Battlefield 2 Ships: Who will buy?

[Klade]

Alright people Battlefield 2 just shipped to retail (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=57898). Theres been lots of talk about how Electronic Arts is evil and or they are just another company. So here's a poll to see who thinks what about the game, Electronic Arts, and whether they will buy it.

FYI, you can vote only once and your choice will be made public.

[ps_ineedthis]

Yes I will...

[if76]

I just think it's ridiculous that all these reviewers reviewed the game before it shipped. I think any score would be inflated when you're playing online with only serious people in the industry. Things like a lousy commander interface dont' seem so bad when you're not playing with TKing assholes and 12 year olds who just want to fly aroudn and crash planes.

[Meusli]

I have to buy this game just don't know how I'm gonna pay for it yet :(

[Metal Jesus]

I chose NO only because it's not out on the PSP yet. Then I full intend to buy it. :P

[Goronmon]

Mine shipped from EBGames yesterday :D

[Klade]

ugh I guess I took too long making the poll options and someone approved it without mine.. They were supposed to look like this:

Yes I’ll buy it, I’m indifferent to Electronic Arts on this title.

Yes I’ll buy it, but I really hate Electronic Arts.

I’ll buy it, but I’ll only buy it used.

No I won’t buy it, I just didn’t think it was worth the money.

No I won’t buy it, I won’t support Electronic Arts.

[Skookum]

Only problem I have with the game is how Dice canned Trauma studios a little while ago. That just seemed cold to me, after they'd put so much work into this game.

/Edit

Yes I'll buy it, but I really hate Electronic Arts.

[happycat]

Not buying, if you own 1 battlefield game you own them all, which is why I got bored of the demo so quickly. Sure it had its moments, and those good moments only occurred when you had a good team that moved together and listened to the commander, which happens very rarely, and will become even more rare judging how there are less and less people joining squads now.

Edit: My purchase isn't influenced by my opinion of EA, sure they're not very popular, and I admit I own quite a few of their games, but they have a bad habit of releasing sequels to games that are nothing but the original game with some very minor features added. (Try to count the number of Sims expansion packs on one hand, you can't, see what I mean?)

[Commissar Rob]

Rats, there's not an option for "No, my PC sucks and won't run anything newer than Starcraft."

[ÜberJumper]

happycat:

My squads are getting bigger. Most of the times I'm playing the demo, there's a full squad, plus a 2/3 full squad of us.

[XxSATANxX]

SpX r 2 high 4 me!

[H.M._Murdock]

I might get it when it's less than $20.

[StoneGut]

I'll be getting it... not sure when. Might be tomorrow or sometime next week.
The problem is when I get the game I'll defentially be wanting a video card up-grade (ATI X8550 - $549.99), which will snowball into a mobo and processor upgrade... ouch.

[EL CABONG]

I might get it someday for xbox or for 360 my pc is ok for gameing but not great

[Phades]

I'll be picking it up today. I don't really care about EA. They're just a business like any other.

[Sazime]

I'll be using All Seeing Eye IF I do buy it. But right now, I have a summer English class to finish. I'll stick with CoH till then.

[Xaerin]

No thanks, give me Team Fortress 2!

[Justin_McElroy]

here here Mr_Grimshaw, I'm in the same technologically unsound boat.

[BloodAngel]

I'm buying, Having a blast playing, I dropped into a server last night that had a bunch of guys from Ft Hood Texas playing, before that it was a bunch of guys from the UK.

Its awesome how Fragging can bring the world together. :D

[screwtape]

I've had nothing but fun with this game, both with bots and real players. I'm picking it up as soon as I can.

[joruussuun]

Hey, anyone know if you have to install Gamespy Arcade in order to run the demo? I'd prefer not to... I chose no, and when I click on "Singleplayer" or "Multiplayer", it just returns me to my desktop. I haven't had time to fiddle around with it, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't sorta trying to switch over to Gamespy Arcade or something to connect to servers ('cause it has it's own built in browser, right?)

[Phades]

Hey, anyone know if you have to install Gamespy Arcade in order to run the demo? I'd prefer not to... I chose no, and when I click on "Singleplayer" or "Multiplayer", it just returns me to my desktop. I haven't had time to fiddle around with it, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't sorta trying to switch over to Gamespy Arcade or something to connect to servers ('cause it has it's own built in browser, right?)

No, you don't have to. I didnt and I've had no problems.

[normyk]

Tried the demo, liked it but it isn't something I want to play long-term and I already have too many other games waiting for my attention. So no, I will not be buying.

[joruussuun]

No, you don't have to. I didnt and I've had no problems.

OK... Thanks.
I guess I'll have to sit down and fiddle around with it.

[Deadend]

I said no... but I may eventully be coerecred into buying it when my Xfire list is filled up with friends and EA patches it so that it supports command-line joining for Xfire, and my friends have a server going for it...

I think I can wait for the patch that makes the frontend decent.

[Dirty Harry]

Nope. Nevar. Nevarnooven. Blathergoogenragenzine.

[Borys]

Yeah, I'm all over it.

But then I'm not as cynical and jaded as the majority here

[Bone]

I'm all over it too, you might say I'm addicted already.

Anyone who wants to lower the rating based on the players they've encountered is missing the point. There are ALWAYS servers out there with good players, and with admins on hand. You just have to make the effort to find them.

You wouldn't give a movie a lower rating just because there were idiots in the theater, would you?

[Shifteh]

"But then I'm not as cynical and jaded as the majority here"

How is understanding, and mentioning, massive flaws "jaded." When 'x' doesnt work, pointing that out isn't a cynical comment.

I won't be buying it; the demo plays far too much like Desert Combat to warrant I shell out $60+ for it. I might get it if it drops heavily in price.

And yeah, I'm not a big fan of EA - but I'm getting into the industry so it's kind of a given. My reasoning, however, may be different. I dislike the way EA treats gamers, not their employees (as in the industry, they are treated terrible by all companies). As soon as I saw them blacklisting servers that removed the time limit (?!?) I decided not to buy it.

[Borys]

And yeah, I'm not a big fan of EA - but I'm getting into the industry so it's kind of a given. My reasoning, however, may be different. I dislike the way EA treats gamers, not their employees (as in the industry, they are treated terrible by all companies). As soon as I saw them blacklisting servers that removed the time limit (?!?) I decided not to buy it.

This is where we differ.

I couldn't give a shit about EA blacklisting servers, setting a time limit in the demo, the whole GameSpot exclusivity thing and even treating their employees.

I know this demo was pure FUN, most FUN I had playing demo since Painkiller and Quake 3 before that.

What sells me a game?

The amount of fps I get while playing?
The amount of minutes I have to spend in menu before starting a game?
Loading times?

NO.

FUN sells me a game, and BF2 is FUN.

YMMV

[Hijinx]

Goddamn retards are not going to get a game because its published by the Big Evil EA!? I have a long-standing hatred of EA, but if its a game that hits me in the right spot well....I play games that a fun.

If your having fun playing BF2, then who gives a rats ass who publishes it? :confused:

Dice hasn't let me down so far. ala BF42/Codename Eagle

[Kefkataran]

I'm not picking it up, but not because I'm all jaded and cynical or whatever. Mostly just because I didn't enjoy the first Battlefield and see no reason why I'd enjoy this. It's got enough elements of focused realism to not appeal to me. Oh well, I also don't like buying EA games.

[pur3r4ge]

Goddamn retards are not going to get a game because its published by the Big Evil EA!? I have a long-standing hatred of EA, but if its a game that hits me in the right spot well....I play games that a fun.

If your having fun playing BF2, then who gives a rats ass who publishes it? :confused:

Dice hasn't let me down so far. ala BF42/Codename Eagle

Believing in something and voting the only way a consumer can (by not giving money to those who you hate) does not make someone a retard. Giving up something that you want for the sake of something you believe in can be worthwhile. A consumer and gamer might object to the Trauma fiasco and EA's abusive business practices enough to "suffer" without a game they may otherwise like.

That being said, I'm still torn. BF2 has been a lot of fun in the demo, but I feel guilty by giving money to EA when there are other developers I'd feel much better about supporting. There are also tons of other games on my list, and it's not like avoiding BF2 is some great sacrifice on my part.

My choice is not on the poll: it's currently undecided.

[mulligan]

i'll download the demo and make up my mind, however, i think this game migth be one of those games that i only play on LAN's, since i have NO patience for l33t 14 year olds, and no.. you can't ban them all.

but is EvAV going to set up a password protected server for this game? i think 98% of the jaded readers on this site are serious gamers, and we could have some serious fun (as long as i can headshot Furios Wang :p )

[Edlud]

Hell yes. It's preordered. The demo has been great. If you liked BF1942 then you'll like this.

Also remember the DICE guys. Even if they are EA now, it's them that will be punished. They have made some excellent games and should be rewarded.

Let's hope they rape EA and start a new studio!

[snubber]

<cue bongos and upright bass>

Want to play... Badly.
Computer sucks... Immensely.
I cry... Frequently.

[Bone]

and no.. you can't ban them all.

Yes, yes you can. At least on our server, we don't tolerate idiots. Eventually people begin to gravitate towards servers where they know they can find mature players. Our DC server eventually got to the point where it was always filled with regulars and there was little need to kick or ban anyone.

[Nesta]

Um, yeah. hell yesh, yippers, and you betcha! I'm not the biggest fan of EA, but they are just a publisher, not those making the game. I will support DICE because this is a fun as hell game. So much fun, I put down GTA since the demo came out last week. I've been playing it non-stop except for this weekend when I went camping. Sad thing was when I was hiking, I kept have images of a Blackhawk coming over the ridge. MUST PLAY MORE BF2!!!

[bKangy]

I might buy it, but... only if someone can recommend me good server finding software? I'm not putting up with the shitty browser BF2 has (crashes often, blacklists servers that let me play the game I shelled out for) but I also enjoyed the demo a lot. Any recommendations?

[Praetor-Vong]

Yes I’ll buy it, but I really hate Electronic Arts.



That is my vote.

[StrifeSnake13*]

Yes I’ll buy it, but I really hate Electronic Arts.

thats my vote, I'm picking it up today from gamestop.

[Nesta]

I might buy it, but... only if someone can recommend me good server finding software? I'm not putting up with the shitty browser BF2 has (crashes often, blacklists servers that let me play the game I shelled out for) but I also enjoyed the demo a lot. Any recommendations?

Xfire or All Seeing Eye, though I've heard the ESE is going downhill since Yahoo bought it out.

Xfire is pretty dope, though.

[51|RandoM]

This game justifies my pc upgrade addiction. On top of that, it is a ton of fun, of course I'm buying it. Matter of fact, I just got back from a couple places, checking to see if anybody had it in yet(I'm in nyc, can walk a few blocks and hit 4 places that sell pc games). Nobody had it yet.

I did pick up a Saitek X45 combo, which I'm about to configure now and start practicing with the choppers on an empty server. I'm tired of always getting boned by the attack copters, now I'm going to have my revenge.

[Vermillion]

I voted no, then rethought my vote, but I'm under fear that EvilAvatar's statement "that my name will be made public" is part of some EULA that I might violate if I do. I'm in such a perdicament.

Oh wait, I just outted myself. Screw it, I'll buy it and screw up your dorky slanted poll. 1 R l33t h4x0r!!!1111!!!!!1! Not that I'll have time to play it because Guild Wars is better than WoW!

[Skookum]

I did pick up a Saitek X45 combo, which I'm about to configure now and start practicing with the choppers on an empty server. I'm tired of always getting boned by the attack copters, now I'm going to have my revenge.

I picked up a Logitech FF stick a week ago. But after spending some time using the mouse and keyboard to fly, I'm not so sure it's any better with a joystick. I'd try both if I were you. Most of my clanmates who kick my butt in choppers fly with M+K.

[gravey]

I couldn't give a shit about EA blacklisting servers, setting a time limit in the demo, the whole GameSpot exclusivity thing and even treating their employees.
...

FUN sells me a game, and BF2 is FUN.
It wasn't that long ago that the boards here were on fire with calls to boycott EA in light of their monopolistic practices and poor employee treatment. From ea_spouse to the NFL deal, ads in games to medicore quality, people were getting very vocal about not letting EA just walk over whomever it wanted, and many said they would show that company so with their dollars. Now BF2 marks the players' first big chance to throw their weight around, and what happens? So far in this thread, four pages of replies, affirming one BF2 purchase after another. What happened to the responsibility--or at least the vitriol?

Have those who advocated a boycott just not posted in this thread yet? Or is consumer action too much to expect from a demographic that is, by and large, not that politically motivated? I'm not suggesting those in particular who have replied here are lazy, or easily dissauded from a hard choice, but something is up.

Chances are, it's largely ignorance. As much as we read about the video game industry everyday, it seems to be largely self-serving: who's doing what for me and when is it coming out. I don't want to point too many fingers, but Borys, you'll notice I quoted you above. The rest of this thread hasn't shocked me, if it at least surprised, but what you wrote went beyond insensitivity. I can understand just ignoring, or not realizing, that which doesn't affect you, and so buy it (the classic example involving Nike and sweatshops), but to blatantly acknowledge it the way you did and dismiss it as less important than your own personal enjoyment is disgusting. Lack of consumer action due to laziness is, if not justifiable, at least comprehensible. Your self-serving attitude reflects extremely poorly on a subculture with an already bad reputation.

Anyway, excellent idea, Klade.

[Kefkataran]

It wasn't that long ago that the boards here were on fire with calls to boycott EA in light of their monopolistic practices and poor employee treatment. From ea_spouse to the NFL deal, ads in games to medicore quality, people were getting very vocal about not letting EA just walk over whomever it wanted, and many said they would show that company so with their dollars. Now BF2 marks the players' first big chance to throw their weight around, and what happens? So far in this thread, four pages of replies, affirming one BF2 purchase after another. What happened to the responsibility--or at least the vitriol?

Have those who advocated a boycott just not posted in this thread yet? Or is consumer action too much to expect from a demographic that is, by and large, not that politically motivated? I'm not suggesting those in particular who have replied here are lazy, or easily dissauded from a hard choice, but something is up.

Chances are, it's largely ignorance. As much as we read about the video game industry everyday, it seems to be largely self-serving: who's doing what for me and when is it coming out. I don't want to point too many fingers, but Borys, you'll notice I quoted you above. The rest of this thread hasn't shocked me, if it at least surprised, but what you wrote went beyond insensitivity. I can understand just ignoring, or not realizing, that which doesn't affect you, and so buy it (the classic example involving Nike and sweatshops), but to blatantly acknowledge it the way you did and dismiss it as less important than your own personal enjoyment is disgusting. Lack of consumer action due to laziness is, if not justifiable, at least comprehensible. Your self-serving attitude reflects extremely poorly on a subculture with an already bad reputation.

I wasn't around here at the time, but I heard all about the calls for boycotts and such and I basically bought in. I'm not that vocal about it and I'm certainly not going to deride anyone for purchasing EA games, but personally it's just a choice I'm not making. (Which is basically my stance on drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and religion as well).

[ÜberJumper]

K, here's the thing, there's going to be a smart programmer out there that figures out how to get a direct connect game going via a little utility.

There was a fellow who put together a script for Homeworld 2 that basically used the mouse to make it work regardless that HW2 didn't have a command line interface.

[Nintendo Revolution]

Buying it for a friend, pirated it for myself a week ago.

[Taco]

EA sucks and this game feels like a clone of the first to me. Which I am way beyond burnt out on.

[Thunderbrand]

I'm not gonna pick this one up. Played the demo, turned the graphics from low to MEDIUM, game didn't work. The gameplay is okay, but it didnt seem interesting.

[Borys]

...snip...

Maybe it's my ignorance but I never called on this whole "boycott EA". I know they destroyed Bullfrog, Origin, Westwood, some of my favourite games (Ultima, Lands of Lore, C&C) and franchises but well, what can I do?

It's all business, that's the way it works.

And not buying BF2 because it's from EA is not only dumb but ignorant as well.

DICE made it, DICE code it, DICE made textures, sounds, physics and the whole package not EA.
Give credit where credit's due.

[Freakshow Billy]

I am all over this game... my preorder just arrived, now I will go install it.

[Borys]

Buying it for a friend, pirated it for myself a week ago.

Yeah right.
Banned?

[Steve_Erhardt]

It wasn't that long ago that the boards here were on fire with calls to boycott EA in light of their monopolistic practices and poor employee treatment. From ea_spouse to the NFL deal, ads in games to medicore quality, people were getting very vocal about not letting EA just walk over whomever it wanted, and many said they would show that company so with their dollars. Now BF2 marks the players' first big chance to throw their weight around, and what happens? So far in this thread, four pages of replies, affirming one BF2 purchase after another. What happened to the responsibility--or at least the vitriol?
Well for whatever it's worth, I said I'd buy EA console games used. Lived up to that 100%. Also said I'd buy EA PC games new if they interested me. Been living up to that as well.

Bottom line? I'd be first in line to deliver a few swift kicks to the nuts of the EA suits who have made the decisions that have earned our ire. And I'll continue to go so far as to not buy any of their console games first-hand. I have no problem buying used. But I don't often cut off my nose to spite my face, and this isn't going to make it as one of the rare exceptions. I'll be snagging BF2 as soon as I pinch enough pennies to do so. I wasn't utterly bowled over by the gameplay, but I enjoyed it enough, and I've mentioned before that my true drive to purchase this has been the Mech Tactical Simulation mod being worked on, and that hasn't changed. =)

[Royal Fool]

Not buying it. I don't support the swallowing of companies and spitting out the employees' remains. And yeah, I know that EA isn't the only friggin' company in this business that has shady tactics - but it's by far the worst one.

*waits for someone to jump into the thread and attack him for having an opinion*

[Vermillion]

Pirating, and then gloating about it, is like bragging that you are retarded. I take that back, cause that wouldn't be fair to the mentally handicapped.

[pur3r4ge]

And not buying BF2 because it's from EA is not only dumb but ignorant as well.

DICE made it, DICE code it, DICE made textures, sounds, physics and the whole package not EA.
Give credit where credit's due.

Calling someone "dumb and ignorant" for avoiding the product of a company they don't want to support. I would think that the education about the product necessary to make such a decision would eliminate "ignorant", and the "dumb"... well, I don't see too many people making informed decisions out of dumbness. So that leaves your statement as name calling, which some would argue is, in fact, both "dumb" and "ignorant".

So DICE, an EA subsidiary, makes a game, for EA to publish. EA gets all the profits, then passes on DICE's share. Your money goes into EA's hands. You said "what can I do"... well, for starters, don't give money to EA, if you don't like them. Seems pretty obvious to me. I'd also say that after the whole Trauma thing, I'm not sure how saintly DICE is either. That was a low thing to do to a team that did so much for your product.

It's fine to disagree on the matter, but calling people who don't agree with you "dumb and ignorant" simply for disagreeing with you, isn't going to change anyone's mind.

[ElectricMonk]

i haven't tried the demo yet so i can't be certian. but i don't see myself paying for a multiplayer-only game. they just take up way too much of my free time.

[Taco]

No kidding. Dice made the game. Great. Wonderful. Here is me giving them credit.

I'm still not giving EA my money.

[pur3r4ge]

one other quick thing: "It's all business, that's the way it works."

Yes. And if a company can't sell products, they go out of business. If their business practices cause more harm then good, they change practices. Look at Nike. They were heavily meligned for sweatshop labor. Enough people did something about it by not buying Nike products that they were forced to change. Now they have one of the best labor practices of any major shoe or clothing manufacturer. Point is: consumers CAN do something about it, but it requires a little bit of effort (or lack, as "not buying something" is a lot less work then "buying something").

[Taco]

You need to get the media involved(cringe) somehow. Not buying it won't do shit but make you feel good.

[Mrbunchypants]

Thinking i'm going to pass on this one. At least untill i cna upgrade. even then.

[Kefkataran]

You need to get the media involved(cringe) somehow. Not buying it won't do shit but make you feel good.

The media already is involved. Most of the games media has jumped onto the "EA is evil" bandwagon plenty. You can see it lots of big online sites, like Evil Avatar, and plenty of print mags as well in news stories and sometimes in previews. Anyways, not buying it still doing more than saying you hate EA and then saying "Oh well" and buying it anyways. At the very least it will take away your $50. That isn't much, but it can add up eventually, and if it doesn't: you still feel good, so fuck it.

[gravey]

Maybe it's my ignorance but I never called on this whole "boycott EA". I know they destroyed Bullfrog, Origin, Westwood, some of my favourite games (Ultima, Lands of Lore, C&C) and franchises but well, what can I do?

It's all business, that's the way it works.

And not buying BF2 because it's from EA is not only dumb but ignorant as well.

DICE made it, DICE code it, DICE made textures, sounds, physics and the whole package not EA.
Give credit where credit's due.

Credit is all well and good, DICE makes great games (RC2 = best rally racer yet), but credit isn't as tangible as revenue--and EA, for publishing the game, sees a lot of that. In fact, the more revenue they see, earned for what they did, the more it will encourage them to perpetuate existing practices. If these practices included "Make exceptionally good games", then we would sing their praises from the loftiest heights. Unfortunately, the reality seems to be "Buy out talent, lower overhead, burn out employees". What you can do is not help them continue that by not adding to their profits. Yes, your $50 is just a drop in the bucket (or out of the bucket, as it were), but it adds up if there is a movement. To suggest otherwise is "not only dumb but ignorant as well".

Of course you are right that EA did not make the game, which makes me think BF2's credits might include a disclaimer to the effect of "No EA employees were harmed in the making of this game", but if a message is to be sent it must be loud and clear. On the other hand, I didn't single you out for not participating in a boycott, but for relegating the treatment of others as not worth your time, and now as beyond your control. It is business, but it could certainly be one that works better for everyone, and responses to effects beyond what game is the most fun, well, might be too much to ask right now.

(Looks like Taco and pur3r4ge beat me to my reply while I was typing...)

[Borys]

...snip 1...

That was a little over the top I agree and apologise.

I really think those guys at DICE deserve every sale BF2 makes. Is there a better way to thank them than buying their game?

Sending an e-mail saying
"Hey guys, great job on BF2 I love this game but I can't buy it because EA is publishing it, so I'll buy it used instead, EA won't get any money that way!
Oh, you will neither... well what can I do?"
won't make it, I think.

If you personally like this game try to support the developer.

...snip 2...

If BF2 won't sell then you can be sure EA will fire DICE team and we won't ever see BF3.
Is this really what you as a gamer (or consumer ) want?

Is that the "lesser evil"?

Sacrificing DICE team just because you dislike its publisher's ways?

[TrackZero]

FYI, you can vote only once and your choice will be made public.

Where is my vote public? How can I see other people's votes?

Either way, meh, Battlefield 2 just simply isn't the game for me, but it's a good game regardless.

[Taco]

The media already is involved. Most of the games media has jumped onto the "EA is evil" bandwagon plenty. You can see it lots of big online sites, like Evil Avatar, and plenty of print mags as well in news stories and sometimes in previews..

I mean non-gaming mainstream media.

[Karmakaze]

First off, Amazon sucks. I preordered and it hasn't even shipped yet. Target delivery is NEXT WEEK.

Also, ASE just lets your browse servers, you can't actually JOIN a BF2 server. Hopefully they can fix this, but it will require EA to let you skip the login screen..

[pur3r4ge]

If BF2 won't sell then you can be sure EA will fire DICE team and we won't ever see BF3.
Is this really what you as a gamer (or consumer ) want?

Is that the "lesser evil"?

Sacrificing DICE team just because you dislike its publisher's ways?

I'd say that's a key point in all this. I don't have the answer to that. I guess the answer comes down to how much an individual objects to EA's business, and if they feel it might be worth sacrificing a good development house.

[Thenetcase]

Yes I'll buy it. But I REALLY FREAKIN' HATE ELECTRONIC FARTS!!

[Thenetcase]

I hope that Electronic Farts dies and burns forever for screwing with the humble, common gamer. F'in f'ers.

[gravey]

If BF2 won't sell then you can be sure EA will fire DICE team and we won't ever see BF3.
Is this really what you as a gamer (or consumer ) want?

Is that the "lesser evil"?

Sacrificing DICE team just because you dislike its publisher's ways?
I hate to give an inch to someone I'm supposed to be opposed to (just kidding... kind of), but you make a good point. That's the hard choice here. It would be an easier argument if the case were, say, Need for Speed (in-house) or Command & Conquer (ex-Westwood), but in this case DICE is alive and kicking, and EA is only publishing. A speculative argument could be made that consistent BF2 or BF3 success might spell DICE's death as they are assimilated into the EA collective, but that's neither here nor there at the moment. So like I said before, if a message is to be sent it must be effective. I see that once again pur3r4ge has beaten me to the Submit button, so I'll stand in agreement with him.

In any case, for myself I don't have a PC. You can force the hard choice on me when Burnout Revenge comes out.

[Drinking_Buddy]

I am going to pick up BF2 once I get my new Alienware system.

I hate EA as much as everybody else, but I never said that I would boycott there games. Mostly because I dont really buy EA games in the first place.

Secondly I feel that boycotting will not matter. It will be there treating there skilled employees like shit, and make crappy games, that will bring them down.

[Orphiuchus]

Nope, I dont want to deal with the shit that I know for a fact EA will throw at users. I may pick it up used at some point, but I'm not giving them any of my money.

[jeffool]

Begrudgingly aside from Spore, I really don't EA has much for me. Sorry Dice, you guys aren't getting my cash.

[pur3r4ge]

Another completely different aside, related to the original question: I never buy multiplayer PC games used. I'm always afraid that the CD key will come up as "already in use", preventing me from playing. I've asked at EBX what their policy is towards this, and unless they've changed it, you won't be refunded or offered an exchange.

[thecrazyd]

Wouldn't purchasing this game be like telling EA that they should publish more really good games? It's giving EA money, but its giving them money for doing something right. I still won't buy their shitty console games.

[Phades]

Wouldn't purchasing this game be like telling EA that they should publish more really good games? It's giving EA money, but its giving them money for doing something right. I still won't buy their shitty console games.

Very interesting point. Kind of ties back into the whole "speak with your wallet" that someone mentioned earlier. Don't buy their crap, but do buy the good games. What better way to encourage them to make good games?

[Beelzebud]

I won't be buying this, or any EA published game.

I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and I don't buy games published by EA.

Is it sending a huge message to either congolmerate? Nope. But I do it for myself.

[Cubfan]

Not buying. I'm not exactly an 'activist', but in this case I think I'll put my money where my piehole is.

[Thin_J]

It's already installed.

[Kagger]

Rats, there's not an option for "No, my PC sucks and won't run anything newer than Starcraft."


Dang right!

but I can play Kotor...just nothing ultra high end

[Royal Fool]

Very interesting point. Kind of ties back into the whole "speak with your wallet" that someone mentioned earlier. Don't buy their crap, but do buy the good games. What better way to encourage them to make good games?

Like any other publisher, EA doesn't see their games as "good games" and "bad games", only "potential sellers". Yes, I suppose that we could team up and only buy their quality games, but that would only encourage them to milk and abuse that franchise even more "because it sells".

It's a never-ending loop.

[bait]

gravey is correct...good points well written.

Borys is the wet dreams consumer of every corporate ass. To say "It's just business...what can I do?" is like bending yourself over. Stick up for what you feel is right and do your part.

EA won't see this game as good or bad...they are all the same to them. Just a SKU.

Bottom line - EA damages the games industry...they have been doing it for over a decade. Supporting them in any way is bad for you as a gamer in the long term.

[Fyd]

FUN sells me a game, and BF2 is FUN.

YMMV

yeah man but playing doom3 at 20fps was NOT FUN :P im agree that a game must be fun but have to work on pc :)

[gloogan]

I'll be buying it prolly next week or maybe the end of this one. The only thing I'm not fond of EA doing is for the mod community having to send thier ideas to EA to make sure that its "ok" to be released. Its one thing for them to ban the demo servers for messing with the game because it is a DEMO, if they wanted you to be able to use the weapons or change the time limit or whatever else you can do then it would have been in there to start with. EA's swallowing of companies happens all the time in the buisness world, it sucks, but thats life. If you feel that not supporting EA will do some good then more power to you, but as for me they can have my money (for good games) cuz BF2 rocks!!

[Ted Huge]

I hate EA, and I do my level best not to support any of their titles. However, my urge to play Battlefield simply does not understand the politics of monopolization.