Pure Evil - Pure Crack(down)

[Evil Avatar]

bapenguin and I just finished playing the Crackdown demo in co-op mode and all I can say is "Holy Pre-order, Batman!" We just had a complete blast, blowing up cars, pedestrians, enemies and each other. Forget about ordering Crackdown to get into the Halo 3 beta, I'm ordering Crackdown to get to play Crackdown.

I think it was a good decision to bundle the Halo 3 beta with Crackdown, while they could have saved the Halo 3 beta for a throw away title that no one would ever play, by bundling it with Crackdown they will ensure that a good title gets a ton of exposure that otherwise would have cost them big bucks in advertising.

Kudos to the marketing people who thought up that bundle and double kudos to Real Time Worlds (http://www.realtimeworlds.com/) for creating a fantastic title.

[fitbabits]

I heartily agree. I'm getting Crackdown for Crackdown. I have little interest in the Halo 3 Beta - I've played enough of the Crackdown demo to know that's it's a must buy!

Edit - will one of you guys play with me some time? :(

[Wadmaasi]

I'm gonna ignore the huge "KICK ME" sign fitba stuck on himself and just say that, having never played any of the GTA games or their clones, I will definitely be buying Crackdown...eventually. Too many games (PS2/360/DS) that need catching up on.

[Inspector Fowler]

I also have no interest in Halo 3 MP beta...I like the Halo story okay but the MP isn't my thing at all.

I LOVE Crackdown...I even have had dreams about it, I'm so excited.

I love: The emphasis on being a good guy instead of bad
The destruction
The true open-endedness- do things how you want, when you want- missions aren't in a forced order, and you can accomplish them however you need to.
The super powers that make you actually feel super-powered.
The fact that mission DO affect the world- kill a recruiter and there are less gang members, kill the finance guy and they can't afford expensive guns, etc.
The co-op that means twice the bad-guy murdering action.

My buddy is so excited he is trying to get out of a FUNERAL on Tuesday to play Crackdown all day!

[SeriousStu]

If I could give away the Halo 3 beta key I'll be getting, I would. I'm getting Crackdown for Crackdown.

I just hope play.com deliver on the day of release (I'm thinking of cancelling the order and just buying it off the shelf).

[fitbabits]

I'm gonna ignore the huge "KICK ME" sign fitba stuck on himself and just say that, having never played any of the GTA games or their clones, I will definitely be buying Crackdown...eventually. Too many games (PS2/360/DS) that need catching up on.
I've played pretty much all the GTA games and haven't really felt invested in them at all. Sure, they're fun for 10 minutes or so, but I find them to be ultimately boring. Yet I LOVE Just Cause and Crackdown. Odd, I know.

[Grimmjow]

I must be the only person in the world , who doesn't like Halo nor Crackdown

[Wolvie]

I just paid my copy off. Can't wait till Wednesday!

[saneman]

I must be the only person in the world , who doesn't like Halo nor Crackdown

I wonder if the people who say things like "I must be the only person who X" ever actually believe that.

Anyway the game looks good. GTA-style play with MP is yet another of the mounting reasons for me to get a 360.

[Grimmjow]

I wonder if the people who say things like "I must be the only person who X" ever actually believe that.

Anyway the game looks good. GTA-style play with MP is yet another of the mounting reasons for me to get a 360.

:rolleyes: *Sign*

[Sandman]

There are two things I love doing in the Crackdown demo.....1) beefing up my stregnth so I don't need guns ever and 2) leveling my agility. Who needs guns and cars?

[nnanji]

I just paid my copy off. Can't wait till Wednesday!


Why are you waiting until Wednesday? The game is street dated for the 20th, and most companies receive street dated materials before the actual date. I know the Gamestop I pre-ordered mine at already has them, I just can't convince the manager to give it to me early. ;)

I've been waiting for Crackdown since I first read about it. I don't care about Halo 3, and the GTA games bore the piss out of me. But for some reason just the premise of Crackdown is enough to get my palms as sweaty as a priest's at a choir practice.

[Evil Avatar]

One of the things that bapenguin and I noticed was that in co-op play both of us could have independent vehicles. Is that a co-op first? It certainly isn't something you see every day. The two of us rushing down the freeway in Police cars with the lights flashing certainly was one of those memorable gaming moments.

What was even funnier was when both of us climbed into one of those Japanese style mini-cars. After both our characters jumped into the car I sad, "Wii would like to play." and we both started laughing.

[Sonic Wang]

I'm getting it for both (both Crackdown and Halo 3 Beta), but i don't think i'll have as much fun in Crackdown as i did in Saints Row. From playing the demo, i didn't like the driving model, the gun mechanic and the massive lack of side missions or anything to do apart from the main game.

[Psykoboy2]

I'll play with you Fitba...in co-op.

[nnanji]

What was even funnier was when both of us climbed into one of those Japanese style mini-cars. After both our characters jumped into the car I sad, "Wii would like to play." and we both started laughing.


That's hilarious. Made me and my girl crack up. Thanks for that.


From playing the demo, i didn't like the driving model, the gun mechanic and the massive lack of side missions or anything to do apart from the main game.

The driving and gun models are one of the things I really liked in the demo. Saint's Row had good driving, but I hated the driving in the GTA games. The Agency Supercar was a blast, especially with a couple of stars under your belt.

The shooting I really liked. It's not perfect, but I love locking on, shooting my target in the legs while I leap at him form 100 feet straight up. Grabbing his body and throwing him at his friends. Blowing out tires and watching cars flip, you name it.

[J3DI]

I'll be picking it up as soon as it hits as well... I'll head over to BB though... I'm done with GS/EB.

Also don't forget about Realtime Worlds' other xbox360 game that'll be coming soon (I hope)...

http://www.apb.com/

[Wolvie]

Why are you waiting until Wednesday? The game is street dated for the 20th, and most companies receive street dated materials before the actual date. I know the Gamestop I pre-ordered mine at already has them, I just can't convince the manager to give it to me early. ;)

I've been waiting for Crackdown since I first read about it. I don't care about Halo 3, and the GTA games bore the piss out of me. But for some reason just the premise of Crackdown is enough to get my palms as sweaty as a priest's at a choir practice.

:eek: My local Gamestop's manager and I are pretty tight, so I bet he'd give me the game if they got it before Wednesday. TY for the tip. :D

[Wolvie]

One of the things that bapenguin and I noticed was that in co-op play both of us could have independent vehicles. Is that a co-op first? It certainly isn't something you see every day. The two of us rushing down the freeway in Police cars with the lights flashing certainly was one of those memorable gaming moments.

What was even funnier was when both of us climbed into one of those Japanese style mini-cars. After both our characters jumped into the car I sad, "Wii would like to play." and we both started laughing.

Ok, that "Wii would like to play." bit was funny as hell. A bonus was laugh was had by my wife too. :D

[Slack3r78]

Hm... definitely need to keep an eye on this. If I keep hearing good things, it's going on the list of things to pick up in May when I get a 360 along with Forza 2. I love this kind of game and this sounds like a blast.

[rjcc]

One of the things that bapenguin and I noticed was that in co-op play both of us could have independent vehicles. Is that a co-op first? It certainly isn't something you see every day. The two of us rushing down the freeway in Police cars with the lights flashing certainly was one of those memorable gaming moments.

What was even funnier was when both of us climbed into one of those Japanese style mini-cars. After both our characters jumped into the car I sad, "Wii would like to play." and we both started laughing.

also of note is that when you're in the same car, you hear the same music playing.

[Your Good Twin]

Well, I picked up the game from a local comics/hobby/game shop yesterday. Really funny too because it has a blatant orange seal on the top spine that says "NOT TO BE SOLD BEFORE 02/20/07".

It's pretty fun, but I think I need to turn the difficulty up. So far, in a 3 hour sitting I've beaten all of 1 of the 3 gangs. And as far as I know, just wiping out the gangs is the only story objectives. I don't want this to be another Gears of War where I beat it in a couple days. Starting to wish I hadn't paid full price for it. Finding markers and doing races is nice, but I guess I'm used to a GTA-style game with a long storyline and tons of variety in side missions.

[Camtron]

The hours I've put into the Crackdown demo might outweigh those I put into Gears of War Co op (not a fan of the multiplayer aside from this). I can't wait for the game on Tuesday. Leveling jumping is tons of fun when you get to the point of clearing buildings. Explosives when you can just clear a building with two nades. And for everyone who thinks leveling driving is worthless (I was one of those people at first), max out your driving skills and then get into the truck cab and drive while holding down B. Awesome.

[felix]

I think I must be missing something about this game. I gave the game several attempts, but I didn't see much that brought me in. Since you guys are praising the game so, I think I'll give it a more in depth look,.

I prefer non-linear gameplay, however this game seemed to offer that, and not much else. I'll check it out more, and hopefully I'll see what you guys see.

[Savok]

The thing about Crackdown, you have to develop your skills, the stronger you get, the more fun it is, otherwise it is fairly generic. I've yet to play it co-op, pestering of friends has failed me in that regard. I crave.

[Vaginasaurus]

It's pretty fun, but I think I need to turn the difficulty up. So far, in a 3 hour sitting I've beaten all of 1 of the 3 gangs. And as far as I know, just wiping out the gangs is the only story objectives. I don't want this to be another Gears of War where I beat it in a couple days. Starting to wish I hadn't paid full price for it. Finding markers and doing races is nice, but I guess I'm used to a GTA-style game with a long storyline and tons of variety in side missions.

Man, are you in for a disappointment then. The game is admittedly short (5-10 hours to beat it, I hear), and you're not getting much a story from it (if that matters at all to you) because all you do is kill the gang leaders and there's only around 10 of those. It's still a fun game, but if you're looking for something long lasting, you should have gone the rental route with Crackdown.

Personally, I'll probably buy it once it hits the bargain bins. It's not worth the $60 price of admission

[Goronmon]

I wish people would stop mentioning this game so that I don't keep getting the urge to buy it. Bastards.

[Jack B]

I wish people who talk about the length of a game, would qualify the statement by letting everyone know which difficulty level they had the game set to... Settings from Easy to Normal to Hard to Insane or similar can have dramatically different game lengths.

Personally, I always want the maximum challenge. Some people get frustrated if they have to try more than a couple times on a level. Most games are really short on lower difficulty levels and if they aren't really short, then it's typically filled with monotonous activities. I'm not into 100 hours of level grinds. Different strokes for different folks.

My son always read the last page of a book first... It was a strange thing to do, IMO. He just wanted to get to the end as quickly as possible, so he figured, why not just read the last page. I guess he had a point in a sense.... I wanted the experience to last if it was a good one, so I'd try to extend the experience instead of shorten it. Playing on easy shortens it. My son likes that. I don't. I want the challenge.

[TrackZero]

Yeah, I loved the Crackdown demo. Only problem is, I'm trying to save money right now. But I will definitely grab this one down the road.

[Vaginasaurus]

I wish people who talk about the length of a game, would qualify the statement by letting everyone know which difficulty level they had the game set to... Settings from Easy to Normal to Hard to Insane or similar can have dramatically different game lengths.

If it's any consolation, when I brought up the game's short length, I was basing it off my friend's discussion of it with me. He managed to snag a copy before the official release, played it yesterday, and said he finished the whole "story" in about 6 hours.

Now, I'm not sure if there's differing difficulty levels in this particular game, but I know for a fact that my friend always plays everything on medium, given the option. Maybe this bit of information will help you out a bit.

[Savok]

I think some of you people are missing the point of a sandbox game as well.

First, lets take a close look at what a sandbox is. It's a box with sand in it, there's some buckets and shovels and maybe even a toy truck. Five minutes later you've played with everything, is it now automatically boring? Not to anyone with an imagination.

[opusdeath]

I think some of you people are missing the point of a sandbox game as well.

First, lets take a close look at what a sandbox is. It's a box with sand in it, there's some buckets and shovels and maybe even a toy truck. Five minutes later you've played with everything, is it now automatically boring? Not to anyone with an imagination.

That was really well put Savok. Totally agree.

[Evil Avatar]

For a long time I've been in the "if a game is really short I'm not buying it" category, but I find my gaming time more limited these days (due to the 12 hour shifts we work) and so I totally lost that whole thing. A 10 - 15 hour game for you guys will probably take me 20 to play anyway (I'm big into any side quests and just messing around.).

When it comes to RPG's, I still prefer to see a 40+ hour playtime, because I think that is why you are buying a RPG, to dig into it and build your character over time, but when it comes to action titles I don't mind the shorter playtime.

Is it worth $75.00 (cost + shipping) for a 10 hour game? Probably not, but when I play it for 10 - 15 hours single player and then another 10 - 15 co-op, I'm sure I'll end up getting my money out of it.

[Your Good Twin]

I always play on the default setting of difficulty. Whatever the game automatically puts it on, I assume that to be the reasonable challenge. Casual, with just enough challenge to have to do some things over a few times.

The default level on this game is, oddly, set on the lowest of 3 settings. I left it there because that's what came up, but I think people should knock it up to the second setting. Would force a little more strategy in taking dudes out, as opposed to my current tactic of "Just run out with no regard for surroundings and just kill whatever's there."

[Lekon]

I'd play with fit's, but he's not on my friend list, and is so popular that *gasp* his list is full. Wii would like to play Fitty!

[Disgustipated]

I'm gonna try to go to Best Buy and trick them into giving it to me early tomorrow. I've been wanting this game ever since I touched the demo. The Halo 3 beta is just an awesome bonus.

Edit: About the difficulty... I think I'm gonna go with the hardest difficulty first, just to get the max out of the game.

[Jedi Beast]

Evil(or anyone for that matter). I will play with you any time day or night. Send me a PM and I'll be there. I know how to have some fun with the Crackdown demo, I'm pretty sure I've played it more than I will play the retail version, which I have preordered. Get four stars in driving then use the agency vehicles...the car gets machine guns, the SUV gets the power to jump, and the semi gets a speed boost...better than PGR3.

[Deadend]

The only bad thing about Crackdown is that gangs disappear and get weaker as you take out leaders. Well, as long as it has a New Game+ so I can carry over my stats but have a fresh city to kill in, I will be happy.

[Vandenh]

Good to see all the Halo whiner emo kiddies are out in full force.

I am getting Crackdown because it is an awesome game. The Halo 3 beta is a bonus that makes it more awesome. Like Evil said... brilliant idea packing in Halo 3 beta with a brilliant game.

[JRR006]

*cry* I was so psyched for this game until I learned of the lack of split-screen co-op play. I don't really use Live for anything but downloading demos - the entire co-op aspect of Crackdown is useless to me, and for some reason that was what I was most excited about. I thought the demo was awesome, but... but no split-screen.

It's not a deal breaker, I guess, but it has certainly made the title much more resistable.

[manu_pkp]

It's one of my most played games of late. Just finished reviewing it (gave it 5 stars out of five) for a small website. I've spent over 10 hours just jumping around collecting the orbs and climbing on buildings, the last 2 hours went to figure out how to get on top of the Agency building - there's an achievement there. Great game, great fun and the game engine is hugely impressive. I never seriously got into GTA's... Crackdown is a better game in my books.

[KamaItachi]

I've gone on about this game at length in every thread about it. Loved the demo, loved, loved, loved the co-op. I can't fucking wait 'til my copy arrives in the post.

[Kem0sabe]

Crackdown is not bad at what it tries to do, i.e a sandbox type game, but i prefer the GTA games by far, the added story, which crackdown has none, and the variety of music stations/transportation, even saints row makes for a better game.

One thing that really impressed me was how smooth the demo played, little to no slowdowns with such a clipping range.

[bapenguin]

Everytime I've played the demo co-op I've had a complete blast, and pretty much a completely different experience every time. I think that's what seems to be the greatest thing with Crackdown, there's just so much freedom. Plus the game is very vertical.

Of course, the biggest thing is the game has plenty of geek moments, whether it's jumping from roomtop to rooftop to take out people, jumping out of a flying car and landing smack in the middle of a firefight, or spin kicking 3 guys off the ledge of a building.

[BadCRC]

That's what I was saying about Crackdown all along! I had my doubts too, but after playing the Demo. IT'S GREAT FUN! and a must buy!

[II Comrade II]

Crackdown(Full Game) is OK but the game is way to short. Basically 2/3 of the game is just powering up. After you beat the Boss's which shouldnt take more then 3 days the game is old and there is really no replay value. Plus the Orb collecting is just a cheep way to add gameplay. Just like Kem0Sabe said there is really no story your just basically killing mob leaders because there bad.

P.S. I'm #1 in the the Single Player Time Trail Leaderboards for everything :p
It's one of my most played games of late. Just finished reviewing it (gave it 5 stars out of five) for a small website. I've spent over 10 hours just jumping around collecting the orbs and climbing on buildings, the last 2 hours went to figure out how to get on top of the Agency building - there's an achievement there. Great game, great fun and the game engine is hugely impressive. I never seriously got into GTA's... Crackdown is a better game in my books.
Crackdown is def more fun to play then any GTA. But overall the added stroy and side-quests plus good radio stations of GTA completely own crackdown's medicore plot. No offense but if you know anythng about games there is no way crackdown deserves a 5, 3 max just cuz its fun to play.

[Oddmaker]

This game rocks! I'm actully on the last island agaist a chinese guy, but i cant climb the building untill i get my jumping skills up :(

[menage]

I really don't understand all the hype and positivity on this title. It's just as clumsy and seen that done that as Lost Planet is. No story (so no motivation to keep shooting and jumping, which is all this game seems to be), soso graphics (engine is alright, but the art is terrible), drab music (I've heard better elevator music), awful targetting, etc etc.

Goes back to playing Okami.

[Dr.Finger]

So, who's up for Crackdown Mondays?

[fitbabits]

So, who's up for Crackdown Mondays?
Works for me. Gives people enough time after the launch on Tuesday to get acclimated to the ins and outs of the game.

[TheDancinMan]

I wasn't so sure about Crackdown after I played the demo. I mean, it seemed fun, but it didn't grab me that much. It was just sorta, there.

But considering the stellar reviews coming from you all, I might reconsider. I think I need to try co-op with someone before I get hooked in, since that seems to be a common element with everyone.

As for the Halo 3 beta, I don't care. Not that I don't want to play, it's that I'm already in it. Hoo-ah.

[II Comrade II]

I wasn't so sure about Crackdown after I played the demo. I mean, it seemed fun, but it didn't grab me that much. It was just sorta, there.

But considering the stellar reviews coming from you all, I might reconsider. I think I need to try co-op with someone before I get hooked in, since that seems to be a common element with everyone.

As for the Halo 3 beta, I don't care. Not that I don't want to play, it's that I'm already in it. Hoo-ah.
There is no way to get hooked into it because the game will be over before you know it.
Works for me. Gives people enough time after the launch on Tuesday to get acclimated to the ins and outs of the game.
You don't relize how shallow the game is do you? The closest thing to being an in/out of the game is jumping on windows.

[fitbabits]

You don't relize how shallow the game is do you? The closest thing to being an in/out of the game is jumping on windows.
Ahhhhh, evidently not. Let me say this - I've played the demo many times and enjoyed it each and every time. I've also found something different to do each time I've played it. So terribly shallow.

[II Comrade II]

Ahhhhh, evidently not. Let me say this - I've played the demo many times and enjoyed it each and every time. I've also found something different to do each time I've played it. So terribly shallow.
So what did you find different between the normal bad guy killing, orb collecting and jumping? Oh wait i forgot there are races you can do.

The closest thing you get to different is one boss where you have to blow up 3 things before you can kill him.

[fitbabits]

So what did you find different between the normal bad guy killing, orb collecting and jumping? Oh wait i forgot there are races you can do.

The closest thing you get to different is one boss where you have to blow up 3 things before you can kill him.
Why you're trying to get me to dislike the game is beyond me, but have at it nonetheless. You don't like it. I do like it. Life goes on and history will show that no-one really cared either way. If you want to feel really good about yourself, donate $60 to your favorite charity.

[Darkkoji]

The two of us rushing down the freeway in Police cars with the lights flashing certainly was one of those memorable gaming moments.

Nothing beats having one friend on top of the car while you're driving...I just love that! I am getting this game for Crackdown...the Halo 3 beta is a plus for me. I am so glad I pre-ordered!

[Darkkoji]

I really don't understand all the hype and positivity on this title. It's just as clumsy and seen that done that as Lost Planet is. No story (so no motivation to keep shooting and jumping, which is all this game seems to be), soso graphics (engine is alright, but the art is terrible), drab music (I've heard better elevator music), awful targetting, etc etc.

Goes back to playing Okami.

I like the idea of being a cop, not a thug. I hated GTA games because you were always on the wrong side of the law IMHO. But this game truely gives you a choice to blow up civs or gangs and you can jump off buildings and blow up stuff...Sunday morning values, Saturday morning fun! lol.

[Ludoc]

I loved the demo and had a blast every time I played it. I think I only tried taking out gang leaders once. There was so much to see and do. Collecting the orbs was a tonne of fun; seeing a cluster of orbs on a building corner and then trying to find a way up was what I spent half my time doing in the demo. I can see myself spending a lot of time with the game.

Plus the fact that there are so many ways to accomplish the missions really makes me happy. Want to drive through the front gate guns blazing? Do it. Want to sit back and snipe guys? OK. Want to Sneak in the back? Alright. Want to jump down from the roof tops dropping grenades like candy from a broken pinata? Give 'er. I really enjoy games that adjust themselves to my style of play as opposed to those that force me to play exactly the same way the developers do.

[Psykoboy2]

I played the demo late last night and really just had fun with it. Taking a high position near a road and taking out the tires of oncoming cars is really a treat to just watch as they flip all over the place.

Taking a car to the top of the parking deck and launching it off, only to jump out, target a guy, wait for the headshot to lock and take him out just as you land was nothing but rewarding.

And then to think I could go back and do this in co-op. Fun stuff.

[GunnyMo]

I'm getting Crackdown for Crackdown and not the Halo 3 beta key. I could honestly care less about Halo 3 multiplayer after the fiasco that was Halo 2. I'll check it out to see how good it looks but otherwise, meh, I'll be spending my time on Crackdown.

My first goal? Get stars in agility. I love jumping every where and getting range kills from atop buildings.

[fitbabits]

I'm getting Crackdown for Crackdown and not the Halo 3 beta key. I could honestly care less about Halo 3 multiplayer after the fiasco that was Halo 2. I'll check it out to see how good it looks but otherwise, meh, I'll be spending my time on Crackdown.

My first goal? Get stars in agility. I love jumping every where and getting range kills from atop buildings.
Arg! COULDN'T care less. Saying you could care less makes no sense in the context you imply. :)

[Psykoboy2]

Arg! COULDN'T care less. Saying you could care less makes no sense in the context you imply. :)

I usually just substitute "I don't give a shit". Gets the point across and does it properly.

Hey Fits....since you're on, you wanna jump into some Co-Op Crackdown?

[fitbabits]

I usually just substitute "I don't give a shit". Gets the point across and does it properly.

Hey Fits....since you're on, you wanna jump into some Co-Op Crackdown?
I'm listening to a soccer game from Scotland right now, but I may be on afterwards. :)

[Psykoboy2]

Well, I added you on Live, I've only got till about 1 central, then this stupid race thing starts and my TV is taken over. At which point I will retreat to the back rooms, hook up my other 360 finally and continue from there.

[GunnyMo]

Actually, it does. It means I could care less but I've chose not to tell you exactly how much less. :p

Oh, and stuff it Grammar Highlander!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/GunnyMo/grammarhighlander.jpg

[fitbabits]

Actually, it does. It means I could care less but I've chose not to tell you exactly how much less. :p

Oh, and stuff it Grammar Highlander!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/GunnyMo/grammarhighlander.jpg
Ah, Highlander. The only movie where a French actor plays a Scot and a Scot plays a Spaniard! :confused:

[Zecon]

Ah, Highlander. The only movie where a French actor plays a Scot and a Scot plays a Spaniard! :confused:
Wow never realized that.
I'll be hosting a game here in a few, though.
You pretty much have to host, because most of the time people will boot you for the friend they are waiting for
Here are A few things I hope they add to the full game thats not in the demo:
A level after 4 (for collecting all the orbs maybe?)
The ability to change my x/y sensitivity(because it's a bit slow)

I hope they add lots of DL content support, to keep the game fresh after I beat it. Well I'm off to grab that grenade launcher to get my explosives level up!

[LexeL]

could care less
is sarcasm

could care less
same point, no sarcasm

[Jack B]

Why you're trying to get me to dislike the game is beyond me, but have at it nonetheless. You don't like it. I do like it. Life goes on and history will show that no-one really cared either way. If you want to feel really good about yourself, donate $60 to your favorite charity.

Now that was a classic retort. Touche! :D

I never played the GTA games or Saint's Row. Something about the thug motivation just isn't there for me. Call me old school, but when we played cops and robbers, I choose cops.

Since, I'm not a sandbox guy, I'm a poor judge of it's quality in the genre, but my girlfriend and I played about the demo 3 times through and she loved it as much as me. That's saying a lot and she'd have never played Saints Row. She thinks like Clive Owens in the movie Inside Man. She looks at GTA games as gratuitous violence. Crackdown was shooting bad guys, so it was OK for her.

I've said this before. I won't play games on easy, so I'd likely be challenged a lot by Crackdown on psychotic. I'll probably get it, but I doubt I'll finish it. My guess is 12-15 hours and I'll move on to something else.

If you think it will be "short", then play it on psychotic. My guess is 90% of people complaining about game length play games below the hardest difficulty level.

[Jedi Beast]

Ah, Highlander. The only movie where a French actor plays a Scot and a Scot plays a Spaniard! :confused:

or the prestige where an aussie plays an american and an american plays a brit.

[PXG 360]

I actually want Crackdown and the Halo 3 Beta. I absolultely loved the demo. I have it all paid for. Tuesday can't come soon enough!

[president_fred]

or the prestige where an aussie plays an american and an american plays a brit.
Christain Bale is Welsh. So he is a Brit.

[RestlessAvenger]

Evil had suggested a 100% achievement contest sometime ago. I still think this would be a great game for that.

[Schnoogs]

Christain Bale is Welsh. So he is a Brit.

Quoted for truth

Braveheart is no better...many of them were americans playing scots or Irishman playing scots. Why cant they get scots to play scots? ;)

[Mantooth]

Quoted for truth

Braveheart is no better...many of them were americans playing scots or Irishman playing scots. Why cant they get scots to play scots? ;)

So we can understand what they are saying. ;)

[easi]

Fucking agility orbs. I'm down to the final 5. Without using a guide.

[Paranoia]

So we can understand what they are saying. ;)

Didn't have problems understanding Ewen McGregor in Star Wars. :D

[Chameleo]

is this the GTA that the original xbox missed out on?!

seems the tables are turned this gen!

[bapenguin]

Evil had suggested a 100% achievement contest sometime ago. I still think this would be a great game for that.

Yeah that's not a bad idea. This one is a pretty good candidate.

[epyon]

I agree, I was a bit skeptical of crackdown untill playing the demo, then I had to preorder it.

[nnanji]

Yeah that's not a bad idea. This one is a pretty good candidate.


Would it be to the 900 points it comes with? I thought they were adding the last 100 points later via free downkoad?

[vexvegaz]

i agree with most of the EvAv members here, crackdown is fuckin cool. piling/lining up a bunch of cars to do a street long explosion is fun, ALOT of fun

anyways...called my local vid game store and see if they have it n if they would be willing to sell me a couple b4 the release date, and luckily enough...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/vexvegaz/PIC-0040.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/vexvegaz/PIC-0042.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/vexvegaz/PIC-0041.jpg

wow... :)
no more 30min limit FTW!

[Kamalot]

I think some of you people are missing the point of a sandbox game as well.

First, lets take a close look at what a sandbox is. It's a box with sand in it, there's some buckets and shovels and maybe even a toy truck. Five minutes later you've played with everything, is it now automatically boring? Not to anyone with an imagination.
Woah. This was insightful! Thanks! :)

[menage]

****** had a link with the same thing, releasedates broken, etc, etc.

Releasedates are fine, but 2 weeks lying around in a storeroom? I don't understand it. Something to do with te Halo 3 thing?

[Testcase]

Didn't have problems understanding Ewen McGregor in Star Wars. :D

The trouble is getting together enough sober Scots... :D

[Kelegacy]

Crackdown sounds like a wonderful rental. At 60 bucks, it's a bit too short for a purchase.

One weekend soon I'm grabbing Lost Planet and Crackdown with my XBox diamond card. 8 bucks for two short games, beat them both in a weekend. Save myself $112!

[ProfPuppet]

I actually enjoyed the Crackdown demo a lot more than the full version of Lost Planet. Though I really wish that Crackdown had more of a living city feel to it- interacting with people, different sorts of missions, actually racing other cars for the races, having a story, etc. It's great mindless fun, I just wish there was more to it.

[KamaItachi]

Just out of curiosity, how does the skill system compare, speed-wise to the demo?

In the full retail version do you become unstoppable very quickly or is it something you really have to work at to boost your skills to decent levels?

[GunnyMo]

Like it says at the beginning of the demo, the skill progression is greatly sped up. I'm sure you actually have to work at it to get your skills up in the retail version.

[kurosaki]

Crackdown's the shit! i played the demo so much then went and played the outfit and was like, wheres my 40 feet jumping skills? i asked the guy and micro center ( computer store in only certain states) if they pre-orded crackdown and said no then smirked and said "for the halo 3 beta key?" I looked at him and said " i could give a shit less about halo, its all about crackdown!" woot 2 days away

[easi]

Saying "I could give a shit less" means you actually care. Our language is going to get fucked up if you morons are allowed to continue breeding.

On topic, firearms takes ages to level and maxing it out is actually a pain, because just shooting people is boring when you can come up with so many other ways to kill them, mainly involving strength.

[MrE]

Been playing the demo a lot lately, and I have a BB card burning a hole in my pocket. Now, if said BB would break their street date, I would be playing this tomorrow. But alas, they are adhering to the release date.

[Sazime]

God damnitt. I'm moving out soon and I have no TV or 360. Looks like that needs to change. Soon.

[roboninja]

Damn you Crackdown, making me want to blow cash on a 360....DamnYou!!!!!

[Psykoboy2]

Hmm...I wonder if the no-mail holiday today will throw off the shipments tomorrow for those who ordered online?