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According to the British magazine, NGC, Capcom are working on a remake of the original Resident Evil for the Nintendo DS (http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/nid/1032/). This won’t be the same remake that appeared on the GameCube, this time it will use the camera perspective and control system from Resident Evil 4 ,which will probably lead to a more action orientated game, rather than the mood driven original.
Draft
07-04-2005, 10:31 AM
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I'd buy a DS for this.
Why are they remaking the original RE again?
They should remake RE2.
the_ham_dog
07-04-2005, 10:46 AM
Good f*&%king lord!!! Capcom, stop making g*dd%mn remakes!!! GAH!!! No one wants to play this old s#!tty game again!!! STOP!!!!
EvilBob46
07-04-2005, 11:37 AM
Good f*&%king lord!!! Capcom, stop making g*dd%mn remakes!!! GAH!!! No one wants to play this old s#!tty game again!!! STOP!!!!
Did you read the post? If it's going to have RE4's control sheme and camera system...
You see:
Any RE game MINUS the shitty controls the franchise is kown for = pretty solid game, or in the case of RE4, pure ownage
Kamalot
07-04-2005, 11:45 AM
I would be all over a Resident Evil game if it played like RE4!
Anyone who complains about this must be a PS2 user who hasn't tried RE4 on the GameCube yet.
Royal Fool
07-04-2005, 12:25 PM
Ugh, this sounds like a terribly made-up rumor. Remember the Game Boy Color port that never made it?
Just a fanboy's wet dream is my guess.
Why is it that developers insist on making 3D games for the DS? The DS sucks at 3D. They should stick to making really pretty 2D games on the DS.
sickfallout
07-04-2005, 12:40 PM
No horrible player-based 3rd person camera controls? Resident Evil 4 style control scheme? SOLD!
PotatoNinja
07-04-2005, 12:40 PM
I'd do a 2D overhead Resident Evil. That would work.
If its half as good as RE4, its still a must-own. Hopefully it runs well, 3D games on the DS haven't been too impressive as of yet (aside from Mario 64, so at least we know they can be done...)
LilAbner
07-04-2005, 01:26 PM
What's really scary is not the zombies in the game, but the sheer amount of game-starved DS owners out there who would snatch this up.
mister_slim
07-04-2005, 01:46 PM
I wouldn't mind a good RE on the DS, but I'm not frothing with demand for it. Is the pacing and atmosphere going to translate well? After playing Goldeneye: RA on the DS (a rental, thank god) I wonder how many developers understand basic usability and interface design. Some of the other DS games have some problems, but RA is a disaster. Considering that EA is known for polish and usability testing, I think we may see a return of the early 3D control problems. I'll have to pick up Splinter Cell and see how that turned out.
What's really scary is not the zombies in the game, but the sheer amount of game-starved DS owners out there who would snatch this up.
Hey, at least I'm not waiting for good PSP games to make it to the announcement stage.
If this turns out anywhere in the realm of "good," I would absolutely pick up a DS to play it. I've been edging closer and closer to finally putting down my money on one and this would be the game that breaks my wallet. I own version of all these games on the PS1, N64, GC, GBA..... /sigh.
Addicted to zombies.
bone_matrix
07-04-2005, 07:47 PM
At first I was upset, thinking I already bought this for the GCN, then I read a bit more, and found out they want to use RE4 controls. Me= fat kid. RE on DS w/ RE4 controls= cupcake. I'd be all over it.
TrackZero
07-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Good f*&%king lord!!! Capcom, stop making g*dd%mn remakes!!! GAH!!! No one wants to play this old s#!tty game again!!! STOP!!!!
Whoa whoa there, hold the phone. If this uses Resident Evil 4's gameplay with the original Resident Evil game, I'm going to be a pig in shit here.
MUST
HAVE
TITLE.
Anastazius
07-05-2005, 01:02 AM
Well, if this is true and not a rumour (and I don't really see why it would be), then I can't wait to get my hands on a DS again and get the game. Got Resident Evil 4 yesterday and it's sooo awesome. Thinking of getting a DS soon to try out Splinter Cell DS anyways...
Ugh, this sounds like a terribly made-up rumor. Remember the Game Boy Color port that never made it?
Hate to tell you, but that actually was released (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/data/536103.html). Even better, it was released almost exactly one year after the GBA. Great time for a new GBC game.
alienchild
07-05-2005, 02:51 AM
Actually Rone, a Resident Evil remake (of the first game) was being worked on before RE: Gaiden. There are some screenshots out there but I'm too lazy to look any up. It was scrapped, and Gaiden was made instead.
Anastazius
07-05-2005, 06:14 AM
I've managed to find a bit of info on the scapped Game Boy 'Resident Evil', details here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil#Resident_Evil_0_2
Interesting stuff!
Anastazius
07-05-2005, 06:22 AM
Here's a link to a preview of the Game Boy 'Resident Evil' remake with a screenshot too:
http://terror.snm-hgkz.ch/mirrors/www.thegia.com/mirror/gb/re/re.html
KamaItachi
07-05-2005, 06:43 AM
This is great, if true, but I'd still rather see an original RE game than a remodel. If you're going to remake a title, as mentioned before, why not do RE2 I played that game to death, and will probably never play it again but what better way to breathe life back into it than running it through the RE4-amatron?
Why is it that developers insist on making 3D games for the DS? The DS sucks at 3D. They should stick to making really pretty 2D games on the DS.
Can you explain to me how the DS "sucks" at 3D?
Can you explain to me how the DS "sucks" at 3D?
The graphics are barely N64 quality (but without the N64's filtering techniques, from what I've seen). The polygon counts are low, the textures are low resolution, etc. It's horrible. It's like living in 1997 again.
Can you explain to me how you could possibly think that it's "good" at 3D?
mister_slim
07-05-2005, 09:57 AM
The graphics are barely N64 quality (but without the N64's filtering techniques, from what I've seen). The polygon counts are low, the textures are low resolution, etc. It's horrible. It's like living in 1997 again.
Can you explain to me how you could possibly think that it's "good" at 3D?
It's not that it's good at 3D, but it doesn't have a problem with it. It's not a powerful piece of hardware, nor does it have a nice screen, but if developers use the hardware properly it can do nice work. Just don't compare it to a console hooked up to a TV.
The graphics are barely N64 quality (but without the N64's filtering techniques, from what I've seen). The polygon counts are low, the textures are low resolution, etc. It's horrible. It's like living in 1997 again.
Can you explain to me how you could possibly think that it's "good" at 3D?
Actually, the stuff I've seen has higher polygon counts than N64. A good example is Mario 64 (since it's an improved port), Mario is far more detailed than in the 64 version.
Games like Ridge Racer move at an impressive speed (I don't know the FPS off-hand) and still look good for the size of the screen.
Metroid (the demo) looks amazing, both in polygons and textures, and runs fine as well.
So yes, for its size and the fact that its a handheld, I think it does 3d "good", which I admit is an opinion. I just don't think you've presented any facts that it does 3D "bad" and that developers for the DS should avoid it.
Actually, the stuff I've seen has higher polygon counts than N64. A good example is Mario 64 (since it's an improved port), Mario is far more detailed than in the 64 version.
Games like Ridge Racer move at an impressive speed (I don't know the FPS off-hand) and still look good for the size of the screen.
Metroid (the demo) looks amazing, both in polygons and textures, and runs fine as well.
So yes, for its size and the fact that its a handheld, I think it does 3d "good", which I admit is an opinion. I just don't think you've presented any facts that it does 3D "bad" and that developers for the DS should avoid it.
Are you honestly insane? Do you honestly think that the grainy mess that is the Nintendo DS's 3D graphics looks GOOD? How do you expect me to present an argument? There's no argument to present: the 3D on Nintendo DS looks flat out bad. The graphics have 0 anti-aliasing or texture filtering. Plus, the models are low poly count, and the textures are low resolution.
http://gbamedia.gamespy.com/gba/image/article/571/571557/ridge-racer-ds-20041207041739854.jpg
How can you possibly tell me that screenshot looks good? You can't, no matter how many FPS it runs at, it looks terrible. I was hoping I wouldn't have to see piss poor graphics like this anymore. But the Nintendo DS lets us relive the days of PS1 graphics.
While it might be seem impressive for a portable system, there are other portable systems that can do 3D much better than the DS.
Yes, I must be honestly insane then, at the size that those graphics are presented (not the size you blew them up to) the graphics are fine. I play Ridge Racer all the time and don't have a problem with the graphics.
Yes, I must be honestly insane then, at the size that those graphics are presented (not the size you blew them up to) the graphics are fine. I play Ridge Racer all the time and don't have a problem with the graphics.
I'd hate to drag the PSP into this, but if you thnk that looks good, you obviously haven't played the PSP Rdige Racer game.
Kamalot
07-05-2005, 01:29 PM
There is something about the DS screen itself that presents the graphics much better than screen shots or videos. I don't know how it does it, but the games ALWAYS look MUCH better in person.
I remember crapping all over Metroid Prime screen shots. In person, it is freakin awesome. Had to eat my hat that day.
31 Flavas
07-05-2005, 02:08 PM
Yes, I must be honestly insane then, at the size that those graphics are presented (not the size you blew them up to) the graphics are fine. I play Ridge Racer all the time and don't have a problem with the graphics.Yea, or for that matter look at Nanostray. Looking great to me.
I'd hate to drag the PSP into this, but if you thnk that looks good, you obviously haven't played the PSP Rdige Racer game.
Actually, I did play that and can admit it has better graphics, albeit on a larger screen. Can you say you've spent any time with Ridge Racer DS? It's one of my favorite diversions lately and the graphics have never been a problem for me.
Your statement that they should just stop making 3D games on the DS is still as ridiculous as when you first said it.
Actually, I did play that and can admit it has better graphics, albeit on a larger screen. Can you say you've spent any time with Ridge Racer DS? It's one of my favorite diversions lately and the graphics have never been a problem for me.
Your statement that they should just stop making 3D games on the DS is still as ridiculous as when you first said it.
Honestly, I haven't spent any time with Ridge Racer DS. I heard it wasn't very good, so I avoided it like the plague. I have spent some time with Metroid Prime Hunters and Mario 64 on DS.
I thought the screen shots of MP looked pretty good, but the game looks terrible in motion. The game runs at a decent clip, but the graphics remind me of a PSOne FPS.
Mario DS looks like Mario 64...except without bilinear filtering. Mario 64 was impressive in 1996, but it's not impressive anymore.
I don't understand why developers insist on developing games in 3D, no matter how primitive the hardware. Hell, even N-gage has 3D games. The DS can produce some spectacular looking 2D games. I wish they would stick to making those, instead of blocky and messy 3D games. Leave the 3D games to more powerful hardware, that can actually make the 3D look good.
And, on top of all that, the Nintendo DS' backlit screen tends to make games look washed out. I never noticed how bad this problem was until I started playing GameBoy emulators on my PSP. What was once dark grey on the DS screen is now actually black on the PSP screen.
Anastazius
07-06-2005, 12:42 AM
I don't get the pre-occupation with perfect highend graphics - surely if they at least do the job the important thing that matters is the gameplay? I was peasantly suprised at the quality of the graphics of 'Metroid Prime - Hunters' and 'Mario 64 DS'. To be honest I was kinda amazed that a handheld could make graphics that good; yeah I know "PSP graphix R0x0rZ" and all that, but whatever. It don't have 2 funky screens with touch-screeny-ness & a mic. Or classic Nintendo fun games like 'Yoshi Touch & Go' and 'Warioware Touched'. Since I've got used to the DS's graphics, I've grown to like their kinda retro quality myself..
Exactly, the PSP may look better but it hardly makes the DS horrible. Since the PSP is really somewhere in between PS1 and PS2 in power, I don't see a problem with the DS resembling PS1 graphics. It's a handheld, after all. In fact, the PSP looks beautiful but I can't stand the LCD ghosting that occurs in any fast-moving game (Ridge Racers and Twisted Metal made this obvious to me).
I played Mario 64 to death, and the graphics, to me, looked beautiful. They skipped bilinear filtering but actually gained higher-res textures and higher polygon counts than the original. More importantly, it PLAYED well, and the analog touchscreen control came to me as naturally as it did when Nintendo first introduced the analog stick.
Metroid looks ugly in motion? I completely disagree, I feel like I'm playing a smaller version of Metroid Prime. Although I don't play that demo as much now, I'll definitely be playing the full game.
Either you people are my blind, or I'm the only one with any standards...
Anastazius
07-06-2005, 04:13 PM
Or maybe you just rely too much on advanced shiny graphics to make your gaming experience enjoyable.
Or maybe you just rely too much on advanced shiny graphics to make your gaming experience enjoyable.
Or maybe I don't like it when the games I play look like dog shit?
Kamalot
07-06-2005, 09:39 PM
Either you people are my blind, or I'm the only one with any standards...
There are many who would say that your standards are misplaced if they value graphics over gameplay.
There are many who would say that your standards are misplaced if they value graphics over gameplay.
I've never said anything about graphics over gameplay. Why do just automatically assume that?
Even then, graphics are an extrememly important part of a game. After all, it's what you're looking at. Graphics have one of the biggest effects on gameplay.
Besides which, I don't value graphics over gameplay. Let me just say this: on average, I would rather play a really good looking 2D game, than an ugly 3D game. The DS is capable of making really nice looking 2D games, but developers insist on making lots of ugly 3D games. Why? Who knows.
Perhaps one day a 3D DS game will come out that isn't ugly. But it hasn't happened yet. Even so, that hasn't stopped me from playing them. I really enjoyed the Metroid Prime demo, and I hope the full game is good (even though it's ugly). Also, I tried playing Mario DS. But it wasn't the graphics that kept me from playing far into it. It was the fact that the controls are completely jacked up.
Anastazius
07-07-2005, 02:54 AM
Then it seems to be a case of what you think is ugly is not what a lot of other DS users think is ugly. Surely we can just agree to disagree?
Then it seems to be a case of what you think is ugly is not what a lot of other DS users think is ugly. Surely we can just agree to disagree?
Nope.
.............
Kamalot
07-07-2005, 12:15 PM
I thought beauty was in the eye of the beholder, not in the eye of Groo.
I thought beauty was in the eye of the beholder, not in the eye of Groo.
Your mother.
Kamalot
07-07-2005, 03:54 PM
Now that is some serious wit, ladies and gentlemen.
Now that is some serious wit, ladies and gentlemen.
Your mother too.
Anastazius
07-07-2005, 11:24 PM
What about their mothers?
Here is the thing. I would much rather have pretty 2D graphics, than ugly 3D graphics. And, from what I've seen, the DS is incapable of producing what I would consider "pretty" 3D graphics.
I would rather have a Castlevania sequel on NDS that looks like this:
http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/ds/castlevania-ds/castlevania-ds-2.jpg
Than this:
http://consolemedia.gameworldnetwork.com/games/nintendo64/4756/3.jpg
I would rather play a Metroid that looks like this:
http://www.pgnx.net/media/nintendo_metroidzm3.jpg
Than this:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/135/920760_20050516_screen003.jpg
Of course, gameplay the most important factor. But graphics are a very important part of gameplay, and the game experience. In general, I would rather play really nice looking 2D games, than really primitive looking 3D games.
Anastazius
07-11-2005, 01:31 AM
Well, for one thing, 'Castlevania DS' is going to be a 2D game - you'll use the touch screen to cast spells and things, and so far from the previews I've read it's shaping up to be pretty good.
And personally when I see 'Metroid Prime: Hunters' running on the DS, I have no problem with the graphics. I'm too busy thinking "wow, I need to be concentrating on staying alive here" because I'm engrossed in the gameplay.
:)
Well, for one thing, 'Castlevania DS' is going to be a 2D game - you'll use the touch screen to cast spells and things, and so far from the previews I've read it's shaping up to be pretty good.
No shit, sherlock. That's why I posted a screenshot of it. Because it's what I want to see on DS, and I was comparing it to what a 3D Castlevania would look like on DS.
And personally when I see 'Metroid Prime: Hunters' running on the DS, I have no problem with the graphics. I'm too busy thinking "wow, I need to be concentrating on staying alive here" because I'm engrossed in the gameplay.
I'm not saying the gameplay in MP:Hunters is bad. On the contrary, I've enjoyed the demo (especially when linked up). But the graphics look like a PSOne game. Personally, I would much rather have another really nice looking 2D Metroid game on DS.
mister_slim
07-11-2005, 10:13 AM
Splinter Cell DS looks quite nice actually, as long as you don't look at Sam's feet. Good animation, some nice textures. The visual limitations are as much the screen and developer as they are the DS.
MasterChief55
07-11-2005, 10:48 AM
Another RE reamake, i played the RE1 gamecube remake....Sucked! Mabe this will be better, if it works like RE4 ill try it.
Splinter Cell DS looks quite nice actually, as long as you don't look at Sam's feet. Good animation, some nice textures. The visual limitations are as much the screen and developer as they are the DS.
...not to mention that Splinter Cell runs at about 15fps. It looks OK at best in still pictures.
VsSelf
07-11-2005, 05:47 PM
Portable horror games are just flawed in concept. It's impossible to be scared of zombies when you're sitting on a bus in broad daylight listening to teenagers blather on cellphones. You really need some level of sensory deprivation for immersion -- in which case, just play it on your Gamecube.
Another RE reamake, i played the RE1 gamecube remake....Sucked! Mabe this will be better, if it works like RE4 ill try it.
Interesting, because the remakes are what got me back into the series to begin with. Arguably, the first remake was one of the best looking games for the Cube at the time and it captured the atmosphere of the series - the mansion, the Hunters, all of it - perfectly. I might even venture to say better than the original did itself. Not knocking the PS1 RE in any way shape or form (it's in my top five games), just saying that for the remake to have me genuinely nervous playing a game I've already beaten a good twenty times over, that's no small feat.
Anastazius
07-12-2005, 06:41 AM
Yeah I've never had a Playstation so I'd never played any Resident Evil games apart from the demos on my PC. So when I got a Gamecube and bought REmake I was hooked - I love Resi 4 and I'm thinking of getting Resi 2 & 3 soon too.
TLEG.net - because you're worth it (http://www.tleg.net)
TrackZero
07-12-2005, 06:56 AM
Yeah I've never had a Playstation so I'd never played any Resident Evil games apart from the demos on my PC. So when I got a Gamecube and bought REmake I was hooked - I love Resi 4 and I'm thinking of getting Resi 2 & 3 soon too.
TLEG.net - because you're worth it (http://www.tleg.net)
As far as I know Resident Evil 0 and 1 had the best remakes on the GameCube, not 2 and 3. Just an FYI.
Anastazius
07-12-2005, 06:58 AM
Cheers - I'll probably get that instead.
Damphire
02-02-2006, 02:29 PM
Alright, so i'm a newb to this forum and all this, but I was checking for info on the DS port of RE...I'm a huge fan of the RE series, except the movie takes..(they were horrible) and the Outbreak/Dead Aim era.....No i can guarentee the GFX are gonna match the psp capability, but see where psp and DS differ are that are visually obvious are this...
PSP: 1 single screen, and Playstation 2 stuff only in a portable size...too many reshells of old games or other games, no real enginuity just packing a Standard console into portable version...I'm not trying to bash the psp because if it weren't so expensive i'd own one, because some of the games on there i'd like to play portable like Twisted metal.
DS: 2 screens, top is standard, bottom is a touch screen, which can be utilized for a myrad of things IE: picking fruit, unrolling TP from the roll (yeah you ppl who know what i'm talking about like it too) Petting your sim pet dog, casting binding spells by drawing the symbol on the screen. Nintendo has been rehashing some old titles IE wario ware, Castlevania, Mario...BUT they all have something a bit new to add to the table.....No the main focus isn't essentially on the graphics of the games but they are pretty decent 3d or 2d....if your that worried about sparkling graphics, trade in your old systems, but an xbox 360, and play that shit.
It's not fully about GFX with consoles anymore because there will be a point where Graphix can't be upgraded anymore without making it to be real life stuff, in which that would probably be the end of GFX modding, now it's getting to the point of inventing the new ways to entertain people, which is like this new remake of RE, They have the capability to redo the game and add to the ORIGINAL stuff they couldn't when they first made it. I'm uber excited about this port not only for the extra content, but i mean i can fully take my zombie bashing on the road with me. It's not even about scare factor anymore, it's more about pumping lead into zombies and bio weapons. I'm hoping they rehash all the old PS1 RE games, and maybe with each release the GFX get a tad better, and who knows when i get my copy the GFX might be supurb enough for me to post again and try to get some actuall SS's of it being played on MY DS for everyone to see.....Groo needs to buy a 360 and stop trying to force GFX down my throat, and for the rest of people who are whinning about it...simple...DON'T BUY THE GAME....
Kamalot
02-03-2006, 11:12 AM
Groo is over the top, agreed. The DS does 3D just fine. I am playing Viewtiful Joe, Mario Kart and Nanostray, all of which look fabulous in 3D on the DS.
Damphire
02-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Woo getting my copy today techniclly (it's 12:42pm) and yeah lets hope it's great!
Damphire
02-08-2006, 03:42 PM
wooooo hoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Notice the excitement?! I GOT IT -starts dancing around like a mad man- I've barely touched it, yet i've already gotten a taste of the added nintendo goodness....10 minutes into the game and your staring zombies in the face with your knife and you have to tab, slash, gouge (not puncturing mind you) the screen to take these undead advasaries on.....not only that the map is displayed topside on the DS, which is SOOOO much nicer that i won't get as lost or having to take the time to bring up a menu or anything, it's just right there at all times.....not only that the knife doesn't take up space like it used to, it's handled just like it is with RE 4, hold the left trigger and you pull it out....graphiclly it's pretty much the original gfx which isn't bad but isn't superb either, but hey i love it. i'll fill you all in with more when i get there time to get back to playing hardcore non stop on this bad mutha F'er
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