The PS3 is smaller then the Xbox 360

[StrifeSnake13*]

psinext.com (http://psinext.com/index.php?categoryid=17&m_articles_articleid=88&PHPSESSID=c0741714c9cef95e8d1eb3c464671da6) wrote,
Japanese publication Nikkei Electronics recently published an image containing the actual measurements of the PS3 displayed at E3, and for those who were fearing an over-sized monster, your fears have been put to rest.

With measurements of 320mm x 240mm x 80mm to the XBox 360's 309mm x 258mm x 83mm - in inches: 12.6" x 9.45" x 3.15" for PS3 vs 12.17" x 10.16" x 3.27" for XBox 360 - Sony's new console enjoys a 7.5% advantage in physical volume.

So for those that were worried the PS3 would be something of a 'barbeque grill,' as it has been negatively referred on some sites due to it's perceived size, take heart in knowing that this stylish piece of consumer electronics equipment is in fact smaller than the competing console from Microsoft.The image from Nikkei Electronics may be viewed here: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/NE/rep/050617.html

if anyone is wondering how reliable nikkei is; gamespot uses them as a source in this article: article (http://gamespot.com/news/2005/06/20/news_6127799.html)

[KarmaGhost]

Um, what?
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[Borys]

Needs a black version, stat.

[Pex-Corrh]

So the pictures of the Xbox and Xbox 360 next to each other (with the 360 being considerably smaller) are just tears in the space-time continuum? According to that site the 360 is only a couple of mm smaller than the Xbox.

[Zeal]

Too bad the PS3 is actually bigger than the original Xbox AND Xbox 360.

[StrifeSnake13*]

Too bad the PS3 is actually bigger than the original Xbox AND Xbox 360.

Not according to Nikkei Electronics so unless you can show some proof, I'll take their word over yours.

[Offworlder]

Ok. Great. The big size controversy is settled. Now if we could just figure out which one tastes better.

[Morratut]

According to that picture the PS2 is more powerful than the Xbox 1.

Xbox power in floppage = 1.4666
PS2 power in floppage = 6.2

Now if the figures are wrong then ok.If they are right then it proves that gflopage aren't a true indication of power. ;)

[StrifeSnake13*]

According to that picture the PS2 is more powerful than the Xbox 1.

Xbox power in floppage = 1.4666
PS2 power in floppage = 6.2

Now either them figures are wrong then so ok.If they are right then it proves that gflopage aren't a true indication of power. ;)
I think that figure is correct, floppage isn’t that important; but many people say that the ps2 cpu was actually very powerful but it lacked bandwith, ram, and a good GPU among other things.

Lets try not to turn this thread into a ps2 vs xbox discussion.

[Somefool]

Japanese hardware sites are often unreliable- if you think industry money affects reviews/previews over here in the U.S., know that it's 3,000 times worse in Japan.
That said, I think those measurements jive with what I've heard before.
The terraflop thing makes no sense whatsoever. The numbers HAVE to be wrong, or there is something lost in the moonspeak that we can't understand.

[Morratut]

Yeah sorry don't mean to turn the thread into a ps2 vs xbox war.

I just wanted to say that if the figures are true then it highlights that manufacturers can talk flops etc all they want. However it doesn't indicate the power of a system :D

[if76]

well the top of the PS3 curves. Maybe they measured from the lowest point on the curve rather than the highest

[Citizen Philip]

Double-quarter pounded or Big Mac, which is bigger?

Oh wait. I remeber, in order to play a console you must balance it on your back, or hold one in each hand with your arms raised for an extended period of time.

I understand that this is important, and worthy of many pages of flames, my e-peen vs your e-peen, etc.

[frederec]

Double-quarter pounded or Big Mac, which is bigger?

Oh wait. I remeber, in order to play a console you must balance it on your back, or hold one in each hand with your arms raised for an extended period of time.

I understand that this is important, and worthy of many pages of flames, my e-peen vs your e-peen, etc.
Actually, one (admittedly small) reason this may be important is that when the xbox came out, and even to this day, my wife and I joke how it looks like a suitcase. The xbox always just seemed like a monstrosity compared to other consoles I'd seen before. I think it's a little sad that both the new xbox and playstation seem to be bigger than that. And there's the classic excuse that Japanese care how big their consoles are because they have so little room in their tiny homes.

[Stryfe01]

those specs are wrong about the GFLOPS. Atleast from what i've seen on google. I cannot find any references to that kind of processing power for the PS2. Besides, all the hardware sites have been over these machines from day one. The PS2 is not as powerful as the Xbox. Who has the better games ? That of course is a matter of opinion.

[bapenguin]

No sir....I don't buy it. For people that have actually SEEN both systems at E3, can you give us a comparison?

[DannoHung]

And I thought Microsoft was good at FUD.

[Vermin]

Sony's new console enjoys a 7.5% advantage in physical volume.


In other news, gaming press revolutionizes atomic physics when it successfully splits hairs.

[Chagrinful]

OMG! Console war OVER! As someone else mentioned the thing looks like fucking shit rebaked then wiped over someone's ass. So does the 360 though, I like the way to Revoulation looks

[zyzyx]

They look almost exactly the same size to me. Certainly a fair bit bigger than the PS2 though and it will be interesting to see how the Japanese take to that.

[Commissar Rob]

OMG! Console war OVER! As someone else mentioned the thing looks like fucking shit rebaked then wiped over someone's ass. So does the 360 though, I like the way to Revoulation looks

Not to be overly curious, but I'm really, really hoping that's not an analogy you've developed from empirical evidence :D

[erasmus]

OMG! Console war OVER! As someone else mentioned the thing looks like fucking shit rebaked then wiped over someone's ass. So does the 360 though, I like the way to Revoulation looks

I also like the way the Revolution is spelled, which is certainly not that. I also don't understand anyone who says they like the way it looks. It's a small rectangular box that looks absolutely generic. The GameCube was at least distinctive. All the next-gen consoles are looking pretty bland, but at 360 will have customizable faceplates.

[bobbler]

Take a peak at this thread -- it'll give you some more info on sizes (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23045&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

[Reanimated]

BULLSHIT.

First off, I've never heard of this site. Secondly, their measurements DO NOT match what Gamespot and IGN both have up.

[Furious Wang]

Yeah. That's just wrong. Either way, the article is deceptive. Even if the volume is smaller, the PS3 is clearly longer which is what counts.

[Kamalot]

So, the PS3, being smaller than a grill, no longer looks like one?

Did they change the shape of it at all?

Is Ken Kutaragi behind this story too with his fantastical dreamland of voodoo numbers?

[kathode]

So for those that were worried the PS3 would be something of a 'barbeque grill,' as it has been negatively referred on some sites due to it's perceived sizeDon't think it's the size that has people comparing it to a George Foreman. It's that weird clamshell shape that looks like it's ready to open up and then clamp right down on a nice juicy burger.

[Reanimated]

Knock Out The Fat!

[Heretic Machine]

In other news, the PS3's games will be 300% bigger than the XBOX 360's! OMFG HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIT THE REAL 3D OBJECTS IN OUR APARTMENTS?!?!?!?!?

[bobbler]

...
Secondly, their measurements DO NOT match what Gamespot and IGN both have up.

Hate to break it to you, but those measurements of Xbox360 are the official (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8417/Xbox-360-Physical-Dimensions/) ones (the xbox1 measurements are wrong, but I believe gamespot and ign both have the same little cut 'n paste comparison).

Tell me again why is this so unbelievable?

Every plausible size comparison out there says PS3 is very comparable in size to Xbox360. It's not as if the Xbox360 is incredibly small...

I'm not saying those numbers are correct, but assuming the PS3 is going to be the size of Xbox1 or more is going a bit far... If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the size differences between Xbox360 and PS3 being marginal at best.

[Kamalot]

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the size differences between Xbox360 and PS3 being marginal at best.
That's because, Sony secretly replaced the insides of the PS3 with the guts of the Xbox 360. Since they know Microsoft will be selling the console at a loss, Sony will be buying up gobs and gobs of 360s from Best Buy, replacing the outter shell with that of a PS3, and re-selling them at a markup. This hurts Microsoft and means that Sony can sell each PS3 at a profit!

[Kamalot]

So for those that were worried the PS3 would be something of a 'barbeque grill,'
Damn, I thought it said 'barbeque GIRL!' I was wondering why so many people would be upset at a console shaped like the female figure covered in barbeque sauce...

[Reanimated]

Hate to break it to you, but those measurements of Xbox360 are the official (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8417/Xbox-360-Physical-Dimensions/) ones (the xbox1 measurements are wrong, but I believe gamespot and ign both have the same little cut 'n paste comparison).

Tell me again why is this so unbelievable?






Hate to break it to you, but I was talking about the PS3... Maybe it's time to put your Jump To Conclusions mat back in the closet. My reasons stand- scroll up and read again.

[bobbler]

Hate to break it to you, but I was talking about the PS3... Maybe it's time to put your Jump To Conclusions mat back in the closet. My reasons stand- scroll up and read again.

So Gamespot and IGN have official numbers?

Really... then problem solved!

Btw, do you have links to them? (I can't seem to find them).

(In addition, if you look at the power socket, the usb ports, the disc drive size they all point to PS3 being almost the exact size of the Xbox360 -- unless you have better proof than that, I'll chalk this up to more of your insanity)

[fitbabits]

Since when does size matter? It's all about the games! Seriously, I don't know anyone who would choose not to buy a console because of its size.

[netcraazzy]

Since when does size matter? It's all about the games! Seriously, I don't know anyone who would choose not to buy a console because of its size.

Your argument has merit but I am getting rather tired of hearing this in every thread. I think the Xbox proves that size and appearance DOES count for something. The Xbox is big and clunky and that turned some consumers off. Every aspect of a console counts for something, it's all part of creating a positive perception in the minds of your average consumer.

[Freakshow Billy]

OMG that settles it... no Xbox 360 for me. It is bigger!

[peeweejd]

volume does not equal size...

since volume is the cube of the dimensions, somethign that is 2X as big (2x height, 2x width, 2x depth) it will actually be 8 times the volume (2x2x2=8)...

i'm not disagreeing that xbox is bigger than ps3, i'm just pointing out that the logic in the comparison is flawed... if one was to take the cube root of 7.5 you could get the mean percentage by which to increase the ps3's dimensions to obtain a proper comparison in size.. the cube root of 7.5% is approximately 1.15%, so you could multiply all the PS3 dimensions by 1.0115 to obtain the dimensions of a PS3 that occupies a volume that is 7.5% larger...

for somethign that seems irrational, read up on gabriel's horn.. it is a 3 dimensional solid with an infinite surface area and a finite volume (ie: you can fill it with paint, but you would never have enough paint to coat the outside of it).. the basic shape is a trumpet... http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/torricelli/torricelli.htm

[DigitalMystic]

Double-quarter pounder or Big Mac, which is bigger?

There goes my Supersize Me! crack :D

[H.M._Murdock]

...and who is to say the demensions of the PS3 model at E3 are final? It was just an empty shell.

[fitbabits]

Your argument has merit but I am getting rather tired of hearing this in every thread. I think the Xbox proves that size and appearance DOES count for something. The Xbox is big and clunky and that turned some consumers off. Every aspect of a console counts for something, it's all part of creating a positive perception in the minds of your average consumer.

Thank you! Your counterpoint also has some merit to it. I guess, though, when it comes to size, an eighth-of-an-inch or so is nothing.

I’d rather have a big and bulky Xbox with Halo, Jade Empire, Doom 3, Forza, etc. than a cute wee GameCube with very few games that I find of interest. So my point again is that it is (or should be) all about the games.

Oh, and I own all three current gen consoles, so no accusations of fanboyism!

[Cyrano]

I like my consoles fucking HUGE. For example, the Atari 5200. It doubles as a surfboard. The Trak-ball alone is bigger than a PS2 and Gamecube put together.

I found the specs for the 360 at gamespot:

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-15016-S-4-6

The dimensions listed at gamespot for the 360 match the ones at that Japanese site exactly.

The corresponding page for the PS3 at gamespot doesn't list any dimensions, though. A quick Google search doesn't turn up anything for PS3 dimensions, probably because the PS3 only exists as a twinkle in crazy Uncle Ken's eye right now.

[Duc Ngai]

BULLSHIT.

First off, I've never heard of this site. Secondly, their measurements DO NOT match what Gamespot and IGN both have up.

Then you should have just "Googled" to find your answer. I have heard of this business news organization before. They're pretty much Bloomberg and Reuters of Japan.

Wikipedia's Nikkei entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_Keizai_Shimbun)