Bungie Finally Weilds the Banhammer!

[ldi222]

Tomorrow, Wednesday the 20th of July, we will release Autoupdate 4. This is a small file that updates your version of Halo 2 to address various issues. It only takes a moment to download the file, but it is required for continued play on Xbox Live. If you do not wish to download the file, that is your choice, however, you will not be able to play Halo 2 on the Live service.So you've been warned. Read on for lots of specific info.
Read the FAQ. (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=autoupdate4&p=4040317)

Im glad Bungie is on top of this modding situation and taking it very seriously. Now we find out if they have the technical capacity to succeed in eliminating cheating on Xbox Live.

[fndarkone]

its amazing to me that there is cheating on a console system.

[Talltale]

Whew.. you should have seen PSO for the Dreamcast. Cheating on a console sure isn't a new thing.

[PantherModern]

Good to hear. I haven't really encountered any cheaters in a while, but I can see it being a huge problem. Hopefully this will set a precedent that other console game manufacturers will follow. Often it seems like console makers are even worse about patching/fixing games after they are out, despite the fact that playing on a console is supposed to be a "problem-free" experience that is sooooooo much better and easier than a pc (yeah right). In any case, good to see the ban-hammer fall.

Enforce that EULA Bungie!

[jacob.armitage]

whew, glad to hear it, ive been encountering more and more "modders" lately.

[emperordahc]

GOD I hate cheating in online games. Geeze. What's the point of playing if you're cheating?

[Zeal]

I love when Bungie attempts to talk tough. Players shouldn't be responsible for finding exploits in Bungie's shitty code.

Direct cheating, sure, but exploiting bugs that were originally there? Psh.

Fuck Halo 2.

[Kefkataran]

I like the "Cheaters Am Cry" picture. I'm considering making it my background.

[Blue]

I like the "Cheaters Am Cry" picture. I'm considering making it my background.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Picture? What's this picture? Stop making things up! Mr. Burns is a Vampire. Beer kills brain cells.

[VYPUR]

Screw the cheating bastards!

[Kefkataran]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Picture? What's this picture? Stop making things up! Mr. Burns is a Vampire. Beer kills brain cells.

I... uh... the picture... when you click the link.

[Blue]

I... uh... the picture... when you click the link.

Silence!!!

[EvilBob46]

Oooo Bungie is so BAAAAAAAAAD...that is until people find new cheats and exploits a week after the update is out just like what happened last time.

[Blue]

Oooo Bungie is so BAAAAAAAAAD...that is until people find new cheats and exploits a week after the update is out just like what happened last time.

I played a game the other day in Containment (Multi-flag CTF) and the other team had at least three people on the other team running the same cheat. They would literally grab the flag and be back at their base within a matter of seconds. Total, the match lasted 1min, 24sec with 3 flag captures. That's ridiculous. Though I did somehow manage to sticky bomb one of them. Unhappy, they were.

[Zeal]

Oooo Bungie is so BAAAAAAAAAD...that is until people find new cheats and exploits a week after the update is out just like what happened last time.

I know, right.

[Blue]

I know, right.

Bungie makes fun games. People ruin them. Bungie bad! Blar blar blar.

[Furious Wang]

Q: Why didn't you give us any warning?

A: Actually we did, several times. For weeks. Also, we don't actually owe you any warning if you've been cheating. It serves you right. You don't deserve to play with skilled, fair, legitimate Halo 2 fans.


Good job Bungie. Get all of them.

This almost makes me want to go rebuy Halo 2. I traded it in on principle alone.

Man oh man John Roberts looks like a complete shitbag. Oh man and he's crying now too! THERE'S NO CRYING ON THE SUPREME COURT!

[*Legion*]

its amazing to me that there is cheating on a console system.

Consoles are computers like any other.

[Groo]

People need to find something better to do than finding Halo 2 exploits.

[jacktion]

Ummmmmmmmmmm.......

I don't really have anything to say...










(wields)

[Neverborne]

I love when Bungie attempts to talk tough. Players shouldn't be responsible for finding exploits in Bungie's shitty code.

Direct cheating, sure, but exploiting bugs that were originally there? Psh.

Fuck Halo 2.

You're the jackass that hid the bomb off the map and waited for everyone to quit. Puss.

[Plac1d]

People need to find something better to do than finding Halo 2 exploits.
Agreed. Your time is better spent warthog jumping (http://www.addictinggames.com/warthog.html)!

[Taco]

My nine year old cousin cheats in CS. And I knew a few teenagers who cheat when they are with their buddies, but not otherwise.

[Paranoia]

Bungie doing something to fix the problem and people still whine? Psh..

[bapenguin]

i just picked up the map pack tonight, they are really well polished. Good stuff...still love this game.

[Reanimated]

w00t!

I have to say though, I've been lucky in that I haven't encountered any cheaters while in matchmaking. Someone showed me that teleporter trick on Relic once, but that map isn't even in the matchmaking rotation.

[Red Cloak]

'Cheaters Am Cry' is a reference to www.opa-ages.com legend Reirom. We are celebrating this bit of internet gaming victory right now. PSM used 'am cry' last month as well.

Reirom midas netal

[pacman]

My nine year old cousin cheats in CS.

You should tell your cousin to knock that shit off. I used to hate people like that when I played CS...especially little kids cheating...ugh

[Kagger]

Xbox Live may only be accessed with an unmodified, except for Microsoft authorized repairs and upgrades, Xbox video game console. Any attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further sublicense, distribute or use for other purposes either the hardware or software of the Xbox or the Service, is strictly prohibited and may result in termination of your account and/or your ability to access Xbox Live via your Xbox, and the pursuit of other legal remedies by Microsoft. Microsoft may take any legal action it deems appropriate against users who violate Microsoft's systems or network security, and such users may also incur criminal and/or civil liability.




Ow....I'm so lucky my OCD didn't act up when I read that....sooo many commas. (perios are a mental rest for me...no mid thought stopping)



My brother told me he used to hack back in the early CS day. He doesn't anymore, but he's still a freaking Team Killer. He plays breakfloor pretty much exlusivley now, he "kills all." Pshh

Back when SC: PT came out for PS2, and the glitches were just being discovered, I went into an unranked game to try out the glitch in Warehouse that let you get to area 2 before area 1 was complete. We couldn't get it to work...but it was interesting. I would never use it, even if I knew how to do it. We never really got it to work. (it was an unranked game I stress...and we were testing!:P)

Being and admin for Jedi Knight...Team Killers and the like bother me. We don't run into hackers in that game...just lamers (attacking defenessplayers who are just sitting there not dueling. Oh...and people who rush at the beginning of a duel. Its a server rule and common courtesy to bow so your oppenent has time to group themselves.

I remember they just fixed that teleport trick with a rocket launcher and sword...now this.

[Blue]

Ow....I'm so lucky my OCD didn't act up when I read that....sooo many commas. (perios are a mental rest for me...no mid thought stopping)

I love Honey Nut Perios. Mmmmmm.

[Zeal]

You're the jackass that hid the bomb off the map and waited for everyone to quit. Puss.

Actually, that particular trick made me want to smash my controller through the TV screen.

[jwbxx]

Actually, that particular trick made me want to smash my controller through the TV screen.A guy did that to my team, the game went on for 45 minutes. We finally found it, then planted it on them for the next round, the average kill count was around 70.

Anyways i play some newb who had auto aim,super speed mod, super jump, and he knew how to get on top of the level. But he still fucking lost, haha.

[Kagger]

I love Honey Nut Perios. Mmmmmm.

Ouch man...Ouch. I meant periods...but ouch.

[Morratut]

Nice one Bungie!!! Killtacular!!!!

I haven't encountered any cheaters on Halo 2 to be honest. I love playing online in Halo 2 so very very much. :D

[Varsity]

You're the jackass that hid the bomb off the map and waited for everyone to quit. Puss.
I've got a theory that for a normal game in that regard, the number of haters is generally proportional to a game's popularity and not its quality.

[Adam Blue]

Big Team Battle playing Assault. There was a dude on the opposite team you just effin flew every as fast has he wanted. When the round started we all stood around the waypoint waiting for him to pop up. We had a tank and 2 jeeps sitting there too. We all saw this fast-paced skipping spartan shoot across the place where you arm the bomb, and we all started screaming, shooting everywhere. The guy in the tank went nuts and shot one of us. A few betrayals later the guy just dissapeared.

Oh and one time a guy was trying the standby trick and lagged out. HAhahaha.

[stomper1080]

Now we find out if they have the technical capacity to succeed in eliminating cheating on Xbox Live.[/i]

I think they've always had the technical capability...I think that they may have already solved the current cheating problems a while ago and have simply been trying to predict what the cheaters will do next, so they can put that in this autoupdate as well.

After all, you fix one way to cheat and it's only a matter of time before the cheaters come up with another.

[Vandenh]

>Direct cheating, sure, but exploiting bugs that were originally there? Psh.

Err.. somebody doesn play Halo 2. These "modders" are direct cheaters... Bungie fixed almost all exploits. They only thing that is left now, is people changing the actual maps to give them "special" abilities.

Post when you know something about the thread in the future. Thank you.

[Oversized Landmass]

I before e, except after c.

[stomper1080]

Post when you know something about the thread in the future. Thank you.

Hehe, I guess playing Halo 2 online since it was releaseed doesnt count for anything then?

And what I was saying still applies. Bungie has been improving their software which helps them find people who have cheated.

[Vandenh]

>Hehe, I guess playing Halo 2 online since it was releaseed doesnt count for anything then?

My quote was from Zeal :)

I wasn't replying to your post....

[Goronmon]

Oooo Bungie is so BAAAAAAAAAD...that is until people find new cheats and exploits a week after the update is out just like what happened last time.
What is the logic in posts like this? I mean, since they can't get rid of cheats forever they should just stop trying.

IMO, someone's just pissed that are no longer "teh 0wnz0r" due to their modded XBox ;)

[peeweejd]

why are they warning these guys now? they should just silently release the autoupdate and hope the retards are stupid enough to download it and get banned..

and they should ban their whole xbox from live like they did originally with the chipped xboxes..

if you want to stop these jerkoffs, you gotta hit them where it hurts... make them buy a new xbox (or whatever ithe hell it is that lets you un banz0r them) if they want to play again...

don't friggin tell them to delete the crap now or else... cause when the new exploits come up (and they will) they will just keep using them until they get the "autoupdate warning"...

[Blue]

Ouch man...Ouch. I meant periods...but ouch.

Come come now. Twas all in good fun. I don't even like Honey Nut Perios. That Bee creeps me out somethin' fierce. He's always running around, telling you what to do. I'm allergic to bees and if I don't eat his cereal, he'll sting me right in the face and cause my entire head to swell. That just ain't right.

At least that Trix fellow is a victim. The Bee is some sort of weird, totalitarian dictator. He has murder in his eyes.

[Kefkataran]

At least that Trix fellow is a victim. The Bee is some sort of weird, totalitarian dictator. He has murder in his eyes.

So I'm not the only one who sees it?

[Blue]

So I'm not the only one who sees it?

Not a bit man. Not a bit.

[sol740]

I love when Bungie attempts to talk tough. Players shouldn't be responsible for finding exploits in Bungie's shitty code.

Direct cheating, sure, but exploiting bugs that were originally there? Psh.

Fuck Halo 2.

I know Zeal, I remember all those times you wrote that completely flawless and bugless code and we sat and admired your "1337" skillz ...

PLEASE ... you're an idiot. You're the reason people actually sit and find cheats and go ...

' its okay ! its okay ! I "found" it. I'm not an asshole ... Im not !!! '

[sol740]

why are they warning these guys now? they should just silently release the autoupdate and hope the retards are stupid enough to download it and get banned..

and they should ban their whole xbox from live like they did originally with the chipped xboxes..

if you want to stop these jerkoffs, you gotta hit them where it hurts... make them buy a new xbox (or whatever ithe hell it is that lets you un banz0r them) if they want to play again...

don't friggin tell them to delete the crap now or else... cause when the new exploits come up (and they will) they will just keep using them until they get the "autoupdate warning"...


I couldn't agree more, just like when Xbox live launched and all those people were like " hey what happen, someone set up us the bomb !!! "

[ldi222]

The thing that worries me is a lot of these jokers do not mind loosing their xblive account. They just go and get another free two month card and start a new nick and then get the bonus of playing noobs for a while which ruins that part of matchmaking as well even if they arent cheating.

I am hoping the ban is more than just tied to an account name and related to IP or Mac address but from what I can tell from this information its not. Looking forward this could become even worse when 360 makes available accounts that do not even need a credit card number to be active. However... it would serve in a kind of backwards way to let MS claim more account numbers to make their service appear larger...

[Hijinx]

Nice I might start playing again.

[Mav]

GOD I hate cheating in online games. Geeze. What's the point of playing if you're cheating?

I think their goal is to win usually

I'm all for cheats, hacks n trainers. I mean, I love playing just about any game, but it sucks ass when you log into a server and just completely steam rolled by others. That makes the game no fun at all. And yea even with "practice" and learning every tiny aspect of the game, you still can get your virtual ass kicked. For my $50, I wanna win some damn games from time to time, that isn't aganist bots.

*disclaimer* i do not play console games, nor have i ever played halo 1&2

[Kefkataran]

I'm all for cheats, hacks n trainers. I mean, I love playing just about any game, but it sucks ass when you log into a server and just completely steam rolled by others. That makes the game no fun at all. And yea even with "practice" and learning every tiny aspect of the game, you still can get your virtual ass kicked. For my $50, I wanna win some damn games from time to time, that isn't aganist bots.

... "Hi. I suck at games. BUT, get this, I still keep spending money on them. And because I spend my money on them, I deserve to WIN! Against others who've spent their money on the game! NO MATTER WHAT! WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T WIN?!?! BUT I WANNA!!!! /stomp foot /bawl"

What a stupid attitude. Because you spent money on the game you've earned the right to ruin it for others who've spent money also? Sounds like a spoiled rich kid.

[Groo]

I think their goal is to win usually

I'm all for cheats, hacks n trainers. I mean, I love playing just about any game, but it sucks ass when you log into a server and just completely steam rolled by others. That makes the game no fun at all. And yea even with "practice" and learning every tiny aspect of the game, you still can get your virtual ass kicked. For my $50, I wanna win some damn games from time to time, that isn't aganist bots.

*disclaimer* i do not play console games, nor have i ever played halo 1&2

How about this: try winning by actually being good at the game.

[Kefkataran]

"but, Groo, Even If You "practice" (whatever That Means) And Memorize The Manual, You Can Still Get Your Virtual Ass Kicked! It's Not Faiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrr!!! I Wann Win!"