark.
superherotaco
07-21-2005, 05:01 PM
Sony bigwig Ken Kutaragi responds by saying that Sony profits are aging themselves like fine wine, thus aren't visible from quarter to quarter.
I'm not sure if this is a Penny Arcade joke or if he'd actually say something like this.
yeah everyone here is right, sony doesnt know what theyre doing with their 200 billion dollar company.................. I find it hard to believe that any of you own actual stock that hasnt been given to you by your employer like best buy :-p. I dont preach hate I just criticize ignorance.
PS: dont even bother correcting my spelling or grammar as a witty remark, Im glad you can use *** word's spell check now go do something useful with that knowledge.
Genital Eclipse
07-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Fonz sucks
Dirty Harry
07-21-2005, 05:58 PM
Fonz sucks
Teh fonz is the man, he jumped over a tank of sharks on his motorcycle, have you jumped over a tank a sharks?, thats what i thought now stfu <3.
mister_slim
07-21-2005, 06:55 PM
Maybe, but the whole Kutaragi is a nut joke certainly isn't. He also said that Sony's stock is performing exactly as designed, and shareholders should stop criticizing their perfect design and deal with it.
Did he actually say that or are you paraphrasing erratically?
I have a hunch he is mister_slim :)
Furious Wang
07-21-2005, 07:35 PM
yeah everyone here is right, sony doesnt know what theyre doing with their 200 billion dollar company.................. I find it hard to believe that any of you own actual stock that hasnt been given to you by your employer like best buy :-p. I dont preach hate I just criticize ignorance.
PS: dont even bother correcting my spelling or grammar as a witty remark, Im glad you can use *** word's spell check now go do something useful with that knowledge.
Errr. You are kind of off with the 200 bill figure. By just a bit. I criticize ignorance too.
TrackZero
07-21-2005, 07:48 PM
Did he actually say that or are you paraphrasing erratically?
slim, he was being sarcastic....remember the "perfect design" of the PSP? he was using that in the... you get it.
Errr. You are kind of off with the 200 bill figure. By just a bit. I criticize ignorance too.
Youve obviously have not researched how much this company is actually worth, Sony is not just a electronics manufacturer, they own Columbia Tri-Star. Controlling shares of MGM,CBS,Universal and BMG music. They also Revenue about 72 billion dollars a year. :)
Atorak
07-21-2005, 11:02 PM
72 Billion a year huh? Phew! That's almost 12% of what Vivid Video makes on anal porn a year!
*bows to Sony* Thanks to your fine widescreen television, I can enjoy the porn industry that much more.
Twigz'N'Berries
07-21-2005, 11:09 PM
Um, that is great that MS fourth quarter profits were good.
Now, how are they doing THIS YEAR?
I love MS, but let's see some current info. Plus, before anyone spews out how much a company is worth, please post links to back up your facts. Please no more fanboy speculations that Sony is worth 200 billion. (if this is not fanboy specualtion, you have my apologies)
Manzy
07-21-2005, 11:19 PM
Plus, before anyone spews out how much a company is worth, please post links to back up your facts, not fanboy speculations that Sony is worth 200 billion.
Amen! Well said!
Dirty Harry
07-22-2005, 12:03 AM
Um, that is great that MS fourth quarter profits were good.
Now, how are they doing THIS YEAR?
I love MS, but let's see some current info. Plus, before anyone spews out how much a company is worth, please post links to back up your facts. Please no more fanboy speculations that Sony is worth 200 billion. (if this is not fanboy specualtion, you have my apologies)
one this is for their yearly gross,
Annual Sales / Sony Corporation Consolidated
$67 billion (Fiscal Year ended March 31, 2005)
Sales in the United States: $18.4 billion
I'm skimming over pdf files from the quarterly fiscal reports to get your information but sony is worth almost 200 billion dollars in solid money.
Twigz'N'Berries
07-22-2005, 12:16 AM
one this is for their yearly gross,
Annual Sales / Sony Corporation Consolidated
$67 billion (Fiscal Year ended March 31, 2005)
Sales in the United States: $18.4 billion
I'm skimming over pdf files from the quarterly fiscal reports to get your information but sony is worth almost 200 billion dollars in solid money.
Not to be rude, but I would like to see LINKS back to the info. You telling me this is like MichaelJackson handing a kid purple liquid inside of a wine glass and saying "Drink this Jesus Juice and lay down on my bed."
I can't prove you are wrong, but dammit if I trust you!!
(In all honesty, I'm pretty sure they are worth that much if not more. They have their hands in everything and have been behind some of the biggest blockbusters in recent years. It even amazes me that people still think Beta was a huge loss for Sony...it made them quite a bit of money in the film industry)
Um, that is great that MS fourth quarter profits were good.
Now, how are they doing THIS YEAR?According to the article this is the 4th quarter of their fiscal year which just ended on June 30th. "This year" just started 21 days ago.
Either way, I want to know how well the Gaming division is doing: the company as a whole profiting doesn't mean anything to me. They talk about Windows and Office, but not the Xbox.
Twigz'N'Berries
07-22-2005, 12:30 AM
Wow, now i feel like a dope.
In response to your question Opty, here is a link for the info on the xbox.
http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/tech/ronnaabramson/10233994_5.html
Dirty Harry
07-22-2005, 01:00 AM
Not to be rude, but I would like to see LINKS back to the info. You telling me this is like MichaelJackson handing a kid purple liquid inside of a wine glass and saying "Drink this Jesus Juice and lay down on my bed."
I can't prove you are wrong, but dammit if I trust you!!
(In all honesty, I'm pretty sure they are worth that much if not more. They have their hands in everything and have been behind some of the biggest blockbusters in recent years. It even amazes me that people still think Beta was a huge loss for Sony...it made them quite a bit of money in the film industry)
i grabbed them directly from the sony.com site if you would bother to look into the buisness and investments area. They have all the reports on spending and what their net and loss of everything laid out (for example, they expect the new Sony BGM music joint venture to decline in profit just for exampleof course).
few links from the cache,
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/highlight/index.html
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/04q4_sony.pdf
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/faq/index.html
I hope this is more than enough information.
Not to be rude, but I would like to see LINKS back to the info. You telling me this is like MichaelJackson handing a kid purple liquid inside of a wine glass and saying "Drink this Jesus Juice and lay down on my bed."
I can't prove you are wrong, but dammit if I trust you!!
(In all honesty, I'm pretty sure they are worth that much if not more. They have their hands in everything and have been behind some of the biggest blockbusters in recent years. It even amazes me that people still think Beta was a huge loss for Sony...it made them quite a bit of money in the film industry)
Theres a difference between being a fan boy and being an investor, its not speculation or opinion, its fact if you actually have knowledge of the industry. and BTW dirty harry did you a favor and posted those links
Bushido
07-22-2005, 03:43 AM
72 Billion a year huh? Phew! That's almost 12% of what Vivid Video makes on anal porn a year!
hahaha anal porn
Twigz'N'Berries
07-22-2005, 12:52 PM
Theres a difference between being a fan boy and being an investor, its not speculation or opinion, its fact if you actually have knowledge of the industry. and BTW dirty harry did you a favor and posted those links
That is true, there is a difference between being a fanboy and an investor. Glad you know this.
I asked him to provide links to back up his claim. I don't think that is unreasonable if you are trying to convince someone of something.
Kelegacy
07-23-2005, 07:46 AM
That whole aging like fine wine joke.... is um... ...getting old.
Seriously. It was old weeks/months ago. Xbox people love to use it though. Remember hearing that factual phrase, "People make fun of others to compensate for their own low self-esteem?" In other words, they do it to make themselves feel better. MS fans want the Xbox to win this round, but they fear being slipped the donkey rod again. Hell, I think Sony fans fear MS sneaking up behind and tossing their salad, too.
That's why we make fun of Allard looking like a gay pirate, Kutaragi being a crazy man, Sony being a den of lies and thievery, and MS being a corporate whore by buying/eating up development houses in an attempt to beat Sony. It's all bullshit, inborn fear of the "bad guy" winning. Hopefully Nintendo will stalk into the fray and knock both their heads together.
Twigz'N'Berries
07-23-2005, 02:54 PM
Nintendo doesn't have a bad strategy...except with the lack of HD support. They are trying to live on their strength (library of old games) and be the least expensive of the lot. The 'Cube actually made them money on the hardware if I am to believe reports and it was actually pretty sweet graphically. I think that a lot of gamers (western gamers) have publicly dismissed Nintendo will keep one eye open for the Revolution when it comes out. Nintendo has made some unfortunate choices which place it third in the videogame market now, but I think they are still a force in gaming.
(In the US, analog broadcasting (normal broadcasting) will lose its licensing by 2008. Which means that normal tvs will no longer function and everyone will have to upgrade to HD. Cable stations will no longer be required to braodcast any stations in analog either. The government will then sell off the analog spectrum for a fat wad of cash...and some will remain for emergency channels. So, about 2 1/2 years into the lifecycle of Revolution, everyone will have an HD set, but Rev won't take advantage of that. Unfortunately, this is the type of short sighted thinking that has been prevalent with the Big N latetly.)
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