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fitbabits
04-19-2007, 06:51 AM
Official Press Release:

FOSTER CITY, Calif., April 19 -- Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) today announced its 2007 second-quarter software line-up for PLAYSTATION(R)3 (PS3(TM)), PSP(R) (PlayStation(R)Portable), and PlayStation(R)2 (PS2) computer entertainment systems.

More than 100 first- and third-party PS3, PSP and PlayStation 2 titles will launch during the next few months of 2007, bringing to consumers an impressively robust software line-up. The catalog encompasses the most popular game genres, featuring industry leading franchises as well as new intellectual properties that will appeal to game enthusiasts of any level. "Our second-quarter line-up of PS3, PSP and PlayStation 2 software titles demonstrates a continued commitment from both SCEA and third-party developers to the PlayStation family of products," said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing, SCEA. "We are excited by the content being developed by our partners, but are also looking forward to launching PlayStation-branded exclusive games created by our own worldwide studios this quarter and throughout the rest of 2007."

In addition to disc-based games available at retailers nationwide, SCEA ushered in a new way for consumers to get games with the launch of PS3 last fall. PLAYSTATION(R)Store, accessible through the PLAYSTATION(R)Network, allows for the downloading of a wide variety of games, from new original intellectual property playable only on PS3, such as Calling All Cars(TM), to old-school classic PlayStation games for PSP. Here is a rundown of what will be available at retail and on the PLAYSTATION Store this quarter:
Continues below...

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 06:59 AM
Continues...

PS3

Key Titles

Available Through Retail Channels

F.E.A.R.(TM) - Vivendi
Spider-Man 3 - Activision
Ninja Gaiden(R) Sigma - Tecmo
MLB 07 The Show(TM) - Sony Computer Entertainment America
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - Disney Interactive Studios
The Darkness(R) - 2K Games
The Bigs - 2K Sports
TRANSFORMERS: The Game - Activision

Available Through the PLAYSTATION Store

Calling All Cars(TM) - Sony Computer Entertainment America
Championship Sprint(TM) - Sony Online Entertainment
Gauntlet II(TM) - Sony Online Entertainment
Joust(R) - Sony Online Entertainment
Mortal Kombat II(R) - Sony Online Entertainment
Rampage(TM) World Tour - Sony Online Entertainment
Super Puzzle Fighter(TM) II HD Remix - Capcom
Rampart(R) - Sony Online Entertainment

PSP

Key Titles

Alien Syndrome(TM) - Sega
Crazy Taxi(TM): Fare Wars - Sega
CRUSH(TM) - Sega
Dungeon Maker: Hunting Ground - XSEED JKS
FINAL FANTASY(R) - Square Enix
FINAL FANTASY II(R) - Square Enix
Harvest Moon(R) Boy & Girl - Natsume
Ridge Racer 2 - Namco
Test Drive(R) Unlimited - Atari
Tom Clancy's Ranbow Six(R) Vegas - Ubisoft
Valhalla Knights - XSEED JKS

PlayStation 2

Key Titles

DAWN of MANA(TM) - Square Enix
Fantastic Four(TM) -
Rise of the Silver Surfer - 2K Games
.hack(R)//G.U. (TM) Vol. 2: Reminisce(TM) - Namco
Harry Potter
AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX(TM) - Electronic Arts, Inc.
Lara Croft Tomb Raider(R): Anniversary - Eidos
Manhunt 2 - Rockstar
NCAA(R) Football 08 - Electronic Arts, Inc.
NARUTO(TM): Ultimate Ninja(TM) 2 - Namco
Odin Sphere(R) - Atlus
Ratatouille - THQ
Shrek The Third(TM) - Activision
Spider-man 3 - Activision
Tony Hawk's(TM) Downhill Jam - Activision
Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. continues to redefine the entertainment lifestyle with its PlayStation(R) and PS one(R) game console, the PlayStation(R)2 computer entertainment system, the PSP(R) (PlayStation(R)Portable) system, and the ground-breaking PLAYSTATION(R)3 (PS3(TM)) computer entertainment system.

Recognized as the undisputed industry leader, Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. markets the PlayStation family of products and develops, publishes, markets, and distributes software for the PS one game console, the PlayStation 2 computer entertainment system, the PSP system and the PS3 system for the North American market. Based in Foster City, Calif. Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc. serves as headquarters for all North American operations and is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.

lockwoodx
04-19-2007, 07:02 AM
Hmmm pretty mainstream blah titles. Nothing too unique that catches my eye of intrest. Might as well just have MTv develop thier own console and market it with this kind of mediocre turn out.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 07:03 AM
Wow, that's a pretty weak PS3 showing on the retail front.

Arglor
04-19-2007, 07:03 AM
wow. didn't know about Gauntlet II. Thats kewl.

Vandenh
04-19-2007, 07:03 AM
Dungeon Maker: Hunting Ground sound the most interesting IMHO.

Scramble
04-19-2007, 07:05 AM
Meh, I really expected more games to come out on the PS3.

PSP Ridge Racer 2

This game has been out for 6 months now. It better not be a Platinum re-release used to bolster the release numbers. That's kinda low.

wyeast
04-19-2007, 07:06 AM
To be fair, summer '06 was pretty damn dry for 360's, too. Thank god we had Chromehounds. :D

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 07:07 AM
To be fair, summer '06 was pretty damn dry for 360's, too. Thank god we had Chromehounds. :D
And Dead Rising.

Arglor
04-19-2007, 07:07 AM
Hmmm pretty mainstream blah titles. Nothing too unique that catches my eye of intrest. Might as well just have MTv develop thier own console and market it with this kind of mediocre turn out.

Ninja Gaiden is mediocre? :rolleyes: I guess its like oblivion and becomes mediocre because of it's history on the xbox right?

Ok so none of the big names are coming out, but it is just a three month span of time. I think it is a decent line up, and whats more is i'm interested in the downloadable games.

Morratut
04-19-2007, 07:13 AM
Yes i'll have one copy of Ninja Gaiden Sigma please. Awesome news. Lets hope its at the start of the second quarter. When does the 2/4 start by the way?

civil_dead
04-19-2007, 07:19 AM
And Dead Rising.
And Saint's Row.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 07:21 AM
And Dead Rising.
That was a Q3 game last year. This list is only Q2.

Royal Fool
04-19-2007, 07:21 AM
Spider-Man 3, Transformers, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and The Darkness are really the only noteworthy PS3 games there IMO.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 07:22 AM
And Saint's Row.
And Oblivion. And GRAW.

antoniogaud
04-19-2007, 07:25 AM
X360 might have been dry last year, but they had no competition. This year the PS3 will face Forza 2, Mass Effect head-on. OUCH!

Majster Wichajster
04-19-2007, 07:26 AM
I would be interested in playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma. I would also be interested in having enough money to actually realize that desire.

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 07:26 AM
To be fair, summer '06 was pretty damn dry for 360's, too. Thank god we had Chromehounds. :D

To be truthful, I don't really care how '06 was, as '07 is where we are at the moment. While the summer is always dry for all systems, I can say there's nothing on that list for the PS3 that makes me want to get one before the end of the year.

Harvest moon for the PSP will get bought, and Naruto: Ultimate Ninja 2 for the PS2 will get picked up. Sure it's a Naruto title but the game feels like Smash Brothers and it's one of the few games that I've been able to get non Naruto fans into playing when I picked up the first Ultimate Ninja title for 19.99. 30+ playable people and more Smash Brothers style combat and crazy super moves make for a title worth picking up.

Now I would like to see what the 360 line up is for the same period so I can see how my pocketbook is going to be hurting for the next few months.

Kamalot
04-19-2007, 07:27 AM
The 2nd quarter is gonna rock for the PS3.

F.E.A.R.
Spider-Man 3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MLB 07 The Show
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
The Darkness
The Bigs
TRANSFORMERS: The Game

I mean, I bet a lot of these are exclusive and have all kinds of special PS3-only content. Spider Man 3? Isn't that where you can pretend the Sixaxis is the green goblin's floating platform? And the game's logo will match the same font on your PS3.

Truly, a gaming experience you can't find anywhere else, that can only be brought to you on Bluray and Cell. I bet that the 360's 2nd quarter of this year does not look any better...

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 07:30 AM
The 2nd quarter is gonna rock for the PS3.

F.E.A.R.
Spider-Man 3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MLB 07 The Show
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
The Darkness
The Bigs
TRANSFORMERS: The Game

I mean, I bet a lot of these are exclusive and have all kinds of special PS3-only content. Spider Man 3? Isn't that where you can pretend the Sixaxis is the green goblin's floating platform? And the game's logo will match the same font on your PS3.

Truly, a gaming experience you can't find anywhere else, that can only be brought to you on Bluray and Cell. I bet that the 360's 2nd quarter of this year does not look any better...
Wow, you make a post like that, and still wonder why you're called a troll......

Vandenh
04-19-2007, 07:32 AM
Now I would like to see what the 360 line up is for the same period
There really is not much competition. Most of the same ones plus:

Forza Motorsport 2
Shadowrun
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
And maybe Overlord and Two Worlds

lockwoodx
04-19-2007, 07:33 AM
The 2nd quarter is gonna rock for the PS3.

F.E.A.R.
Spider-Man 3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MLB 07 The Show
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
The Darkness
The Bigs
TRANSFORMERS: The Game

I mean, I bet a lot of these are exclusive and have all kinds of special PS3-only content. Spider Man 3? Isn't that where you can pretend the Sixaxis is the green goblin's floating platform? And the game's logo will match the same font on your PS3.

Truly, a gaming experience you can't find anywhere else, that can only be brought to you on Bluray and Cell. I bet that the 360's 2nd quarter of this year does not look any better...



Wow!! I wonder what will come out if I pull the string in his back even harder this time. :D

lockwoodx
04-19-2007, 07:34 AM
Ninja Gaiden is mediocre? :rolleyes: I guess its like oblivion and becomes mediocre because of it's history on the xbox right?

Ok so none of the big names are coming out, but it is just a three month span of time. I think it is a decent line up, and whats more is i'm interested in the downloadable games.


Ninja Gaiden is the caboose of that ass parade.

Kamalot
04-19-2007, 07:35 AM
Wow, you make a post like that, and still wonder why you're called a troll......
What? Are you kidding? Have you seen the screen shots of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/742/742505/img_4439331.html)? I saw them in Game Informer and they are incredible. It looks like Johnny Dep, dressed up as a pirate! Like watching a movie. :eek:

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 07:36 AM
There really is not much competition. Most of the same ones plus:

Forza Motorsport 2
Shadowrun
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
And maybe Overlord and Two Worlds

Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia
WarTech: Senko no Ronde

Well those, plus these three games stand out for me. Monster Madness is kinda hit or miss but I loved the Hunter games as well as Smash TV type games. Playing the demo I was kinda enjoying what was there.

Grimgrock
04-19-2007, 07:49 AM
interesting information would be how many of those are exclusive Sony titles. Titles that aren't launching on all platforms or won't show up a few months later on others. I know, for example that HP &tOotP isn't exclusive. F.E.A.R. isn't exclusive...

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 07:50 AM
interesting information would be how many of those are exclusive Sony titles. Titles that aren't launching on all platforms or won't show up a few months later on others. I know, for example that HP &tOotP isn't exclusive. F.E.A.R. isn't exclusive...
The only retail exclusive is MLB The Show 07. I would have said NG Sigma, but it's a remake of the old Xbox classic.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 07:53 AM
So, just for all of those out there complaining about a weak Q2 lineup for the PS3, anyone have a Q2 release list for the Wii (to compare newly launched consoles). How about one for the 360 from Q2 of last year? What was there, Table Tennis and Uno?

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 07:54 AM
So, just for all of those out there complaining about a weak Q2 lineup for the PS3, anyone have a Q2 release list for the Wii (to compare newly launched consoles). How about one for the 360 from Q2 of last year? What was there, Table Tennis and Uno?
All you really had to do was look at the replies before posting. You're better than this.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 07:59 AM
All you really had to do was look at the replies before posting. You're better than this.
I have been. The 360 games people have listed as Q2 (Dead Rising, Saint's Row, etc....) were all Q3 games. The others listed were Q2 games this year. I have yet to see anyone list what came out during the same period in the 360s first year, or what the Wii has planned for this same time period.

Silversmith
04-19-2007, 08:01 AM
To me the 360 does have a stronger lineup than the PS3. It continues on the solid delivery of games. Alot of PS3 games are Movie Ports. Very weak, Sony. Q3 seems to be the stage setter for the next year. PS3 really need a killer app. Confidence is an all time low for the company

Kamalot
04-19-2007, 08:04 AM
So, just for all of those out there complaining about a weak Q2 lineup for the PS3, anyone have a Q2 release list for the Wii (to compare newly launched consoles). How about one for the 360 from Q2 of last year? What was there, Table Tennis and Uno?
Man. Lucky for Microsoft they got their dry spell out of the way last year.

Why would anyone compare the current Quarter 2 2007 PS3 lineup against the previous Quarter 2 2006 360 lineup? Lets compare reality.

Who can make up a comprehensive list of what'll be available for all of the systems, and make exclusives bold?

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 08:06 AM
Man. Lucky for Microsoft they got their dry spell out of the way last year.

Why would anyone compare the current Quarter 2 2007 PS3 lineup against the previous Quarter 2 2006 360 lineup? Lets compare reality.

Who can make up a comprehensive list of what'll be available for all of the systems, and make exclusives bold?
Mostly because people that understand a market know that a system that's within it's first year takes time to build up titles. Then again, that takes logical thought, not trolling. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. :rolleyes:

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 08:07 AM
I have been. The 360 games people have listed as Q2 (Dead Rising, Saint's Row, etc....) were all Q3 games. The others listed were Q2 games this year. I have yet to see anyone list what came out during the same period in the 360s first year, or what the Wii has planned for this same time period.
Off the top of my head then:

Oblivion
The Outfit
Rumble Roses
GRAW
FIFA World Cup
Battlefield II: Modern Combat
Blazing Angels
Burnout Revenge
College Hoops 2K6
Far Cry Instincts Predator
Hitman: Blood Money
Moto GP 06
Table Tennis
Top Spin 2

The above are only retail games.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 08:11 AM
Off the top of my head then:

Oblivion
The Outfit
Rumble Roses
GRAW
FIFA World Cup
Battlefield II: Modern Combat
Blazing Angels
Burnout Revenge
College Hoops 2K6
Far Cry Instincts Predator
Hitman: Blood Money
Moto GP 06
Table Tennis
Top Spin 2

The above are only retail games.
So ports or mediocre games. That's pretty much exactly what the PS3 is getting this year. Good to see it matches up. Thanks.

silv
04-19-2007, 08:12 AM
Mostly because people that understand a market know that a system that's within it's first year takes time to build up titles. Then again, that takes logical thought, not trolling. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. :rolleyes:

Mostly because when actual people compare what system to buy, they look at what is currently available to them and what is coming out soon.

They don't say to themselves that since the PS3 got delayed, they have to compare the XBox360 games from last year to be fair.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 08:14 AM
So ports or mediocre games. Thanks.
Tough crowd. You asked, I answered.

Oblivion is neither mediocre nor a port.
GRAW is neither mediocre nor a port.
Moto GP 06 is neither mediocre nor a port.
Table Tennis is neither mediocre nor a port.
Top Spin 2 is neither mediocre nor a port.
Hitman: Blood Money is neither mediocre nor a port.

Paranoia
04-19-2007, 08:17 AM
PS3

Key Titles

Available Through Retail Channels

F.E.A.R.(TM) - Vivendi
Spider-Man 3 - Activision
Ninja Gaiden(R) Sigma - Tecmo
MLB 07 The Show(TM) - Sony Computer Entertainment America
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - Disney Interactive Studios
The Darkness(R) - 2K Games
The Bigs - 2K Sports
TRANSFORMERS: The Game - Activision

Those are key titles for the PS3?

I'm so not looking to get a PS3 this year!

Morratut
04-19-2007, 08:18 AM
Lol this got into a shitty PS3 vs 360 contest quickly :D

Yes the 360 has more titles out between now and august. PS3 is still a baby though. The 360 is horny teenager :p

PS3 has got Ninja Gaiden Sigma though. It's not just a remake either. It's going to be the best looking game on the PS3.
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0406.1421.46109.htm?Page=1

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 08:20 AM
Tough crowd. You asked, I answered.

Oblivion is neither mediocre nor a port.
GRAW is neither mediocre nor a port.
Moto GP 06 is neither mediocre nor a port.
Table Tennis is neither mediocre nor a port.
Top Spin 2 is neither mediocre nor a port.
Hitman: Blood Money is neither mediocre nor a port.
Oblivion is a port just as much as the PS3 version is.
Moto GP isn't what I'd call a great game that people really were looking for.
Table Tennis? My god that game got more hype than a simple Ping Pong game ever deserved.
Top Spin 2, once again, not a great game people would be excited about.
Hitman : Blood Money was a port.

EDIT : My point is, Q2 for a new console is going to be very underwhelming, regardless of what system you're talking about. Late Q3 and Q4 is when you're really going to start seeing the big guns come out, just like you did with the 360 this year. Harping on the fact that the PS3 (or Wii for that matter) doesn't have anything amazing coming out over the course of the next 2 1/2 months shows an ignorance as to how this industry is structured with releases, especially when talking about new hardware.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 08:21 AM
Oblivion is a port just as much as the PS3 version is.
Moto GP isn't what I'd call a great game that people really were looking for.
Table Tennis? My god that game got more hype than a simple Ping Pong game ever deserved.
Top Spin 2, once again, not a great game people would be excited about.
Hitman : Blood Money was a port.
You should stop now. You're sounding like a spoiled brat who's just crapped in his nappy.

karak
04-19-2007, 08:22 AM
Wait. Thats not ALL the games for the PS3 right? Isn't this just first party games. Because if its not MAN I am going to be mad. I held onto this thing thinking alot was going to be released

J3DI
04-19-2007, 08:26 AM
Mostly because people that understand a market know that a system that's within it's first year takes time to build up titles. Then again, that takes logical thought, not trolling. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. :rolleyes:


Why would it take time to build up titles when the system has been in development for how long? Wasn't it supposed to release around the same time as the 360? It was only delayed because of Blu-ray right? The games for the system are virtually the same (graphically), Sony doesn't need time to build up. We should be comparing 2Q 2007 for each system.

Why is it everyone makes these "when 360 launched" excuses for Sony? If it were MS people would be saying how doomed the system is and blah blah blah. I understand we have Sony fans here and even a Sony Defense Force, but comparing the past of an apple to the future of an orange...

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2091/madnesskj2.jpg
I know its old but I couldn't resist

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 08:26 AM
Mostly because people that understand a market know that a system that's within it's first year takes time to build up titles. Then again, that takes logical thought, not trolling. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. :rolleyes:

I used to look at things like this really. But then I understood that it means very little right now how sales were for the 360 last year when looking at this year. Another thing though is that the 360 didn't really have to have anything great out. They were the only next gen system out at the time so why push anything that major during the summer.

Unlike the PS3 that is up against not only the 360, but the Wii. Perhaps Sony is waiting for the holiday's to toss out major titles. But still as someone that looks at what is here now, the 360's summer line up does stand out more than the PS3 and again Sony has yet to give me a reason to buy a PS3.

At least when the 360 was out and those titles were around I enjoyed Battlefield, Top Spin 2, and Table Tennis. If the PS3 was the only system around this summer then alot of those titles might appeal to me, but because I have the 360 as an option and alot of those titles listed are on the 360 also I don't need to pick up the PS3 version of these titles. No matter what little extras they want to pack in Spider-Man 3.

Kamalot
04-19-2007, 08:26 AM
According to IGN:

Wii
Wii has the following games coming out between April and June
http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html
Bionicle Heroes
Heatseeker
Legend of the Dragon
Spider-Man 3
Shrek the Third
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Escape from Bug Island
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Mario Party 8
Surf's Up
Tamagotchi: Party On!
Chicken Shoot
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Scarface: The World is Yours
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Sims 2: Pets, The
Transformers: The Game
Bigs, The
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Cosmic Family
Driver: Parallel Lines
23 total
7 Exclusives

360
360 has the following games coming out between April and June
http://360.ign.com/index/release.html
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Spider-Man 3
Shrek the Third
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia
Two Worlds
Mass Effect
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Surf's Up
WarTech: Senko no Ronde
Forza Motorsport 2
Shadowrun
Rogue Warrior
Call of Juarez
Tenchu Z
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Hour of Victory
DiRT
Transformers: The Game
Bigs , The
Darkness, The
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Overlord
23 total
11 Exclusives

PS3
PS3 has the following games coming out between April and June
http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html
F.E.A.R.
Shrek the Third
MLB '07: The Show
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
Surf's Up
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Transformers: The Game
Bigs , The
Darkness, The
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
13 total
1 exclusive

I included games on the list with a release date and day, and did not include downloadable titles to my knowledge. Bolded exclusives represent titles that are exclusive to the console when compared to current-gen and previous-gen consoles.

I’m sure someone will complain about such-and-such a title being exclusive or one I forgot, or one that shouldn’t be on the list. It isn’t science, but a rough overall perspective. Enjoy it for what it is. If you want a better list, feel free to make one.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 08:27 AM
You should stop now. You're sounding like a spoiled brat who's just crapped in his nappy.
Read the edit. Spoiled brat nothing, you can build up an underwhelming and port filled (with the exception of Oblivion) Q2 for the 360 last year all you want, the fact remains that for any newly released console, it's not going to be great. Just because you choose to look at those 360 releases last year through rose colored glasses doesn't change anything other than your perception

Kamalot
04-19-2007, 08:29 AM
Read the edit. Spoiled brat nothing, you can build up an underwhelming and port filled (with the exception of Oblivion) Q2 for the 360 last year all you want, the fact remains that for any newly released console, it's not going to be great. Just because you choose to look at those 360 releases last year through rose colored glasses doesn't change anything other than your perception
What the 360 had going on last year during Q2 has little bearing on what the PS3 and Xbox 360 have going on this year for Q2.

You can time-shift with your Tivo.
You can't time-shift retail.

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 08:32 AM
Read the edit. Spoiled brat nothing, you can build up an underwhelming and port filled (with the exception of Oblivion) Q2 for the 360 last year all you want, the fact remains that for any newly released console, it's not going to be great. Just because you choose to look at those 360 releases last year through rose colored glasses doesn't change anything other than your perception

Really though can the PS3 afford to not have anything that great? I can understand the 360 during that time, they didn't have to have anything great as they were the only system out that was next gen. But looking at the PS3 I can't just buy that excuse that, "oh well it's a new system so it's expected."

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 08:35 AM
Really though can the PS3 afford to not have anything that great? I can understand the 360 during that time, they didn't have to have anything great as they were the only system out that was next gen. But looking at the PS3 I can't just buy that excuse that, "oh well it's a new system so it's expected."
Nope, it isn't good. It's just the way it is with new consoles. They're really going to need to push their Q3 and Q4 releases hard, becuase while those look to be a hell of a lot better than whats coming now, their still going to have stiff competition.

lockwoodx
04-19-2007, 08:35 AM
You can time-shift with your Tivo.
You can't time-shift retail.


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7528/timeparadoxhr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wyeast
04-19-2007, 08:37 AM
And Dead Rising.
Forgot about that. I guess I was too busy in the CH garage to pick up Dead Rising. :o

KingGorilla
04-19-2007, 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by wyeast
To be fair, summer '06 was pretty damn dry for 360's, too. Thank god we had Chromehounds.
And Dead Rising.

Why do you two hate yourselves so much? "Thank god that baseball landed on my left testicle."

wyeast
04-19-2007, 08:50 AM
Hey, I *liked* Chromehounds. :p

KingGorilla
04-19-2007, 08:53 AM
You CONVINCED yourself that you liked it, after 100 hours of GRAW and 200 of Oblivion you can do crazy things. I stripped naked and ran around Milwaukee for a week singing nursery rhymes because of that...you bought Chromehounds. Now who is the crazy one there?

NeoSuplex
04-19-2007, 09:03 AM
That's easy. You. One guy bought a mech game, the other showed Milwaukee why he's so keen to boost his E-Peen.

And to Gorvi: I don't know what list you saw, but there was nothing mediocre or port filled about it. Even if there was, that doesn't really have shit to do with the simple fact that a gamer relying on the PS3 as his sole source of gaming is seriously missing out. I thought I remembered you saying you had a 360, but if not, I can understand your reaction... Keep you ears plugged and maybe you can convince yourself that The Show is the greatest experience of all time and Mass Effect is but a passing dream....

EDIT: Also, this is the fist I heard of War Tech... a fighting game (which the 360 is really lacking), a Shmup, AND a mech game! How have I not heard about this until now! I really need to get around to making my D-Pads usable!
Why'd you have to go and dis the hounds, man...

Panthera
04-19-2007, 09:05 AM
I dunno, I just got a 360 a month ago and I enjoy Chromehounds more than Gears of War.

Philonious
04-19-2007, 09:07 AM
Seriously Fits, you should have locked this down the second you posted it. It is news, but nothing but trouble. It is a shitty list, but I think everyone agrees that Sony rushed to get the PS3 out when they did because they feared slaughter at the hands of Microsoft. So guess what? No software support. It sucks, and is the biggest complaint about the PS3.

The 360 had some great games launch Q1 last year, but the summer was a bit of a dry spell too... Not this dry though. This is ugly. This is so ugly I am regretting picking up my PS3 when I did. Hopefully they neuter BC so that I can feel justified in my purchase.

wyeast
04-19-2007, 09:07 AM
Keen to boost his e-peen. :D

Honestly, I was apprehensive about CH because I thought my friends would be turned off by how involved the mech-building process was. Turns out I was totally wrong on that. ;)

And you wanna hear crazy? I don't own Oblivion. Haven't played a single minute.

NOW THAT'S FOOKIN' CRAZY! :eek: :D

Wslove
04-19-2007, 09:10 AM
First off King, Chromehounds was great when it worked and you had a good team. Unfortunatly the net code happened to be written by a thousand monkeys banging away on keyboards. I heard they also put a complete version of Hamlet in comments. But since comments aren't compiled I guess we'll never know.

Second. This line up makes me hate my PS3 all the more now. The only good game on it is Motorstorm. The only good games coming out for it within the coming months are ports, although I will likely gamefly Spider-Man 3 for it. I can't sell it back for full retail price because there are a million brand new ones sitting on the shelves. So there it sits, in my room, mocking me in the voices of Ken and Kaz. And this makes me a sad panda.

Meanwhile, at least my beautiful 360 gives me much love and games. Thank you, wonderful white box, without you I would have no fun.

I'd really like to see the SDF boys justify a purchase of a PS3 now. I tell everyone...EVVVEERRRYYYYOOONNNEEEE!!!!1!!.... that asks me what they should get to get a 360. There is no way, no frakking way, to justify a PS3 purchase right now. Not Blu-Ray, and definitly not the games. End mini-rant.

BadCRC
04-19-2007, 09:12 AM
Mgs4??????! Wtf??!

Arglor
04-19-2007, 09:15 AM
I'm so glad you guys jumped on sony for releasing this press release, because damn. I mean g-damn. How dare they give this list of ps3 and ps2 and psp games and not have a AAA title on it. How dare they.

This is the low of the low. Easily the worst thing Sony has ever done. I eagerly await a microsoft/nintendo controlled gaming world where I can pay four dollars a day to turn my console on to assist MS in covering the fees for allowing my avatar to login to their networks.

You know... it takes their server bandwith, testing, system research, etc to cover my logging in. It is easily explainable why you should pay to log in to their servers. It is what it is.

/end sarcasim.

Silversmith
04-19-2007, 09:17 AM
Mgs4??????! Wtf??!

That is up for debate, as Sony and Microsoft are having a cold war over it. Just speculation

Philonious
04-19-2007, 09:18 AM
I'd like to point out, for people who don't seem to get it: Q3 starts in what, July? We weren't really expecting much before then anyway, this just sucks because we were hoping for something. If nothing else in Q3 and Q4 we get GTAIV on October 16th. Possibly Heavenly Sword and MGS4. It isn't quite DOOM, yet. But this is ugly.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 09:19 AM
That's easy. You. One guy bought a mech game, the other showed Milwaukee why he's so keen to boost his E-Peen.

And to Gorvi: I don't know what list you saw, but there was nothing mediocre or port filled about it. Even if there was, that doesn't really have shit to do with the simple fact that a gamer relying on the PS3 as his sole source of gaming is seriously missing out. I thought I remembered you saying you had a 360, but if not, I can understand your reaction... Keep you ears plugged and maybe you can convince yourself that The Show is the greatest experience of all time and Mass Effect is but a passing dream....

EDIT: Also, this is the fist I heard of War Tech... a fighting game (which the 360 is really lacking), a Shmup, AND a mech game! How have I not heard about this until now! I really need to get around to making my D-Pads usable!
Why'd you have to go and dis the hounds, man...
Actually, I don't plan on picking up any of those games, especially not at $60. There's a few PSP games I'm interested in over the summer, but I've got Oblivion and a sizeable backlog to keep me busy for gaming for the next few months. Hell, I still need to pick up Twilight Princess and Okami.....

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 09:23 AM
I'd like to point out, for people who don't seem to get it: Q3 starts in what, July? We weren't really expecting much before then anyway, this just sucks because we were hoping for something. If nothing else in Q3 and Q4 we get GTAIV on October 16th. Possibly Heavenly Sword and MGS4. It isn't quite DOOM, yet. But this is ugly.

While people were not expecting much, perhaps they should? Why should I pick up a PS3 this summer? What do I have to look forward to at the moment that would not want me to wait till the end of the year to see if something good might come out.

Looking at the 360 line up for the summer, I could see a few reasons to plop down money for the system. Also the longer the PS3 goes without something that makes people want to buy the system, the more people will plot and forcast doom for the system.

Now I fully understand that as games come out the system will sell itself, but that's still sometime away from the looks of it.

Vanthar
04-19-2007, 09:24 AM
I love how people extend this second quarter lineup to "LOOKS LIKE NOTHING TO PLAY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR!!!"

PXG 360
04-19-2007, 09:26 AM
I got a week ban from PS3 Forums because I told some dumbassed kid that Ninja Gaiden Sigma wasn't such a "new" game. For fuck's sake its the THIRD iteration of the damn game! Big whoop for the dual swords and Rachel playability! Fanboys...

51|RandoM
04-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Wow, you make a post like that, and still wonder why you're called a troll......

he doesn't wonder at all, this *is* his favorite videogame.

In other news, Summer continues, just like it always has in the land of consoles.

I am finding the urge to just put in the ohnos.gif in each Sony thread to save everybody an awful lot of time.

PXG 360
04-19-2007, 09:30 AM
You should stop now. You're sounding like a spoiled brat who's just crapped in his nappy.

I FUCKING CHOKED WHEN I READ THIS!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Rune_74
04-19-2007, 09:32 AM
So ports or mediocre games. That's pretty much exactly what the PS3 is getting this year. Good to see it matches up. Thanks.

Your an idiot. I just don't even know how to argue with you. When you go and buy a car do you compare a car from this year to a car from last year and say to yourself gee its ok that it does not have as much stuff because the car last year did the same thing. I'm willing to bet when the xbox was released you compared the ps2 library at the time to the xbox.

The ps3 launched LATE its sony's fault get over it and quit your whining.

Hagetaka
04-19-2007, 09:32 AM
So ports or mediocre games. That's pretty much exactly what the PS3 is getting this year. Good to see it matches up. Thanks.

Hey, whoa... take it back. Moto GP '06 is a damn fine game. Just because you dont like motorcycle racing doesnt mean you have to hate on it.

reptilezero
04-19-2007, 09:33 AM
wow. it's like middle school and the whole snes vs. genesis debate. lame. i don't know what the hell happened to the discussions this site, but they are starting to really suck.

Morangie
04-19-2007, 09:33 AM
Why would it take time to build up titles when the system has been in development for how long? Wasn't it supposed to release around the same time as the 360? It was only delayed because of Blu-ray right? The games for the system are virtually the same (graphically), Sony doesn't need time to build up. We should be comparing 2Q 2007 for each system.

Why is it everyone makes these "when 360 launched" excuses for Sony? If it were MS people would be saying how doomed the system is and blah blah blah. I understand we have Sony fans here and even a Sony Defense Force, but comparing the past of an apple to the future of an orange...

Because since the 20gb PS3 was dropped they can't say "The PS3 is $500!" anymore. For the love of god man, how can Gorvi and his posse defend Sony if you expect them to use reason!?!

sprankton
04-19-2007, 09:49 AM
I got my PS3 (thank you ebay) this week with Resistance and MotorStorm from gamefly, and I must say... after playing both they went right back in the mailbox so I can get my pokemans next week. I spent day with both and out the door they went. Such a bummer.

This list makes me a sad sad sad panda indeed. I guess it will have to be late summer until I use my PS3 again (cept for Folding which is fucking awesome).

Philonious
04-19-2007, 10:05 AM
While people were not expecting much, perhaps they should? Why should I pick up a PS3 this summer? What do I have to look forward to at the moment that would not want me to wait till the end of the year to see if something good might come out.

We shouldn't expect more because they would have announced something by now, I think everyone was already aware that we were waiting until August for anything to come out. The reality of it does suck more. If you already have a 360 there is absolutely no reason to pick up a PS3 just yet, if you don't have a 360 and you're going to pick up a PS3 anyway there are some entertaining games available.

Virtual Machine
04-19-2007, 10:07 AM
Development takes time - shock gasp!

Wait until 2008 - you'll see some crazy shit on the PS3.

Of course you'll also see some crazy shit on the xbox360.

The Wii will still suck.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 10:11 AM
Development takes time - shock gasp!

Wait until 2008 - you'll see some crazy shit on the PS3.

Of course you'll also see some crazy shit on the xbox360.

The Wii will still suck.
Development does take time, but the PS3 has had one whole year 'extra' of potential development time thanks to it's late launch.

Yes, crazy shit on the PS3 in 2008. Maybe it'll still cost $600.

Yes, crazy shit on the Xbox 360 in 2008. If everyone's 360 lasts that long.

The Wii doesn't suck, and probably still won't in 2008.

Sandman
04-19-2007, 10:16 AM
You know, that big list that Kamalot posted, there are no Wii games I want, 3 PS3 games I want and about 5 360 games I want.

And I would consider Ninja Gaiden Sigma an exclusive...sure there have been two versions of the game on xbox before but this seems different enough to be an exclusive.

TheFlyingOrc
04-19-2007, 10:18 AM
Because since the 20gb PS3 was dropped they can't say "The PS3 is $500!" anymore. For the love of god man, how can Gorvi and his posse defend Sony if you expect them to use reason!?!

I'll defend Gorvi. While I've found him to be pissed off and not reasonable in this thread, he's usually much less a member of the SDF, and more or a guy who likes Sony games best.

Now, if wanna talk 51, Rein, Sandman, or Siraris, that's a different story.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 10:19 AM
Your an idiot. I just don't even know how to argue with you. When you go and buy a car do you compare a car from this year to a car from last year and say to yourself gee its ok that it does not have as much stuff because the car last year did the same thing. I'm willing to bet when the xbox was released you compared the ps2 library at the time to the xbox.

The ps3 launched LATE its sony's fault get over it and quit your whining.
And fuck you very much too, asshole. See, I can do name calling too, aren't we mature? If you'd try to actually look, all I'm saying is that it's a new console that doesn't have games coming out for it in a rush yet, the only reason the 360 was used as a comparison is because it's the most recent console to have a launch. The Wii doesn't have that many games either, but we don't see the same trollish responses to Wii threads for the most part, because they're not Sony.

Hey, whoa... take it back. Moto GP '06 is a damn fine game. Just because you dont like motorcycle racing doesnt mean you have to hate on it.
That was worded poorly on my part. It would have been better to say Moto GP is a more niche game, not something that you're going to have you're average gamer really getting excited about. Not that it's not a good game in it's own right, though.
For the love of god man, how can Gorvi and his posse defend Sony if you expect them to use reason!?!
Actually, I'm trying to use reason. I'd say the same thing in a Wii thread, it's a new console, you're typically going to see a lot of dry patches throughout the first year.

bapenguin
04-19-2007, 10:21 AM
Damn it. I want something good to play on my PS3 besides PS2 games. At least their online offering looks solid.

Mashidar
04-19-2007, 10:25 AM
You know, that big list that Kamalot posted, there are no Wii games I want, 3 PS3 games I want and about 5 360 games I want.

And I would consider Ninja Gaiden Sigma an exclusive...sure there have been two versions of the game on xbox before but this seems different enough to be an exclusive.

Well I'll agree here, the only Wii game that I would want is Mario Party 8 but other than that there's nothing I really want for the Wii. But I would still pick up a system once I have the chance to find one and extra funding for one.

I don't have a PS3, but that does not mean I don't want one in the future. On that list there is only two titles that interest me for different reasons. Spider-Man 3 for the extra that the game has, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Only because of the extras on the title. Regardless though neither of those titles make me want to pick up a system.

I do own a 360, and there are at least 7 games on that list that I am really interested in. I'll toss in spider-man 3 for the 360, because while the PS3 version might have the extra feature in it, I have a 360 and still would get the game. Now if I had a PS3, i might pick it up for that system, but achievements also kinda factor in for me.

Snipee
04-19-2007, 10:26 AM
Well I have to say that I'm very weary now. I was going to get a ps3 here in a few weeks. Looks like a waste of money atm tho. Ill just stick with my ps2 wii and 360 until they have something substancial to offer. Im very pleased with my 360 game collection. I also support sony, nintendo and microsoft. But not when sony gives me nothing special to work with. Im very disapointed.

copasetic
04-19-2007, 10:29 AM
You guys need to look at this economically as it is a bit unfair to compare the two line-ups on the same field. It doesn't matter how long these developers have had to put together their games; the publishers don't want them released right now. Would you rather sell a game to a system with an install base of one million or wait a year when it will have grown in terms of millions? The answer is obvious, which is exactly why the 360 games are much better this Q2 than last Q2. For its first Q2 line-up it's really not that bad.

ps. Why do you keep bringing up games that were not released in Q2 for the 360? I don't see Gorvi bringing up Resistance or Tekken.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 10:30 AM
ps. Why do you keep bringing up games that were not released in Q2 for the 360? I don't see Gorvi bringing up Resistance or Tekken.
The games I listed for Gorvi were all released in Q2, 2006:


Oblivion
The Outfit
Rumble Roses
GRAW
FIFA World Cup
Battlefield II: Modern Combat
Blazing Angels
Burnout Revenge
College Hoops 2K6
Far Cry Instincts Predator
Hitman: Blood Money
Moto GP 06
Table Tennis
Top Spin 2

rein
04-19-2007, 10:32 AM
Glad I could stop by to see that the more things (and some people) change the more they stay the same.

It is narrow-minded to concentrate soley on the fact that the Xbox 360's "weak" period was last year vs the PS3's being this year without including the PS2's line up. If we are going to compare company to company with blanket assumptions, it is only fair to include the facts that Microsoft abandoned their other console (and titles) during this time last year and Sony still has the PS2 (and PSP) titles to carry it through the lean launch period of the PS3. I look for Sony to start slowing down the PS2 titles about the same time the PS3 line-up hits its stride. IMO, it was a pretty smart move on Sony's part. That is not to say they do not need to get PS3 moving with a price cut or something but they are hardly doomed at this point. Give them time to prove themselves regardless of the outcome.

-later

wangstramedeous
04-19-2007, 10:37 AM
Gorvi, I'd like you to just stop for a sec and think about it this way.

Let's suppose the 360 did only have just ONE game last year during the same period. And lets say Microsoft sold just ONE console since then. The fact is NOW they've sold some 10 million consoles, they are bagging a shit load of exclusives and they have a much stronger line up. Yes, PS3 is new, that doesn't take away from the hardwork Sony has to do to catch up.

Are consumers gonna give the PS3 a break because of that? Do your professors give you more a break because you arrived late to lecture? No you suck up and work twice as hard.

KNOTE
04-19-2007, 10:41 AM
Holiday is really the only timeframe that matters.

Fonz
04-19-2007, 10:41 AM
Is it me, or are any of you guys getting really tired of seeing PC first titles being called Xbox360 exclusives?

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 10:43 AM
Gorvi, I'd like you to just stop for a sec and think about it this way.

Let's suppose the 360 did only have just ONE game last year during the same period. And lets say Microsoft sold just ONE console since then. The fact is NOW they've sold some 10 million consoles, they are bagging a shit load of exclusives and they have a much stronger line up. Yes, PS3 is new, that doesn't take away from the hardwork Sony has to do to catch up.

Are consumers gonna give the PS3 a break because of that? Do your professors give you more a break because you arrived late to lecture? No you suck up and work twice as hard.
Oh, I agree with you, they have a steep hill to climb. I'm not trying to compare the PS3's lineup directly to the 360's last year so much as I'm trying to point out that the PS3 is following the same cycle every other console has gone through when it launches. Is it good for the PS3 to have the lack of compelling games right now? Hell no, anyone would be a fool to say that. But is it normal for a console at this point in it's lifecycle? Absolutely.

Hagetaka
04-19-2007, 10:49 AM
That was worded poorly on my part. It would have been better to say Moto GP is a more niche game, not something that you're going to have you're average gamer really getting excited about. Not that it's not a good game in it's own right, though.

Thanks for the clarification =p

/man damn, that game is so damn hard. Nothing like hanging onto a machine pummeling along at 219 mph.

Shodan2020
04-19-2007, 10:50 AM
Damn it. I want something good to play on my PS3 besides PS2 games. At least their online offering looks solid.

Aren't ya glad you paid your bills first? :)

Arglor
04-19-2007, 10:52 AM
PlayStation 2

Key Titles
DAWN of MANA(TM) - Square Enix
Fantastic Four(TM) -
Rise of the Silver Surfer - 2K Games
.hack(R)//G.U. (TM) Vol. 2: Reminisce(TM) - Namco
Harry Potter
AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX(TM) - Electronic Arts, Inc.
Lara Croft Tomb Raider(R): Anniversary - Eidos
Manhunt 2 - Rockstar
NCAA(R) Football 08 - Electronic Arts, Inc.
NARUTO(TM): Ultimate Ninja(TM) 2 - Namco
Odin Sphere(R) - Atlus
Ratatouille - THQ
Shrek The Third(TM) - Activision
Spider-man 3 - Activision
Tony Hawk's(TM) Downhill Jam - Activision

(DAWN OF MANA!? omg! wtf was I when this was talked about? what is it's relation to secret of mana? end SCE fanboi rant.)

I'll be honest, I don't pay much attention to ps2 games cause i never owned a ps2 system, just the gamecube last gen. Boy did i get screwed with that choice. As a S.E. Fan, this is awesome. Now that i think about this. How much profit do you think Sony will make off of these games? When exactly does the ps2 get toppled as king console?

I'd also like to know the relevant differences between SM3 for the wii/360/ps2/ps3. Its interesting that it is getting ported to all systems.

Shodan2020
04-19-2007, 10:53 AM
You guys need to look at this economically as it is a bit unfair to compare the two line-ups on the same field. It doesn't matter how long these developers have had to put together their games; the publishers don't want them released right now. Would you rather sell a game to a system with an install base of one million or wait a year when it will have grown in terms of millions? The answer is obvious, which is exactly why the 360 games are much better this Q2 than last Q2. For its first Q2 line-up it's really not that bad.

ps. Why do you keep bringing up games that were not released in Q2 for the 360? I don't see Gorvi bringing up Resistance or Tekken.


Yeah, but if the game developers don't release any good games for that system out of this fear... how can they expect the install base to grow? Great games make a systems install base grow like wildfire (see GoW).

Philonious
04-19-2007, 10:53 AM
Actually, not to be snotty, what are the worthwhile games out for the PS3. I have Resistance and Virtua Fighter, but am not into Moto(r)Storm. Anything else I should pick up? (I already have Oblivion for PC and 360).

Nodus
04-19-2007, 10:53 AM
All i know is...

Mass effect is coming may or so, followed by darkness (both ps3 and 360) in june. Two must buys for my 360 unless darkness just flops, which isnt likely. Then we Bioshock in august. Riding right out of that is the possibilty of Halo as early as sept/Nov. The incentive for xbox is there and or growing, game wise.

I want a Ps3 believe it or not. Just got a cool new LCD TV with all the hook ups to make both consoles shine but as of yet, theres nothing in the pipe for ps3 that really validates even begining to invest in one, let alone sitting on one collecting dust wishing for a potential hitlist of up and coming games.

Lair and heavenly sword better be good as those are the closest exclusives i think they have launching in the same frame as all those 360 games.

KingGorilla
04-19-2007, 11:00 AM
Yeah, but if the game developers don't release any good games for that system out of this fear... how can they expect the install base to grow? Great games make a systems install base grow like wildfire (see GoW).

But did Gears of War actually develop that install base? With these reports of Channel Stuffing by Microsoft, that assumption is not one you can make. And with how stagnant sales have been since, I think that is furthered. I do not see that Gears had the Halo or Madden or Grand Theft or Pokeman Auto effect on moving hardware, as some would have you believe.

I think that once Sony gets their A list first party games-Gran Tourismo and Ratchet and Clank, as well as God of War 3 that will occur. The same as when Halo 3 comes this fall for Xbox.

muddi900
04-19-2007, 11:05 AM
The network titles are better than most XBLA titles. MKII, for God's sake!

The retail list notyhing to be proud of tho.

KingGorilla
04-19-2007, 11:07 AM
I forgot to mention...that is a better list than Nintendo's. I think their up and coming list is "Sorry, we are unavailable at this time, check back in October."

Arthen
04-19-2007, 11:11 AM
I really don't know why anyone cares about Team Ninja games anymore... playing one is like asking some one to cut you and pour salt in your wounds. OH, and can I pay you money to do it?

Adam Blue
04-19-2007, 11:13 AM
Oblivion is a port just as much as the PS3 version is.
Moto GP isn't what I'd call a great game that people really were looking for.
Table Tennis? My god that game got more hype than a simple Ping Pong game ever deserved.
Top Spin 2, once again, not a great game people would be excited about.
Hitman : Blood Money was a port.

Nah, the 360 did have a good lineup then.

KingGorilla
04-19-2007, 11:15 AM
I really don't know why anyone cares about Team Ninja games anymore... playing one is like asking some one to cut you and pour salt in your wounds. OH, and can I pay you money to do it?
Why yes Itigaki-san, and some lemon juice while you are at it.

copasetic
04-19-2007, 11:22 AM
Yeah, but if the game developers don't release any good games for that system out of this fear... how can they expect the install base to grow? Great games make a systems install base grow like wildfire (see GoW).
King Gorilla covered a lot of it, but it will grow much in the same way that all the other systems have in the past. People will buy these systems in anticipation of future titles in addition to playing the several current titles worth playing (tekken, oblivion, resistance, etc). GoW is a great example of this. It entered upon a healthy install base, with at least some of that created by its anticipation, and believe you me, MGS and JRPGS are making me seriously consider a PS3. I do agree that the MS lineups have probably been better when comparing quarters, but they are very similar. If I had a PS3 I would snatch up F.E.A.R. and Ninja Gaiden on their respective launches and wouldn't expect much more (considering it is their first year). More of a Nintendo man myself though, planning on finally getting a Wii with my tax return.

CptTripps
04-19-2007, 11:44 AM
What? Are you kidding? Have you seen the screen shots of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/742/742505/img_4439331.html)? I saw them in Game Informer and they are incredible. It looks like Johnny Dep, dressed up as a pirate! Like watching a movie. :eek:

Indeed, it does truly look next-next-gen :rolleyes:

Groundbreaking 4d graphics!!! (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/742/742505/img_4439333.html)

CptTripps
04-19-2007, 11:56 AM
Oblivion is a port just as much as the PS3 version is.

Actually, Oblivion seems like it was a 360 game ported to the PC and PS3. It may have come out first on PC, but the interface screams console so loud it cannot be overlooked.

Shodan2020
04-19-2007, 11:59 AM
I really don't know why anyone cares about Team Ninja games anymore... playing one is like asking some one to cut you and pour salt in your wounds. OH, and can I pay you money to do it?

That's your opinion. I love Team Ninja games with the exception of the Xtreme Volleyball ones. The DOA series and Ninja Gaiden are both excellent. Don't even whine about how "Ninja Gaiden was too hard!" It was too hard for you, but I had an excellent time with opponents that were actually challenging.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 12:00 PM
Actually, Oblivion seems like it was a 360 game ported to the PC and PS3. It may have come out first on PC, but the interface screams console so loud it cannot be overlooked.
That is correct. Development took place on the 360 (which was the cause of a lot of consternation at the time) and it was ported to the PC and PS3.

51|RandoM
04-19-2007, 12:03 PM
It may have come out first on PC, but the interface screams console so loud it cannot be overlooked.

Oblivion without mods on the PC has been known to drive the PC faithful insane.

I think they did a great job duplicating the experience on all of the platforms but it only takes a little bit of extra effort on their part to take advantage of the PC strengths, at least in terms of interface design.

Mods were out literally the first day or two to fix the most obnoxious bits of consolitis.

Gorvi
04-19-2007, 12:08 PM
Actually, Oblivion seems like it was a 360 game ported to the PC and PS3. It may have come out first on PC, but the interface screams console so loud it cannot be overlooked.
Ah, I stand corrected then. In that case, Bethesda can handle all the PS3 ports them, they did a great job with Oblivion. :)

xtweakxx
04-19-2007, 12:20 PM
Ninja Gaiden Sigma is definitely exclusive, the Sigma, is just like sports titles adding new years, it's their way of saying hey! we made it more shiny!

BlueNu
04-19-2007, 12:22 PM
Irrelevant comparisons to the other consoles releases for Q2 and Q3 of this year and last year, I'm just bothered by the fact that we still haven't seen much from the PS3 that's really exciting.

Lair looks amazing in July as does LittleBigPlanet sometime early next year, but other than that, I have trouble finding a reason to invest in the system.

As an ardent gamer on a budget, who has yet to purchase a next-gen system, it's hard not to search for PC equivalents or look to the X360 for multiplatform titles due to the sheer cost of Sony's system. =/

smashp
04-19-2007, 12:40 PM
its funny how new consoles are forgiven for having terrible launches and given a grace period over the next several months. please tell me you all didnt forget about the dreamcast.. that was an excellent console that had some pretty standout titles in its first 6 mos (although sega shot themselves in the foot due to their past).. sonic adventure, nfl 2k, marvel vs capcom, crazy taxi, soul calibur, power stone, sega rally 2, virtua fighter 3 tb, dead or alive 2... ah the memories.

lockwoodx
04-19-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm so glad you guys jumped on sony for releasing this press release, because damn. I mean g-damn. How dare they give this list of ps3 and ps2 and psp games and not have a AAA title on it. How dare they.

This is the low of the low. Easily the worst thing Sony has ever done. I eagerly await a microsoft/nintendo controlled gaming world where I can pay four dollars a day to turn my console on to assist MS in covering the fees for allowing my avatar to login to their networks.

You know... it takes their server bandwith, testing, system research, etc to cover my logging in. It is easily explainable why you should pay to log in to their servers. It is what it is.

/end sarcasim.


The sad thing is this isn't Sarcasim at all to the rest of us.

DaXIthR
04-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Great. Thanks a lot, Sony...

With all these big guns, how are you going to have anything left for Q3?

And seriously, people who keep comparing PS3 at every step to where the X360 was exactly a year ago, please stop deluding yourself. The 360 is not there now.

Sony would have loved to launch in 2005 like MS. MS' 9.6M units sold lead has only grown since November despite the availability of hardware.

If Sony is trying to compete with where the 360 was last year, they've already lost.

H.Bogard
04-19-2007, 02:03 PM
360
360 has the following games coming out between April and June
http://360.ign.com/index/release.html





Rayman Raving Rabbids
Spider-Man 3
Shrek the Third
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia
Two Worlds
Mass Effect
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Surf's Up
WarTech: Senko no Ronde
Forza Motorsport 2
Shadowrun
Rogue Warrior
Call of Juarez
Tenchu Z
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Hour of Victory
DiRT
Transformers: The Game
Bigs , The
Darkness, The
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Overlord
23 total
11 Exclusives





Funny, I thought that call of Juarez and CnC3 were also released for the PC.


PS: The formatting in your post is fuxxing up my text... and I can't fix it. :(

Xenkylm
04-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Is it me, or are any of you guys getting really tired of seeing PC first titles being called Xbox360 exclusives?

Shh! Don't bring facts into this! Seriously, WiiPC ftw. I had a birthday recently, and now have 12 of the top 20 Wii games. Between that and a decent PC, I can't figure out why I'd spend so much more money to get a 360 or a PS3. Then again, I don't have an HDTV so I'm not sure what benefit I'd get from either system anyway.

Achilles
04-19-2007, 02:21 PM
Those titles won’t be moving a lot of PS3s this summer. If their fall and winter lists aren’t better they’re going to get clobbered this year.

In comparison to last year even, on the 360 we had GRAW, Oblivion, and Dead Rising, all of which were 1 million + sellers. And this year they're getting some good games as well as has been mentioned previously in this thread.

Boris
04-19-2007, 02:47 PM
Phil Harrison was not available for comment at release of the Second Quarter 2007 PS3 line-up but we did receive the following prepared statements:

By combining the wealth of creativity and talent of games development we can dramatically change the landscape of computer entertainment.

It doesn't put us at a competitive disadvantage at all. Throughout our history, we have never been the first to market.

We have a tremendous piece of hardware... and great creativity. I have no concerns about the competition

oldjadedgamer
04-19-2007, 02:52 PM
Development does take time, but the PS3 has had one whole year 'extra' of potential development time thanks to it's late launch.

And least we forget that according to Sony the only reason for the delay from the Spring to the fall for the launch of the PS3 was because of HDMI and Blu-Ray standards not being complete which has nothing to do with game development.

If nothing else, they should be ahead of everyone else in that area... not behind.

Virtuoso
04-19-2007, 03:58 PM
Mostly because people that understand a market know that a system that's within it's first year takes time to build up titles. Then again, that takes logical thought, not trolling. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. :rolleyes:


I don't understand this line of thought. While it may be true that Sony's first Q2 is lackluster, albeit a bit more lackluster than the 360s in my opinion, its impossible to compare what the PS3 has now with what the 360 had over a year ago. Last year's selection won't be selling console's, this one will.

fitbabits
04-19-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't understand this line of thought. While it may be true that Sony's first Q2 is lackluster, albeit a bit more lackluster than the 360s in my opinion, its impossible to compare what the PS3 has now with what the 360 had over a year ago. Last year's selection won't be selling console's, this one will.
This point has been made numerous times, but it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

51|RandoM
04-19-2007, 04:16 PM
Last year's selection won't be selling console's, this one will.

Oh, so nobody bought a 360 last year?

Wait a minute, I bought a 360 last year, so obviously last year's lineup DID sell consoles.

/boggle

NeoSuplex
04-19-2007, 04:30 PM
Oh, so nobody bought a 360 last year?

Wait a minute, I bought a 360 last year, so obviously last year's lineup DID sell consoles.

/boggle

Oh, I see what you're doing now... /Boggle means that your only pretending to be completely oblivious to the actual message of what you quoted.

Clever.

Silversmith
04-19-2007, 05:25 PM
PS3.. your father(PS2) is very ashamed of you. we all want you to do good but your handlers are fucking you up. Instead of dominating the next gen you are now a 3rd. what will make your father proud

Achilles
04-19-2007, 05:34 PM
Oh, I see what you're doing now... /Boggle means that your only pretending to be completely oblivious to the actual message of what you quoted.

Clever.Actually I think Random read that wrong. What the guy was saying was that it's unfair to compare last year's 360 games to this year's PS3 games because last year's lineup isn't what's going to be selling consoles this summer. It's the classic 'do I buy a PS3 or 360 this summer?' question, where the consumer won't be comparing games based on what time in the console's life cycle they shipped, they'll just be looking at the damn shelves and they'll see the games in question for the PS3, and the games posted earlier in this thread for 360, and make their call on which shelf better.

It's the 360's shelf that looks better by the way. Because it has everything that the PS3’s shelf does (with the exception of a basketball game and a remake of an already remade Xbox game), plus roughly 11 other exclusive games. I don't think it's as good a lineup as last year though. Probably because fewer games slipped Christmas.

Now if you want to get into a discussion about what the system can do, sure compare these games to the ones that came out a year ago. But that won't help their sales.

BlackPete
04-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Oh, so nobody bought a 360 last year?

Wait a minute, I bought a 360 last year, so obviously last year's lineup DID sell consoles.

/boggle

You may want to unboggle yourself then because you read it wrong.

He was talking about today.

grognard66
04-20-2007, 05:03 AM
Pretty weak lineup consisting of old 360 ports, movie tie-ins and multiplatform releases - nothing that will move systems. In Sony's defense, this is a traditionally slow period for all systems though.

Evil Avnovice
04-20-2007, 12:00 PM
I thought Ridge Racer 2 got lost in development limbo.

Gorvi
04-20-2007, 12:03 PM
I thought Ridge Racer 2 got lost in development limbo.
It would be nice if it would have. From everything I've read from importers, RR2 for the PSP is essentially RR1 with a few more cars and 1 or 2 new tracks. If you have the first one (still a good game), you're essentially buying a crappy expansion pack at full price when you get the second.

Evil Avnovice
04-20-2007, 12:13 PM
It would be nice if it would have. From everything I've read from importers, RR2 for the PSP is essentially RR1 with a few more cars and 1 or 2 new tracks. If you have the first one (still a good game), you're essentially buying a crappy expansion pack at full price when you get the second.

It's just as you said, but I want it regardless because I had such a great tme with the first game. :p ;)

I remember playing the demo that pspupdates had way back then.

Gorvi
04-20-2007, 12:34 PM
It's just as you said, but I want it regardless because I had such a great tme with the first game. :p ;)

I remember playing the demo that pspupdates had way back then.
Yep, I played that too. It stuck out to me because it's the only demo I can remember ever playing that had absolutely no music at all. :p

DarkDaY
04-22-2007, 04:57 PM
I'll defend Gorvi. While I've found him to be pissed off and not reasonable in this thread, he's usually much less a member of the SDF, and more or a guy who likes Sony games best.

Now, if wanna talk 51, Rein, Sandman, or Siraris, that's a different story.

ill agree with this, guess since none of them are really around he has to pick up the slack in this thread so it makes him seem harsher than usual.

I really want the ps3 to pick up, because I really want to buy one, i love consoles and games, but facts are facts, and right now, if you have a comp, ds, 360 and even psp, there is just no reason to buy one yet, I keep looking for reasons to justify it, but damn if i cant find one, and I dont buy on potential, that is bad form.
this list does nothing for me, it is pathetic, and it angers me a little cause I need the reason, or a bunch of small ones, still.....nothing.