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TDiddy
03-06-2007, 04:18 PM
It looks like extreme Gamerscore whores are going to have to go multi-platform...

Designing Achievements for “Halo 2” for Windows Vista
The Xbox version of “Halo 2” obviously predated the era of the Gamerscore, so this represents one of several compelling reasons to give “Halo 2” another spin. For the team, designing fun and significant rewards in a game that is already well-established was a bit challenging. This was accomplished with the help of the talented staff at Bungie Studios and Hired Gun, with a watchful eye on the latest trends in the gaming community. The achievements were designed with some fundamental goals in mind – keep the game fun, encourage beginners to join our “Halo 2” community, and provide a new challenge with a few tough or interesting achievements for our most dedicated fans.

Link (http://blogs.ign.com/MGS_HiredGun/2007/03/06/48572/)
Adam Blue
03-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Hmmm...

Yes, I've thought about it. I will now buy this game.
Codicier
03-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Hmmm...

Yes, I've thought about it. I am an achievement whore.

Fixed it. ;)
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Possible Achievements:

You got a game running in Vista!

You were suckered into buying a 2 1/2 year old game... again
Zanch
03-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Here's a good achievement:

Witnessed the "ending" to Halo 2 without being utterly and completely disappointed or angry.

20 points!
Doctor Setebos
03-06-2007, 05:03 PM
You were suckered into buying a 2 1/2 year old game... againHow is that any worse than buying 10-20 year old games off Nintendo's VC?

Besides the fact that you would be shelling out ANOTHER $50 for a game that came out just a couple of years ago. :rolleyes:
archon
03-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Bought game only to discover there's no COOP. -5 gamerpoints.
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 05:10 PM
How is that any worse than buying 10-20 year old games off Nintendo's VC?

Besides the fact that you would be shelling out ANOTHER $50 for a game that came out just a couple of years ago. :rolleyes:
Cute. They should just let you run the freaking Halo 2 disc in Windows.
Philonious
03-06-2007, 05:12 PM
Cute. They should just let you run the freaking Halo 2 disc in Windows.

Blasphemy... A PC couldn't emulate an XBOX! The sheer processing power needed, the awesome video card... Yeah, I was half expecting Microsoft to announce Vista would play XBOX games.
Disgustipated
03-06-2007, 05:13 PM
I've got a friend named BitTorrent. He always has the hottest games, sometimes before they're out in stores.

I love him.
childish
03-06-2007, 05:21 PM
this is cool....good idea
Doctor Setebos
03-06-2007, 05:24 PM
Cute. They should just let you run the freaking Halo 2 disc in Windows.XNA could do it. XNA CAN DO ANYTHING!
GrimSanto
03-06-2007, 05:45 PM
How long do you think it will take until somebody hacks the game to get all of the achievements.
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 05:46 PM
How long do you think it will take until somebody hacks the game to get all of the achievement.
This brings up a good point.

With Live on the 360, everything is locked down tight. When Live opens to PC users, how much hacking will go on? Will people be able to hack their gameplay in online games?

Live on a PC = Big Can of Worms!
Hemalin
03-06-2007, 05:51 PM
With Live on the 360, everything is locked down tight. When Live opens to PC users, how much hacking will go on? Will people be able to hack their gameplay in online games?

People do it already on the PC. Life goes on.
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 05:58 PM
People do it already on the PC. Life goes on.
Riiiight.

People do it on the PC, and it does not have any effect on my 360 games. With people hacking Live GAMEPLAY on the PC, how will that effect those of us who play on the 360?

Take Shadowrun for example, if PC users are cheating, how will that effect those playing on the 360? Aimbots anyone?
TheEpicOfTyler
03-06-2007, 05:59 PM
Yeah so I've been playing Halo 2 on a borrowed Xbox the past week or so, and it is seriously one of the most over-rated games of all time. The multiplayer is a blast, but the single player is mediocre at best.
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 06:04 PM
Yeah so I've been playing Halo 2 on a borrowed Xbox the past week or so, and it is seriously one of the most over-rated games of all time. The multiplayer is a blast, but the single player is mediocre at best.
Oh geez. I completely agree. I don't understand the Halo hype train AT ALL!
cp#
03-06-2007, 06:08 PM
LOL @ Achievements
DeathtollWRX
03-06-2007, 06:16 PM
Yeah so I've been playing Halo 2 on a borrowed Xbox the past week or so, and it is seriously one of the most over-rated games of all time. The multiplayer is a blast, but the single player is mediocre at best.


Everybody is entitled to an opinion. It's just that your opinion is wrong. :D
Headcase
03-06-2007, 06:16 PM
Witnessed the "ending" to Halo 2 without being utterly and completely disappointed or angry.

20 points!

Well Kamalot, I don't think any amount of hacking could crack this achievement. It's just so far-fetched that the PC you're hacking with would just laugh at you and walk away.
Shodan2020
03-06-2007, 06:19 PM
I've got a friend named BitTorrent. He always has the hottest games, sometimes before they're out in stores.

I love him.

Shhhhh... not so loud! Evil will hear you! ;)
NACIONAL
03-06-2007, 06:29 PM
The multiplayer is a blast, but the single player is mediocre at best.

MMMM.... lets see, Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament (the original),.... both sold MILLIONS on that premise alone!

In fact, I've just finished playing Quake 3 with a friend, and I still play it every day at work (at lunch time of course) with over 12 coworkers (and bosses!)
Hemalin
03-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Riiiight.

People do it on the PC, and it does not have any effect on my 360 games. With people hacking Live GAMEPLAY on the PC, how will that effect those of us who play on the 360?

Take Shadowrun for example, if PC users are cheating, how will that effect those playing on the 360? Aimbots anyone?
I'd be just as concerned about cheating and exploiting from my console brethren. I don't think you'll have to worry about Shadowrun if the rumers (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157724) are true, there won't be much cross-platform gaming going on.
mkelehan
03-06-2007, 06:46 PM
After reading the description of some of the achievements, they look very interesting. I hope this moves the trend away from "Thanks for your $60, here's 1000 points!" to what they always should've been: a checklist of challenges to extend the game's replay value. Any achievement that makes you play the game differently is great.
KarmaGhost
03-06-2007, 07:19 PM
<----PC gamer

Know what'll be funny? When Halo 3 for 360 comes out before Halo 2 for PC.
TheEpicOfTyler
03-06-2007, 07:39 PM
MMMM.... lets see, Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament (the original),.... both sold MILLIONS on that premise alone!

In fact, I've just finished playing Quake 3 with a friend, and I still play it every day at work (at lunch time of course) with over 12 coworkers (and bosses!)

I'm not saying that it shouldn't have sold well or anything, but the game got tons of GoTY awards when during the same year many other much better games came out IMO. (Half Life 2, MGS3, San Andreas...)
Tyrant
03-06-2007, 07:41 PM
This brings up a good point.

With Live on the 360, everything is locked down tight. When Live opens to PC users, how much hacking will go on? Will people be able to hack their gameplay in online games?

Live on a PC = Big Can of Worms!

Things aren't quite locked down tight. If you go to 360gamesaves.com and sign up for their forums, you'll find a bunch of users with tens of thousands of gamerpoints, who actually obtain the gamerpoints by loading completed saves transferred from their PC to the 360. Microsoft's fall update rendered most games incompatible with transferred saves, but there's still a few dozen working ones.
Disgustipated
03-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Shhhhh... not so loud! Evil will hear you! ;)

They're freeware games, obviously. ;)
Kamalot
03-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Things aren't quite locked down tight. If you go to 360gamesaves.com and sign up for their forums, you'll find a bunch of users with tens of thousands of gamerpoints, who actually obtain the gamerpoints by loading completed saves transferred from their PC to the 360. Microsoft's fall update rendered most games incompatible with transferred saves, but there's still a few dozen working ones.
I'm not concerned about people cheating to get points. I'm worried that people will be able to cheat in multiplayer. I believe that's a valid concern.
GrimSanto
03-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm not concerned about people cheating to get points. I'm worried that people will be able to cheat in multiplayer. I believe that's a valid concern.

I agree, I think this could be a big problem. I could get out of control quickly.
Tyrant
03-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm not concerned about people cheating to get points. I'm worried that people will be able to cheat in multiplayer. I believe that's a valid concern.

I interpreted your post in a weird way...but yeah, online cheating for a PC game is pretty much a given. As long as Bungie and any other companies who decide to allow for interplatform play have enough common sense to include an option for console only games, it shouldn't be an issue.
KingGorilla
03-06-2007, 09:27 PM
OK...you are worried about the PC version being easy to cheat in Multiplayer? Do you have any idea how fucking ridiculous that sounds to someone who played it on Xbox!?
Adam Blue
03-06-2007, 09:53 PM
I'm not concerned about people cheating to get points. I'm worried that people will be able to cheat in multiplayer. I believe that's a valid concern.

Well, considering Halo 2's current(and past) situation...nothing different there.
[VSK]BadCRC
03-06-2007, 10:35 PM
This brings up a good point.

With Live on the 360, everything is locked down tight. When Live opens to PC users, how much hacking will go on? Will people be able to hack their gameplay in online games?

Live on a PC = Big Can of Worms!

Oh I'm sure Microsoft will have a validation tool, not unlike the one they plugged XP all up with. Every now and then it just randomly requires you to patch your game with worthless tools that'll ultimately lead to the invalidation of a large number of their consumer's Windows games.
Craigtheplague
03-07-2007, 12:36 AM
Yeah so I've been playing Halo 2 on a borrowed Xbox the past week or so, and it is seriously one of the most over-rated games of all time. The multiplayer is a blast, but the single player is mediocre at best.

QFT. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/11/28. This portrays my thoughts, except the last panel. The other aspects of the game weren't bad at all. #2 was same old, same old. Hopefully #3 will make #2 look like what Jak 3 made Jak II look like. I hope that makes sense.
MaiXu
03-07-2007, 01:52 AM
Halo 2 and "fun and significant" parted ways a long time ago.

/taste the hate!
Royal Fool
03-07-2007, 05:38 AM
"Killed 50.000 Flood in singleplayer" - 10 points

"Discovered that Halo 2's story doesn't have an ending" - 5 points

"Yelled at 100 players in an online game" - 30 points

"Gave 50 people negative reviews because they were better than you" - 40 points
Kamalot
03-07-2007, 06:49 AM
Well, considering Halo 2's current(and past) situation...nothing different there.
I never played Halo or Halo 2 online. Never really cared for the games. I have played a fair bit of other games online on the 360 and have yet to experience someone cheating, unlike PC gaming.

My concern is more with cheating infiltrating other games on Live, disrupting the 360 gaming experience.