You've seen 'Star Wars.' Now what? [Archive]

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 10:35 AM

For the geek in all of us, CNN is asking the question, "You've seen 'Star Wars.' Now what?" (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/31/film.starwars.whatnow.ap/index.html) Is there life after Star Wars?

[B]Though "Star Wars" will continue with two planned offshoot TV series[B], for the first time since 1977, there will be no movie to look forward to. Likewise, after 18 years of some variation of "Star Trek" TV shows, the May 13 finale of "Star Trek: Enterprise" was perhaps the last televised voyage of the famed starship.For myself, I picked up a couple of Star Wars comic books and started reading R.A. Salvatore's novel "Vector Prime".

Sloth

06-01-2005, 10:40 AM

I actually don't feel any kind of a void after seeing Ep3 because the last film completed the story quite sufficently from my point of view. I really don't have any unanswered questions, at least none that gnaw away at me.

I only have one major complaint about ep3 and that is that Vader didn't kill one jedi on screen. I would have liked to see Vader in action a bit.

Doctor Setebos

06-01-2005, 10:41 AM

For myself, I picked up a couple of Star Wars comic books and started reading R.A. Salvatore's novel "Vector Prime".

I really enjoyed "Vector Prime". Now I just have to find the time to read the approximately 23 books that followed. :p

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 10:49 AM

I really enjoyed "Vector Prime". Now I just have to find the time to read the approximately 23 books that followed. :p

Well, don't buy them from the SciFi book club. I got burned again with Vector Prime. I figured if they had VP that they had the other 18 books and they don't... they only have a small selection of Star Wars books. So, now I'll have one hardcover and the rest in paperback. I hate mixed media. ;)

AspectVoid

06-01-2005, 10:59 AM

Well, mostly I'm looking forward to Empire at War. Lets be honest, there's little doubt that LucasArts will keep making Star Wars games, so there will be plenty of chances to enter the universe again. After all, can anyone really not see them getting someone to develope KotoR3?

bapenguin

06-01-2005, 11:00 AM

It's weird, right now there's no big movie franchise to look forward to. We had Star Wars and LOTR for so long....it just seems like a desert of remakes ahead.

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 11:03 AM

It's weird, right now there's no big movie franchise to look forward to. We had Star Wars and LOTR for so long....it just seems like a desert of remakes ahead.

In addition to this summers Batman Begins, there is a new X-Men movie in the works (without Brian Singer) and a new Superman movie in the works (with Brian Singer). Those are good "geek" movies, but I don't expect much from either film.

The SciFi channel has started development of the second season of Battlestar Galactica... that certainly falls into the whole "Star Wars geek" category.

Wadmaasi

06-01-2005, 11:11 AM

I couldn't finish Vector Prime. *blech* The best Star Wars ever is the Thrawn trilogy. Zahn isn't my favorite author by any means, but shit, the guy out Star Wars-ed Star Wars with those books.

As for what's to look forward too...I'll second Empire at War; that looks sweem. I doubt we're done with Ep3 stuff yet, either.

I'm currently replaying Revenge of the Sith on Hard, and while it's not the bestest game evar, it sure is fun brawler-lite. I've always sucked at straight-up fighting games and only marginally less-so at brawlers. With Ninja Gaiden, even after spending 50 hours scrabbling my way through, I never felt like I really had the gameplay under control; it took me 10 or 15 tries to make it back to the first save point with the Hurricane Pack right after beating the game. With RotS I'm this close to being able to Universal Launch a target at will; that probably means that RotS is an easier\shallower game or something, but it also means my sense of fulfillment is higher. It's too short, though, even with the 6 bonus missions and same-box multiplayer (thank the Force they allow AI-controlled MP opponents). Besides, who wouldn't have fun taking Grievous into an arena and laying the quadsaber smackdown? w00!

NACIONAL

06-01-2005, 11:11 AM

i allways though of the star wars franchise as a movie series...

i don't know if the franchise will fit well into movie series...

About the other movies.. i don't know.. i don't see good things in the future...

crashedout

06-01-2005, 11:15 AM

You have the rumored tv and cartoon series, more video games and crappy novels. I am sure there will be plenty to run with, George does have a huge new office to pay for. Or you could start searching for something new to try...

WastelandDan

06-01-2005, 11:20 AM

I'm relieved it's over. I was a big star wars fan for many years but the constant bombardment of star wars news, trailers, toys, legos and whathaveyou has really burned me out. It's going to be a long time before I can watch any of them again; at this point I'm just tired of the entire series.

Atorak

06-01-2005, 11:21 AM

I only have one major complaint about ep3 and that is that Vader didn't kill one jedi on screen. I would have liked to see Vader in action a bit.

This was appropriately not done on purpose, I would imagine. Anakin, or the newly-turned Vader, at the end of Episode III, was still gripping with the loss of his wife/children. I think it was probably many, many years before Anakin turned into the full-blown Vader that was seen in the next films, which continued over two decades after the end of Episode III. 20+ years is a long time to completely brainwash someone, rather than partially brainwash, which is what I consider him right after his "tranformation" into Vader.

Atorak

06-01-2005, 11:25 AM

PS: My buddy watched 'The Clone Wars DVD' series, Volume 1, which he said was an amazing precursor to Revenge of the Sith. You get to learn why Anakin has the scar on his face during Revenge of the Sith, why General Grevious is always wheezing, etc. Very cool stuff.

I haven't watched it yet, but I plan on doing it soon. He's also got the 2nd Volume, but it's not in stores yet.

Clone Wars DVD on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006Z2LMO/qid=1117650236/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-1453491-8735049?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846)

Hieremias

06-01-2005, 11:26 AM

He killed an entire room of children Jedi-in-training. I dunno, that sounds pretty full-blown to me.

snubber

06-01-2005, 11:27 AM

No more crappy Star Wars movies? boo-hoo. I'm sorry, I know tons of people liked this last one, and yes, it was better than the other two (which is saying nothing), but it still sucked in so many ways. The first 15 minutes were so goddamn stupid. Your big Darth Vader-transformation epic and your opening act has Abbot & Costello type of slapstick humor with all the elevator shenanigans and R2 throwing the comm into his body because the other robots hear him? So dumb. And the robot with asthma. Dear god. I'm glad this series is over.

goc_sin

06-01-2005, 11:28 AM

I'll have to agree with Wadmaasi that the best books were the Thrawn trilogy. I couldn't stop reading those. The worst star wars book has to be "Star Wars: Tales of the Bounty Hunters"... In the story where Dengar holsters the blaster and stood looking down at Boba Fett "I'm getting married in a couple of weeks, and I'll need a best man. You available?". That book made me cringe... utter crap!

vornskr

06-01-2005, 11:38 AM

I only have one major complaint about ep3 and that is that Vader didn't kill one jedi on screen. I would have liked to see Vader in action a bit.

That's what short movies on dvd (ala Animatrix), seasons of star wars television, and really good comic books (graphic novels?) are for sir.

You can't sell it all at once man, gotta make that merchandise stretch

RicoSuave77

06-01-2005, 11:53 AM

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 11:56 AM

I only have one major complaint about ep3 and that is that Vader didn't kill one jedi on screen. I would have liked to see Vader in action a bit.

For the sake of people who haven't seen the movie, I'll refrain from mentioning a name, but Vader did kill one Jedi on screen. I'm sure you know the scene I'm talking about.

Oh, and there is a new hardcover Vader novel due out next month that I think picks up right after the movie.

greensky

06-01-2005, 12:02 PM

I'm waiting for the new FireFly move.... http://www.fireflymovie.com/ :)

GrinR

06-01-2005, 12:21 PM

Star Wars and Empire were great movies. The rest was shit and I don't identify any of it with the two that were great. As a consequence, I don't care either way that "it's over"

XenonCJ

06-01-2005, 12:41 PM

7, 8, & 9.

Atorak

06-01-2005, 01:01 PM

...And the robot with asthma. Dear god.

Um. He wasn't a fully automated 'robot', as you will. He had a chest cavity, and a heart. Like I said, if you saw the Clone Wars DVD, you would understand why he was wheezing. I thought it was a cool addition, the fact that most people wouldn't understand that part entering the movie.

Eh, the last three movies all had their silly parts, that I didn't particularly like either, but you could argue that the original three movies had them all over too. The annoying rat near Jabba? The dancing/singing creatures in Jabba's lair? The Ewoks? Yoda goofing around when he first met Luke? R2 and C3PO's interactions throughout each movie? The list goes on....

TheKeck

06-01-2005, 01:05 PM

For the sake of people who haven't seen the movie, I'll refrain from mentioning a name, but Vader did kill one Jedi on screen. I'm sure you know the scene I'm talking about.

I'm actually not sure which scene you're talking about. I've seen it three times, so I think I would. Can you give a hint?

Atorak

06-01-2005, 01:07 PM

He killed an entire room of children Jedi-in-training. I dunno, that sounds pretty full-blown to me.

Actually, only SOME of the Jedi-in-training were killed by lightsaber. Most of them were killed by the clones. :)

Sure, that was a huge turning point, but he wasn't a full-blown Sith yet. You could tell he was still confused at the end, talking to Amidala, right before the Obi-Wan "thing". He was convinced that he was doing the right thing...for the Empire, and its leader, good ol' Palapatine. Hence, all the dead Jedi!

Atorak

06-01-2005, 01:08 PM

I'm actually not sure which scene you're talking about. I've seen it three times, so I think I would. Can you give a hint?

Anyone know how much it costs to replace an entire glass window?

dr_wily

06-01-2005, 01:49 PM

I didnt like that he makes you assume all jedi are dead in the movie cept for yoda and obi wan.. Im not too much of a background nerd to know that darth cleans up the rest..

clone wars rules all.. i saw it again.. god i love the mace windu episode!

NACIONAL

06-01-2005, 01:59 PM

Anyone know how much it costs to replace an entire glass window?

he wasn't vader when that happened... and Sidius wasn't responsible for that????

Pumped'Up

06-01-2005, 02:12 PM

I'm actually not sure which scene you're talking about. I've seen it three times, so I think I would. Can you give a hint?
watch the real STAR WARS, sheesh.

or if you want to be Shakespearean, Vader killed Aniken. :p

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 02:30 PM

Anyone know how much it costs to replace an entire glass window?

Give that man a cigar. The Jedi who died in that scene was a direct result of Anakin/Vader's action and that Jedi was crippled by Anakin/Vader.

Of course, a good author would throw some doubt into if he really died or not, after all Obi-Wan survived a huge fall in the same movie and Anakin jumped out of a speeder in mid-air in the 2nd movie and survived.

Atorak

06-01-2005, 02:30 PM

he wasn't vader when that happened... and Sidius wasn't responsible for that????

SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!

Then true, you never see "Vader in the Black Suit" kill someone directly. But, if you consider that the attack on Mace directly resulted in the death of a Jedi, and the fact that he swore loyalty to Palpatine immediately afterward, you could say he transformed into Darth Vader in that same room.

Pumped'Up

06-01-2005, 03:28 PM

7, 8, & 9.
the entire SW triliogy is about Darth Vader - a fallen hero.

7-9 would make absolutely no sense...unless it's "Star Wars - Adventures of Anakin the Ghost" ....well you never know - this is the moron Lucas behind all this brilliance.

GunnyMo

06-01-2005, 03:33 PM

Hey, Evil, just be prepared to hate Salvatore as an author after he butchers SW. I do , anyway.

benson

06-01-2005, 04:01 PM

Give that man a cigar. The Jedi who died in that scene was a direct result of Anakin/Vader's action and that Jedi was crippled by Anakin/Vader.

Of course, a good author would throw some doubt into if he really died or not, after all Obi-Wan survived a huge fall in the same movie and Anakin jumped out of a speeder in mid-air in the 2nd movie and survived.
But really, Vader (as in the whole black suit, James Earl Jones voiced guy) doesn't kill a Jedi until Episode IV - I might be spoiling this for those that haven't seen it, but he does kill Obi Wan near the end.

On another note, I already have a huge pile of books to read, but I'd be interested in reading some good Star Wars books, any to recommend?

Evil Avatar

06-01-2005, 08:07 PM

the entire SW triliogy is about Darth Vader - a fallen hero.

7-9 would make absolutely no sense...unless it's "Star Wars - Adventures of Anakin the Ghost" ....well you never know - this is the moron Lucas behind all this brilliance.

Since the first three movies were about Darth Vader and the second three movies were about Luke Skywalker, why would 7 - 9 make no sense? Isn't Luke going to have children? How about Leia's children? How about the battles that follow as the new Republic tries to take back the galaxy from the remains of the Empire?

Are there no new enemies in the New Republic? Are there no Sith?

Just as there are an endless number of post-RotJ novels, there could be an endless number of plots to choose from.

riposte101

06-01-2005, 08:48 PM

It's weird, right now there's no big movie franchise to look forward to. We had Star Wars and LOTR for so long....it just seems like a desert of remakes ahead.

Harry Potter series and Chronicles of Narnia. Those aren't shabby franchises.

Spigot

06-01-2005, 09:34 PM

I really enjoyed the entire New Jedi Order series. Some books were better than others, but hot damn, Star By Star was fantastic space opera. I personally liked it because it took the whole Star Wars universe and really turned it on its head. It made you wonder if it would have been better had the rebels been wiped out and the Sith were in charge. And it had a lot of interesting ideas about the nature of the force (that didn't involve freakin' midichlorians).

I'd love to see the stuff from NJO turn up in either a game or maybe the TV series. A flight sim type game would be cool, but I'd like to see a KOTOR-style RPG set in the NJO timeline.

I've had enough traisping around the Galactic Civil War and the events immediately before it (the prequels). Give me something like KOTOR or the NJO stuff that shows a bit of creativity. The Thrawn books would be awesome to take to another setting as well. If they did Episodes 7,8 and 9, I think that the Thrawn series would be the best way to keep the feel of the originals and also have a lot of neat new things going on.

Of course, knowing Lucas, he'd probably have it be the Rise of the Ewoks saga, now with CGI fur...

Liquidize105

06-01-2005, 10:04 PM

SW has always just been action movies to me. I saw epis.1 and enjoyed 2. Mace Windu is one mean mofo.

The Matrix is the SW of my generation, well, it was. The original Matrix definitely was.

Nesta

06-02-2005, 06:11 AM

The Thrawn books should be the basis for the TV series. You could even get Mark Hamill, Billy Dee, and Carrie Fischer back to resume their roles (probably), but they would obviously have to find a replacement for Han. Perhaps Kelsey Grammer, since he originally auditioned for the part? LOL! That would be wrong. But a TV series based on the Thawn Trilogy would be dope.

XenonCJ

06-02-2005, 08:50 AM