View Full Version : Survey Says...Metal Gear Solid on Xbox 360?
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 12:07 PM
So my wife just completed a survey and some of the questions were as follows:
"Would you like to see Metal Gear Solid 4 on Xbox 360?"
"Would you buy an Xbox 360 just to play Metal Gear Solid 4?"
"On a scale of 0-100, with zero being not at all satisfied and 100 being very satisfied, how would you rate Konami's output on Xbox 360 to date?"
The survey comes from a fairly popular marketing and research firm.
Make of it what you will, but it's an interesting development.
TheFlyingOrc
02-19-2007, 12:08 PM
So my wife just completed a survey and some of the questions were as follows:
Make of it what you will, but it's an interesting development.
Where was this survey, fitbabits?
Serapth
02-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Where was this survey, fitbabits?
You mean "Servery" don't you? ;)
Schnoogs
02-19-2007, 12:12 PM
Yes
Yes
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TheFlyingOrc
02-19-2007, 12:15 PM
You mean "Servery" don't you? ;)
...I'm missing something - what's going on?
Gorvi
02-19-2007, 12:15 PM
...I'm missing something - what's going on?
Take a look at the thread title.
Oh, and....
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!
Dr.Finger
02-19-2007, 12:21 PM
Changed it from the brogue spelling of survey to the correct one.
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 12:22 PM
Changed it from the brogue spelling of survey to the correct one.
Thanks, doc.
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Where was this survey, fitbabits?
It was an email survey invitation she got sent. I can no longer fill them out as I'm part of "the industry", but my wife enjoys playing games and has fun filling them out so I still get to see what's going on.
Seems like a stupid ass question but I take it it was an email sent out by Konami?
bapenguin
02-19-2007, 01:13 PM
Seems like a stupid ass question but I take it it was an email sent out by Konami?
I see Fits isn't around, so I'll answer for him. It was a survey done by a pretty reputable marketing group, the group in fact has Microsoft as one of it's major clients.
It's quite a popular firm in the political realm as well, compiling exit polls from national and international elections.
TheFlyingOrc
02-19-2007, 01:18 PM
I see Fits isn't around, so I'll answer for him. It was a survey done by a pretty reputable marketing group, the group in fact has Microsoft as one of it's major clients.
It's quite a popular firm in the political realm as well, compiling exit polls from national and international elections.
Y'know, I think I would buy a 360 to get MGS4, I keep wanting to as is, but don't want to make the ~$500 investment it would take to get it, a game, and a controller.
I see Fits isn't around, so I'll answer for him. It was a survey done by a pretty reputable marketing group, the group in fact has Microsoft as one of it's major clients.
It's quite a popular firm in the political realm as well, compiling exit polls from national and international elections.
Cheers.
I find it hard to imagine that Konami isn't at least considering better support for 360 in some form or another. I know that it's hardly the most popular toy in japan but things are improving and it's not even the most important territory.
MGS4 for 360!
Raven395
02-19-2007, 01:37 PM
I don't know how many will agree with me on this, but I can see this adding to the suckage factor for the PS3. If MGS4 becomes a multi-console release, with comparable graphics etc..., who in all honesty is gonna shell out the money for a PS3 (assuming of course that people are buying the PS3 for MGS4. It'd be a selling factor for me).
Seems like a stupid ass question but I take it it was an email sent out by Konami?
couldve been a Microsoft survey to show Konami they are being asses... its kind of crazy though, what if a bunch of fan boys got hold of it and answered all in Sony's favor?
TheFlyingOrc
02-19-2007, 01:50 PM
couldve been a Microsoft survey to show Konami they are being asses... its kind of crazy though, what if a bunch of fan boys got hold of it and answered all in Sony's favor?
...that's why they send it to you randomly.
TheFlyingOrc
02-19-2007, 01:52 PM
I don't know how many will agree with me on this, but I can see this adding to the suckage factor for the PS3. If MGS4 becomes a multi-console release, with comparable graphics etc..., who in all honesty is gonna shell out the money for a PS3 (assuming of course that people are buying the PS3 for MGS4. It'd be a selling factor for me).
....d....duh? That's WAY up there on the obvious chart.
Raven395
02-19-2007, 01:55 PM
....d....duh? That's WAY up there on the obvious chart.
Exactly. You don't expect me to be original do ya? Good god.
gzsfrk
02-19-2007, 02:12 PM
I get surveys like this from NPDOR all the time. I always fill them out, because I actually won a $100 Amazon gift certificate from them. Bought me my first three DS games. =)
H2o Ninja
02-19-2007, 02:20 PM
I wouldn't doubt if it came to the 360', though i'm wondering why they used a survey...It's pretty damn obvious that 360' gamers would love to play MGS, at least if they troll forums and news sites like I do...Either way, I think it's in Konami's best interest to do this, they'll lose so much money being on one console that didn't sell so well...
Jake Plane
02-19-2007, 02:20 PM
Was this Penn Schoen? I see no reason not to "reveal" the firm. It's widely known that they do MS polling, including 360.
I only ask because if it wasn't, then I would guess that Konami commissioned the poll and are inclined to bring it.
If so, then I'm guessing that Microsoft is in negotiations with Konami and is trying to decide if the huge amount of blackmail Konami is demanding is worth it.
Personally, having Metal Gear Solid - at the same time on both consoles - seems like it would be a death knell for the PS3.
The Continental
02-19-2007, 03:21 PM
360ers place entirely too much faith in the Metal Gear Solid brand. Yes it is a really big seller with a big fan base, but it wouldn't be the death knell of the PS3 by any means if it went multiplatform. Hell, look at how many copies MGS2: Substance sold on the original Xbox.
If the current iteration of the Final Fantasy series goes multi platform, that's when the Sony faithful need to be worried.
karak
02-19-2007, 03:29 PM
360ers place entirely too much faith in the Metal Gear Solid brand. Yes it is a really big seller with a big fan base, but it wouldn't be the death knell of the PS3 by any means if it went multiplatform. Hell, look at how many copies MGS2: Substance sold on the original Xbox.
If the current iteration of the Final Fantasy series goes multi platform, that's when the Sony faithful need to be worried.
360ers. Uh no, Sony does, or at least all their main management does. Hence their continual barrage of MGS4 comments in every interview when asked how they feel about Microsoft having Grand Theft Auto or Halo 4. They always say, "Who has MGS4, you can't do that on a 360. Who has Final Fantasy?" Both games matter. It obviously matters to Sony.
gojira
02-19-2007, 03:29 PM
I wouldn't buy a 360 just for MSG alone, but MSG, Lost Planet, FF and a couple more JRPGs would do it.
DeadScreenSky
02-19-2007, 03:30 PM
How could anybody be happy with Konami's current Xbox 360 support?
jeffbax
02-19-2007, 03:33 PM
MGS 2 sold poorly on Xbox because it came TWO YEARS after the PS2 version. Seriously. I don't know why thats always brought up.
Royal Fool
02-19-2007, 03:38 PM
MGS is a huge icon for the PlayStation brand. If MGS4 would end up on the 360, it would obviously be a blow to Sony. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
Raven395
02-19-2007, 03:39 PM
MGS 2 sold poorly on Xbox because it came TWO YEARS after the PS2 version. Seriously. I don't know why thats always brought up.
Yup, if it was released at the same time I think it'd probably trash Sony's hopes of people buying a PS3 for it. Their only option would be a price cut, but MS can easily outmatch them considering there already starting lower.
I agree about FF as well, if both go multi-platform that could be it completely. However MGS would be a huge blow as well.
Stryfe01
02-19-2007, 03:43 PM
I get them from a few places myself. the best place so far is gamesurveys. They send out about 2-3 a month and they are interactive as well. you can cut game clips and let them know which parts you like, critique character designs and more. Best part is that most surveys pay out $5 each.
Achilles
02-19-2007, 03:54 PM
Personally, having Metal Gear Solid - at the same time on both consoles - seems like it would be a death knell for the PS3.I agree. At this point MS may be thinking that it'll just die on its own and they don't need to pay to poach exclusives from it though. Personally if I was in charge of MS I'd be putting all the nails in that coffin I possibly could.
Ozymandias
02-19-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't know how many will agree with me on this, but I can see this adding to the suckage factor for the PS3. If MGS4 becomes a multi-console release, with comparable graphics etc..., who in all honesty is gonna shell out the money for a PS3 (assuming of course that people are buying the PS3 for MGS4. It'd be a selling factor for me).
There's always the next, non-MMO Final Fantasy for PS3 (see edits below to see why I'm being so pedantic). ;)
But I'm reaching after that one personally. Maybe the new Jak if it ends up playing as good as it looks.
[Edit: That would be 13, not 18 as I wrote. <sigh>]
[Edit 2: I am an idiot. Now, instead of saying Final Fantasy III, I think I'll just type it out. <double-sigh>]
KamaItachi
02-19-2007, 04:06 PM
So fits, on a scale of 0-100, how happy was you wife with Rumble Roses XX?
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 04:50 PM
So fits, on a scale of 0-100, how happy was you wife with Rumble Roses XX?
The would be about 100 below zero!!
Balthasar
02-19-2007, 04:53 PM
Make of it what you will, but it's an interesting development.
I kind of wish I had a record of all the prominent XBox fanboys on here decrying MGS4 so I could note which ones suddenly become excited by this game being on their system of choice.
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 04:56 PM
I kind of wish I had a record of all the prominent XBox fanboys on here decrying MGS4 so I could note which ones suddenly become excited by this game being on their system of choice.
Are you accusing me of being an Xbox fanboy based on my comment?? :confused:
TrackZero
02-19-2007, 04:57 PM
The survey comes from a fairly popular marketing and research firm.
Nice. I used to do focus groups as well, it was a good time (and they paid me just to give feedback). Hopefully Konami/MS get the message.
I also hope the emulation ninja's at MS finally get MGS 2: Substance working for BC sometime soon. I went to play that today and it's still gimped.
bone_matrix
02-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Are you accusing me of being an Xbox fanboy based on my comment?? :confused:
I'd call you a fanboy based upon all the money Microsoft pays you. :D
On a side note, I would buy MGS4 if it came out for the 360, not really to play, but to complete my collection. I have 1 through 3, may as well have the 4th. Haven't played them yet, but I like the idea of playing them. Games and I get weird sometimes.
If it was only on the PS3, I'd still buy it, but for 15 bucks, and after the PS3 dropped in price many years down the road.
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 05:40 PM
I'd call you a fanboy based upon all the money Microsoft pays you. :D
I've never said this before, but oh snap! :)
BadCRC
02-19-2007, 05:41 PM
I have 360, but I hope MGS4 will stay exclusive to PS3... cuz I need something to play on PS3... Whenever I'll get it...
CaptStu
02-19-2007, 05:46 PM
Good deal, Fits. This story just got picked up by Joystiq.
Johan
02-19-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm not a big MGS fan, but as a 360 owner, I'm smart enough to realize that games like that are system sellers for some people, so...here's hoping it's coming to the 360.
fitbabits
02-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Good deal, Fits. This story just got picked up by Joystiq.
Suh-weet! :)
*wonders if this, plus my review of the Gaming Receiver for Windows appearing on ArsTechnica, finally makes me a "professional journalist".*
Sandman
02-19-2007, 07:00 PM
At least Joystiq credited Evil Avatar there....and reading the Joystiq comments is like throwing up in your mouth and then swallowing it back down.
Zecon
02-19-2007, 08:02 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that MGS4 will blow? I know it's gonna be rushed, only to be followed a couple years later with the real version that has a lame ass subname.
I loved 1, played through the second one an few times and still never got what the hell it was about. I got rid of my PS2 before 3 came out, but played it a litttle on a friends PS2. If only they would show the 360 more love, since it's obviously not going the way of the Dreamcast. Well I'm off to go pick up Crackdown!
Balthasar
02-19-2007, 09:02 PM
Are you accusing me of being an Xbox fanboy based on my comment?? :confused:
No, not at all.
DarkDaY
02-19-2007, 09:41 PM
360ers place entirely too much faith in the Metal Gear Solid brand. Yes it is a really big seller with a big fan base, but it wouldn't be the death knell of the PS3 by any means if it went multiplatform. Hell, look at how many copies MGS2: Substance sold on the original Xbox.
If the current iteration of the Final Fantasy series goes multi platform, that's when the Sony faithful need to be worried.
fully agree with that.
it would be great for those who dont pick up the 360, but it wouldnt kill the ps3.
im sure they have a shit load of games comin that are going to be great.
A company that big, no matter how many screw ups we see, dosent envest that much time and money and get to where they are to have one game make or break them and not have others in the wing.
the ps3 will be just fine either way.
sprankton
02-19-2007, 10:05 PM
At least Joystiq credited Evil Avatar there....and reading the Joystiq comments is like throwing up in your mouth and then swallowing it back down.
and then kissing your sister. :rolleyes:
Jake Plane
02-19-2007, 10:08 PM
360ers place entirely too much faith in the Metal Gear Solid brand. Yes it is a really big seller with a big fan base, but it wouldn't be the death knell of the PS3 by any means if it went multiplatform. Hell, look at how many copies MGS2: Substance sold on the original Xbox.
As is the case with all analogies, this one is bit flawed.
First of all, MGS2: Substance was released on the Xbox long after the PS2, relatively speaking. And as a result it lost some of its luster (I can't think of a single delayed-release title that hasn't lost some of its sheen). Further, as you may recall, by the time MGS2: Substance was coming out, the initial Splinter Cell hype machine was in full effect (and that's relevant because back then Splinter was being hyped as an only-on-Xbox title and thus was positioned as Microsoft's answer to MGS; hence gamers potentially interested in picking up MGS2:S may have decided to buy Splinter instead). And to add insult to injury, even though the Xbox was more powerful its version of MGS:2 was actually choppier at places. So ultimately, few were surprised that a poorly ported, long delayed game that was released as team Xbox was hyping their MGS killer, Splinter Cell, sold poorly.
So saying that MGS2: S wasn't a death knell for the PS2 and hence the loss of MGS4 as an exclusive wouldn't be a death knell for the PS3 isn't exactly an apples to oranges comparison - especially when you consider that MGS2: S was released when the PS2 was peaking whereas the PS3 is only now starting its life cycle. And as the Great One once said, timing is 99% of life. If Sony loses MGS4 at this early stage, I think it's possible that a number of potential-PS3 adopters would jump ship to the 360.
Also consider that exclusives are much more rare this go around. Exclusives Sony has lost this generation:
Grand Theft Auto IV
Virtua Fighter
Resident Evil
Guitar Hero
Assassin's Creed
Unreal Tournament 3 (formerly Unreal Tournament 2007)
Mercenaries 2 (albeit not *officially* confirmed)
As a result, if Sony were to lose another high profile exclusive, especially one that is so closely associated with its brand, then yes, I could see the ground shifting underneath their feet.
In sum, perhaps death knell was a tad hyperbolic. But when you consider how widely such an announcement would reverberate in the gaming community; when you factor this loss against all the other high profile exclusives Sony has already lost; and when you weigh both of these factors against the the fact that the PS3 has only been widely available for a little over a month, ultimately, I really can't see how anyone wouldn't conclude that the loss of MGS4 as an exclusive would seriously hurt Sony in the marketplace. And it certainly would be an understatement to suggest that such a loss would be on par with the impact MGS2: Substance had last gen.
kurosaki
02-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Cant say i didn't see this one coming.
Borys
02-19-2007, 11:08 PM
The same firm that leaked the Microsoft buys Capcom news? Sorry, fits, I know you'd love that to happen but your credibility = 0.
TrackZero
02-20-2007, 12:09 AM
In sum, perhaps death knell was a tad hyperbolic.
3rd post from you and it's gold. Always fantastic to see intelligent dialog from a new EvAver. Welcome aboard man.
xplics
02-20-2007, 12:16 AM
In my opinion the way I see it is like this regardless of the sales of the PS3 right now or in the NEAR time frame I would think it would just be smart to put out MSG3 on both consoles, heck even wii if it is possible. For one thing it would make fans of the series happy, and make the company a lot of money as well....or at least I would think.
menage
02-20-2007, 12:45 AM
I used to love MGS, but the game is starting to show it's age. MGS4 has to be damn good and new enough to make me buy the game, let alone a whole system.
I'm not paying 600 dollars for a glorified cutscene. I'll just watch the trailers and have my fill, moving on to more original IP's.
A new Vandalhearts would rock though.
DangerousDaze
02-20-2007, 12:57 AM
Hey, don't forget all those dramatic "Hrmmmmmmm"s that Snake likes to say every other line. ;)
Gorvi
02-20-2007, 02:16 AM
A new Vandalhearts would rock though.
A Vandal Hearts game (or a remake of the first) was announced for the DS quite a while ago (well over a year ago), but Konami hasn't said a damn thing about it since. They love to tease me. :(
menage
02-20-2007, 02:21 AM
I hate that all the classics are coming on DS. Not that I hate the system, but I want to see something like that with ng graphics and sound. Plus I'm not a portable gamer.
Hmmmmmmmmmm, lol, I wasn't even thinking about those endless radio communications, that will stretch your game by another couple of hours.
Wasson_
02-20-2007, 02:50 AM
Assassin's Creed is going to the 360 as well??
menage
02-20-2007, 02:53 AM
ehm, yep, sure is
fitbabits
02-20-2007, 04:28 AM
The same firm that leaked the Microsoft buys Capcom news? Sorry, fits, I know you'd love that to happen but your credibility = 0.
Nope. Nice try, though.
Kweli
02-20-2007, 06:23 AM
Wheres the link for this survey?
fitbabits
02-20-2007, 06:27 AM
Wheres the link for this survey?
It was an invitation-only survey. My wife got paid one dollar for her opinions.
Serapth
02-20-2007, 06:38 AM
It was an invitation-only survey. My wife got paid one dollar for her opinions.
Is there a law about that or something? I recently in a momment of weakness agreed to do a radio survery ( about radio stations, not a survey on the radio ), and they sent 2$ inside the survey pamphlet. Do they have to do that now?
As is the case with all analogies, this one is bit flawed.
So saying that MGS2: S wasn't a death knell for the PS2 and hence the loss of MGS4 as an exclusive wouldn't be a death knell for the PS3 isn't exactly an apples to oranges comparison - especially when you consider that MGS2: S was released when the PS2 was peaking whereas the PS3 is only now starting its life cycle.
Also consider that exclusives are much more rare this go around. Exclusives Sony has lost this generation
Trends have changed greatly, and we really have to set aside online hype and look at things objectively as there is a discrepency 9 our 10 times. After MGS2, the series lost much of its appeal which consequently led to considerably less sales with MGS3 in the west (check around for NPD totals), while Japanese sales remained comparable. Despite this, you can count that Sony will hold on to MGS, even if it's time exclusivity much like MGS2. But the franchise alongside the likes of DMC, aren't killer apps that would make or break the system given their current position (the franchise's position) in the market. FFXIII on the other hand would hurt Sony a great deal, particularly in Japan where the Wii has been outselling the PS3.
I quoted the list of lost exclusives because UT3 was never an exclusive (although console exclusive), and unless RE hasn't been a Sony exclusive franchise since 1999. Remember the Nintendo deal?
fitbabits
02-20-2007, 08:18 AM
Is there a law about that or something? I recently in a momment of weakness agreed to do a radio survery ( about radio stations, not a survey on the radio ), and they sent 2$ inside the survey pamphlet. Do they have to do that now?
I don't know that there's a law, but it's becoming more normal for big survey firms to offer financial compensation for your time.
Gorvi
02-20-2007, 08:20 AM
I don't know that there's a law, but it's becoming more normal for big survey firms to offer financial compensation for your time.
If they're offering monetary compensation of only a dollar or two, you'd think that would only be because they have to by law provide something. Really, who goes out of their way for anything that small these days?
menage
02-20-2007, 08:31 AM
FFXIII on the other hand would hurt Sony a great deal, particularly in Japan where the Wii has been outselling the PS3.
Thta doesn't really add up in my book. This is true for the US and Europe I think, but do you really think Japs will buy a 360 instead of PS3 if it went multiplatform. Considering the Wii could never handle any type of graphic engine XIII has to offer.
coalhalo
02-20-2007, 09:21 AM
MGS4 is one of the few PS3 titles I've been looking forward to playing, but if Konami makes it multi-platform, I'd end up buying a copy for my 360 instead of the PS3. My wife recently bought a PS3, despite our conversations discussing why we should not, and as nice as that was, I'm wondering if I will ever use it. After playing thru Resistance a few times I ended up popping in God Of War, since my PS2 laser is crapping out and won't read God Of War anymore. And after that I have been going thru a bunch of PS2 games recently on the PS3. I'm not the biggest racing fan, so the Grand Turismo HD and Motorstorm demo downloads don't keep my attention for very long. And after Virtua Fighter 5 I still don't see much content coming for the PS3.
I've been thinking about multi-platform releases over the past week, and trying to figure out which platform would I buy for first. If a new game is released for both PS3 and the 360, what will set them apart, assuming that the versions are nearly identical graphically and contentwise? Since I don't favor any corporation over another, the only thing I came up with is Achievement Points. That will be the deciding factor for me. The Gamerscore feature of the 360 has turned out to be a big hit for MS. Replaying a game to earn Achievement Points gives the gamer more bang for his buck, and that is missing on the PS3.
So. If the long-running MGS4 for 360 rumor turns out to be true, I for one will buy my copy for the 360. And then I'll probably end up selling my PS3. If I can find a buyer that is.
RorschachCCCLX
02-20-2007, 10:15 AM
I don't know how many will agree with me on this, but I can see this adding to the suckage factor for the PS3. If MGS4 becomes a multi-console release, with comparable graphics etc..., who in all honesty is gonna shell out the money for a PS3 (assuming of course that people are buying the PS3 for MGS4. It'd be a selling factor for me).
The fact is, MGS doesn't sell that great. It is acclaimed by critics and has a largeish cult following, but it pails in comparison to the likes of the sports franchices. Who will buy a PS3? all the folks that come into my store wanting Madden 07 and reserve 08 because they think the PS3 has so much better graphics then 360.
the majority of PS3 owners are buying it for a select few sports games and don't care about anything other then the sony brand.
Deunnero
02-20-2007, 10:31 AM
And then I'll probably end up selling my PS3. If I can find a buyer that is.
I see what you did there. :cool:
Who will buy a PS3? all the folks that come into my store wanting Madden 07 and reserve 08 because they think the PS3 has so much better graphics then 360.
the majority of PS3 owners are buying it for a select few sports games and don't care about anything other then the sony brand.
I put this question to the EB folks here at work, and well over half, yes that's right 50%, said that they got the PS3 for 2K7/Madden/Racing games and didn't plan on using it for much else. Of course, these are the people that make way too much money and whose idea of a small display is 50".
As for Metal Gear ... i'll play on my NES, thank you.
Balthasar
02-20-2007, 10:35 AM
The fact is, MGS doesn't sell that great. It is acclaimed by critics and has a largeish cult following, but it pails in comparison to the likes of the sports franchices.
If that statement were true, it would be true of just about any other game as well, which would imply that the only thing that really matters is where the sports games go. All the data out there show this conclusion to be completely incorrect. You should also remember that its very rare for any sports franchise to be console-specific, making your conclusion even more preposterous.
Gorvi
02-20-2007, 10:38 AM
the majority of PS3 owners are buying it for a select few sports games and don't care about anything other then the sony brand.
Then I am waaaaaaay outside of the norm then, no sports game will ever enter my PS3 other than maybe a new SSX.
fitbabits
02-20-2007, 10:39 AM
Then I am waaaaaaay outside of the norm then, no sports game will ever enter my PS3 other than maybe a new SSX.
One time when you're not looking, I'm going to load FIFA, Madden, et al on your PS3. :)
RorschachCCCLX
02-20-2007, 11:43 AM
If that statement were true, it would be true of just about any other game as well, which would imply that the only thing that really matters is where the sports games go. All the data out there show this conclusion to be completely incorrect. You should also remember that its very rare for any sports franchise to be console-specific, making your conclusion even more preposterous.
Its not about console exclusive as it is brand identiy. to the causal gamer, Sony is seen as the superior brand of concoles, so sports and causal gamers will (and have, as I've seen in my store) go with the idea that if its on the PS3 it *must* be better...despite what the reviews have said..
Most of the market is causal gamers. thats why Madden has been selling in the top 5 since August and Okami and Psychonaughts has been languishing in sales hell.
Gorvi
02-20-2007, 11:45 AM
One time when you're not looking, I'm going to load FIFA, Madden, et al on your PS3. :)
Booooooo! That's just wrong! ;)
Balthasar
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
Its not about console exclusive as it is brand identiy.
This argument is nonsense, has no evidence to back it up, and is being proven wrong every time a new sales chart is released. "Brand name" doesn't explain why Microsoft's system is selling like shit in Japan, PS3 is having middling success, and Nintendo is wiping the floor with both of them. Nintendo is not a bigger brand than either of them. Not even in Japan. Nor does it explain why the Wii is selling better in the U.S. than the PS3. And, again, Madden is on every major system, so that argument holds no water either.
Son Gokuu
02-20-2007, 04:11 PM
Yep, i would like to see Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360 and I'd buy it for that game.
RorschachCCCLX
02-20-2007, 08:52 PM
This argument is nonsense, has no evidence to back it up, and is being proven wrong every time a new sales chart is released. "Brand name" doesn't explain why Microsoft's system is selling like shit in Japan, PS3 is having middling success, and Nintendo is wiping the floor with both of them. Nintendo is not a bigger brand than either of them. Not even in Japan. Nor does it explain why the Wii is selling better in the U.S. than the PS3. And, again, Madden is on every major system, so that argument holds no water either.
The reason for that in the US is simple, the was seen as the must have of the christmas season and is cheaper then the PS3. I'm looking at 360 v. PS3 and so far, the consensous from my customers is they love the PS3 because of their experinces with the PS2. Brand is *the* reason why Sony will beat Microsoft. The gamecube and N64 both faded fast following its first few months, there are indications the wii could suffer a simular fate.
one thing the wii has going for it is so far 3rd party games have sold at least moderately well and have been feature titles for the system.
Thta doesn't really add up in my book. This is true for the US and Europe I think, but do you really think Japs will buy a 360 instead of PS3 if it went multiplatform. Considering the Wii could never handle any type of graphic engine XIII has to offer.
That's true, but I still believe that it would hurt the PS3's value in the eyes of the Japanese consumer as the franchise is still considered THE killer app for the system. It might not do a great deal of damage initially, but the effect will be a time bomb for the next FF title; one that would benefit MS.
You bring up a good point about the Wii.. is the average consumer really aware that the system is considerably inferior technologically?
On a side note, you might want to refrain from using short terminology like "Japs".
Balthasar
02-20-2007, 09:08 PM
The reason for that in the US is simple, the was seen as the must have of the christmas season and is cheaper then the PS3.
Which company has the most next gen consoles sold to date?
Which of the two recently released consoles is selling the best currently?
Any other comparison is ignoring facts to support a false theory.
Solomann
02-21-2007, 03:03 AM
Hi
Yes Yes :) Game Metal Gear Solid 4 xbox 360 :p
Mfg.Solomann
Germany
TrackZero
02-21-2007, 03:04 AM
Any other comparison is ignoring facts to support a false theory.
But grasping at straws is always more challenging. ;) Some people enjoy a challenge.
DangerousDaze
02-21-2007, 03:18 AM
It was an invitation-only survey. My wife got paid one dollar for her opinions.
I'm guessing Penn, Scheon & Berland Associates. Microsoft is listed as one of their customers.
fitbabits
02-22-2007, 10:06 AM
FYI - This story has now been picked up by Yahoo! UK (http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/72/news/metal-gear-for-360-e41d72.html), so those accusing me of making this up are once again way off base.
Balthasar
02-22-2007, 10:14 AM
FYI - This story has now been picked up by Yahoo! UK (http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/72/news/metal-gear-for-360-e41d72.html), so those accusing me of making this up are once again way off base.
Not that I am in that camp, but you can't say "once again" until you can give us something substantial about the supposed Capcom buyout.
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