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Raziel
06-16-2005, 09:15 AM
TV.com is reporting that the popular (on DVD) TV show Firefly will be returning to the airwaves on the Sci-Fi channel. No word yet as to new episodes.

http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=335

Everlost_MI
06-16-2005, 09:28 AM
Exceeeeeellent! Even though I own the series on DVD. :)

Blue
06-16-2005, 09:29 AM
Joss Whedon is my master now.

Best....news....eva'

Phades
06-16-2005, 09:34 AM
If there are new episodes I just might crap myself.

Klade
06-16-2005, 09:34 AM
New episodes would be more exciting then starcraft 2 for me.

Everlost_MI
06-16-2005, 09:38 AM
There's a three issue comic book series (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=27841&highlight=serenity+dark+horse+comic) coming out in July from Dark Horse comics that bridges the gap between the series and the movie.

Scull
06-16-2005, 09:38 AM
The article says it will be airing the original 15 episodes (hopefully in order this time!). Maybe with enough support and ratings there will be a potential for new episodes.

joruussuun
06-16-2005, 09:38 AM
If the movie does well (which it probably will due to a rabid cult fanbase) than I hope they (Sci-Fi) take that as a hint to order new episodes. Though I believe the cast is signed for 2 more movies, so they may just do those instead of episodes. I would prefer episodes over movies, but maybe it will be a Firefly fans dream and they do episodes AND movies!
(Could I say 'episodes' any more times?)

rein
06-16-2005, 09:39 AM
I don't think there are new episodes. They are going to re-show the original season during the Friday night block that has Battlestar Galactica. I am pretty sure that is what I read somewhere. Either way, I am very glad to see it come back.

Can someone explain to me why someone like Fox would sit on a show like this when they know that they have a pretty decent interest in seeing it return to television? It just floors me when I see some of the crap they have on and yet they do nothing with this show. well.... ..nothing except dvd sales, a movie and letting Scifi run the original season.

bapenguin
06-16-2005, 09:43 AM
time to queue up the TIVO

Goronmon
06-16-2005, 09:45 AM
I thought I read somewhere that they would also be playing 3 unseen episodes as well...

Edit: Looks like I remembered correctly...

The Sci Fi Channel will air all 15 existing episodes, including the three that never made it to TV, starting on Friday, July 22.

From http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=335

theCurse
06-16-2005, 09:45 AM
Can someone explain to me why someone like Fox would sit on a show like this when they know that they have a pretty decent interest in seeing it return to television? It just floors me when I see some of the crap they have on and yet they do nothing with this show. well.... ..nothing except dvd sales, a movie and letting Scifi run the original season.

And they canceled Family Guy why? Because of low ratings? I think not. Television schedules have as much to do with whim as wisdom. For instance, did you know Battlestar Galactica (the original) was canceled because some t.v. executive's wife wanted to watch reruns of Bonanza? NOTE: I hate the original Battlestar.


I thought I read somewhere that they would also be playing 3 unseen episodes as well...

Those were in the DVD collection, I believe.

crashedout
06-16-2005, 09:46 AM
Considering the writing team is disbanded, the f/x house is doing other work and Joss is doing movies I would not count on more episodes. I like the show but I think the movie will only do so-so... sci-fi fan bases do not usually make a movie profitable, hence no sequels. I am looking forward to seeing the whole season IN ORDER and then finishing with the movie in the Fall closing the chapter and seeing what Joss does next.

rein
06-16-2005, 09:46 AM
I thought I read somewhere that they would also be playing 3 unseen episodes as well...

I think those are the episodes that are on the dvd but where never aired on tv.

joruussuun
06-16-2005, 09:46 AM
Can someone explain to me why someone like Fox would sit on a show like this when they know that they have a pretty decent interest in seeing it return to television? It just floors me when I see some of the crap they have on and yet they do nothing with this show. well.... ..nothing except dvd sales, a movie and letting Scifi run the original season.

Fox brought back Family Guy, and I've been hoping for them to bring back Firefly (based on fan support/DVD sales), but no luck so far. It's remotely possible Sci-Fi will ressurect the series, again, probably based on the movie's success. Sci-Fi did take over Stargate SG-1 when Showtime canceled it... but there wasn't years between.

Goronmon
06-16-2005, 09:48 AM
Those were in the DVD collection, I believe.
That makes sense.

Intruder
06-16-2005, 09:50 AM
WOOT!!! Getting the juices flowing before the big movie debut. As for new episodes it probably means those eps that were never aired from the 1st Season. I would be extemely surprised if they were all new episodes, so dont get too excited over that. However, if the movie does well and the show has a good ratings run on SCiFi then we might see interest in bringing it back. Hopefully however they will show more faith in FF than other great series such as Farscape. I died a little inside when they just killed it mid season, then tried to patch it up with a little movie. BTW anyone watching Baldwin on the Inside Wed. nights? Whatcha think? ALSO, I bought the 4400 1st season and watched it and just noticed this season that Summer stared in a new Ep of the 4400, playing of all things a totally CRAZY chick! Man typecasting at its best :) Too bad she didnt whip out some guns and go John Woo on the new directors ass :(

Cha-Ka
06-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Not suprising that the film's producers would want to use scifi channel (who, in turn, would want to boost their own ratings) with a media-blitz woven into broadcast of reruns.

If Fox or another major network was to resurrect the show with Joss Whedon behind it I'd be on-board, but I'd hate to see the franchise reborn under the scifi channel. Everything they touch turns to shit (Dune, MST, even Sliders lost its limited charm under thier schmaltzly guidance).

fushi
06-16-2005, 09:53 AM
For instance, did you know Battlestar Galactica (the original) was canceled because some t.v. executive's wife wanted to watch reruns of Bonanza?
Errr... source? Proof?

Klade
06-16-2005, 09:56 AM
Not suprising that the film's producers would want to use scifi channel (who, in turn, would want to boost their own ratings) with a media-blitz woven into broadcast of reruns.

If Fox or another major network was to resurrect the show with Joss Whedon behind it I'd be on-board, but I'd hate to see the franchise reborn under the scifi channel. Everything they touch turns to shit (Dune, MST, even Sliders lost its limited charm under thier schmaltzly guidance).

I would agree with you, but then they redid battlestar gallactica and really I think thats a show of the first order, deserving to be accounted as equal to star trek next generation, firefly, and Babylon 5.

BloodAngel
06-16-2005, 09:57 AM
Yeah I loved the series... but to see the Sci-Fi channel get its mitts on it.... Skeptical is a mild sentiment at this point.

serion
06-16-2005, 10:02 AM
Oooh. This is good news :D
Should pass the time 'til the movie

rei
06-16-2005, 10:13 AM
http://www.corpnews.com/node/75

"According to some unnamed sources, MxO has been sold.

To Sony.

And except for 26 people, everyone's been given their 60 day notice. That includes event staff."

Blue
06-16-2005, 10:17 AM
http://www.corpnews.com/node/75

"According to some unnamed sources, MxO has been sold.

To Sony.

And except for 26 people, everyone's been given their 60 day notice. That includes event staff."

Ah yes. MxO....Firefly. Similar.

Hijinx
06-16-2005, 10:18 AM
Very pleased to hear this. It was a small hole that was filled after the B5 Blues.

Rock on Sci-Fi Opera.

Eric_T_Cheng
06-16-2005, 10:20 AM
I like the show but I think the movie will only do so-so... sci-fi fan bases do not usually make a movie profitable, hence no sequels.

Err...and how many Star Wars and Star Trek tv series were there?

The original Star Trek series was cancelled after three seasons only to be revived by an animated series and the movies. With the success of the original series movies spun out four new tv series.

rein
06-16-2005, 10:20 AM
http://www.corpnews.com/node/75

"According to some unnamed sources, MxO has been sold.

To Sony.

And except for 26 people, everyone's been given their 60 day notice. That includes event staff."


Shouldn't this be a news submission and not a thread jack?

Well... ..not one for Matrix Online but I am going to re-subscribe to my Station Pass. They have added several games lately that I have not played since beta. Might be worth checking them out.

Oblivion
06-16-2005, 10:30 AM
I don't understand the firefly love. I watched the first episode and I was literally forcing myself to watch. bad-cliche dialog, effects, acting, story etc. one episode of constant groaning was enough. I am a huge Sci-fi fan too! someone explain this to me please?

thecrazyd
06-16-2005, 10:34 AM
How about you base your judgement on more than a single episode?

joruussuun
06-16-2005, 10:37 AM
How about you base your judgement on more than a single episode?

I agree, I think it was around three episodes before I really got into it... good thing I had them on DVD.

Raziel
06-16-2005, 10:41 AM
I don't understand the firefly love. I watched the first episode and I was literally forcing myself to watch. bad-cliche dialog, effects, acting, story etc. one episode of constant groaning was enough. I am a huge Sci-fi fan too! someone explain this to me please?

Not sure how to respond to that. Everything you didn't like is what I think made the show great. Some of the best dialogue seen on TV, the acting and storyline were excellent and the special effects were amazing and unique. I love the way they did the CGI in the Firefly series, how they would purposely mis-frame CG shots and shake the 'camera' and whatnot, made it feel more realistic.

It's the bees knees!

siz
06-16-2005, 10:43 AM
I think the first episode I saw I didn't really like that much either. I think it was the episode "Safe" (The one where River is nearly burned for being a witch) and found it kinda cheesy. But when the DVDs were released, a friend encouraged me to watch them in order and I enjoyed it much more.

Also, what is up with Sci-Fi producing some super crappy made for TV movies like the Casper VanDien one with the big mummy and the lava one with the guy from 90210. Its like bad 50s monster movie writing and acting. After having a great show like BattleStar Galactica I thought this might be sign that the Sci-Channel was improving, but it seems to be more of the 50 foot woman attack a gas station.

Tia
06-16-2005, 10:47 AM
I don't understand the firefly love. I watched the first episode and I was literally forcing myself to watch. bad-cliche dialog, effects, acting, story etc. one episode of constant groaning was enough. I am a huge Sci-fi fan too! someone explain this to me please?

Nothing to explain, you are simply not awsome enough?

Did you like Buffy and Angel? If not, you probably won't like Firefly no matter what.

rei
06-16-2005, 10:48 AM
whoops. thread jack. wasn't thinking. yeah should have been a submission.

Rifter
06-16-2005, 10:52 AM
I don't understand the firefly love. I watched the first episode and I was literally forcing myself to watch. bad-cliche dialog, effects, acting, story etc. one episode of constant groaning was enough. I am a huge Sci-fi fan too! someone explain this to me please?

If you caught it on FOX, then you didn't really see the "first episode". The Train Job was a good episode... once some of the characters and plots got properly introduced. Also, that episode was pretty much thrown together, because fox didn't want to air the proper pilot.

Rifter
06-16-2005, 10:54 AM
Nothing to explain, you are simply not awsome enough?

Did you like Buffy and Angel? If not, you probably won't like Firefly no matter what.

Actually, that is not exactly true. I was not a big fan of those series, but I really liked Firefly.

joruussuun
06-16-2005, 10:55 AM
I love the way they did the CGI in the Firefly series, how they would purposely mis-frame CG shots and shake the 'camera' and whatnot, made it feel more realistic.

I agree. I watched the Making Of or whatever special feature that was on the last DVD; it told why they shake the camera, or pan things half off the screen, and other things like fading techniques and blurring in order to emulate older series' for a more classic feel (like westerns, since it's a Space Western anyway.) I thought it was more 'realistic' feeling, and was surprised to learn that these techniques are now pretty much taboo in the industry.

Cha-Ka
06-16-2005, 10:57 AM
I would agree with you, but then they redid battlestar gallactica and really I think thats a show of the first order, deserving to be accounted as equal to star trek next generation, firefly, and Babylon 5.

Fair enough. I've been burned by scifi channel so often that I've ignored Battlestar so far. I'll give it a try when the first season hits DVD.

Tia
06-16-2005, 11:06 AM
Actually, that is not exactly true. I was not a big fan of those series, but I really liked Firefly.

It is mostly true. The shows have pretty much the same style, structure, and writing. For some people the settings made a difference. So it depends why you didn't like Buffy. But if you don't like Joss, you just wouldn't like him.

Anyway, I must say that I very highly doubt sci fi will pick up the show. Not because they don't want, but because for now Fox won't sell it. If Serenity makes it, they price will go up. Also according to some of the cast they have a 3 movies deal with Universal if Serenity succeeded.

So I guess you best bet is to hope Serenity will bomb. But then maybe sci fi wouldn't want it.

p.s. the new Battlestar Galactica is simply awsome. It was also NBC most watched new TV show.

Nesta
06-16-2005, 11:18 AM
Buffy and Angel = meh

Firefly = SHIT HOT

Also, the original, 2 hour premiere wasn't ever shown on TV, right?

Phades
06-16-2005, 11:20 AM
Fair enough. I've been burned by scifi channel so often that I've ignored Battlestar so far. I'll give it a try when the first season hits DVD.

The miniseries that precluded the series is on DVD now, you should check it out.

Cha-Ka
06-16-2005, 11:23 AM
Nice! I'll hit up the local rental shop this weekend.

Awwwww..... Geek Out! (duh duh duh duh) Geek Out!

PacerDawn
06-16-2005, 11:25 AM
Lexx was also a great show put on by Sci-Fi, and I feel it was extremely underrated. For all the hoopla over Farscape (the #1 show on the network at the time), I found myself looking forward to new episodes of Lexx way more. So yes, while they can screw up a once good series (like Sliders), they can also get it right sometimes.

Vulture
06-16-2005, 11:27 AM
First 2 hour TV showing where the Captain kicks the recalcitrant Merc into the Firefly's turbine after the merc refused to take a message.

That one scene said I had to watch this series. A calculated killing in such a cold fashion meant to me that Firefly was serious about itself.

Tia
06-16-2005, 11:31 AM
Lexx was also a great show put on by Sci-Fi, and I feel it was extremely underrated. For all the hoopla over Farscape (the #1 show on the network at the time), I found myself looking forward to new episodes of Lexx way more. So yes, while they can screw up a once good series (like Sliders), they can also get it right sometimes.

I agree Lexx was way awsome, and totally undertated.

First 2 hour TV showing where the Captain kicks the recalcitrant Merc into the Firefly's turbine after the merc refused to take a message.

That one scene said I had to watch this series. A calculated killing in such a cold fashion meant to me that Firefly was serious about itself.

I be very hard pressed to call Firefly serious. BSG... not that's a serious, and very morbid, show. Firefly is fun.

Heretic Machine
06-16-2005, 11:46 AM
Firstly, everything Joss touches is pure gold. Second, Scifi channel has made some great series over the years: Lexx, Farscape, SG-1 (the past few seasons),Good vs Evil (even though it aired on another channel too) and the Invisible Man all come to mind.

But, they've also screwed pretty much all of those shows... I don't even know what the hell they're doing with SG-1... It's turning into the Fargate....

DigitalFirefly
06-16-2005, 11:53 AM
If you havn't watched this show yet I highly suggest you do. I just hope they don't put it in a dumb timeslot, like the 2am Farscape rerun timeslot.

Deadend
06-16-2005, 12:05 PM
I liked watching Farscape, it brought me the feeling I kinda got from the old Star Wars, the awesome sense of adventure, and some great dialoge, Wash rules, hell every character is great.

DigitalFirefly
06-16-2005, 12:24 PM
if it wasn't for tivo i probably would have never watched farscape. last summer I tivo'd them every night and watched em all.

snubber
06-16-2005, 01:35 PM
I dunno...I LOVED Buffy...have all the seasons on DVD. But I just couldn't get into Firefly (and yes, I watched lots of episodes). I dunno, I guess I just didn't like the setting or characters or anything.

Liquidize105
06-16-2005, 01:52 PM
Hmmm..

Can I borrow somebody's firefly dvds to get a feel of what's so good about it? Avatar? Everlost? Fellas? ;)

Don't be shy :D

Heretic Machine
06-16-2005, 04:25 PM
I dunno...I LOVED Buffy...have all the seasons on DVD. But I just couldn't get into Firefly (and yes, I watched lots of episodes). I dunno, I guess I just didn't like the setting or characters or anything.

Heh.. I have all of Buffy/Angel/Firefly, among other Whedon junk, like Astonishing X-men.. :p

Zeal
06-16-2005, 05:51 PM
Forget this crap. I'd give ANYTHING to have Buffy or Angel back.

Blue
06-16-2005, 06:39 PM
Forget this crap. I'd give ANYTHING to have Buffy or Angel back.

Don't you feel, though, like they (Joss and others) were beginning to run out of ideas? I'm almost glad the shows ended when they did rather than dragging through a handful of useless seasons only to putter out in the end. Buffy ended with such a bang and the conclusion was so purposeful that it would almost have been a shame to let it finish any other way. I hate watching shows I love get towed through the mud when they don't realize it should have ended a while ago. Buffy - and Angel - wrapped up the "Buffyverse" so fittingingly that I would rather not have them back and remember them as they were.

Firefly, however, had its plug pulled way before its time.

Breezer
06-16-2005, 08:32 PM
I borrowed the DVD set from a friend and watched them in order. I really enjoyed most the episodes and was looking forward to the movie in Sept. Good news in that there is still hope, because it is all about the mighty dollar. If the networks see $$$ then there is a chance for a resurection. But like others sci-fi doesn't have a perfect record for me, so we will have to just wait and see.

Heretic Machine
06-17-2005, 05:09 AM
Well... I'd rather not see an end to the Buffyverse, especially with the way Angel ended, but I agree that both Buffy and Angel had pretty perfect runs for their stories to be played out. I'm not sure I'd even want another full series in the Buffyverse, but maybe a couple of mini-series or movies...

MosBen
06-17-2005, 06:09 AM
Though I would have liked another season of Buffy, I thought it played out fairly well. Angel, on the other hand, had lots of things they could do. I was skeptical of the office setting for season five, but there was so much great stuff going on in that season and so many places it could have gone. Even just one more season would have been cool, though I don't have any particular problems with how the show actually ended, as I thought it perfectly summed up what Angel was all about.

As to Firefly, I just can't understand people that don't like it. Anyone that says it was cliche, well, they're just crazy. Other than Buffy and Angel, there just haven't been any shows even remotely like Firefly in a long time, if ever. Some might think the show cheesy, but I think they're just missing the fact that the show never had, or tried to have, the hard edge to it that other shows, like Battlestar Galactica, have. It's a particular type of gritty, but not that kind. It's the good feeling lilt that gave the show it's character; that even though some serious things were happening in the universe, it never lost the sense of adventure, freedom, and exuberance that typified the series.

In short, it's unfortunate that some people never saw the show, and even more unfortunate that others saw it and didn't like it, because they missed out on possibly the best tv, or at the very least among the best tv, of the last decade.

Talanvor
06-17-2005, 06:53 AM
I will never forgive Sci-Fi for cancelling FarScape so they could buy the shit that is SG-1.

Mobeus Chronox
06-17-2005, 10:17 PM
I don't think there are new episodes. They are going to re-show the original season during the Friday night block that has Battlestar Galactica. I am pretty sure that is what I read somewhere. Either way, I am very glad to see it come back.

Can someone explain to me why someone like Fox would sit on a show like this when they know that they have a pretty decent interest in seeing it return to television? It just floors me when I see some of the crap they have on and yet they do nothing with this show. well.... ..nothing except dvd sales, a movie and letting Scifi run the original season.
i've come to believe that Fox has a death wish, canceling their decent programming and pushing crap in an attempt to commit broadcast suicide.