Hellgate London Goes Gold, Demo Friday

[eth3rton]

"This is a not a test of the emergency broadcasting system - Hellgate: London has officially gone gold! Plus, we've got a single-player demo coming this Friday!

Directly from the Official Hellgate London site : http://www.hellgatelondon.com/underground/hgl-gone-gold-demo-coming

Its about time. Anyone else looking forward to this one..?

Editor's Note - Full Press release below the fold

[Dr.Finger]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


HELLGATE™: LONDON GOES GOLD, DEMO COMING THIS WEEK

The creators of Diablo are cracking open the Hellgate before Halloween


San Francisco, CA (October 16, 2007) – Demons of London beware! Your reign of terror is officially coming to an end! Electronic Arts, Namco Bandai Games, and Flagship Studios are excited to announce that Hellgate™: London has gone to gold master and will be available exclusively for the PC on October 31st in North America.


"This has been an amazing journey for us and we couldn't be more proud of what we've accomplished," said Flagship Studios CEO, Bill Roper. "We're anxious to get Hellgate: London into gamers' hands and we can't wait to play right along with them."


And for gamers who can't wait until Halloween to get their Demon-slaying on, Flagship Studios is releasing a singleplayer demo this Friday, October 19th.


The singleplayer demo represents just a small taste of the Hellgate: London experience. Gamers can choose from two of the game's six character classes: the Blademaster, a master of swordplay and action-packed melee combat, or the Marksman, a cool, calculating, long-range specialist.


In the demo, these heroes are able to battle through a small handful of storyline and side quests as they adventure through the streets and tunnels around London's Holborn Station.


Hellgate: London combines the depth of role-playing games and the action of first-person shooter titles, while offering infinite playability with dynamically generated levels, items, enemies, and events. Whether online or off, a player creates a heroic character, completes quests, and battles through innumerable hordes of demons to advance through experience levels and branching skill paths. A robust, flexible skill and spell system, highly customizable appearances, and a massive variety of randomly generated equipment allow players to create their own unique hero.


Hellgate Halloween is fast approaching! Stay tuned for more news at: www.hellgatelondon.com. "

[Mortis]

Been playing for a while now...NDA needs to go. I can't wait until Halloween.

[walkstheplanes]

Are the people in beta out of the NDA yet?

edit: Mortis = too quick.

[normyk]

Hrm.... like I don't have enough games already begging for attention.
I'll play the demo. It's really gonna have to wow me to make me want to pay a subscription, though.

[gawaintheblind]

In beta.

Pass.

Next?

[drakkarim]

looking forward to the demo. i'm only intersted in the singleplayer part though. the few videos/etc that i've seen haven't done much for me, but sometime a lot of the 'fun' gets lost in a video.

[UnderHero5]

This game had a lot of promise when I saw the first CG trailer. It was a neat concept.

The more I saw of the game (videos and stuff) the less excited I grew.

As of right now, it kind of looks like crap to me. I do look forward to trying the demo, and finding out how it actually is. I don't expect much, though. It will probably get good reviews, regardless though. Seems that some PC games, as of late, have been getting better reviews than they deserve (Quake Wars, comes to mind. I thought the demo was freaking horrible, yet it got 9s).

[Telefrog]

Curious to see what people say once the demo hits and the NDA is lifted.

[GrinR]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5109/neinyk2.gif

[Kem0sabe]

The beta was very underwhelming...

If i had to describe Hellgate in one word, it would be repetition, you just do the same thing over and over again with little to no deep content worth mentioning. The only thing that could have saved this thing was the multiplayer and the loot, but they completely missed the mark on those as well. *shrug*

[mkelehan]

I'd be all over this if it were on the 360.

[eth3rton]

wow. your comments are making me a little depressed here... :(

edit : see the signature...? lol

[Returner]

I have it pre-ordered.

[fatefodder]

I don't know, given how crowded this holiday season is with quality titles, it will take a lot for me to purchase this one.

[Gerbs]

I'd be all over this if it were on the 360.

Seconded.1234567890

[Drayven]

I just cancelled my pre-order last night.

[Ancalagon]

Crap. So beta players saying not so good? here I was thinking this one was a keeper.

will wait for reviews too, no point in dismissing it right away.

[thenumber5]

i haven't been able play in a week, but the last time I logged on it was buggy/laggy mess

but i am still planing to get it for the single player

[workerbee]

I've been in the beta, and I'm still glad I preordered it. It has not been good on my workplace productivity.

[GrinR]

I've been in the beta, and I'm still glad I preordered it. It has not been good on my workplace productivity.

Tell me why you like it. I played the beta for about 5 hours before I just couldn't take it anymore. So bad.

[Kamalot]

I found the magazine advertisements completely tasteless and vulgar.

[Nura]

I'd be all over this if it were on the 360.

Me too, but it seems they're going pc only with this one.

I found the magazine advertisements completely tasteless and vulgar.

.. link? >_>

[oldschooldimo]

meh i played the beta, i think ill pass on this one. it had promise but meh.

[Exodus]

Well, I'm gonna get it. me and the girl like it ;p
it's fast, it's actiony, it's diablo 3, post apoc setting 3rd/1rst person 3d

I can't say more due to NDA. But I will say, I can understand why people are dropping their pre-orders.

[Siraris]

Being in the beta myself, I'm going to have to say pass as well, at least until I know more about the game. It lacks depth, to me.

[Kamalot]

.. link? >_>

Sorry. I think they were in Game Informer, a magazine that grows more tasteless with every issue.

[Ancalagon]

Sigh, does nobody make good games anymore?

I had my hopes up for this one. Is there any hope they can use the remaining time to fix all of the issues?

[Wyrm]

In regard to all the people saying it's a no go: Did you like Diablo 2? My reason for asking this, is if you don't enjoy the type of game that Hellgate is, you probably wouldn't find it to be very fun. If, however, you enjoy games like Diablo 2, and you still did not like Hellgate, I would find that deeply perturbing.

Essentially, I need to know if this will satiate my Diablo fix.

[Tjuba]

The game sucks.

Game is not like cg trailers at all. No atmosphere, all levels look the same even if its randomized and it has the worst silly story ever. The skills are bland and boring. Character art and monster art is nicely done though, monster design especially. That and the item system is the best parts of the game.

The forum gets often wiped because there is so much complains. Users who voice their complains to often gets banned from forums even if its written constructive and not flame.

Many bugs and unstable network.

This is of course beta impressions. Try the demo and find out yourself. Many people can still enjoy it, it seems.

Might be just me who have high standards... after playing Diablo 2 8 years ago one expect improvement after all these years, but all I got was less or equal quality. They ride the "we are the makers of Diablo 2" too much for my liking and do very little to show it.

[sprankton]

I have been in the beta as well and its a good game in a lot of ways, but am I the only one thinks that the skills are really kind of pointless. I know he skill tree with the summoner is confusing with how they lay out skills and some of the skills they provide, but the Marksmen is just pointless.

Maybe it is me.

[sprankton]

The game sucks.

Game is not like cg trailers at all. No atmosphere, all levels look the same even if its randomized and it has the worst silly story ever with npcs. The skills are bland and boring. Character art and monster art is nicely done though, monster design especially. That and the item system is the best parts of the game.



I think the atmosphere is great. It puts you in a mode that you are fighting Hell on earth. The urban settings are awesome, but I will say that the Hellrifts are all the same. I was sad about that one fact, that when I go into hell it is the same platform over and over again.

[Tjuba]

Nope its not you. Pointless and useless skills which offer no re-playability of a class is the mayor complaint of the game on beta forums.

London seem more like a grey ghost town or a war zone with some random daemons than that an invasion from hell have occurred.. Areas are small and look all the same, its looks good but there is no variation so after the same street after the 10th time its get very boring. They have toned down the npc's a bit so they are more serious, have I heard so I wont comment about that. I think the only thing that's gives the game atmosphere is the music which is very well done.

[GrinR]

I think the atmosphere is great. It puts you in a mode that you are fighting Hell on earth. The urban settings are awesome, but I will say that the Hellrifts are all the same. I was sad about that one fact, that when I go into hell it is the same platform over and over again.

Playing the game sure does make me feel like I'm in hell on Earth; you got that part right.

[Crowe]

So many mixed opinions. I will try out the demo to see what I think , I'm not going to even bother taking the Vdieo's into account.

[Winterwolves]

There are lots of people in the beta that would love to give their impressions. But won't because they would be breaking the NDA. Or else the impressions wouldn't be so one sided I know....

Negative people love to spoil shit for others.

My suggestion, try the demo yourself, and don't listen to anyone's opinion but your own.

[GrinR]

My suggestion, try the demo yourself, and don't listen to anyone's opinion but your own.

... that way you'll save your money.

[sprankton]

Nope its not you. Pointless and useless skills which offer no re-playability of a class is the mayor complaint of the game on beta forums.

London seem more like a grey ghost town or a war zone with some random daemons than that an invasion from hell have occurred.. Areas are small and look all the same, its looks good but there is no variation so after the same street after the 10th time its get very boring. They have toned down the npc's a bit so they are more serious, have I heard so I wont comment about that. I think the only thing that's gives the game atmosphere is the music which is very well done.

I would agree that it would be nice to visit some parts of London that are landmarks, but we are limited to the lower/mid ranged levels. From what i have played I still dont expect to play anything really different.

ON to the skills, it seems like they tried to make it that your beginning skills arent throw aways like every other MMO/RPG ever made, but they are either uesless skills or pointless. Like I said with the summoner, there are just things I can summon and things that I can't summon at the same time and it is baffling to me why.

[Draknodred]

Can't wait.

Essentially, I need to know if this will satiate my Diablo fix.

Yes.

[Winterwolves]

The game sucks.
The forum gets often wiped because there is so much complains. Users who voice their complains to often gets banned from forums even if its written constructive and not flame.


You are totally full of shit. Pushing a negative agenda because you had a bad time in beta.

Not that I expect anyone to wait to reserve judgment until the final product is shipped. That would just be ludicrous ...

To say that they are relying on the D2 name to sell copies is also bullshit. Try the demo, even if you played beta. Then comment on that, since it won't be breaking the law.

[GrinR]

In regard to all the people saying it's a no go: Did you like Diablo 2? My reason for asking this, is if you don't enjoy the type of game that Hellgate is, you probably wouldn't find it to be very fun. If, however, you enjoy games like Diablo 2, and you still did not like Hellgate, I would find that deeply perturbing.

Essentially, I need to know if this will satiate my Diablo fix.

I loved the Diablo franchise and played the hell out of it online. Without going into detail, Hellgate and Diablo have nothing in common aside from demons and a "phat lewtz" system. And the loot is laughably pitiful, so so much for that.

[ÜberJumper]

Can not wait for this! So stoked!

Kamalot, were the ads you were refering to the "the demons ripped apart my girlfriend, blah blah, I'm going to london to get revenge!" ones? If so, I loved them.

[Sloth]

based on the popularity of wow and diablo, i think most people will like this game. Now Hellgate obviously doesn't have the Blizzard polish, and like most games its being rushed out the door, however the base gameplay is what has addicted legions of players already.

[Winterwolves]

... that way you'll save your money.

Flame much?

Just because you broke the NDA & are spewing your negative opinion, doesn't mean shit to me. I haven't passed final judgment on the game, nor am I a fanboi. I am someone who has been waiting on the game for over 3 years.

I could care less how well it sells, but acting like your opinion is the final fucking word is so conceited and off base, so do yourself a favor & STFU!

[mkelehan]

New rule: nobody gets to judge a game based on its beta. Those who do so totally miss the concept of beta software.

Everybody gets to judge a game based on its demo. If a company puts out a bad demo, or no demo at all, that's their own damn fault.

[Lima Beans]

New rule: nobody gets to judge a game based on its beta. Those who do so totally miss the concept of beta software.
.

I know a lot of people who feel this way, but even speaking as a game developer myself and one who has played a lot of betas, its very very rare for a game that sucks in beta to be significantly better at release, except in terms of fixing bugs.

I know some people disagree with me, but from my anecdotal experiences this has always been true for me. In fact, I find betas a better judge of the game than Demos, since you often get to see more of the game and more of the features.


I have not played the Hellgate beta.

[workerbee]

I like it mainly because its fun to play. The customizable loot is loads of fun, and I usually play the hunter class since I enjoy more of the FPS "blow lots of stuff up from a distance" style of play.

The graphics aren't cutting edge, but they don't look bad either. Who in their right mind would expect any game to look like a pre-rendered cinematic, though? Bad comparison - crazy talk, I say. I'll also admit that parts of the beta testing have been quite painful, but isn't that the point of the beta process? The software is not done yet, and there are going to be bugs! (I say this as a professional software tester - quit yer f'n whining and wait for retail if you don't want to deal with the development issues)

Also, I have seen lots of comments regarding the repetiveness of the game. To that, I say: if you had to play a small part of the game over and over again, yes - it can get repetative. In this area, I have faith in Flagship that (like Diablo), the environment/beasties will evolve as you progress through the game. In this, it is only because of the pedigree of those who are producing the game. I wouldn't put that same faith in a group of unknowns.

Huh - I guess I sound like a bit of a Hellgate apologist... I've been having a great time playing for the last few weeks, and I'm eagerly waiting for the rest of the game to arrive on my doorstep, so take that as you will, and give the demo a try when its out.

[eth3rton]

sorry but what the hell is a/the NDA...?

[OrangePulp]

NDA is non-disclosure agreement. Basically, something you have to agree to in order to participate in the beta, which (supposedly) prevents you from talking about what's in the game.

I'm not in the beta, but my brother is, which basically means that I am as well. And let me say this: Diablo 3 this game is not. There's just something lacking about Hellgate, as compared to the diablo games. I can't put my finger on it, but to me, there's some magic part of the formula that didn't carry over.

My problem with telling people, "play the demo and see if you like it" is that the game really is pretty great... for the first hour or three. After that, it just gets repetitive. Realize this is coming from someone who can play diablo/diablo 2 for hours on end, they themselves being fairly repetitive.

[drakkarim]

They ride the "we are the makers of Diablo 2" too much for my liking and do very little to show it.

i've had that sense too, riding the D2 train, which doesn't sit well with me since i'm one of the few that thought d2 sucked horseshit compared to the original.

so perhaps to me they'll live up to their d2 claims...judging by the atmosphere i'm sensing about the game.

still, i'll check out the demo at least.

[vash]

The beta was very underwhelming...

If i had to describe Hellgate in one word, it would be repetition, you just do the same thing over and over again with little to no deep content worth mentioning. The only thing that could have saved this thing was the multiplayer and the loot, but they completely missed the mark on those as well. *shrug*

im not in the beta but i know some who are and were big diablo fans, they say the same thing ;)

[GrinR]

Flame much?

Just because you broke the NDA & are spewing your negative opinion, doesn't mean shit to me. I haven't passed final judgment on the game, nor am I a fanboi. I am someone who has been waiting on the game for over 3 years.

I could care less how well it sells, but acting like your opinion is the final fucking word is so conceited and off base, so do yourself a favor & STFU!

Tell me how you really feel.

[Kamalot]

Can not wait for this! So stoked!

Kamalot, were the ads you were refering to the "the demons ripped apart my girlfriend, blah blah, I'm going to london to get revenge!" ones? If so, I loved them.

Yeah, those were they. They said stuff like, 'They ripped my girlfriend in half and drank her blood. They peeled off my dogs skin. I'm going to London.'

I'm glad you liked them, but I can't think of any other industry that advertises using such vile material. No wonder video games get such a bad name. I mean, you can even pick up any other type of magazine and not be presented with such tasteless marketing with the possible exception of horror-film magazines (which also have quite a reputation).

Personally, when an advertisement talks about such foul things happening, I want nothing to do with the product. To me, it is a total turn-off. I don't play games to see stuff like that happening. Apparently others feel otherwise, and that's what makes our world an amazing place.

[Zurik]

I'm in the beta and all I can say is that I enjoy it. Course I play a marksman, which seems to be twice as fun as the other classes. I'd have been perfectly happy if this game was just lan-able, since most of the issues seem to be around the damned lobbies.

[gawaintheblind]

I have been in the beta as well and its a good game in a lot of ways, but am I the only one thinks that the skills are really kind of pointless. I know he skill tree with the summoner is confusing with how they lay out skills and some of the skills they provide, but the Marksmen is just pointless.

Maybe it is me.

The skills are TERRIBLE. At least for the marksman I made. I ended up having all these skill points remaining because I was waiting for something GOOD to show up.... and it never did. Once you get the snipe skill you basically start looking for a way to trade your skill points in for cool points or something.

For the record, I loved diablo 2 and this is no diablo 2. In fact, other than the fact that some of the same people are working on this, I can't understand how its even being compared. Setting aside, the only thing similar is the "town portal" crap.

The one redeeming feature of this (and its low on the list) is the immensely slot-able items. My sniper rifle has like 12 slots or something for add ons. Its crazy.


Edit: Winterwolves's tears will taste like broken dreams and ruined hope.

[GrinR]

For what it's worth, I think the gameplay is very similar to Tabula Rasa, only TaRa works better - and that ain't sayin' much.

[Vulture]

For what it's worth, I think the gameplay is very similar to Tabula Rasa, only TaRa works better - and that ain't sayin' much.

Well if that ain't the Kiss of Death.


Beta both of them , still buying Hellgate, canceled TR.
But not buying the premium life member thing for Hellgate either.

A real good game and will I buy two copies, to corrupt my friends.

[gawaintheblind]

I think so too. Its a mix of Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes.

[Codicier]

Trying the demo before I make up my mind.

[tenchiker]

I think so too. Its a mix of Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes.

Holy crap, that sounds like a London sized pile of dookie. After watching a few long gameplay videos I gave up on this game after being excited about it for a long time. However I will still give it a chance and try the demo.

[Maynard]

Demo Thursday!

And for gamers who can't wait until Halloween to get their Demon-slaying on, Flagship Studios is releasing a singleplayer demo this Thursday, October 18th.

[lockwoodx]

The game sucks.

The forum gets often wiped because there is so much complains. Users who voice their complains to often gets banned from forums even if its written constructive and not flame.

Dead on accurate. I was one of them who got banned for bringing up threads like "why the hell is there so much eletricity and lighting durring "hell on earth?"" ; "This game needs more gore" ; and "If your going to do in game advertising atleast use future ads and make them appear vandalized and worn so they fit in". FSS is very sensative to critisism as they don't have time to bother with negative PR while the EA overlords are cracking whips.



In regard to all the people saying it's a no go: Did you like Diablo 2? My reason for asking this, is if you don't enjoy the type of game that Hellgate is, you probably wouldn't find it to be very fun. If, however, you enjoy games like Diablo 2, and you still did not like Hellgate, I would find that deeply perturbing.

Essentially, I need to know if this will satiate my Diablo fix.

It is no where near diablo 2 and yet it's been hyped that way all along. The only reason it's being called a MMO at all is because they want an excuse to charge for a subscription. EA has it's own EULA tagged on for the in game advertising, and it has the debth of a tablespoon.


The only thing I'm looking forward to them fixing the insane ammount of bugs, DX10 incompatibility, and non stop crashin. Then mabye I'll try the free version.

<edit> also the MMO part is a joke. I can't wait for Yatzee to get his hands on this one. The game's structure is 99% the same as guild wars. Central lag fest stations...everything else instanced. There is no MMO at all and nobody groups anyways. HGL is basically a RPGFPS with optional Co-Op tacked on.

[Phanto]

Hrm.... like I don't have enough games already begging for attention.
I'll play the demo. It's really gonna have to wow me to make me want to pay a subscription, though.

The subscription system in this game is a plus like more storage for items, High level more animated armors, weapons, adtional contents such as more quest e.c.t, thats about it.

About time we get to play the game, lets see if this game is worth buying it ;).

[TrackZero]

I'll say this, for a game that was completely off my radar/taste list. They've got my attention, and I'm looking forward to seeing if the demo delivers.

[Katslover]

The game sucks.

Game is not like cg trailers at all. No atmosphere, all levels look the same even if its randomized and it has the worst silly story ever. The skills are bland and boring. Character art and monster art is nicely done though, monster design especially. That and the item system is the best parts of the game.

The forum gets often wiped because there is so much complains. Users who voice their complains to often gets banned from forums even if its written constructive and not flame.

Many bugs and unstable network.

This is of course beta impressions. Try the demo and find out yourself. Many people can still enjoy it, it seems.

Might be just me who have high standards... after playing Diablo 2 8 years ago one expect improvement after all these years, but all I got was less or equal quality. They ride the "we are the makers of Diablo 2" too much for my liking and do very little to show it.

I'm not going to say much about what he said, as I don't want to break the agreement, but I will say that he is wrong as far as the forum stuff goes.

I will also say that this game is amazing. I have made two characters, a Marksman and an Evoker, and both are different enough yet highly enjoyable to play as. My girlfriend has made two characters as well, a Engineer and a Summoner, and she's having a hard time deciding which she will play when the full product comes out. Simply put, this is the best dungeon crawler I have played since I first got Diablo for the Playstation.

[TrackZero]

Simply put, this is the best dungeon crawler I have played since I first got Diablo for the Playstation.

You played Diablo on a console? Ewwwww.

[Katslover]

You played Diablo on a console? Ewwwww.

And I loved every second of it. Does your elitism change that? I'm pretty sure it doesn't. I never had a gaming rig, despite having a PC since 1993. I will play a great game on any system I can get it on.

Note: Nothing against you whatsoever, TrackZero, I just responded to this to point out that the Playstation version is fantastic, and that gaming doesn't start and end on the PC.

[Zurik]

For what it's worth, I think the gameplay is very similar to Tabula Rasa, only TaRa works better - and that ain't sayin' much.

Are you just in here saying that because of how much everyone has been bashing Tabula Rasa?

[Tjuba]

Minaret was banned... no reason stated... talking about it is forbidden.

Enough said.

[Steele Johnson]

Diablo style gameplay was fun in the 90's, but now? Nah. I'm going to pass on this one. I need more depth than that for it to be fun for me.

[Grifter]

They finally let me in the beta...one frickin day before the demo. Oh well I guess it's better than nothing. Is the Beta multi-player only?

[GrinR]

Are you just in here saying that because of how much everyone has been bashing Tabula Rasa?

There's a lot to bash for both titles. I happen to prefer TaRa, but it's really comparing a Big Mac to a Whopper - neither one is a steak.

I really wanted Hellgate to be good, and I forced myself through hours of the terrible everything (graphics, gameplay, sound effects, scripting, dialog, bugs - everything!) to find something to cling to. Ultimately, it pushed me away and I guarantee at launch when the NDA is lifted you're going to see the same thing said by most everyone else. It's a half-baked game in every way.

TaRa I heard nothing but terrible things about and when I tried it I was surprised to find it was an ok game. Not fantastic, but ok. Certainly not the TOTAL SHIT that I kept being told.

Hey - I urge everyone to try Hellgate for themselves. Please do. Maybe you'll like it!

I don't think you will, though.

[Exodus]

Diablo style gameplay was fun in the 90's, but now? Nah. I'm going to pass on this one. I need more depth than that for it to be fun for me.

*shrugs* I like the fact that for the first time in a multiplayer rpg setting with first person perspective.. it's actually fun! It's as frantic/twitchy as diablo but all the looks of a decent fps/3rd person perspective game

Games like wow where you sit there shooting at a mob and just look at numbers isn't nearly as fun but eh, I'll wait til you guys can play it yourself.

[MrE]

Been playing the Beta for a few weeks as well. As far as the NDA, whatever. From what we've been told, we are playing the "Server Stress" edition and many features are missing from the final product. While there have been a great number of bugs with the game, the point of a beta is just that: finding the bugs. I'm sorry that most people that pre-ordered their game wanted a lag free / bug free game, but come on folks its a beta. Now that being said, if the same "infinite loop" portal and station lag bugs continue into retail, then by all means rip them a new one as will I.

Overall the game is a fun game that can satisfy people that are looking for MMO elements, but want the ability to play the game in 15 minute spurts without spending an entire weekend in planning Raids and grouping. Someone else compared the online component to Guild Wars and they aren't far off the mark.

Since the demo hitting any time now will focus on single player missions, I am really curious how it compares to the beta. Once that hits, if it still plays the same then I can see myself playing the game to completion, but there won't be any replay value in it.

[Deadend]

pleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegood

[Zurik]

There's a lot to bash for both titles. I happen to prefer TaRa, but it's really comparing a Big Mac to a Whopper - neither one is a steak.

I really wanted Hellgate to be good, and I forced myself through hours of the terrible everything (graphics, gameplay, sound effects, scripting, dialog, bugs - everything!) to find something to cling to. Ultimately, it pushed me away and I guarantee at launch when the NDA is lifted you're going to see the same thing said by most everyone else. It's a half-baked game in every way.

TaRa I heard nothing but terrible things about and when I tried it I was surprised to find it was an ok game. Not fantastic, but ok. Certainly not the TOTAL SHIT that I kept being told.

Hey - I urge everyone to try Hellgate for themselves. Please do. Maybe you'll like it!

I don't think you will, though.

Although I do disagree, being as that I'm in the beta and play a few hours each night, I don't really believe that what I say here would convert any people to the game. This is probably a bad example, but I played Auto Assault up until the end because I get addicted to games with lots of different weapons and destructable stuff. Basically all I wanted from Hellgate was lots of weapon and armor combinations with slots like they mentioned way back when the game first was announced, and its not disappointed me in that respect. There's some cool stuff around level 15 and up that I wish I could mention here, but not until the NDA goes down.

[Ancalagon]

Flame much?

Just because you broke the NDA & are spewing your negative opinion, doesn't mean shit to me. I haven't passed final judgment on the game, nor am I a fanboi. I am someone who has been waiting on the game for over 3 years.

I could care less how well it sells, but acting like your opinion is the final fucking word is so conceited and off base, so do yourself a favor & STFU!

Hidden agenda by any chance?

[DubiousQuality]

based on the popularity of wow and diablo, i think most people will like this game. Now Hellgate obviously doesn't have the Blizzard polish, and like most games its being rushed out the door, however the base gameplay is what has addicted legions of players already.

For a game thats been in development as long as it has, I'd hardly say its being rushed out the door. I was excited when it was first announced, but the more I've seen on it the past few months, plus the whole subscription fiasco. I'll prolly pass. I'll give the demo a whirl though.

[Winterwolves]

Hidden agenda by any chance?

nope...

but atleast GrinR said to try it for yourself.
Sure it may not be for everyone, but to call it "total shit" is misleading.

I really wanted Hellgate to be good, and I forced myself through hours of the terrible everything (graphics, gameplay, sound effects, scripting, dialog, bugs - everything!) to find something to cling to. Ultimately, it pushed me away and I guarantee at launch when the "NDA is lifted you're going to see the same thing said by most everyone else. It's a half-baked game in every way.



The only thing that matters to me in a game is how much fun it is to play.
It is a hard thing to measure, since you don't know what is fun for every last person in the world.

Touted as being the successor to D2 is a tall order to fill, especially for the first game coming from their company.

In less than 2 weeks, hellgate will make it's mark on gaming history one way or another.

I don't know how it will be received, (since there isn't anyone who has played the retail version of the game) so until then it is just speculation & opinions based on the beta test.

I can't wait to try the demo & post my reactions, good or bad. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out over the next couple months. As someone who has watched & waited for this game for years.

[pheriannath]

I've been testing since the alpha and I can say the game has come a really long way. People who complain about the current bugs should have seen what we were dealing with months ago..

For the record, I've really enjoyed it - the NDA prevents me from saying any more.

[roboninja]

I will try the demo, but I am not expecting much. I am not even a huge Diablo fan.

[eth3rton]

lol...

Just got an Beta invitation in my email.... No thanks.

[51|RandoM]

I'll give the demo a spin but kind of decided to pass on this game way back when they announced their bizarre pricing scheme.

[Ancalagon]

I'll try the demo, I owe it that much. I wont go for the monthly subscription, not interested in online play that much. Sucks about the content I'll lose though (one would help they collect it up and release it for free download 6 months after the subscribers get it).

Anyway, to those in the beta, there is one thing I wish to ask.

Suppose, that they were to fix all and any major bugs. So works in vista, works with Dx10, runs at acceptable framerates, sound works, network works, doesnt crash at odd intervals.

If that were the case, would it be fun to play? Or is the whole idea of the game, its classes, its monsters and its skills so crap that no amount of patching can fix it?

A simple yay or nay, or perhaps Half Life or Daikatana will suffice.

[Kem0sabe]

I'll try the demo, I owe it that much. I wont go for the monthly subscription, not interested in online play that much. Sucks about the content I'll lose though (one would help they collect it up and release it for free download 6 months after the subscribers get it).

Anyway, to those in the beta, there is one thing I wish to ask.

Suppose, that they were to fix all and any major bugs. So works in vista, works with Dx10, runs at acceptable framerates, sound works, network works, doesnt crash at odd intervals.

If that were the case, would it be fun to play? Or is the whole idea of the game, its classes, its monsters and its skills so crap that no amount of patching can fix it?

A simple yay or nay, or perhaps Half Life or Daikatana will suffice.

Nay...

The class skills are just not fun or diverse enough.

They story, npc's and levels are crap as well.

With an expansion adding better content, then i might be interested, as it is, not by a long shot.

[Gedd]

EA Games - Developmentally Challenged byEverything!

I'm still boycotting.

[Ancalagon]

Yes, I agree with you about EA.

From the looks of things, it doesnt sound like Hellgate is such a loss.

Even Crysis I can go without, if it means depriving EA of my money. If only everyone felt the same way, EA might actually be forced to produce quality! Shock! Horror!

[Major Scud]

I'm in beta, along with a bunch of friends from work, and my brother and his friends. We all like it. Nobody I've talked to outside of forums has disliked it. It's very much a 1st/3rd person diablo game. Heck, I'm even considering doing the founders offer.

[lockwoodx]

I'll try the demo, I owe it that much. I wont go for the monthly subscription, not interested in online play that much. Sucks about the content I'll lose though (one would help they collect it up and release it for free download 6 months after the subscribers get it).

Anyway, to those in the beta, there is one thing I wish to ask.

Suppose, that they were to fix all and any major bugs. So works in vista, works with Dx10, runs at acceptable framerates, sound works, network works, doesnt crash at odd intervals.

If that were the case, would it be fun to play? Or is the whole idea of the game, its classes, its monsters and its skills so crap that no amount of patching can fix it?

A simple yay or nay, or perhaps Half Life or Daikatana will suffice.

Hmmmmm then it would be alot better but the skills fro all the classes need a total revamp. Also it's still the same as guild wars except they want to charge for a subscription so stick to the free content.

[51|RandoM]

As in the old days it might be wise to bite that bit of gold. It could just be a lesser metal with plating.