World of Warcraft on Xbox 360?? [Archive]

Vandenh

06-15-2005, 02:15 AM

1Up (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141477) seems to think there is a chance that the popular MMORPG might make its way to the X360.
Seeing as how Square Enix overcame this problem with Final Fantasy XI on the PlayStation 2, World of Warcraft landing on Xbox 360 seems a question of "when" more than anything else.With a headset, who needs a keyboard?

MasterEvilAce

06-15-2005, 02:31 AM

wow.. that would be friggin' CRAZY.

theCurse

06-15-2005, 02:46 AM

Ken Kutaragi commits seppuku.

Evil Avatar

06-15-2005, 02:49 AM

wow.. that would be friggin' CRAZY.

It would be genius. It would sell Xbox 360's the way Halo sold Xbox's. Kind of a shame Microsoft gave up on True Fantasy Live Online, it would have made a good 360 title also.

bradlay

06-15-2005, 03:01 AM

Man the controls would be crazy hard. There's only so many buttons. Maybe voice activated? Druids in their living rooms screaming MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE MOONFIRE hk

bobbler

06-15-2005, 03:02 AM

Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!

Vandenh

06-15-2005, 03:18 AM

Red Wizard shot the food!

Er...

Well... I guess you could quickly cycle through your bottom bar and select a spell/ability.

bobbler

06-15-2005, 03:20 AM

Red Dwarf needs food badly!

Evil Avatar

06-15-2005, 03:22 AM

Food for thought... The way that both Phantasy Star Online (on the Xbox) and Final Fantasy XI (on the Playstation 2) overcame the "problems" on both systems was to allow the use of a mouse and keyboard.

bobbler

06-15-2005, 03:45 AM

In all seriousness, this would be nice... but, I don't see a reason it wouldn't also find its way to PS3, at least, and probably N-Rev.

Blizzard's past console offerings have been on PS and I think N64 had Starcraft? Also StarCraft:Ghost is for all consoles as far as I've heard.

There is no reason to believe, if this does infact happen, that it would be an exclusive (especially considering how much more money Blizzard has to gain by releasing it on all platforms -- I don't think Microsoft is willing to make a deal good enough to counteract the insane profits from monthly fees).

edit:

After reading the interview... The only reason Xbox360 was brought up exclusively is because the question directly asked about Xbox360 (so that would make sense). It would be pretty sweet if this ended up on all consoles.

What about the next-generation consoles? Final Fantasy XI is going to Xbox 360 - surely Microsoft must have talked to you about bringing World of Warcraft over as well?

We've been in contact with Microsoft... World of Warcraft was really built with a focus on PC, and while I think it certainly could get to Xbox, it's not something that at this moment we've decided to do.

We're exploring any variety of possibilities, as you can imagine, and as it relates to [Xbox 360], it would require certain input devices - you know, a keyboard or a mouse. Those are things that are not standard, they're peripherals, and peripherals have historically not done well for any of the console companies unless you're talking about additional controllers or memory cards. Other than that, when you look at other peripherals, they historically haven't done so well - so for us, we're exploring it, we're listening, we're talking, however, we've not made any decision to go that direction at this point.

Thenetcase

06-15-2005, 04:58 AM

Would certainly make it more easy to be LEEEEERRRRRROOOOOOYY!!!!!!!!!!

normyk

06-15-2005, 05:06 AM

Oh. Damn. Now I want a 360. I was trying to narrow my console choices for next-gen but if this happens then I might just find myself playing on the 360. I still love WOW even if I don't play it constantly any more. I've thought about getting a projector just for it and getting it in 1080i from my 360 would rock quite a bit. Damn.

Heretic Machine

06-15-2005, 05:43 AM

One reason why it wouldn't show up on the PS3 is because the damn thing doesn't come with a hard-drive.

But I'd like to add that BS like this has been said for a long time now, about many MMO's... none of it has ever actually come to fruition. EQoA wasn't really EQ, and FFXI was pretty much designed -for- the console rather than for the PC. Porting an existing MMO to a console without completly remaking it would be something entirely new. I'm not saying it wouldn't be welcome, but I don't see it happening.

Commissar Rob

06-15-2005, 05:44 AM

D'OH! This is TERRIBLE! I just broke free of WoW's seductive embrace - basically because my computer is barely able to run the thing. On the 360....

D'OHeth! Stupid addictive game. :mad: /homer

harbo

06-15-2005, 05:48 AM

Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!

Sleep!

But seriously, this would be horrible, with the incompetent unwashed console gaming masses coming in to make instance runs leroyed every time.

Furious Wang

06-15-2005, 05:55 AM

Sleep!

But seriously, this would be horrible, with the incompetent unwashed console gaming masses coming in to make instance runs leroyed every time.

Sigh. Lord free us from the PC gamer elitists.

Question: Did they console and PC versions of FFX1 or PSO share servers?

OT:

This would be a *big* winner for any console. If they can sell 2 million on the PC, they could ravage the console market.

I can definately see this happening. Question is the time frame.

MosBen

06-15-2005, 06:08 AM

Leroy is a PC gamer if anybody's forgotten. PC gaming is not a bastion of the intelligensia.

Furious Wang

06-15-2005, 06:11 AM

Leroy is a PC gamer if anybody's forgotten. PC gaming is not a bastion of the intelligensia.

See: Starcraft, Diablo, Warcraft

I'd probably expect more from new console players than the trash that make up most of Blizzard's PC fanbase.

Oh yeah, and the spec is that True Fantasy Online was bumped to 360 like Kameo and PD0

TrackZero

06-15-2005, 06:21 AM

TrackZero

06-15-2005, 06:22 AM

I'd probably expect more from new console players than the trash that make up most of Blizzard's PC fanbase.

Wow. What total bait. I'm not going to bite, get a life.

Reanimated

06-15-2005, 06:23 AM

This would be awesome. I stopped playing WoW, but this could really convince me to get back into it and spend some serious time with it.

TrackZero

06-15-2005, 06:24 AM

Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!
Lightning bolt!

I wonder how many people actually got this reference....

kokyunage

06-15-2005, 06:30 AM

This would be awesome. I stopped playing WoW, but this could really convince me to get back into it and spend some serious time with it.

That is a moronic statement. So, the exact same game that you got bored with and requires you to rebuy the game plus 50 dollars worth of accessories suddenly is now playable?

Recockilus.

bobbler

06-15-2005, 06:42 AM

That is a moronic statement. So, the exact same game that you got bored with and requires you to rebuy the game plus 50 dollars worth of accessories suddenly is now playable?

Recockilus.

I dunno... for some reason I was nodding my head when I saw what Reanimated wrote. It just seems more natural to play a 'casual' centric MMO on a console.

I just couldn't get myself to play the game much on my PC -- it wanted my entire attention, but didn't really deserve it for the most part. On the console I can easily ignore it at times and still use my PC (although I realize I can just as easily minimize the game or use another PC to view the internet while playing).

As crazy as it may be, I'd be more likely to play WoW on a console than on a PC if I had to choose. Either way though, I don't find myself playing it much regardless -- long since cancelled my acc and haven't had any urges to play again.

Dirty Harry

06-15-2005, 06:42 AM

I wonder how many people actually got this reference....
Loud and clear, the best part is when he hits his friend in the face ahaha friendly fire.

netcraazzy

06-15-2005, 06:59 AM

Sigh. Lord free us from the PC gamer elitists.

Question: Did they console and PC versions of FFX1 or PSO share servers?

OT:

This would be a *big* winner for any console. If they can sell 2 million on the PC, they could ravage the console market.

I can definately see this happening. Question is the time frame.

Actually the fact that WoW is on PC and requires a pretty fast PC does limit the types of people who can play the game. The price of entry actually rules out a lot of younger players because most of them don't have the money for a gaming PC and chances are pretty good that mommy and daddy are not going to drop $1,000 just for them to play WoW. Just look at CounterStrike, one of the reasons that game is so full of dumbasses is because it'll run on just about any POS emachine and it's cheap to buy. Now I'm not saying that all young players are dumbasses, adults can be dumbasses too, but the PC gaming community does tend to skew towards the older side due to the costs of owning an up-to-date gaming PC.

Rommel

06-15-2005, 07:03 AM

Why would people play in on consoles? Maybe because not everyone plays MMO's yet, and making them available for console players (Many of whom do not play PC games due to the hassle) increases their potential numbers. Personally, I believe that with a game as big as WoW you would see current player numbers double.

Lets just hope this time they have enough servers.

EvilBob46

06-15-2005, 07:03 AM

It would be genius. It would sell Xbox 360's the way Halo sold Xbox's.

An MMORPG on a console that doesn't have Final Fantasy in the title becoming a best seller? Nevermind beating out a game with such mass market appeal as Halo 2? Pleezze.

ldi222

06-15-2005, 07:22 AM

I hope a GW announcement comes soon as well. I would love to kick back and play that on my couch.

goc_sin

06-15-2005, 07:28 AM

How would you play it on a console?

RandomViolence

06-15-2005, 07:54 AM

An MMORPG on a console that doesn't have Final Fantasy in the title becoming a best seller? Nevermind beating out a game with such mass market appeal as Halo 2? Pleezze.

(cough)... IT'S WORLD OF WARCRAFT! Are you seriously doubting the mass appeal of an MMO that has one of the largest userbases in history? Over two million people play this game. That's NOT counting the half-million Chinese beta-ing right now. No mass appeal my ass.

Chagrinful

06-15-2005, 08:06 AM

Leroy is a PC gamer if anybody's forgotten. PC gaming is not a bastion of the intelligensia.

LOL! Consoles even more so there bubba!

I don't really think WoW will have any steam left in it by the time it gets to Xbox 360, I mean everything has a limit to success, and besides, the game isn't geared towards the console gamers looking for manic button pumping, it's a slow "press the botton and wait for the silly meter to replenish" game like all mmorpgs, BUT if it's free monthly tha'd be an interesting proposition. The fact remains though as I've stated, it's getting OLD it'll be OLDER then.

Swat

06-15-2005, 08:15 AM

the game isn't geared towards the console gamers looking for manic button pumping, it's a slow "press the botton and wait for the silly meter to replenish" game like all mmorpgs, BUT if it's free monthly tha'd be an interesting proposition. The fact remains though as I've stated, it's getting OLD it'll be OLDER then.

While this may be true to a certain extent, I've seen many non-gamer family members and friends pick up WoW and love it, so I definitely think it has mass appeal.

As a hardcore guy who's avoided MMO's up until a couple months ago when I picked up WoW, I can attest to it being so much more than a simple "button press" simulator, I've found this to be much smarter than 90% of any console game I've played.

I'm sure I'll get burned out from one too many instances and fetch quests, but hopefully that will be about time the expansion comes out :)

Goronmon

06-15-2005, 08:19 AM

Over two million people play this game. That's NOT counting the half-million Chinese beta-ing right now. No mass appeal my ass.
I could be wrong, but I was under the impression the numbers did include the projected numbers once the game was released in China?

NACIONAL

06-15-2005, 08:22 AM

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression the numbers did include the projected numbers once the game was released in China?

you are right, the 2 million forecast include the beta testers in china....

Blue

06-15-2005, 08:25 AM

The most interesting aspect of this to me would be the controls. I mean, shit, I use Cosmos and have a few dozen powers/abilities ready to be clicked on. Don't know how fast I could do the same with a controler.

Still, more power to them.

Do you still use Cosmos after the update (the one with BG attached to it)? I downloaded the latest version off their site, did everything I normally do, and it won't show up as part of my toolbar. Went in and deleted the portions of my interface folder and just tried to download it from scratch thinking that might be the problem, but still nothing. Can't figure it out. Under the Add-Ons screen, it's check-marked as being "on" but says something about it being 'disabled or out of date'....along those lines at least.

My question is, does yours still work? Did you have to do anything differently? Same thing happened to some of my Guild Mates, but they couldn't figure it out either. If your Cosmos is working, that would at least give me hope. Thanks.

RandomViolence

06-15-2005, 08:26 AM

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression the numbers did include the projected numbers once the game was released in China?

You're correct. I just found this article. MacWorld on WoW. (http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/15/warcraft/index.php) Either way, that's a damn impressive achievement. It doesn't undermine my point that WoW definitely does have the ability to draw players and would in any setting, including on X360.

Reanimated

06-15-2005, 08:33 AM

That is a moronic statement. So, the exact same game that you got bored with and requires you to rebuy the game plus 50 dollars worth of accessories suddenly is now playable?

Recockilus.

Wow, good job on being an ignorant asswipe. I guess I should have explained that the reason I quit playing is because I sit in front of a computer for 8 hours a day at work and I was getting sick of coming home and doing the same thing. The prospect of being able to play WoW from the comfort of my couch with a headset.

I know... pretty moronic, right?

*Legion*

06-15-2005, 09:20 AM

TrackZero

06-15-2005, 09:23 AM

Do you still use Cosmos after the update (the one with BG attached to it)? I downloaded the latest version off their site, did everything I normally do, and it won't show up as part of my toolbar. Went in and deleted the portions of my interface folder and just tried to download it from scratch thinking that might be the problem, but still nothing. Can't figure it out. Under the Add-Ons screen, it's check-marked as being "on" but says something about it being 'disabled or out of date'....along those lines at least.

My question is, does yours still work? Did you have to do anything differently? Same thing happened to some of my Guild Mates, but they couldn't figure it out either. If your Cosmos is working, that would at least give me hope. Thanks.

Yup, I'm not having any issues with my Cosmos after the patch, it's running smooth and silk for once actually. Try posting your problem in their forum, I usually fix my problems there.

kokyunage

06-15-2005, 09:24 AM

sit in front of a computer for 8 hours a day at work and I was getting sick of coming home and doing the same thing.

I guess that make sense. Too bad you didn't include it in your first post. Although, sitting in front of a tv being a lazy bum and sitting in front of the computer doing the same is really no different. At least in my opinion.

Scull

06-15-2005, 09:47 AM

I hope a GW announcement comes soon as well. I would love to kick back and play that on my couch.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. A great casual online game, no fees, easy to setup to use a standard controller and it is a really good game. We have a winner. Plus it would lead many people to the dark side...er...WoW that is. :)

Blue

06-15-2005, 09:49 AM

I guess that make sense. Too bad you didn't include it in your first post. Although, sitting in front of a tv being a lazy bum and sitting in front of the computer doing the same is really no different. At least in my opinion.

Yeah, but I would much rather be comfortable being lazy on my couch than I would propped up on my less-than-comfy computer chair. While I play WoW on my PC now, I would most likely pick it up for the 360 should it come out for it. I would love to be able to sit in my over-sized chair playing WoW on my HD, widescren tv. My monitor does what it's supposed to do, but in no way does it stack up to that. And, my wife would be less upset with me playing if she knew she could use her PC whenever she wanted (I'm a bit of a game-hog so I often steal her online time from her).

I played FF XI on the PS2 and it worked out wonderfully. Too wonderfully, some might argue, as I was much more inclined to just sit there and do nothing but play it, justifying my time in Vana'diel by saying I at least wasn't staring at the monitor hours on end. It did, however, explode my PS2's HDD, so I would be slightly worried the same would happen should I pick up WoW for the 360. I would doubt that, but still, it'd be nagging.

This might be just what I need to get my best friend playing too. I hope this turns out to be more than just a rumor.

Oh, and bring back True Fantasy Online.

Scull

06-15-2005, 09:54 AM

One thing that could really drive the keyboard & mouse setup in the console space is top-shelf MMORPGs like this. If the thing came out earlier in the console lifespan, and if shooter developers embraced it as an optional control setup, then the devices could sell. Seriously, if shooters like Halo & Rainbow Six, and MMORPGs like WoW and whatever else comes out on consoles, all came out with support for an Xbox branded keyboard/mouse setup, does anyone think the peripheral would <i>not</i> come flying off the shelves? At least enough so to make it worth bringing to market.

MS was very visibly afraid of having the first Xbox labeled a PC. After a pretty successful 1st generation, they seem much less nervous (as evidenced by the PC interoperability and media center functionality in the 360). Hopefully they won't be gun-shy to bring a keyboard/mouse combo to market. I like playing many console shooters with the gamepad, but I would like to see consoles extend beyond gamepad input, instead of trying to shoehorn every game into using one input device, no matter how suitable.

One big reason you're not likely to see this is that MS has always said they want a community of online players who have a level playing field as far as hardware is concerned. Everyone online has a different PC setup, and those with the money and desire to do so add all sorts of accessories to make their gameplay faster, smoother, better, where the average Joe probably doesn't. This is removed from the equation of a console. Everyone has the same hardware, everyone uses a controller as the interface and everyone is playing solely on skill. Could you imagine playing Halo on a gamepad against someone using a mouse? The mouse user would have such a huge advantage in the accuracy department the game would quickly lose its appeal to the casual gamer.

Reanimated

06-15-2005, 10:02 AM

I guess that make sense. Too bad you didn't include it in your first post. Although, sitting in front of a tv being a lazy bum and sitting in front of the computer doing the same is really no different. At least in my opinion.

Your're right. I really ought to include my life story in every post I make just in case some jackass with a stick up his ass decides that something I've said doesn't jive with his personal opinion.

Chandler

06-15-2005, 10:58 AM

and then watch Sony counter with Lineage 2 on PS3......the only game to beat WOW in population. heh.

Blue

06-15-2005, 11:00 AM

and then watch Sony counter with Lineage 2 on PS3......the only game to beat WOW in population. heh.

Did Lineage 2 do that well over here? I haven't really met anyone that played it but I've heard it's huge in the Japanese/Korean market. Why didn't it catch on over here? Seemed like it could have the potential to be pretty fun. Anyone here played it?

netcraazzy

06-15-2005, 11:19 AM

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. A great casual online game, no fees, easy to setup to use a standard controller and it is a really good game. We have a winner. Plus it would lead many people to the dark side...er...WoW that is. :)

If you think that they would not charge a monthly fee for WoW just because it's on Live then you better think again. The monthly fee is how Blizzard makes their money, and pays for all the servers, take that away and they have no reason to put it on the 360.

trip1eX

06-15-2005, 11:44 AM

well it sounds like developers can support mouse/keyboard on the 360 if they want to.

KNOTE

06-15-2005, 11:47 AM

I always liked the idea of a blackberry-sized keyboard that plugs into your xbox controller slot. I think it could seriously work.

Guild wars is a much better fit for the Xbox 360 than WoW, by it's nature. (episodic, simpler interface, no monthly fee, competetive gameplay). The first person to get their game on the 360 with this model will have the online RPG killer app.

EL CABONG

06-15-2005, 11:49 AM

wow smow I would rather see TFOL .

Fonz

06-15-2005, 11:53 AM

lol keep your goddamn headsets, your still going to get owned pvp by someone with a mouse and keyboard

Goronmon

06-15-2005, 01:28 PM

I guess that make sense. Too bad you didn't include it in your first post. Although, sitting in front of a tv being a lazy bum and sitting in front of the computer doing the same is really no different. At least in my opinion.Your're right. I really ought to include my life story in every post I make just in case some jackass with a stick up his ass decides that something I've said doesn't jive with his personal opinion.
LOL, the response was predictable, yet still funny (and true) :D

Manzy

06-15-2005, 02:13 PM

Leroy is that one AFK guy from that World of Warcraft video who fucks up those uber l33t nerd's instance run, right? Or is there more of a backstory I havn't heard?

GrinR

06-15-2005, 04:34 PM

Actually the fact that WoW is on PC and requires a pretty fast PC does limit the types of people who can play the game.

Runs fine on my 5-year old laptop with Radeon7500 (32meg) video.

"pretty fast" PC? I guess you live in Russia.

GrinR

06-15-2005, 04:39 PM

Did Lineage 2 do that well over here? I haven't really met anyone that played it but I've heard it's huge in the Japanese/Korean market. Why didn't it catch on over here? Seemed like it could have the potential to be pretty fun. Anyone here played it?

Lineage 2 is the ultimate in slanty-eye grindgasms. If you don't mind your penis becoming mumified, your spine curling like a pretzel, and you have no aspirations in life greater than pressing a button all day while losing your eyesight to unhealthy levels of CRT radiation - you might see some of the mid-level "content".

Seriously. Lineage 2 makes EQ look like Diablo.

Mojopin

06-15-2005, 06:16 PM

Blue

06-15-2005, 06:23 PM

I don't understand why people consider the use of a headset to be a drawing point for an Xbox 360 version. Anyone that turns 60 and is in an active guild usually uses Vent or TeamSpeak all the time anyway. So the headset isn't really that big of a "bonus", but playing on the couch all lounged out would be nice, but that would mean you would probably have to control the game with a controller which it was not made for. FFXI worked great with a controller because it was designed for the PS2, but WoW... hey... no

I tried playing FF XI with my controller for about a day before freaking out and having to run out and pick up a keyboard for my PS2 (none of mine at the time were USB). Could be wrong, but I was under the impression it was a PC game first in Japan before it hit the PS2. Either way, there was no possibility of enjoying FF XI with just a controller. It would have taken fifteen minutes to type "Help! I'm under attack!" using the interface they went with.

WoW for the 360 won't be any different. It would play exactly the same because a keyboard would, in all reality, be a necessity. No one could just use a controller and be of any use to anybody.

And, the headset would actually be a draw-back for me. I find that I pay attention much easier when I'm simply typing and reading text rather than having to listen in on what people are saying. Also, if what is spammed in Iron Forge on a near-continuous basis is any indication, I have no desire to have that blarring over my mic. Mic-spam is the reason I stopped playing Halo 2 over Live. Drove me insane. At least with a keyboard, everyone is somewhat muted.

Mojopin

06-15-2005, 06:45 PM

TrackZero

06-15-2005, 06:45 PM

Leroy is that one AFK guy from that World of Warcraft video who fucks up those uber l33t nerd's instance run, right? Or is there more of a backstory I havn't heard?

Leory was apparently a guy before that who used to do that kind of thing. The video was actually just making a reference to it.

Blue

06-15-2005, 07:04 PM

Did you try it with a dual shock? I had one for the PC version of FFXI and set it up kinda like I thought SE would have it set up for PS2 and it worked perfectly. Since most of the game was played with macros anyway I would just hit one of my triggers and pick the appropriate macro and hit X, very nice. That works with a game like FFXI because combat was very slow thus playing with macros was ideal. WoW on the other had has very fast paced combat. Having to find your macro would be very difficult as my rogue or druid pounded you. =P

Yeah, used the dual shock. I thought moving around with it was great and that aspect of it worked out very well for me (enjoyed it more than I did using the keyboard). And yes, I used the controller to set up macros which worked out well though I oddly found myself hitting the wrong one when I was in a panic situation - being attacked, say - and would often end up dancing instead of shouting for help. I just figure that, personally, a keyboard would be the better of the two options.

mister_slim

06-15-2005, 07:05 PM

Speaking of controllers, why aren't there any interesting modules for the Xbox? It has two expansion slots right in the controller, ready for tilt or rotation sensors, or breathalyzers, or whatever... But I've seen nothing. And the 360 got rid of those slots.

Citizen Philip

06-15-2005, 11:07 PM

I wonder how many people actually got this reference....

*sigh*

I did.

I feel dirty.

Citizen Philip

06-15-2005, 11:15 PM

I don't see current controllers being capable of permitting the gameplay seen in WoW. i have upwards of 20-35 buttons that I might need to use (maybe no more than 12 in anyone one fight, but the next fight might be 20 seconds later with 6 different keys) when playing WoW. That exludes me moving my toon, and spinning my camera around.

A keyboard and mouse is required for WoW. I'd be interested in any any hybrid or new controller system they may develop to pursue such games, but they do not currently have one.