View Full Version : PS3 40 Gig Confirmation?
Siraris
09-24-2007, 09:33 AM
As I said the other day, I was quite surprised that Sony didn't announce a cheaper model to head into this holiday season, especially with Halo 3 launching in a matter of days. Looks like (http://news.sky.com/skynews/xml/article/tech/0,,91221-10259,00.html) the rumors may be true though, as Sky News is reporting Sony and Foxconn have entered into an agreement to make a cheaper Playstation 3.
An electronic manufacturing news source has revealed that Sony has turned to Taiwanese manufacturer FoxConn to make the rumoured lower-specced version.
Although it appears the 80GB model will continue to be made by ASUSTeK, the manufacturer for the new rumoured 40GB model will be the same company that produces Sony's PS2s.
This would be great news for the Playstation 3, as going into the holiday with your console costing $600, with no big system sellers would certainly not help sales much. Now they just need to get it out in time.
CaptStu
09-24-2007, 09:47 AM
Now if it only had a slew of games.
/Troll off. :)
TheFlyingOrc
09-24-2007, 09:48 AM
Too much rumor as I see it. Especially since they claimed they were "working to get to one SKU". If this is true, I'll have to start assuming Sony is lying with every statement, not just suspecting that this is the case.
menage
09-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Releasing a 40 GB model, add rumble, I think Sony is actually accepting that we don't swallow everything they think we want. If true of course.
Now, about that team Ico game:P
DangerousDaze
09-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Why don't they do a cheap-ass no Gig version and let people "roll their own"? The disk is user-installable/changeable anyway so these are hardly discrete models they're launching.
CaptStu
09-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Too much rumor as I see it. Especially since they claimed they were "working to get to one SKU". If this is true, I'll have to start assuming Sony is lying with every statement, not just suspecting that this is the case.
Start assuming? Really? Just now? Come on. You're much smarter than that.
kid cabelgo
09-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Too much rumor as I see it. Especially since they claimed they were "working to get to one SKU". If this is true, I'll have to start assuming Sony is lying with every statement, not just suspecting that this is the case.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070924.jpg
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 09:50 AM
How exactly would this require a manufacturing deal? If it's just a smaller HDD, just put in a 40GB instead of an 80GB. The lower spec thing is strange too. They can remove the card readers and the WiFi (like the 20GB units were), but other than that they pretty much need everything else for the games they have out now. I know I've seen it speculated that they'd remove backwards compatibility, but that makes no sense as it's all done via software now.
TheFlyingOrc
09-24-2007, 09:50 AM
Start assuming? Really? Just now? Come on. You're much smarter than that.
Yeah, but now I'll assume that when an exec says "I had a muffin for breakfast this morning", he actually raped a kitten.
CaptStu
09-24-2007, 09:51 AM
Yeah, but now I'll assume that when an exec says "I had a muffin for breakfast this morning", he actually raped a kitten.
Oh, I see. You may be right to start thinking that way.
violentp
09-24-2007, 10:01 AM
A little bird told me about this about a week ago. $400 price point too. Let's hope it's enough.
Norse
09-24-2007, 10:02 AM
Adding more SKUs to the mix may not be the best idea. Wouldn't it be better if they just kept the 60GB version and reduced its price? 20GB can't cost Sony that much.
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 10:03 AM
A 40GB drive doesn't save Sony any real money. Most of the pricing difference you see at retail between different densities of single-platter drives is artificial.
Haemorrhage
09-24-2007, 10:03 AM
I don't see how simply putting in 40 gigs HDD instead of a 60 gig HDD will create that big of a savings for Sony. What am I missing? Like Gorvi said, if you strip everything else out except the Blu-ray player, then maybe you can realistically start dropping the price in line with the Xbox 360.
I am getting tired of the constantly changing SKU's and specs for the consoles this generation, it is confusing for consumers. Make of your damn minds Sony and MS. Take and example from Nintendo...then seem to be doing OK for themselves.
PathMaster
09-24-2007, 10:06 AM
How is this a confirmation? It will only be such when retailers have it in the warehouse.
Besides that, this could be a good move by Sony. Sony better hope for no pissed off customers over a cheaper model. I still wonder what, if any, MS will do in response.
Norse
09-24-2007, 10:07 AM
Why did they kill the 20GB? Would that SKU be a great way to fight Wii and X360 in the long term?
It had a much smaller HDD, no card readers and no WiFi. With cheaper production that SKU should be able to hit the $299 mark much faster than any of the other SKUs.
TheFlyingOrc
09-24-2007, 10:07 AM
How is this a confirmation? It will only be such when retailers have it in the warehouse.
(he does have a question mark in the title)
scythe
09-24-2007, 10:08 AM
Timescales touted for the launch of the new model are either this week at the Tokyo Game Show, or early next week in order to "spoil" the high profile Halo 3 launch for Microsoft's rival Xbox 360.
Yeah unfortunately this story is already 4 days old, and TGS is over... unless Sony announces this today or tomorrow, I'd say it's BS.
Deadend
09-24-2007, 10:17 AM
But what about the wi-fi? Don't you need that for the PSP crap?
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Why did they kill the 20GB? Would that SKU be a great way to fight Wii and X360 in the long term?
Retailers didn't want the 20GB SKU---mainly because Sony's pricing made it impossible for the retailers to make any money on it.
...which Sony may have intentionally done since they lost more money on each 20GB SKU than on the 60GB SKU.
Zander
09-24-2007, 10:19 AM
They have already said the Dual-Shock 3 won't hit the states until 08, so they would release a new SKU, WITHOUT the new Dual-Shock 3, now?
I'm not 100% buying this rumor as stated.
They'll announce it this week to take some press from Halo3..i'd be surprised if they didn't do it tomorrow. But it is stupid...because it will be a few months out before it will be released. Why don't they make them...then do a press release a few weeks before they are on sale so people don't stop buying the 599 one, waiting months for the 399 one?
Sony is stupid like that...
Zanch
09-24-2007, 10:21 AM
But but...MS is teh confusing with their multiple SKUs! Right? Right??
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 10:21 AM
But what about the wi-fi? Don't you need that for the PSP crap?
Local, you can, but you can just go through your router for that. It doesn't matter at all with online Remote Play.
They have already said the Dual-Shock 3 won't hit the states until 08, so they would release a new SKU, WITHOUT the new Dual-Shock 3, now?
I'm not 100% buying this rumor as stated.
Yes it is already stated that the new rumble ps3 controllers WILL NOT be packaged with ps3 systems. You will have to buy them seperately.
Norse
09-24-2007, 10:22 AM
Retailers didn't want the 20GB SKU---mainly because Sony's pricing made it impossible for the retailers to make any money on it.
...which Sony may have intentionally done since they lost more money on each 20GB SKU than on the 60GB SKU.
Wow, the 20GB was a really bad idea then. Why didn't Sony see that coming? I guess they should have launched PS3 with the 60GB SKU only and launched the much cheaper 20GB version this holiday.
Siraris
09-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Why don't they do a cheap-ass no Gig version and let people "roll their own"? The disk is user-installable/changeable anyway so these are hardly discrete models they're launching.
Because how many users are going to go out and think to put a hard drive in the unit? They are then completely fragmenting the market like Microsoft is, and developers can't develop a game KNOWING a HDD will be in there.
Local, you can, but you can just go through your router for that. It doesn't matter at all with online Remote Play.
Couldn't you buy a wireless adapter?
Why don't they do a cheap-ass no Gig version and let people "roll their own"? The disk is user-installable/changeable anyway so these are hardly discrete models they're launching.
Ummm....i don't know...because Sony wants to to be able to sell the hard drive to...to you know...make more money...
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 10:26 AM
Couldn't you buy a wireless adapter?
I'm not sure if Remote Play would actually work if you just used a WiFi adapter. Then again, if you're using that, you've more than likely got a wireless router, so you'd just go through that. There really is very little difference in terms of performance between the two.
Yes it is already stated that the new rumble ps3 controllers WILL NOT be packaged with ps3 systems. You will have to buy them seperately.
They aren't now, no, considering there are quite a few sitting on shelves right now. I'm guessing the SIXAXIS will go away just like the 60GB PS3s are now.
AeroHudson
09-24-2007, 10:28 AM
If they do have a $399.99 sku this holiday I would buy one. There are enough games I would like to check out to make that price point make sense to me. Currently at $499.99 I just can't justify it.
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 10:31 AM
Wow, the 20GB was a really bad idea then. Why didn't Sony see that coming? I guess they should have launched PS3 with the 60GB SKU only and launched the much cheaper 20GB version this holiday.
They did see it coming. It was purely a marketing move to show a lower price point. I think it worked as intended, well, at least as well as could be expected.
Sorta like a bait and switch. ;)
Norse
09-24-2007, 10:33 AM
They did see it coming. It was purely a marketing move to show a lower price point. I think it worked as intended, well, at least as well as could be expected.
Sorta like a bait and switch. ;)
It worked? Did any of the PS3 SKUs sell well before the 20GB was removed?
fatefodder
09-24-2007, 10:44 AM
$399.99 with a packaged Dual Shock 3 would be a great move, if about a year late. "Welcome to the future past" indeed.
TheFlyingOrc
09-24-2007, 10:50 AM
I think the best thing for Sony to do would have been to release the PS3 this year instead of last. Had they not already taken the losses, a $399 SKU would be feasible this Christmas. The only reason I can figure they released last year was because they wanted Blu-Ray to compete with HD-DVD.
DangerousDaze
09-24-2007, 10:50 AM
Ummm....i don't know...because Sony wants to to be able to sell the hard drive to...to you know...make more money...
Why didn't I think of that? That must be why they made them user-swappable rather than built-in like, say, Microsoft. Or not.
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 10:53 AM
But but...MS is teh confusing with their multiple SKUs! Right? Right??
The problem with MS' approach is that the key difference in their two original SKUs was of critical importance to developers. With the PS3 they're pretty much the same box as far as a developer is concerned.
MS has the core for the same reason Sony had the 20GB.
jpublic
09-24-2007, 10:58 AM
I think the important part of this rumor is the Foxconn angle. If Sony manages to pull any of their manufacturing away from Asus, which is historically a higher-cost manufacturer, it could result in lower production costs *and* a lower price point.
Of course, knowing the insanity rampany in the executive at Sony, they'd probably raise the prices for some reason.
Siraris
09-24-2007, 10:59 AM
Here's some more from CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=172535)
CVG has learnt from several sources that PS3 is about to step up to the console war in a big way.
Speaking off the record (which means we can't name names), we've been told by sources in both the publishing and retail sectors that PS3 is on the verge of receiving a massive price cut - to £299.
They say they are going to make the announcement this week. I'm really confused now.
Wraith
09-24-2007, 11:05 AM
- 20-40 GB hard drive
- top-loading or tray-loading optical drive (if cheaper than slot-loading)
- delete card reader
- trade piano black shell for something more simpler/cheaper to produce, maybe a bit smaller
- leave wireless controller and HDMI port intact
- sell it for $400, alongside new lineup of $30 Greatest Hits titles
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 11:09 AM
It worked? Did any of the PS3 SKUs sell well before the 20GB was removed?
Did I say that was the intent?
The intent was to show a lower price point, and they did. Surely you can remember the SDF going on and on about the 20GB SKU and how it was the smart purchase and how it was the real cost of entry?
I can remember it quite clearly---I was(am) one of them. :o
KarmaGhost
09-24-2007, 11:10 AM
You still need apps to move your hardware and Sony has only a couple exclusives that would tempt the masses enough to go for (nearly) broke.
Digital Outlaw
09-24-2007, 11:10 AM
- 20-40 GB hard drive
- top-loading or tray-loading optical drive (if cheaper than slot-loading)
- delete card reader
- trade piano black shell for something more simpler/cheaper to produce, maybe a bit smaller
- leave wireless controller and HDMI port intact
- sell it for $400, alongside new lineup of $30 Greatest Hits titles
Thats the problem, they don't have any "greatest hits"
51|RandoM
09-24-2007, 11:12 AM
- sell it for $400, alongside new lineup of $30 Greatest Hits titles
Even as a Sony fan I really have to chuckle about them starting up a PS3 Greatest Hits line already. I can only think of two titles that fit that billing and I already own both.
Wraith
09-24-2007, 11:15 AM
Thats the problem, they don't have any "greatest hits"Even as a Sony fan I really have to chuckle about them starting up a PS3 Greatest Hits line already. I can only think of two titles that fit that billing and I already own both.Yeah, it may not be feasible at this point, but having a few $30 titles available would help encourage system sales. (Being able to take the system home with two "budget" titles, rather than a single full-price game.)
Deadend
09-24-2007, 11:16 AM
Even as a Sony fan I really have to chuckle about them starting up a PS3 Greatest Hits line already. I can only think of two titles that fit that billing and I already own both.
but see, everyone should have Resistance and Motorstorm... which probably going to cause them to stay at $60, because at least some games need to be bought.
Meh, the PS3 is kinda fucked.
I fail to see how they can come out with a $400 PS3 by just cutting the HDD size and axing some of the other features. Those aren't a significant chunk of the cost, which they are still losing money on.
TrackZero
09-24-2007, 11:36 AM
Smart move depending on the price drop included.
oldjadedgamer
09-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Did I say that was the intent?
The intent was to show a lower price point, and they did. Surely you can remember the SDF going on and on about the 20GB SKU and how it was the smart purchase and how it was the real cost of entry?
I can remember it quite clearly---I was(am) one of them. :o
The 20 gig is still the best value IMO.
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 11:57 AM
The 20 gig is still the best value IMO.
Considering you can get a 60GB with the built in WiFi for what the 20GB used to go for, how is that so?
Twigz'N'Berries
09-24-2007, 11:58 AM
but see, everyone should have Resistance and Motorstorm... which probably going to cause them to stay at $60, because at least some games need to be bought.
Meh, the PS3 is kinda fucked.
How long have we been hearing that...and the systems continue to sell. PS3 will be fine, and I'd expect an announcement of a lower priced sku to steal some of the Halo 3 thunder soon. Its true Sony doesn't have many exclusives...for now. But it has a few AAA titles coming out like MGS4, (from what we have seen) Drake, Folklore, Haze...etc. Plus, many titles will be multi between 360 and the PS3. So it won't be that the PS3 misses out on a lot of great titles.
What arethe 360 exclusives coming out that people are clamoring for...besides Halo 3 in the next 3 months?
Deadend
09-24-2007, 12:00 PM
How long have we been hearing that...and the systems continue to sell. PS3 will be fine, and I'd expect an announcement of a lower priced sku to steal some of the Halo 3 thunder soon. Its true Sony doesn't have many exclusives...for now. But it has a few AAA titles coming out like MGS4, (from what we have seen) Drake, Folklore, Haze...etc. Plus, many titles will be multi between 360 and the PS3. So it won't be that the PS3 misses out on a lot of great titles.
What arethe 360 exclusives coming out that people are clamoring for...besides Halo 3 in the next 3 months?
Eh, no accounting for idiots with too much money. I have noticed the people buying PS3s seem to have no answer for why they are buying a system.
If they do have a $399.99 sku this holiday I would buy one. There are enough games I would like to check out to make that price point make sense to me. Currently at $499.99 I just can't justify it.
You mean currently at $599?
$399.99 with a packaged Dual Shock 3 would be a great move, if about a year late. "Welcome to the future past" indeed.
Ummm...dual shock 3 is not out until spring 2008 in Europe and US...nice thought though...
How long have we been hearing that...and the systems continue to sell. PS3 will be fine, and I'd expect an announcement of a lower priced sku to steal some of the Halo 3 thunder soon. Its true Sony doesn't have many exclusives...for now. But it has a few AAA titles coming out like MGS4, (from what we have seen) Drake, Folklore, Haze...etc. Plus, many titles will be multi between 360 and the PS3. So it won't be that the PS3 misses out on a lot of great titles.
What arethe 360 exclusives coming out that people are clamoring for...besides Halo 3 in the next 3 months?
Oh boy...I'm not even going to start in on this guy :)
How can you have 972 posts on this forum and not know about the insane holiday lineup that Microsoft has and the lack of a holiday lineup that Sony has?
If you are banking on Folklore or Drakes to be a difference maker you're still on board the Sony crazy train. Toot Toot!
Eh, no accounting for idiots with too much money. I have noticed the people buying PS3s seem to have no answer for why they are buying a system.
Dead...it is all about being defensive. No one wants to hear how crappy a purchase they just made was.
Like i have been saying for months. No reason to buy a ps3 until mid next year. Now more than ever. You might even get a rumble controller if you wait until mid next year, and you'll have a few decent games to play that aren't on the 360. LittleBigPlanet and MGS are pretty much the only good exclusives Sony has in the next 6 months...
Besides that every multiplatform game gets better reviews on the 360 than on the ps3, check metacritic if you don't believe it.
I'm down on Sony because they deserve it. If they put out some quality games on a system with a reasonable price with features that i want, then i might be a bit more pleased. I'm sure many of you feel the same.
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 12:27 PM
You mean currently at $599?
You mean $499 (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020072)?
why am i the only one posting? Is everyone standing in line for H3 already?
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 12:28 PM
Eh, no accounting for idiots with too much money. I have noticed the people buying PS3s seem to have no answer for why they are buying a system.
No accounting for idiots insulting others on message boards, either, I guess. :rolleyes:
You mean $499 (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020072)?
I didn't think they had any 60gbs left? Hmm...i guess that is more of a negative for Sony if they stopped making them, but still have them readily available.
Looks like it's just me and you Gorvi...want to form a secret alliance? No one will suspect us working together ;)
P.S. I'm hoping you win the Halo3 360 through the EvAv contest...i need you on that platform.
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 12:33 PM
I didn't think they had any 60gbs left? Hmm...i guess that is more of a negative for Sony if they stopped making them, but still have them readily available.
Considering they've manufactured quite a few of them, it's not exactly surpriseing. I'd be willing to bet they'll be around for the next few months. Hell, you can still get a 20GB for $450 (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020071).
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 12:34 PM
Looks like it's just me and you Gorvi...want to form a secret alliance? No one will suspect us working together ;)
P.S. I'm hoping you win the Halo3 360 through the EvAv contest...i need you on that platform.
So am I, I want to play FFXI in high res and then some Bioshock. ;)
Considering they've manufactured quite a few of them, it's not exactly surpriseing. I'd be willing to bet they'll be around for the next few months. Hell, you can still get a 20GB for $450 (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020071).
No shit! Hahaha....that's great. i guess there will be a few suckers who don't know the deal and buy that up thinking it is a good deal.
oldjadedgamer
09-24-2007, 01:11 PM
Considering you can get a 60GB with the built in WiFi for what the 20GB used to go for, how is that so?
Used. 20 gigs are super cheap now. I already have a wireless Ethernet bridge that I needed for PS2/Xbox a long time ago, the card readers are 100% pointless and have nothing to do with gaming, and no matter what version I buy, I'll upgrade the hard drive anyway.
Plus, on top of that the 20 gig still has the real backwards compatibility built in. The 20 gig was always the best unit and Sony are complete retards for getting rid of it.
Gorvi
09-24-2007, 01:13 PM
Used. 20 gigs are super cheap now. I already have a wireless Ethernet bridge that I needed for PS2/Xbox a long time ago, the card readers are 100% pointless and have nothing to do with gaming, and no matter what version I buy, I'll upgrade the hard drive anyway.
Plus, on top of that the 20 gig still has the real backwards compatibility built in. The 20 gig was always the best unit and Sony are complete retards for getting rid of it.
Ahh, if you're talking used, then I guess that does make a bit of sense, though I'd still go for the 60 if given the choice.
Jack B
09-24-2007, 01:17 PM
If they've "just turned to Foxcomm" then it sounds like it could be months before they produce, box up and ship across the Pacific. It's already Sept 24th. Unless the agreement was really done a while ago there is at least a couple months of ramp time. Maybe they could get them to stores by Nov 24th, but probably not much earlier.
Still the annoucement alone will slow down some 360 momentum.
DeejayKnight
09-24-2007, 01:22 PM
I own a PS3 and a 360. Both consoles have aftermarket things that make your experience more "complete", and that's what it's come down to so this argument doesn't bother me in the least.
All I know is that a $400 PS3 would bring in a LOT more customers for the platform AND make the gaming landscape better for the gamers.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be checking to see if the line is forming for Halo 3... :D
Durka-Dan
09-24-2007, 01:38 PM
Eh, no accounting for idiots with too much money. I have noticed the people buying PS3s seem to have no answer for why they are buying a system.
SOCOM!!
Also, if they release the new SKU without the DualShock 3, that doesn't mean they can't come out with a christmas bundle of the two. Or some kind of weird trade in. I remember I got my 60 gig by trading in my PS2 and an extra controller for $100 off at gamestop. Perhaps something in that order is due.
Twigz'N'Berries
09-24-2007, 01:40 PM
No accounting for idiots insulting others on message boards, either, I guess. :rolleyes:
True. I have a 360, not a PS3 yet. Some of the reason to get a PS3 would include the fact that a lot of games are multiplatform so you choose which exclusives mean more to you. Also:
-BC: you have access to the largest collection of videogames (since PS2 was the most dominate platform ever, it might make sense to be able to keep the library you bought and play most games on it). Personally, I would buy a PS3 and Odin's Sphere...the game looked pretty damn cool.
-Some people still prefer the design of the PS2/3 controller
-You have a BR player and your WiFi is built in (plus the 5 free movies)
-If you have a PSP, the connectivity options coming soon will enhance that platform
-Some like a free online experience
-There are some exclusives people have grown up with and want to keep playing Final Fantasy series, MGS4, Ratchet...etc. Plus, if you prefer JRPG's most will hit the PS3. The 360 isn't known for its strength of JRPGs.
There are many reasons why some would prefer the PS3 and if the price falls more, I know i will pick one up. Its strong point is not the games currently, but that will change soon.
Durka-Dan
09-24-2007, 01:41 PM
If they've "just turned to Foxcomm" then it sounds like it could be months before they produce, box up and ship across the Pacific. It's already Sept 24th. Unless the agreement was really done a while ago there is at least a couple months of ramp time. Maybe they could get them to stores by Nov 24th, but probably not much earlier.
Still the annoucement alone will slow down some 360 momentum.
I recall at the end of Sony's E3 coverage, somebody somewhere said that Sony had something VERY big planned for TGS. Maybe rumble was it, but this new development kind of makes you wonder if this is what they were referencing. If it was, than they could have been working on it for awhile now.
Guy Mariano
09-24-2007, 02:34 PM
It wouldn't even help increase sales. Games help increase sales. In Japan the PS3 is cheap and sales never increase until a game they want comes out then it's back to normal. Without software a price drop will help, but not substantially.
oldjadedgamer
09-24-2007, 02:41 PM
It wouldn't even help increase sales. Games help increase sales. In Japan the PS3 is cheap and sales never increase until a game they want comes out then it's back to normal. Without software a price drop will help, but not substantially.
In Japan the system is around $430 with a game/movie.
Jack B
09-24-2007, 02:49 PM
I recall at the end of Sony's E3 coverage, somebody somewhere said that Sony had something VERY big planned for TGS. Maybe rumble was it, but this new development kind of makes you wonder if this is what they were referencing. If it was, than they could have been working on it for awhile now.
Yep, often our news is quite dated. Who knows for sure. A deal could have been put in motion 2 months ago already. If they have done this deal and it is a $400 price point, then the Osborne Effect will take place if they get people too excited, so I don't expect we'll know too much for sure until just before the actual price drop. Assuming there will be a price drop this year.
I know Kaz said there wouldn't be, but PR guys spend a lot of time back tracking, so it could still happen before December.
Guy Mariano
09-24-2007, 02:56 PM
Yep, often our news is quite dated. Who knows for sure. A deal could have been put in motion 2 months ago already. If they have done this deal and it is a $400 price point, then the Osborne Effect will take place if they get people too excited, so I don't expect we'll know too much for sure until just before the actual price drop. Assuming there will be a price drop this year.
I know Kaz said there wouldn't be, but PR guys spend a lot of time back tracking, so it could still happen before December.
You can't announce a price drop until right before you do it unless you want to sell no consoles until the day the price drop occurs. Either way they should do what MS is doing. Start really focusing on Europe. It's the only large market they still have a shot at winning. X360 has US on lock and whatever ground they gain on the X360 in Japan is minimal.
Jack B
09-24-2007, 02:59 PM
You can't announce a price drop until right before you do it unless you want to sell no consoles until the day the price drop occurs.
Umm, yeah that's what I said, it's called the Osborne Effect after Adam Osbornes famous screwup...
Either way they should do what MS is doing. Start really focusing on Europe. It's the only large market they still have a shot at winning. X360 has US on lock and whatever ground they gain on the X360 in Japan is minimal.
I'd agree. Sony still has a strong base in Europe and it has a lot of growth potential. They could destroy the 360 in Japan, but so far they've struggled. Not nearly as much as the 360, but they've really underachieved against expectations in Japan so far.
Johan
09-24-2007, 03:23 PM
PS3 = Always something to wait for...just around the corner.
Price cuts...game X...Home...game Y...rumble...
Screw 'em.
Durka-Dan
09-24-2007, 03:49 PM
PS3 = Always something to wait for...just around the corner.
Price cuts...game X...Home...game Y...rumble...
Screw 'em.
Wow. Another "[insert console here] equals" line. Your so classy.
Johan
09-24-2007, 04:07 PM
Wow. Another " equals" line. Your so classy.
Feel free to actually dispute it! :D
*that's a tough one!*
Oh, and: "you[I]'re."
pirateTITAN
09-24-2007, 04:19 PM
Wonder how PS3's reliability will be affected, would switching to cheaper manufacturing also mean less reliability?
Durka-Dan
09-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Feel free to actually dispute it! :D
*that's a tough one!*
Oh, and: "you're."
See, there ya go again. Grammar corrections. Such a classy guy you are.
Johan
09-24-2007, 05:44 PM
See, there ya go again. Grammar corrections. Such a classy guy you are.
I like to help people express themselves. It's what I do!
"you."
I would like to hear about a PS3 slim. Could it be done? I wonder...
Durka-Dan
09-24-2007, 05:52 PM
I like to help people express themselves. It's what I do!
"you."
I would like to hear about a PS3 slim. Could it be done? I wonder...
A PS3 slim would be bad ass. Seeing as how things are going with all the SKUs, there'd be like 3 versions of it.
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.