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fitbabits
02-06-2007, 08:33 AM
...assuming it's no more than two or three years old (and has Ninjas hidden inside it).

"We developed almost all effects to be very scalable for different hardware specs," he says. "Fortunately this is much easier now that we can rely on the existence of hardware shaders. We believe clearly that Crysis will be enjoyed by a large audience that dates back to gamers with two- to three-year-old gaming rigs."

Although Yerli is confident that Crysis will run on older setups, he suggests that if you can only play the game on DX9, try not to view the game running in the superior DX10. "We work hard to give everyone a great experience," he states. "You should not miss anything when [only] playing it on DX9, but if you get a chance to play it on DX10 you might [miss the fidelity when going back to DX9].

He adds that close ties with software and hardware partners have helped Crytek overcome the complicated transition to Vista, DX10 and multi-core processors. Yerli says, "Working with early DX10 hardware was challenging, but our strong connections with Nvidia, Intel and Microsoft have helped a lot. We rarely had crashes, blue screens or rebooting machines."
Source - Next Generation (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4690&Itemid=2).

YAY for scalable technology?

lockwoodx
02-06-2007, 08:42 AM
I don't care how Crytek tries to soften the blow, be it fine jewelry, sweet talk, or dinner and a movie. My wallet is still angry at them!

Kamalot
02-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Won't run on mine. I gave up upgrading about 3 years ago. My 360 was an 'upgrade' to my PC. As i typically only use my PC for work any more, spending the extra cash to make it play games just seemed foolish. Not to diss anyone who still games on the PC. I wish I could justify it to myself.

These days, it is all about getting my level of computing to be smaller and more portable. Instead of having more power, I'm interested in taking a suitable amount of power with me everywhere. I'll be picking up one of these (http://www.oqo.com)and sticking to older/smaller PC games.

Maybe I'll install a Phantasy Star Online server at home and run the PC client. :D

Sandman
02-06-2007, 08:48 AM
Pentium IV 1.99 Ghz
1 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 7800 128 MB

I still think my system will default to bsod when I just insert the disc.

lockwoodx
02-06-2007, 08:50 AM
Won't run on mine. I gave up upgrading about 3 years ago. My 360 was an 'upgrade' to my PC. As i typically only use my PC for work any more, spending the extra cash to make it play games just seemed foolish. Not to diss anyone who still games on the PC. I wish I could justify it to myself.

These days, it is all about getting my level of computing to be smaller and more portable. Instead of having more power, I'm interested in taking a suitable amount of power with me everywhere. I'll be picking up one of these (http://www.oqo.com)and sticking to older/smaller PC games.

Maybe I'll install a Phantasy Star Online server at home and run the PC client. :D


Now my wallet is angry at you for showing me that OQO!


Tho seriously I just run DOSbox on This baby (http://www.gpx2.co.uk/) for my old school gaming needs. Also runs emulators *borat voice* VERY NICCEE!!! Also it's Flexible as hell (http://www.gpx2.co.uk/gp2xbreakoutboard.html) when it comes to taking a PC anywhere with you.

botman
02-06-2007, 08:52 AM
Ummm, so it will run on my crappy 3 year old PC, but won't run on Xbox360?...

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/30/crytek-says-360-and-ps3-cant-handle-crysis/

WTF???

DangerousDaze
02-06-2007, 08:53 AM
For me the deciding factor is the shader model. I can do v2, but not v3, which rules out a number of new games. Hopefully this will run on older shader engines.

Kamalot
02-06-2007, 08:53 AM
Now my wallet is angry at you for showing me that OQO!


Tho seriously I just run DOSbox on This baby (http://www.gpx2.co.uk/) for my old school gaming needs. Also runs emulators *borat voice* VERY NICCEE!!!
No kidding. I typically only get a new computer every 3 years or so, so spending a bit on something special is okay. I suppose I could spend the same amount on a decent gaming rig, but it wouldn't fit my mobile lifestyle (a lot of my Evav posts come from my Treo! :O).

The OQO comes with a Sprint (or Verizon) data modem built in so you can get online whenever you have a cell signal. Oh yeah, always connected is better than a super-fast machine that is tethered. ...at least to me...

lockwoodx
02-06-2007, 08:55 AM
No kidding. I typically only get a new computer every 3 years or so, so spending a bit on something special is okay. I suppose I could spend the same amount on a decent gaming rig, but it wouldn't fit my mobile lifestyle (a lot of my Evav posts come from my Treo! :O).

The OQO comes with a Sprint (or Verizon) data modem built in so you can get online whenever you have a cell signal. Oh yeah, always connected is better than a super-fast machine that is tethered. ...at least to me...


But it's 1,800 frickin dollars!! For that kind of money I'd want a datajack in my eyeball I could plug a wire directly into just to freak people out.

Kamalot
02-06-2007, 08:59 AM
But it's 1,800 frickin dollars!! For that kind of money I'd want a datajack in my eyeball I could plug a wire directly into just to freak people out.
That would freak ME out!

You can easily spend $2000 on any laptop, from Dell (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1710?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19)or Apple (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=925997E8&nclm=MacBookPro). None of them will fit in your pocket like the OQO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsMshBsNNg).

Johan
02-06-2007, 09:06 AM
My first laptop, back in 1996, was $4,500.

Under two grand is a steal for decent portable hardware.

kraemer
02-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Crysis will end up on the 360 some day. I will wait them out. I'll be playing Gears, Forza2, Halo3, and PRG4 while I wait..... :)

Jukey
02-06-2007, 09:21 AM
YAY for scalable technology?
You'd prefer it not run at all on older hardware? :confused:

gojira
02-06-2007, 09:29 AM
I've been suffering for five years now with a 1GHz Athlon and ... well, I won't even bother with the rest of the specs.

I just ordered a new machine, a laptop. Mostly intended for personal/business, but I also got a NV 7900 GS for gaming. I figure with at least 4x the CPU power and 4x the memory, not to mention probably 100x the graphics card, I ought to be set for another 5 years. Go me.

drakkarim
02-06-2007, 09:31 AM
I've been hearing mixed messages about vista gaming, so i'm holding off for the first patch, i don't care what games come out (bragging about dx10) for it before that.

my c2d/7900gtx will keep me happy for another year at least anyway. then i'll upgrade to the 8900gtx :)

THEN i'll have a reason to go to vista/dx10

fitbabits
02-06-2007, 09:38 AM
You'd prefer it not run at all on older hardware? :confused:
Absolutely. The reason console games are, for the most part, rock solid is because developers do not need to factor in an almost infinite amount of hardware configurations when optimizing their game.

Those who can't afford a top of the line Vista PC running DirectX10 have no business playing games on their PC to begin with. Buy an Xbox 360 or even a PS3 if you just want to play games with no problems. I have NO sympathy for those of you out there with ancient computers who're bitching about games like Crysis not being able to run well on their PC. You have two options here - upgrade or bow out disgracefully. I have no time for those people who want to breathe the rarefied air of PC gaming yet who are unable to make the sacrifice to do so (one less Big Mac for dinner - it all adds up). (Jeepers, that was more fun than I thought! If you see this, don't let on. Ruffled feathers FTW.)

Norse
02-06-2007, 09:42 AM
This game is all about graphics. Why would anyone want to run this game on a 2-3 year old PC???

oldschooldimo
02-06-2007, 10:11 AM
This game is all about graphics. Why would anyone want to run this game on a 2-3 year old PC???

i can see it now, "Crysis Will Now Run on Your Sega Genesis!"

Gedd
02-06-2007, 10:22 AM
What they don't mention is that it will run on DX9 systems, but no polygons, only stick figures! Kidding of course, but I don't really care about Crysis or Crytek anyway, Farcry was a decent shooter, nothing more. I'd play a decent shooter that came out today even if they used the DARK engine (Thief/Thief2) to create it. Gameplay/Fun > Graphics. The hardware industry has gotten too greedy for me; they said "All in" I say "Fold".

My PC gaming days are done once the 6800Ultra [i'm using] becomes completely obsolete. Remember when you used to be able to upgrade components in your PC without having to totally gut it every time? AGP wasn't dead yet, but the greedy fuckers forced us to PCI Express, and probably because the industry got pissed when PCI 64 didn't get off the ground. Sorry, but i'll save my $1500+ investment for a down payment on a car or something.

Ph00p
02-06-2007, 10:27 AM
Who in the right mind with a shitty rig would even give a second thought to buying Vista just to play a generic FPS?

Codicier
02-06-2007, 10:29 AM
Absolutely. The reason console games are, for the most part, rock solid is because developers do not need to factor in an almost infinite amount of hardware configurations when optimizing their game.

Those who can't afford a top of the line Vista PC running DirectX10 have no business playing games on their PC to begin with. Buy an Xbox 360 or even a PS3 if you just want to play games with no problems. I have NO sympathy for those of you out there with ancient computers who're bitching about games like Crysis not being able to run well on their PC. You have two options here - upgrade or bow out disgracefully. I have no time for those people who want to breathe the rarefied air of PC gaming yet who are unable to make the sacrifice to do so (one less Big Mac for dinner - it all adds up). (Jeepers, that was more fun than I thought! If you see this, don't let on. Ruffled feathers FTW.)

I never realized you were such a huge dick fitbabits. Nobody is demanding that we be able to play Crysis on old computers. Crytek did this themselves in order to sell to the largest possible audience.

fitbabits
02-06-2007, 10:46 AM
I never realized you were such a huge dick fitbabits. Nobody is demanding that we be able to play Crysis on old computers. Crytek did this themselves in order to sell to the largest possible audience.
How long have you been frequenting Evil Avatar, Codi? Old enough to know that I love to throw the occasional deliberate spanner in the works.

Look closely at my post and you'll see what I'm referring to. Oh, and apologies.

Codicier
02-06-2007, 10:50 AM
How long have you been frequenting Evil Avatar, Codi? Old enough to know that I love to throw the occasional deliberate spanner in the works.

Look closely at my post and you'll see what I'm referring to. Oh, and apologies.

Long enough to know that throwing in a counter spanner gets you noticed. Yay for pointless flaming!

Oh, and counter apologies.

Also, I like how Codi sounds. That is my nickname now.

Evil Avatar
02-06-2007, 11:02 AM
I never realized you were such a huge dick fitbabits. Nobody is demanding that we be able to play Crysis on old computers. Crytek did this themselves in order to sell to the largest possible audience.

The largest possible audience is the Xbox 360 (and/or Playstation 3). Crysis did a huge backpedal with this one so that the game could be ported onto the Xbox 360, not so that people could play it on older PC hardware.

After months of telling us that the game wasn't coming to console systems, now all the sudden it supports DirectX 9? LOL.

I think that developers who try to support just Vista and just DirectX10 are going to find that their titles move an astounding 20,000 copies.

I hope that is enough to make back a 10 Million+ development budget.

Codicier
02-06-2007, 11:23 AM
The largest possible audience is the Xbox 360 (and/or Playstation 3). Crysis did a huge backpedal with this one so that the game could be ported onto the Xbox 360, not so that people could play it on older PC hardware.

After months of telling us that the game wasn't coming to console systems, now all the sudden it supports DirectX 9? LOL.

I think that developers who try to support just Vista and just DirectX10 are going to find that their titles move an astounding 20,000 copies.

I hope that is enough to make back a 10 Million+ development budget.

I'm sure it's for the 360/PS3 *and* old PC hardware. More = better after all.

H.Bogard
02-06-2007, 11:28 AM
Crysis will end up on the 360 some day. I will wait them out. I'll be playing Gears, Forza2, Halo3, and PRG4 while I wait..... :)

That'll happen right around the time Halo 3 hits the PC I figure, oh well...

LOL.

LOL!

Steele Johnson
02-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Crysis will be one of those games that people who are interested in game technology and benchmarking will play, which is definitely the gaming minority. It's quite apparent that this company is looking to sell engines and not very interested in selling games.

fitbabits
02-06-2007, 12:16 PM
Crysis will be one of those games that people who are interested in game technology and benchmarking will play, which is definitely the gaming minority. It's quite apparent that this company is looking to sell engines and not very interested in selling games.
Electronic Arts, who is publishing the game, would beg to differ. Seldom does Electronic Arts publish a game which won't make them a metric fuckload of money.

J Arcane
02-06-2007, 12:24 PM
But it's 1,800 frickin dollars!! For that kind of money I'd want a datajack in my eyeball I could plug a wire directly into just to freak people out.
For 1800 bucks you could just buy a real PC.

that has to be the stupidest post I've seen in a while, not surprising it was from Kamalot. "I won't upgrade my computer to play real games, but I will spend as much as a high end machine on a piece of crap portable with an awful keyboard that's lucky to run DOSbox!"

J Arcane
02-06-2007, 12:29 PM
The largest possible audience is the Xbox 360 (and/or Playstation 3). Crysis did a huge backpedal with this one so that the game could be ported onto the Xbox 360, not so that people could play it on older PC hardware.

After months of telling us that the game wasn't coming to console systems, now all the sudden it supports DirectX 9? LOL.

I think that developers who try to support just Vista and just DirectX10 are going to find that their titles move an astounding 20,000 copies.

I hope that is enough to make back a 10 Million+ development budget.
Even putting the 360 out of the picture entirely, it's commercial suicide to release exclusive to Vista/DX10 right now, and probably will be for the next year or two at least.

Upgrade cycles for new Windows OSes are slow. DX10 being exclusive will force a few people a long faster than otherwise, but we're still gonna see a LOT of games still supporting DX9/XP, and jsut scaling up for DX10.

Kamalot
02-06-2007, 12:35 PM
For 1800 bucks you could just buy a real PC.

that has to be the stupidest post I've seen in a while, not surprising it was from Kamalot. "I won't upgrade my computer to play real games, but I will spend as much as a high end machine on a piece of crap portable with an awful keyboard that's lucky to run DOSbox!"
Yup. You got it right. I'm not going to spend money on ensuring my PC can play games any more. My priorities for PC usage are portability and office applications. My OQO will be able to run emulators of old systems just fine along with slightly-older PC games. The cost of staying on the bleeding edge of PC gaming wasn't worth it to me for a few ports of console games and a whole bunch of me-too RTS/FPS titles.

But here I was discussing MY needs without being judgmental of PC gaming only to have some ASSHOLE come into the thread waving his arms and shouting that it was probably the 'DUMBEST POST EVAR!'

I'll be enjoying Sam & Max on my new portable.

Watership
02-06-2007, 12:55 PM
A little damage control. The buzz about "the killer rig" needed to run this has got the publisher thinking its not going to be a huge seller because of the 600 dollar videocard entry fee.

Btw.. it works on older pcs! Too bad the gameplay doesn't seem to be unique enough to really make much of a difference, even for next gen console.

Chris_D
02-06-2007, 02:41 PM
Those who can't afford a top of the line Vista PC running DirectX10 have no business playing games on their PC to begin with. (Jeepers, that was more fun than I thought! If you see this, don't let on. Ruffled feathers FTW.)

Hohoho. But yeah, a part of WOW's success has been due to being able to cater to a large range of pc specs (certainly more than the average big budget pc title). If what you said was really true then pc gaming really would be dead. Long live solitaire.

Kamalot
02-06-2007, 02:42 PM
Hohoho. But yeah, a part of WOW's success has been due to being able to cater to a large range of pc specs (certainly more than the average big budget pc title). If what you said was really true then pc gaming really would be dead. Long live solitaire.
And minesweeper! Don't leave out all us Minesweeper junkies.

In fact, we should have a whole thread here dedicated to Minesweeper!

Chris_D
02-06-2007, 02:46 PM
I actually bought a fat ass desktop not that long ago (a little less than 2 years). One of the first dual cores, with SLI, a very big case. Now living in Japan, the benefits of not having a whole desktop setup is very obvious in these sadly small apartments. And, not having net for the first few months meant that being able to go cruising for free wireless with my ibook was kind of nice.

So my last pc purchase has been the latest revision of the macbook pro, which actually has half decent performance for games. All I really need for my casual pc habit.

Steele Johnson
02-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steele Johnson
Crysis will be one of those games that people who are interested in game technology and benchmarking will play, which is definitely the gaming minority. It's quite apparent that this company is looking to sell engines and not very interested in selling games.

Electronic Arts, who is publishing the game, would beg to differ. Seldom does Electronic Arts publish a game which won't make them a metric fuckload of money.

Well I guess EA screwed up this time, because they're wrong and I'm right! :D

DangerousDaze
02-06-2007, 04:37 PM
Yup. You got it right. I'm not going to spend money on ensuring my PC can play games any more. My priorities for PC usage are portability and office applications. ...

I'll be enjoying Sam & Max on my new portable.
Got to agree with Kamalot here. I do a lot of travelling so I need a lappy. Ok, so it only supports shader model 2, but with a decent processor, 2GB RAM, 128MB FireGL V3200 (based on the Radeon X600 XT chipset), it suits me just fine. There's a lot to be said for a decent laptop vs a desktop these days. You get decent performance out of the box.

blackzc
02-06-2007, 10:49 PM
I just had to buy a mx4000 64mb video card of eBay for 8$ so i could run age of mythology so me and my buddy can do i.p. battles. Buncha horse shit if you ask me. And even if you didn't ask me ill tell you anyway. Guys, good PCs are dirt cheap anymore, stop bitching.

I really don't care about being on the cutting edge anymore,NF4,AMD3200,6600gt, bought it a couple years ago and its been good to me. Ill get the bug to go all out again, but till then ill enjoy the utter shitload of games i have going back 8 years. PC games just don't get old. IMO

J Arcane
02-06-2007, 11:27 PM
Got to agree with Kamalot here. I do a lot of travelling so I need a lappy. Ok, so it only supports shader model 2, but with a decent processor, 2GB RAM, 128MB FireGL V3200 (based on the Radeon X600 XT chipset), it suits me just fine. There's a lot to be said for a decent laptop vs a desktop these days. You get decent performance out of the box.
You bought a real laptop.

Kam is spending laptop prices for a glorified PDA. And then gloats about it, as if it makes him cool to deliberately waste money.

It's quite possible to buy a laptop these days that will provide all the portability, and still perform quite well for gaming. fuck, for the money Kam is gloating about spending on that overblown tablet PC, you can buy a goddamn Alienware laptop with bloody SLI.

That's not something to be proud of. That's something to be ashamed of, especially for someone who calls himself a gamer.

blackzc
02-07-2007, 12:35 AM
That's not something to be proud of. That's something to be ashamed of, especially for someone who calls himself a gamer.


So because he spends his money on something for office apps and the gaming aspect is secondary, he is not a gamer? gamer...gamer...gamer...gamer...lol the more i say that the more fucking stupid it becomes.

What would you call one who watches sunsets?
What bout the guy who plays chess?
What about the guy who plants flowers?

This is a hobby, if you want to load up dos and play kings quest, guess what, your a (gamer) :rolleyes: .


I swear to god i want to choke the next fuck that says gamer.

J Arcane
02-07-2007, 12:42 AM
So because he spends his money on something for office apps and the gaming aspect is secondary, he is not a gamer? gamer...gamer...gamer...gamer...lol the more i say that the more fucking stupid it becomes.

What would you call one who watches sunsets?
What bout the guy who plays chess?
What about the guy who plants flowers?

This is a hobby, if you want to load up dos and play kings quest, guess what, your a (gamer) :rolleyes: .


I swear to god i want to choke the next fuck that says gamer.
I await your death by suffocation, since you've used the term more times than anyone in this thread.

Kamalot
02-07-2007, 06:31 AM
I currently utilize a Tablet PC and its features are quite in line with my needs. The OQO fits a niche that I, as a person, need. Gaming is NOT one of them. I have PLENTY of devices around my home that are capable of playing top-notch video games. I do NOT need the games that the PC offers.

As I have traveled through the years, I find that the $/fun ratio of PC gaming has been falling dramatically. Couple that with the rising prices of top-end graphic cards, and the shrinking number of PC titles and you can see why I choose to spend my gaming $ elsewhere.

The OQO is hefty enough to play plenty of titles should the need arise. Just looking through my Games For Windows March 2007 magazine, I can note that several games of the year for 2006 would be playable on the OQO including Defcon and World of Warcraft.

Yes, I call myself a gamer. I have a whole room of my house dedicated to gaming, filled with systems and a huge freaking screen. Just because I don't choose to follow the same path of gaming as yourself, then I should be ashamed to call myself a gamer? I suppose someone who goes on a $599 7-day Caribbean cruise (http://www.carnival.com/Itinerary.aspx?embkCode=PCV&itinCode=WCJ&durDays=7&sailDate=2/10/2007&shipCode=GL&sailingID=34489&subRegionCode=CW) isn't a gamer since they could have spent that money on a PS3 instead?

I don't NEED an Alienware PC. I NEED a PC I can take with me anywhere and everywhere. A PC that has always-on connectivity. A PC that I can take client notes on. I've found, no matter how small your PC, it ends up being heavy as hell when you have to run from one end of the airport to the other to catch your connecting flight in Peoria Illinois. The SMALLEST, LIGHTEST Alienware (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Area-51_m5550/area-51m_specs.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AREA51M5550-R3&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT#pdp-nav)is SIX TIMES HEAVIER than the OQO, and that is unacceptable.

The OQO is NOT a PDA. It runs Vista/Windows XP/Linux.

If you actually knew me, you'd also know that I am far from someone who wastes money. I buy quality, after long and hard research about the company behind the products and needs assessment analysis. I am in the business of saving people money, but not by being penny-wise and pound foolish. If I simply wanted to throw money into a computer to show off how 'cool' I am, I would buy a Mac.

I'm glad you still find some magic in PC gaming. Really. I am. That's why in my original post in this thread, I state, "Not to diss anyone who still games on the PC. I wish I could justify it to myself."

dash909
02-07-2007, 10:24 AM
i think im in the wrong thread.... LOL

blackzc
02-07-2007, 12:14 PM
I await your death by suffocation, since you've used the term more times than anyone in this thread.


LOL! A fat one, suck it!!

Chris_D
02-07-2007, 04:06 PM
foolish. If I simply wanted to throw money into a computer to show off how 'cool' I am, I would buy a Mac.


I feel I should defend my mac here, but it was pretty damn expensive.. still has worked beautifully so far.