View Full Version : Batman Begins Sequel murmurs
Kefkataran
06-20-2005, 01:30 PM
Of course it's already been talked to death about how Batman Begins is planned to be a trilogy. But two big news stories today should put down any last doubts any one may have had of the sequel's eventuality.
Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000963361) has a story about the film's success which includes a quote from a Warner exec who mentions how excited he is for a sequel. Meanwhile Hollywood North Report (http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=1420) has an interview with star Christian Bale and director Christopher Nolan. Bale talks about his confidence in picking up the batsuit again for a second outing.
Also interesting are the first early rumors about who will be the Joker in the probably-not-yet-really-titled Batman Continues.
sickfallout
06-20-2005, 02:03 PM
no one will ever beat jack nicholson at the joker. ever.ever.ever.ever.ever.ever.ever.ever.ever.ever. ever.ever.ever.ever.ever. they shouldn't even bother.
darkwarrior
06-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Was more the Joker as Jack Nicholson.
But he was good, I remember Batman being one of my fav early films but now the focus will be on Batman as much as Joker hopefully instead of all about the Joker.
I nominate that guy who hosts the soup on E!
StoneGut
06-20-2005, 02:14 PM
No doubt about it that the Jack's shoes are very big ones to fill. Hey, you never know... he might just come back to try them on himself.
DigitalFirefly
06-20-2005, 02:15 PM
a sequal to a Batman movie, how original.
Blade
06-20-2005, 02:29 PM
The Joker is probably the best Batman villain (even putting aside his official rank as Batman's arch-nemesis) and Jack Nicholson will not be topped. Matched, not topped.
Edward Norton, anybody? He has the face, and enough range. Very entertaining actor in general..
crashedout
06-20-2005, 02:38 PM
It all depends on how they realize the Joker. They could take the character in a whole new direction, one in which a different actor would be perfect.
Gitaroomaan
06-20-2005, 02:41 PM
So...Supposedly the next two movies are roughly sketched out as follows (Mild Spoilers):
In the next one, Batman enlists DA Harvey Dent to help him bring down the Joker. In the third film, the Joker goes on trial, and in the process Dent is scarred and becomes Two-Face.
a sequal to a Batman movie, how original.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Tricky Thumb
06-20-2005, 02:41 PM
You know lots of people said Bale could only hope to do as good a job as Keaton let along better.
Personally Bale is the Batman to me and if they cast the Joker how I hope they will I think old Jackie boy is going to be matched if not beat as well. it's not so just the a better actor, but I feel the movie concept as a whole is just better this way.
To me BB is a real Batman movie, not what Burton made (although good) originally.
Look, no one is ever going to beat Nicholson's performance as the Joker. We all agree.
But we gotta look at the next Joker as a fresh start. Get a really talented young actor to play a young Joker and you could have something awesome here. It'll be especially awesome considering the film will more or less probe the Joker's mind and motivations for why he is what he is.
Just seeing the Joker on the big screen again is enough to get me excited. He's as legendary as Batman. An icon.
KNOTE
06-20-2005, 02:57 PM
My vote is for Crispin Glover to be the joker. Thoughts?
Major Scud
06-20-2005, 03:05 PM
Mark Hamill / Joker '07!
Cha-Ka
06-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Realize that I hate all the Batman movies* when I say the following:
I've always thought Nicholson was a terrible joker. He was old, fat and Burton had him doing all that song and dance crap. He was also way to well-known an actor to bring anything but "Jack" to the part. I love Ed Norton as a performer, but I can't really see him pulling off The Laugh.
I think the best Joker would be a hybridization of Tom Kinny's acting (from Mr. Show and the voice of Spongebob Squarepants) with Mark Hamil's voice. I hope the mad scientists in the audience are taking notes for future projects here...
*I haven't seen the new one but please don't try to sell me on it. I'll rent it some future night when I feel like having my childhood runover by a truck. I won't be happy until Frank Miller gets to direct The Dark Knight Returns feature film. I know. I know. I'm living in a crazy dreamworld.
Chagrinful
06-20-2005, 03:11 PM
Bale raped Keaton acting wise as batman.
Kefkataran
06-20-2005, 03:12 PM
I'm among the few who are wishing for a younger, lesser-known guy to step up to the role.
Bushido
06-20-2005, 03:17 PM
Did Batman compare to Equilibrium? Cause that show knocked my F-ing socks off
Abednigo
06-20-2005, 03:19 PM
I'd like to see a Batman movie centered around The Killing Joke or Arkham Asylum. Those are two of the best Batman books I've ever read.
DigitalFirefly
06-20-2005, 03:38 PM
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Sorry, that should have read something more like "a sequal to a Batman movie, didn't see that one coming". That comment was supposed to be sarcastic. I like the Batman movies, I have em on DVD.
Com_Gaunt
06-20-2005, 03:43 PM
It was an awesome movie, I saw at an Imax and it blew me away.... they had everything spot on.... it's not the 60's batman portrayed in the earlier movies... this is the Dark Knight... Michael Caine as Alfred is fucking excellent... it all falls in to place perfectly... also the guy cast as Detective Gordon was fucking excellent....
If you are into Batman and read the comics and shit, you'll love this movie...
The only downside was Tom Cruises little fiancee dabbling about... but she did not ruin it too badly....
It's fucking excellent!!! Up next is War of the Worlds... can't wait for that shit! I have a HG Wells 1930's first print of the novel and Jeff Wayne's Rock Opera... bring it on Spielberg!!!
Conner Dain
06-20-2005, 03:47 PM
Look, no one is ever going to beat Nicholson's performance as the Joker. We all agree.
Umm, sorry. We don't. It's actually fairly sillly to say that Nicholson's performance can't be improved on. He's a great actor and his portrayal of the Joker was great. But's let's be honest: Jack Nicholson as the Joker was just that: Jack Nicholson as the Joker. You never forgot who was PLAYING the Joker. I think the idea of Crispin Glover playing the Joker is inspired.
Heretic Machine
06-20-2005, 03:52 PM
Edward Norton, anybody? He has the face, and enough range. Very entertaining actor in general..
You know, as much as I like Edwarn Norton, everytime a movie topic comes up someone has to say that Edward Norton should be in a leading role. He doesn't have -that- much range dammit.
ElectricMonk
06-20-2005, 04:00 PM
It was an awesome movie, I saw at an Imax and it blew me away.... they had everything spot on.... it's not the 60's batman portrayed in the earlier movies... this is the Dark Knight... Michael Caine as Alfred is fucking excellent... it all falls in to place perfectly... also the guy cast as Detective Gordon was fucking excellent....
If you are into Batman and read the comics and shit, you'll love this movie...
The only downside was Tom Cruises little fiancee dabbling about... but she did not ruin it too badly....
It's fucking excellent!!! Up next is War of the Worlds... can't wait for that shit! I have a HG Wells 1930's first print of the novel and Jeff Wayne's Rock Opera... bring it on Spielberg!!!
"The guy cast as gordon" would happen to be gary oldman who is an awesome actor in everything he's in.
i wasn't a fan of jack nicholson's joker. he was too fat and too much of a ham (even though it sort of works in that context).
it is all about getting somebody who's a charismatic bad-guy though, like Alfred Molina as dr octopus was an inspired choice.
VoodooKarma
06-20-2005, 04:05 PM
So...Supposedly the next two movies are roughly sketched out as follows (Mild Spoilers):
In the next one, Batman enlists DA Harvey Dent to help him bring down the Joker. In the third film, the Joker goes on trial, and in the process Dent is scarred and becomes Two-Face.
That sounds good but where would Scarecrow fit in all that? They were obviously setting him up for a role in any sequel along with the Joker. I just hope they don't try and fit too many bad guys in like that horrendous Batman Forever tried to but as long as Nolan directs I am not too worried.
Rakael
06-20-2005, 04:07 PM
I actually like the idea of having multiple villans; mostly because it was handled so well in this movie. Just so long as it doesn't get out of hand.
Deadend
06-20-2005, 04:11 PM
Mark Hamill / Joker '07!
Damn it! you beat me to it!
Hamill played Joker on the Animated Series, I think he could definatly pull off the clown prince of crime.
On the total opposite end... know who would be really bad for the Joker?
Paul Walker, the dude is the... cardboard, you could have a piece of cardboard play him and do just as well.
But yeah, Mark Hamill is already my favorite joker.
Major Scud
06-20-2005, 04:13 PM
I saw the 89 movie with Nicholson's joker first. I then saw the 90's animated series later. Whenever I read the comics, I picture Mark Hamill's voice, not Nicholson, despite seeing his portrayal first. I REALLY REALLY want Hamill to play joker.
That sounds good but where would Scarecrow fit in all that? They were obviously setting him up for a role in any sequel along with the Joker. I just hope they don't try and fit too many bad guys in like that horrendous Batman Forever tried to but as long as Nolan directs I am not too worried.
I think the Scarecrow and the Joker could easily find something to do together, especially with the Scarecrow's talent for causing general panic and fear. I only hope that with the Joker they add Ms Quinn to his gang. Harley (Harly?) is one of my favorite side characters and I think it would be fun to see her in live action. If Dent plays a character more on the back-burner and they just sort of set up he and Bruce's relationship, I think that could work out perfectly. I was honestly surprised when Holmes sort of filled the D.A. role in this flick instead of Harv. Then again, they already had 80 characters from the Bat-verse running around.
And Glover is just weird, but not Joker weird to me. Edward Norton could act like a piece of toast for an hour and a half and I'd buy it but I just don't see him as the Joker either. Someone with really elongated, exaggerated features would be a safe bet (provided they could act, of course). No names spring to mind, though, so whoever is picked, it'll be a surprise to me.
Major Scud
06-20-2005, 04:19 PM
Joker = Mark Hamill
Two Face = Mos Def
Harley = Jennifer Tilly
that is all.
splatstick
06-20-2005, 04:27 PM
No way, dudes. Christopher fucking Walken as Joker.
Kelegacy
06-20-2005, 04:27 PM
Keaton will always be THE batman for me. Bale is probably a good second best, though.
Is the new movie with the Joker going to be an alternate universe or some shit? Because didnt we see Nicholson BECOME the Joker and THEN die? What the hell? Did the Joker have an evil twin or just was immune to horrific, body destroying acid? (i cant remember how he really died, just a foggy guess)
jedinitelmu
06-20-2005, 04:29 PM
They need to make sure that the Joker in the next movie is a crazy psycho killer who dresses like a clown and not a clown that likes to kill. There's a difference. The Joker in the comics is completely crazy and sadistic, that's how I want the Joker in the sequel to be.
Kelegacy
06-20-2005, 04:30 PM
Damn it! you beat me to it!
Hamill played Joker on the Animated Series, I think he could definatly pull off the clown prince of crime.
On the total opposite end... know who would be really bad for the Joker?
Paul Walker, the dude is the... cardboard, you could have a piece of cardboard play him and do just as well.
But yeah, Mark Hamill is already my favorite joker.
Skywalker did the voice? He did an excellent job then. That sounded nothing like him. The Joker on the animated series was a demented fuck. One of my all-time favorite bad dudes.
Then again, i also liked that Clay dude too. The episode where it shows how they poured the putty gunk all over his face sickened me...and then he became that gelatinous inhumanioid.
Joker = Mark Hamill
Two Face = Mos Def
Harley = Jennifer Tilly
that is all.
Hamill doesn't look like the Joker though. If they did a voice-over, I'd be 100 percent with you on that.
Mos Def would actually make a very interesting Dent/Two-Face.
And Tilly is too sultry for Harley. Too femme fatale maybe. I would love to see Charlize Theron in the role, but I doubt she'd fit as Harley either.
Kelegacy
06-20-2005, 04:36 PM
Star Jones as Harley!!!
riposte101
06-20-2005, 04:37 PM
And Tilly is too sultry for Harley. Too femme fatale maybe. I would love to see Charlize Theron in the role, but I doubt she'd fit as Harley either.
Kirsten Dunst as Harley. She's already proved she can be ditzy in that cheerleading "bring it on" movie she was in.
Kirsten Dunst as Harley. She's already proved she can be ditzy in that cheerleading "bring it on" movie she was in.
I was really leaning towards Dunst but I think the fact that she's been MJ would just make it too hard for me to role-swap her like that. Maybe not though. Out of everyone I think think of, she'd be perfect. What about that girl who was in Thirteen?
B_Money
06-20-2005, 04:43 PM
I nominate that guy who hosts the soup on E!
Greg Kinear or John Henson?
Maskatron
06-20-2005, 04:48 PM
Cripsen Glover just seems like the obvious choice to me. I mean, who plays crazy more convincinly?
novicius
06-20-2005, 04:50 PM
Dunst has to be one of the worst suggestions I have yet read -- she is *painful* to watch in the Spiderman flicks. Bah!
Eric_T_Cheng
06-20-2005, 04:50 PM
Hamill doesn't look like the Joker though. If they did a voice-over, I'd be 100 percent with you on that.
In the short lived Bird of Prey tv series, there was a flashback of how Barbara Gordon, as Batgirl, got paralyzed. The flashback had the Joker showing up at her door and shooting her (and hitting her spine). They got some no-name actor portraying the Clown Prince of Crime in the shadows while having Mark Hamill do the Joker's voice.
bardockkun
06-20-2005, 05:00 PM
No way, dudes. Christopher fucking Walken as Joker.
That's the most original choice ive heard in awhile, but than again whenever people are looking someone to play the lines of "sadistic, maniac who looks evil" look no further than Christopher Walken. Though he certainly has the grace of the Joker with his dancing skills. My choice for Joker would be Adrien Brodie though, since he has the thin build and the acting talent so im sure he can handle a manical, smiling and laughing Joker. Though i wouldnt mind seeing the Joker from the short fan movie Batman: Dead End (has anyone seen that? One of the best Batman movies 3rd to Mask of the Phatasm and Begins), in there. Since he sure as hell has the scary demented look of the Joker or at least see a look like that for the joker in the next Batman movie.
Sinistar
06-20-2005, 05:00 PM
Cripsen Glover just seems like the obvious choice to me. I mean, who plays crazy more convincinly?
As was said before - Nolan would be stupid to cast the Joker from the US. The success of this movie is derived from the overtly MALE foreign casting. Not wussy US talent.
For the Joker they need someone who can actually act and Glover DOES NOT fit that bill at all. Casting Glover is like the old Batman movies ("hey, Jim Carrey is going to be the Riddler! He's PERFECT for that role!"). And that's part of the problem with the old movies - letting fanboys dictate who should be in what role. egads.
Haha, Christopher Walken would be awesome. I like him because he always is so fucking weird in all of his movies. If you're not going to have Mark Hamill since he's the voice of joker for me then you might as well go with an extremely weird joker such as Walken.
KDups
06-20-2005, 05:05 PM
Wow, the movie's been out for less than a week and the spoilers are flying left and right. Thanks guys. Glad this was on the main page.
bardockkun
06-20-2005, 05:08 PM
Haha, Christopher Walken would be awesome. I like him because he always is so fucking weird in all of his movies. If you're not going to have Mark Hamill since he's the voice of joker for me then you might as well go with an extremely weird joker such as Walken.
Have you heard Christopher Walken talk? I honestly dont want a thesbian Joker, though ill admit id pay the ticket price to have Christopher Walken as the Joker say "I got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbells."
bradlay
06-20-2005, 05:22 PM
a sequal to a Batman movie, how original.
HOLY SHIT! Someone said something snide on an interweb forum! First time ever.
Also, this is the first sarcasm ever recorded on EA.
bardockkun
06-20-2005, 05:31 PM
And some australian actor named Lachy Hulme is the front runner interms of rumors for once to play Joker. Damn, the most i ever post on these forums always seems Batman related.
Major Scud
06-20-2005, 05:35 PM
I just think tilly would have a great harley voice. If not her then I think I'd like Marley Shelton, she has the look, and was a cheerleader in that "sugar and spice" flick.
GrinR
06-20-2005, 05:38 PM
This thread has collapsed under the weight of circle-jerking fanboi jabber.
THREAD CLOSED!
MosBen
06-20-2005, 05:40 PM
The guy that played The Joker on Batman: Dead End was the guy that played Boner from Growing Pains.
Personally, I liked the guy that did the Joker in Grayson...
http://staffofra.blogspot.com/2005/06/i-got-fever-and-only-prescriptionis.html#comments
And some australian actor named Lachy Hulme is the front runner interms of rumors for once to play Joker. Damn, the most i ever post on these forums always seems Batman related.
If he's the guy I'm thinking he is, he was the operator for the Logos in the Matrix, yes? Had more of a role in Enter the Matrix than he did that actual films. If this is the right guy and he gets the role, I'll cut my ears off now so I don't have to listen to the man try and act. He made Keanu Reeves look like a respectable actor in comparison.
carneconcarne
06-20-2005, 05:43 PM
My vote for the joker, tommy hilfiger.
Major Scud
06-20-2005, 05:47 PM
"I truly believe -- and I know that when people see the films I won't be shot down for this -- I truly believe that The Matrix Reloaded will go down as the greatest sequel since The Godfather Part II." - Lachy Hulme
If he gets joker over Mark Hamill I will not see the film out of spite.
Tyrant
06-20-2005, 05:51 PM
the guy that played Boner from Growing Pains.
Am I the only one that cracked up after reading that?
A Lusty Alien
06-20-2005, 05:53 PM
Ok... I imagine this is going to generate a lot of flames, but I just had an off the wall idea. Before you get all hostile, take a couple of minutes and think about it.
What about David Schwimmer (Ross from Friends) as the Joker. He's got the build and the shape of the face; in Joker Makeup, he'd look completely different. The only question would be does he have the acting chops to play the Joker with the right amount of sociopathic menace?
Just a thought...
bardockkun
06-20-2005, 06:02 PM
Ok... I imagine this is going to generate a lot of flames, but I just had an off the wall idea. Before you get all hostile, take a couple of minutes and think about it.
What about David Schwimmer (Ross from Friends) as the Joker. He's got the build and the shape of the face; in Joker Makeup, he'd look completely different. The only question would be does he have the acting chops to play the Joker with the right amount of sociopathic menace?
Just a thought...
From best Friend to BATMAN's ENEMY! ...I imagine that will be the tagline on Hollywood Reporter or something. Once more Adrien Brodie has the face and build and acting chops.
B_Money
06-20-2005, 06:09 PM
HOLY SHIT! Someone said something snide on an interweb forum! First time ever.
Also, this is the first sarcasm ever recorded on EA.
Wow, scarcasm about scarasm. This has to be the first..Oh, screw it, I'll be at Moe's.
B_Money
06-20-2005, 06:12 PM
If he's the guy I'm thinking he is, he was the operator for the Logos in the Matrix, yes? Had more of a role in Enter the Matrix than he did that actual films. If this is the right guy and he gets the role, I'll cut my ears off now so I don't have to listen to the man try and act. He made Keanu Reeves look like a respectable actor in comparison.
He was Sparks (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0401522/) in Matrix Revolutions
splatstick
06-20-2005, 06:14 PM
Howard Dean would be my second pic for Joker... that scream would be fucking creepy. Definately Joker-core.
He was Sparks (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0401522/) in Matrix Revolutions
Yup, that's him. Hey, while we're thinking of Grade-A material for the follow-up, why not go ahead and cast Jack from Will and Grace as Harley. I mean, the two would work wonders together side by side.
Sinistar
06-20-2005, 06:22 PM
Howard Dean would be my second pic for Joker... that scream would be fucking creepy. Definately Joker-core.
Perfect - and add George W. as Harvey Dent. A dream match up that only Hollywood could create!
ElectricMonk
06-20-2005, 06:30 PM
i'd like to see steve buscemi as the joker mainly because i like steve buscemi
he's getting a little old now though
splatstick
06-20-2005, 06:31 PM
i'd like to see steve buscemi as the joker mainly because i like steve buscemi
he's getting a little old now though
He wouldn't even need make-up, God knows how fucked-up looking he is on his own.
Heretic Machine
06-20-2005, 06:33 PM
Is the new movie with the Joker going to be an alternate universe or some shit? Because didnt we see Nicholson BECOME the Joker and THEN die? What the hell? Did the Joker have an evil twin or just was immune to horrific, body destroying acid? (i cant remember how he really died, just a foggy guess)
I don't think these movies connect to the old movies. Even in the loose connections that the old movies had.
And BTW, Christopher Walken is the best choice for the Joker, only because Christopher Walken is entertaining in -any- role. So even if he didn't fit the Joker, it would still be a great experience.
Kelegacy
06-20-2005, 06:43 PM
50 cent should be the Joker.
Two Face should be Rumsfeld
And Harlequin should be Al Roker
bardockkun
06-20-2005, 06:43 PM
If everyone is just picking their favorite random actors to play Joker than i might as well just let out another fanboy geekism and say Bruce Campbell. He's certainly got the chin for the Joker and the insanity with Evil Ash.
Laughing_Penguin
06-20-2005, 07:26 PM
I know it seems like typecasting after Spider-Man, but am I the only one seeing Willem DaFoe as the perfect Joker?
Look at this picture (http://www.peta.org/kids/grrr202/page/Willem-Dafoe-hi-res.jpg)
Or this one! (http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/a/Auto_Focus/cob.jpg)
He doesn't even need makeup... and a really good actor to boot.
Gitaroomaan
06-20-2005, 07:32 PM
I don't think these movies connect to the old movies. Even in the loose connections that the old movies had.
Correct, the new films are a complete reboot, they have nothing to do with any previous bat-film.
splatstick
06-20-2005, 07:46 PM
Holy shit... I was just watching Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (I've never watched it all the way through before, who knows why.....) and Mark Hamill fucking looks like the Joker. He could totally pull it off.
EDIT: "Don't fuck with a Jedi Master, son"
TrackZero
06-20-2005, 09:02 PM
The Joker is probably the best Batman villain (even putting aside his official rank as Batman's arch-nemesis) and Jack Nicholson will not be topped. Matched, not topped.
Edward Norton, anybody? He has the face, and enough range. Very entertaining actor in general..
Interesting choice. Though I think Edward's monotone voice would kind of exclude him from the role.
protojack
06-20-2005, 09:40 PM
I'm watching that AFI Tribute to George Lucas and Mark Hamil was just on. He just doesn't look like The Joker to me. Maybe if he lost some weight, Joker has to be skinny.
I think we can all agree that
Hamil : Joker's Voice :: Connery : Bond
Killrig
06-20-2005, 11:33 PM
You're all missing the obvious: Williem Dafoe as the Joker. They don't even need to don him with makeup!
riposte101
06-20-2005, 11:55 PM
I know it seems like typecasting after Spider-Man, but am I the only one seeing Willem DaFoe as the perfect Joker?
Look at this picture (http://www.peta.org/kids/grrr202/page/Willem-Dafoe-hi-res.jpg)
Or this one! (http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/a/Auto_Focus/cob.jpg)
He doesn't even need makeup... and a really good actor to boot.
Damn after seeing those photos I'm convinced.
yeah dafoe is the joker !!! but anyway i like Edward norton, i think he did a great job in fight club and american history x.
Nuggsy
06-21-2005, 12:42 AM
Well therein lies the problem. It seems to me that having an actor in two comic different comic book roles becomes a curse. Halle Berry anyone? Catwoman looked awful and there have been numerous issues surrounding X3 which seems like it will suck Sentinal crack.
I'm of the mind that Crispin Glover should be the Joker and Mark Hamil's voice should be ADRed in post. I also think that Gwen Stefani would make a killer Harley Quinn.
Personally I'd like to see Robin glossed over (i.e. - happen in between movies) and have Nightwing make an appearance. I'm almost ashamed to say that I would absolutely love an Azrael cameo as well.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the plan is to make a new Batman trilogy and, if the Superman franchise does well, do a fourth movie that is Batman and Supes. Does anyone else remember that, years ago, Darren Aronofsky and Neal Stephenson were onboard for a Batman Beyond feature? If the new Bat-flicks pan out, I'd really like to see this done as well.
bardockkun
06-21-2005, 01:07 AM
Well therein lies the problem. It seems to me that having an actor in two comic different comic book roles becomes a curse. Halle Berry anyone? Catwoman looked awful and there have been numerous issues surrounding X3 which seems like it will suck Sentinal crack.
I'm of the mind that Crispin Glover should be the Joker and Mark Hamil's voice should be ADRed in post. I also think that Gwen Stefani would make a killer Harley Quinn.
Personally I'd like to see Robin glossed over (i.e. - happen in between movies) and have Nightwing make an appearance. I'm almost ashamed to say that I would absolutely love an Azrael cameo as well.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the plan is to make a new Batman trilogy and, if the Superman franchise does well, do a fourth movie that is Batman and Supes. Does anyone else remember that, years ago, Darren Aronofsky and Neal Stephenson were onboard for a Batman Beyond feature? If the new Bat-flicks pan out, I'd really like to see this done as well.
One movie example can hardly add up to a curse. Catwoman sucked because, well, Warner Brothers and Halle Berry are stupid and even after awhile realized their stupidity and X3 will suck (or im truly, TRULY hoping it wont) because Bryan Singer is gone. It's amazing how through the animated series, Harley Quinn has become a staple in part of the character of the Joker, which shows the further impact of Bruce Timm and Paul Dini. All i ever remember hearing about Batman Beyond though was that it was originally supposed to be planned as a WB show (like Birds of Prey), but negotations fell through. But if something like Batman Beyond were to be made into a movie, i'd rather have The Dark Knight Returns as a future Batman movie. Though i figure it'd never happen since it'd need an R rating and i doubt kids woule appreciate Batman kicking the crap out of Superman along with a female Robin.
Bishop
06-21-2005, 05:51 AM
No doubt about it that the Jack's shoes are very big ones to fill. Hey, you never know... he might just come back to try them on himself.
Won't happen. The new batman movies are focusing on Batman and Jack played the Joker too over the top. It would overshadow the Batman character again.
Bishop
06-21-2005, 05:55 AM
So...Supposedly the next two movies are roughly sketched out as follows (Mild Spoilers):
In the next one, Batman enlists DA Harvey Dent to help him bring down the Joker. In the third film, the Joker goes on trial, and in the process Dent is scarred and becomes Two-Face.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Could possibly be in the same movie, where at the end we see a scarred Harvey Dent finally crack and become Two-Face.
Bishop
06-21-2005, 06:07 AM
No way, dudes. Christopher fucking Walken as Joker.
I was thinking more along the lines of Willem Dafoe. He got that big toothy smile, add some white face paint and you got the Joker. Plus he's crazy.
Teddeh
06-21-2005, 07:48 AM
"Skywalker did the voice? He did an excellent job then. That sounded nothing like him."
Mark Hamill has a long history of VO work, especially in games. Try Full Throttle - he plays Adrian Ripburger, amongst others. I had to check the credits - he sounds nothing like Skywalker. I've also seen interviews where he impersonates George Lucas or Harrison Ford - he's uncannily good.
He certainly could do the voice for the Batman sequel, and if he slimmed down a bit could probably play the part too.
Heretic Machine
06-21-2005, 07:55 AM
I would like to throw my hat in on the idea of getting one guy to play the face of the Joker, and have Hamill do the voice. That would be -sweet-
XenonCJ
06-21-2005, 10:05 AM
My Joker Nominations :
For stupidity:
The Rock
Haden Christensen
Emenim
Donald Trump
Sinbad
Gary Coleman
Keanu Reeves
Semi Serious:
John Malkovich
Vince Vaughn
Hugo Weaving
Nicholas Cage
Kefkataran
06-21-2005, 10:09 AM
Hugo Weaving. Interesting choice. Certainly not my first choice, but he could pull it off pretty well, I bet.
Ravenlock
06-21-2005, 10:14 AM
Might as well jump in here to support Mark Hamill. Not necessarily in being cast as the Joker, because I don't think he looks the part - but his Joker portrayal in the animated series was BY FAR the best Joker performance ever. Left Nicholson in the dust.
And SharpMonkey - I know you've probably already left the thread not to return, but don't underestimate the Frank Miller influence on Batman Begins. It was significant. There are scenes practically right outta Year One in there, and some influence from DKR as well. It's not perfect, but it's a damn sight better than we've had before.
gdawg27
06-21-2005, 01:36 PM
Zooey Deschannel as Harley. She has the look and she's a pretty good actress.
Batman Begins is the best Batman movie so far. Tim Burton's had the better score.
Kefkataran
06-21-2005, 01:59 PM
I wonder if Harley will be in the movie? Hmm...
YoungAlCapone
06-21-2005, 03:49 PM
I agree that Batman Begins is the best batman movie so far, I was only hoping that they could step up to the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton plate, never thought that they might pass it.
I think they need some new talent to do the Joker. I'm personally hoping that they can come up with somebody absolutely no name and have him be incredible. I think less popular actors, especially ones that I have never seen before, do so much more to pull me into the movie. Although I usually end up associating that character with them for the rest of thier career, like Jake Glyllenhall (or however the fuck you spell his last name) will always be Donnie Darko as far as Im concerned.
Either way, here is to hoping the cast someone great. I love Bale as Batman, he plays a great Batman. All pissed off and menacing and what not, good show.
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