Battlefield 2142 All Weapons Unlocked Weekend

[Orz]

Actually running from Friday till midnight Monday, every weapon in BF2142 is currently unlocked. From Battlefield Franchise (http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf/BF2142_News_021307_2.aspx):

Be sure to login and join the battle this weekend! In an effort to let everyone preview all unlocks while playing in a ranked environment we will be granting all soldiers every one of the upgrades over the coming 4 days. Starting Friday and lasting until midnight PST Monday every soldier who logs in will be able to fight it out with every unlock in Battlefield 2142! Jump on and play alongside us during this free for all weekend.

Prelude to 1.20, or the booster pack, perhaps?

[Goronmon]

I feel the urge to get back into this game. I was having CTD issues when it was first released, wonder if they've managed to fix those.

Edit: Though to be honest, most of the weapon unlocks aren't really that amazing. It's more about the supporting tools than anything else.

[Amalor]

Kinda cool to check out all the guns and gear but so far I like the starter guns best. Anyone got any tips to share? Best class/gear?

-Cheers
-Amalor

[Goronmon]

I really enjoyed playing as a sniper. Plus, APMs are awesome when defending and attacking the upper hallways. Though the Carbine is a necessary upgrade if you are going to do either in that kit.

[Adam Blue]

I'd like to get back into this. I went all the way up the assault tree, and am very happy with those weapons. I use squad unlocks for the defib, I won't waste an unlock on that. With this event I'll test out recon with C4 and the assault rifle/smg that you can get later on to replace the sniper rifle. That way it'll be similar to spec ops!

[Klade]

This to me is how the game should have shipped. The first time I got my ass handed to me by a flying hockey puck really turned me off to the game. The idea of grinding in an FPS so that I can compete is pretty much my exact antithesis to the gaming experience. I know a lot of people like it, but a lot of people think pickled herring is good as well. Not saying that pickled herring is a bad idea, its just not for me.

[Goronmon]

That way it'll be similar to spec ops!Yeah, that's why I initially went in that direction, but I'm telling you, APMs are the way to go.

[sprankton]

2142 is such a bad game. Its a shame too...

[Goronmon]

This to me is how the game should have shipped. The first time I got my ass handed to me by a flying hockey puck really turned me off to the game. The idea of grinding in an FPS so that I can compete is pretty much my exact antithesis to the gaming experience. I know a lot of people like it, but a lot of people think pickled herring is good as well. Not saying that pickled herring is a bad idea, its just not for me.The idea of "grinding" in a FPS doesn't really make any sense. Since what you would call "grinding" is the only way you can play the game.

Plus, the unlocks are easy to get, unless you want one character with everything unlocked.

[Goronmon]

2142 is such a bad game. Its a shame too...Really? If it wasn't buggy (as per typical Dice style) I'd say it's prolly the best multiplayer shooter out there right now.

[sprankton]

Really? If it wasn't buggy (as per typical Dice style) I'd say it's prolly the best multiplayer shooter out there right now.

Well i would say BF2 beats 2142 in every aspect. The whole unlock system and the millions of stupid unlocks makes the game blah.

[Adam Blue]

Well i would say BF2 beats 2142 in every aspect. The whole unlock system and the millions of stupid unlocks makes the game blah.

I wouldn't even compare them. The two games play totally different.

But anyway, this thread's obviously not for you.

[Goronmon]

Well i would say BF2 beats 2142 in every aspect. The whole unlock system and the millions of stupid unlocks makes the game blah.You claim BF2 superior, then cite unlocks as one of the reason you hate BF2142? Considering how ridiculously long it took to unlock weapons in BF2, I guess I'm really surprised.

[sprankton]

I wouldn't even compare them. The two games play totally different.

But anyway, this thread's obviously not for you.

It would be hard to compare the games side by side, but BF2 is better (IMO) because you dont need to unlock everything to get the full effect of the game. BF2, like all the other BF games, had a good 'jump in factor' which 2142 does not.

I personally hated unlocks in BF2 (which played so much better without them), because they replaced "skill" with PUB friendly content. I just think its a shame that they did that for the WHOLE game in 2142. Plus they kept the cone of fire in the game. That made me a sad panda :(

You claim BF2 superior, then cite unlocks as one of the reason you hate BF2142? Considering how ridiculously long it took to unlock weapons in BF2, I guess I'm really surprised.

As I said above, you DID NOT need to unlock weapons in BF2 to get the full effect. They were thrown in to help out the kids that need help killing people. Every unlock was basically the same thing as the original gun, but it did more damage and was more accurate.

2142 built the whole game around unlocking weapons and the gadgets.

[Adam Blue]

It would be hard to compare the games side by side, but BF2 is better (IMO) because you dont need to unlock everything to get the full effect of the game. BF2, like all the other BF games, had a good 'jump in factor' which 2142 does not.

I personally hated unlocks in BF2 (which played so much better without them), because they replaced "skill" with PUB friendly content. I just think its a shame that they did that for the WHOLE game in 2142. Plus they kept the cone of fire in the game. That made me a sad panda :(

I think a skilled shooter can overcome any unlock. Unlocks just make the game convenient. They even added a reduction in accuracy with immediate prones.

[Goronmon]

I personally hated unlocks in BF2 (which played so much better without them), because they replaced "skill" with PUB friendly content. I just think its a shame that they did that for the WHOLE game in 2142.I don't know, I find the upgrades in BF2142 to mostly just "flesh-out" the kits, and the weapon unlocks are really more side-grades then upgrades.

[sprankton]

I think a skilled shooter can overcome any unlock. Unlocks just make the game convenient. They even added a reduction in accuracy with immediate prones.

In BF2 i would say yes, hands down. I played BF2 competitively and never used unlocks, but would PUB with people who did. In 2142 its not the same.

I don't know, I find the upgrades in BF2142 to mostly just "flesh-out" the kits, and the weapon unlocks are really more side-grades then upgrades.

True some dont, but the gadgets do. Those motion soccer balls of death made me want to cry. :cool:

[Goronmon]

In BF2 i would say yes, hands down. I played BF2 competitively and never used unlocks, but would PUB with people who did. In 2142 its not the same.That's because BF2142 is designed around using the unlocks. Which I don't find to be a problem, because you level up pretty darn quickly.

[captainstrombosis]

I think a skilled shooter can overcome any unlock. Unlocks just make the game convenient. They even added a reduction in accuracy with immediate prones.

So what can a skilled shooter do with a better gun? :) That arguement works in both cases. It's often the skilled players that make unlocks seem so powerful.

I'm not for or against unlocks. I just hate that line of reasoning. There are much better justifications for unlocks.

[Goronmon]

So what can a skilled shooter do with a better gun?The weapon upgrades in BF2142 aren't really "better" in a sense. Take the Recon kit. The Carbine is nothing special other than it allows you to have an option for a close combat weapon other than the pistol (you start out with only a sniper rifle). The Sniper rifle unlock does a bit more damage, but you go from a 5 to a 3 round clip and the scope is smaller as well.

[OrangePulp]

Half the unlockable weapons in that game aren't even upgrades. Example: I personally prefer the standard sniper rifle over the unlocked one; unlocked sniper rifle has a shitty red-tinted scope, and 2 less bullets. It can kill light armored guys in one shot, woo! Too bad hardly anyone uses light armor. It can shoot claymores and whatnot, but you're generally not assaulting with this weapon.

The thing about unlocks is that it doesn't take much to get the first 6 or so, especially if you experience playing battlefield games. Combine that with the fact that you can have four separate handles under your account, each with it's own unlock portfolio, and you can end up with a handle that has max in each of the trees. Other than some of the early unlocks that add vital abilities to your class (the aforementioned APMs come to mind), the only benefit you get out of having a lot more unlocks is versatility. IE: switching from a fully equipped recon to a fully equipped assault, if the situation demands it.

[easi]

More like Betafield.

[blankoboy]

Frontlines: Fuel of War will smoke this pos game. Desert Combat rules! ;)

[easi]

I've never heard of that. Lynch the shill.

[Goronmon]

Frontlines: Fuel of War will smoke this pos game. Desert Combat rules! ;)I'll take my threads shill-free please. Thanks.

[captainstrombosis]

The weapon upgrades in BF2142 aren't really "better" in a sense. Take the Recon kit. The Carbine is nothing special other than it allows you to have an option for a close combat weapon other than the pistol (you start out with only a sniper rifle). The Sniper rifle unlock does a bit more damage, but you go from a 5 to a 3 round clip and the scope is smaller as well.

Actually I agree. Much like the weapon unlocks in BF2, they arn't that much better. If at all.

I was only argueing against his line of justification. Not unlocks themselves.

[sprankton]

The weapon upgrades in BF2142 aren't really "better" in a sense. Take the Recon kit. The Carbine is nothing special other than it allows you to have an option for a close combat weapon other than the pistol (you start out with only a sniper rifle). The Sniper rifle unlock does a bit more damage, but you go from a 5 to a 3 round clip and the scope is smaller as well.

Thiats kind of my point. I can understand unlocking a better weapon, but instead in BF2142 you are unlocking content that should be available out of the gate.

[defiant]

I'll take my threads shill-free please. Thanks.

Too bad he speaks the truth. Fuel of War will stomp betafield into the ground

[Klade]

To anyone who thinks unlocks in BF2142 are not necessary to play the game.. Well I have some bad news. You are completely delusional. There is no other word for it. Perhaps its simply been so long since you played without any unlocks but let me refresh your memory.

Grenades are an unlock!!! Hell you can't even blow shit up properly till after you have unlocked the right mine or demolition pack. Basically everything the original battlefield game and even BF2 would give you right away you have to play for 12 hours before you can use in BF2142, and thats for one character. This is absolutely fantastic to the hardcore player who will put in this time naturally. It also completely sucks for the casual gamer who plays with strangers who are also probably casual players and also do not have these unlocks.

BF2142 did an excellent job of telling the casual FPS player to fuck off, which is why I'm not a big fan. BF2 is a better game, but I still had a lot more fun with the original BF1942 in conquest and later Desert Combat then either of the sequels.

[Goronmon]

BF2142 did an excellent job of telling the casual FPS player to fuck off, which is why I'm not a big fan.Unlocks are super easy to get...

[Dirty Harry]

More like Betafield.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH:3

[bKangy]

How kind of them, letting you play with the content you already paid for!

[Neon Wraith]

To anyone who thinks unlocks in BF2142 are not necessary to play the game.. Well I have some bad news. You are completely delusional. There is no other word for it. Perhaps its simply been so long since you played without any unlocks but let me refresh your memory.

Grenades are an unlock!!! Hell you can't even blow shit up properly till after you have unlocked the right mine or demolition pack. Basically everything the original battlefield game and even BF2 would give you right away you have to play for 12 hours before you can use in BF2142, and thats for one character. This is absolutely fantastic to the hardcore player who will put in this time naturally. It also completely sucks for the casual gamer who plays with strangers who are also probably casual players and also do not have these unlocks.

BF2142 did an excellent job of telling the casual FPS player to fuck off, which is why I'm not a big fan. BF2 is a better game, but I still had a lot more fun with the original BF1942 in conquest and later Desert Combat then either of the sequels.


I'm a casual player and i've had the game since november. With the bonus I have earned from getting badges I have completely opend up all of my unlocks except for 4. Even then If you work with a squad you can get field upgrades, so with about 5 minutes of play I can have every item available to me.

Heck I even still use some of the starting weapons because they perform in a way that I prefer in certain situations. No weapon is vastly superior in this game, for every advantage ther is a disadvantage. Take for instance the Assult kit weapons... The baur hits hard but has a limited capacity and crappy accuracy when full auto. The Voss has higher capacity and accuracy but at a cost of stopping power. The standard weapon bridges the 2, so which one puts a new player at a disadvantage?

Another things you may have not relized is that it takes about 1/3 the time to get an unlock in BF2142 as comparred to BF2. So in my mind that makes it a little more friendly for the casual player.

And that BS about unlocking grenades, is just that, BS. What I think you are trying to refer to is the unlock that gives you extra grenades. All kits start with grenades and all the basic equipment they need to fill their roles.

its a fun game, not a great one, but it is still fun. I still feel like its just a mod of BF2 but it seems to occupy that 1 hour a night i get to play games during the week.

[Vulture]

okay Recon getting a lt. assault rifle makes that kit work for Titan D.

Assault's two unlock rifles are totally different. The small, large mag one works for Titan's close in. And the Bauer is my weapon of choice for City Maps and anti sniper counterfire.

Engineer's Pilum means run and gun anti tank capatility and limited sniping.

As for Supply, someone please give me back my shotty from engineers kit in BF2.



VultureTexas - 5 unlocks to go.

[RMan]

That's because BF2142 is designed around using the unlocks. Which I don't find to be a problem, because you level up pretty darn quickly.
Quickly, by your standard, maybe. Many people also think WoW levels quickly, but if I had to hit level 60 before I could play the game 'properly' I wouldn't be very happy at all. The unlocks are absolutely essential to being competitive, even if you think one or two of the guns are not much better than the standard ones, that doesn't change the fact that most of the guns are significantly better and the other upgrades increase your effectiveness dramatically.

BF2142 was a real disappointment to me, particularly because of the unlocks. I do not think Tribes would have been more fun if I was forced to play “Tribes Lite” against others playing the normal game for a few months before getting to play the real game. Although there’s a nice emotional boost out of getting an unlock, it by no means makes up for the frustration of being gimped for so long before it. It’s clearly a case of the designers saying “Hey, leveling in WoW is fun, people like that, let’s smack that in here”. Of course, if people in WoW were forced to fight stuff many levels higher than them they wouldn’t like leveling at all.

[RMan]

No weapon is vastly superior in this game, for every advantage ther is a disadvantage. Take for instance the Assult kit weapons... The baur hits hard but has a limited capacity and crappy accuracy when full auto. The Voss has higher capacity and accuracy but at a cost of stopping power. The standard weapon bridges the 2, so which one puts a new player at a disadvantage?
Well, first off, I disagree with the general premise here in terms of balance, the Voss is wildly superior to the base weapon (just after unlocking it, I was getting WAY more kills), and the Baur is also significantly better. The fact that they play a little differently doesn’t change the fact that you will far more often win a battle against someone wielding the base weapon.

But, let’s say, for a second, that you were correct about this, and the weapons were ‘balanced’ in this respect. This still wouldn’t change the fact that without the unlocks you are underpowered. It doesn’t matter that 1 of 3 situations you’ve got a decent weapon if 2 of 3 you are getting spanked. If you need to defend or assault the titan, you are way underpowered without unlocks. If you want to take out vehicles, or keep vehicles alive, you are horribly underpowered without the unlocks. It’s like saying a basketball team can be just as effective with 5’9” players just because they are equally effective at shooting 3 pointers, if they’re at a disadvantage everywhere else they’re going to lose.
Another things you may have not relized is that it takes about 1/3 the time to get an unlock in BF2142 as comparred to BF2. So in my mind that makes it a little more friendly for the casual player.
Although you have, what, like 5 times as many upgrades?
And that BS about unlocking grenades, is just that, BS.
In my version of the game, the grenades were a player ability that required unlocking, not sure where you got a version of the game that requires less unlocks, but that sounds more fun than mine :).

[bitwise]

More like Betafield.

i lol'd :D

[Adam Blue]

Thiats kind of my point. I can understand unlocking a better weapon, but instead in BF2142 you are unlocking content that should be available out of the gate.

No. You are moving up through a specific class to gain specific abilities. Now complaints were made before that it sucks that other players have better weapons through unlocks, but we've proved that's not true...but now you're saying it should be a better weapon? The point of it is to add convenience.

The game is much deeper then you seem to understand, or anyone that doesn't play seems to understand.

[Adam Blue]

Actually I agree. Much like the weapon unlocks in BF2, they arn't that much better. If at all.

I was only argueing against his line of justification. Not unlocks themselves.

That is exactly what I was saying...

[RMan]

Now complaints were made before that it sucks that other players have better weapons through unlocks, but we've proved that's not true...
Hehe, you surely haven't proven that to me, this was not at all true with the game I played. The only unlocked weapons that clearly weren’t superior of what I played were the support machine gun and the sniper rifle. Other than that, they were superior, and the unlocks you got before the weapons made a huge difference.

[josteos]

I really like BF2142 over BF2, probably because of the sci-fi aspect to it.

Personally I like the "everything is an unlock" tack that they took with it. When you fully unlock a class you end up with more possible toys than you can carry, so it forces people to customize their kit.

Not all unlocked weapons are 'better' - I'm more effective with the base assault gun than I am with the Bauer, but I'll admit that I have been WTFPWN3D by a lotta Vosses. And the engineer AT unlock is like a decimator in PS - it does big damage, but not lock-on & no steering, so I miss a lot because the tank move after I fire, unlike the base weapopns which you can steer on the way. The unlock has its advantages; the base weapon has its advantages.

My personal favorite weapon is the support shotgun unlock - massive damage balanced by short range, slow rate of fire, and long reload time. But its damn fun. Contrast that with the engineer unlocks on BF2 - that jackhammer shotgun sucked balls. Unlocks are ard to earn in BF2, so it pissed me off to learn that the jackhammer was a total waste. Which brings me to one of my fave thigns abotu Bf2142 - the field upgrades. Holy crap.... join a squad, go where the squad leader says, get free temporary unlocks. You get to try out the unlocks BEFORE you watse points on them. Don't solo in this game, and if your SL isn't laying waypoints, switch squads!

It is very easy to get a few unlocks fast. A couple/few rounds for a noobie and he should be ranked up.

ps. my suggested first 3 unlocks: 1) nades, 2) stamina increase, 3) stamina recharge increase. I've stopped wearing heavy armor because your ability to move is MUCH better when you aren't weighed down. Your sprint lasts MUCH longer with the light armor.

[Discoman]

2142 doesn't really compare to battlefield 2, as bf2 is more like team fortress 2, as it has many classes and some minor upgrades. personally, i like the avr in 2142 and the accipter drone. is it true that the awards and ribbons that northern strike adds to the game give unlock points?