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WastelandDan
05-29-2005, 07:36 PM
In a turn of fate that can easily be filed under "fcuking finally", Vanity magazine reports (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9823) that screenwriter Jeff Nathanson's script for Indiana Jones 4 has been approved by George Lucas, although Harrison Ford has yet to sign off on the script, or even read it.

Klade
05-29-2005, 07:52 PM
Who here thinks Harrison Ford will turn this down or they won't ask him to play the part?

WastelandDan
05-29-2005, 07:55 PM
well, Ford's already been asked to play the part, and reportedly they're trying to get Sean Connery on board, which will be the hardest part since he's retired from acting. In the end though, I think they'll get at least Ford to do it.

mister_slim
05-29-2005, 08:13 PM
I think they should hold off for another twelve years, until my Harrison Ford Clone is the right age for the part. Or they can just edit out the sound of a heavily-made up Harrison gasping for breathe.

Ghost_Saint
05-29-2005, 08:14 PM
Why wait another 12 years when Lucas' film teams can already create CG characters.

Fonz
05-29-2005, 08:56 PM
Man I remember reading about Idiana Jones 4 plans back in 1999 where Ben Afflek was to be used as the young indy. This movie is taking forever to become a realization, I wonder if it will even do any justice to the first 3 now that harrison is a 50 year old with a earring.

Dracula-X
05-29-2005, 09:01 PM
Man I remember reading about Idiana Jones 4 plans back in 1999 where Ben Afflek was to be used as the young indy. This movie is taking forever to become a realization, I wonder if it will even do any justice to the first 3 now that harrison is a 50 year old with a earring.Dude, he's 62 or something. Which means this better get done fast :)

mindstrike
05-29-2005, 09:01 PM
Why wait another 12 years when Lucas' film teams can already create CG characters.

Jar Jar Jones.

Here it comes.

;P

yellowoystercult
05-29-2005, 09:04 PM
i'm just waiting for the special edition indiana jones theatrical rereleases with new special effects and lucasfilm's subsequent burning of every copy of the original indiana jones trilogy.

lucas has always wanted sallah to be entirely cgi, but only recently has the technology been economically feasible.

FyrionX
05-29-2005, 09:16 PM
It's obvious that Ford probably won't be doing many stunts, he's probably going to adopt an "apprentice" who will take over the job for him or something.

WastelandDan
05-29-2005, 09:26 PM
With the rumors of Sean Connery being in the Indy 4, it wouldn't surprise me if they introduced another member of the Jones family. Ford has so visably aged during the many years since Last Crusade was made, it doesn't seem unfeasible to me that they might introduce either a son or daughter of Indy, whether it's legitimate or one he was unaware of.

Deadend
05-29-2005, 09:26 PM
Well, at least Lucas didn't write the script, so it could be good.

KamaItachi
05-29-2005, 09:28 PM
LUCAS (will have) RAPED MY CHILDHOOD (when this film is released)

Just getting that out of the way first.

Redline
05-29-2005, 09:31 PM
Years of 'hard living' have put a few tractor tires over Fords face (well, it'd happen to you to if you dated Callista Flockhart). I don't really think he can feasible play Indy anymore (although I'd REALLY like him to, he IS Indy). But meh, maybe they can set it up like James Bond.

KamaItachi
05-29-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm just hoping they don't have him mumbling under his breath "I'm too old for this..." every five minutes.
As long as the original team is on board with Speilburg directing and Lucas stuffed in a potato sack in the trunk of someone's car, the magic could be maintained.

Furious Wang
05-29-2005, 09:51 PM
God help us if Ben Affleck is still on the cast.

dr_qwandry
05-29-2005, 10:19 PM
Maybe he tries to get the fabled gold teeth from the seniors home from hell, in which there are retired cannibals.

Heretic Machine
05-29-2005, 11:34 PM
Rumors say that Ford would be perfect for the part, since Indiana is gonna be friggin old too. Someone ELSE will be the main adventurer... Which means the movie would be bullshit.

Maskatron
05-30-2005, 12:08 AM
I really hope they don't overdo it on the CGI. I fear that they'll even use CGI stunt doubles, which is all to common these days (and looks fake as hell still). Heck, you think Harrison is old? Look at what they did with Christopher Lee in Episode 3, flipping and spinning all over the place.

sTubbs
05-30-2005, 12:10 AM
I'm just hoping they don't have him mumbling under his breath "I'm too old for this..." every five minutes.
As long as the original team is on board with Speilburg directing and Lucas stuffed in a potato sack in the trunk of someone's car, the magic could be maintained.

No shit. I am hoping they stick with the classic facial expressions that Indy used in the original films. Some of the faces he pulled perfectly conveyed his thoughts on a situation far better than words ever could. With a bit of luck, they will continue the trend.

As for Lucas, if I remember correctly, he had a relatively minor role in the actual making of the films. Spielberg was the one who directed / wrote / co-wrote the scripts while Lucas was tagged as an executive producer and a creator.

The one thing I am worried about is the rumours that the story will introduce a young Indy. If this is the case, I nominate Sean Patrick Flannery. He has already played a young Indy in the 'Adventures of Young Indiana Jones' and did a damn fine job of doing so. Also, he was in Boondock Saints, which is, in my opinion, one of the most entertaining movies ever made. Unfortunately, if Lucas has any say in the matter, we will surely end up with one of the shittiest actors ever brought to the big screen. I mean, this is the idiot that chose Hayden Christensen to play one of the greatest characters of all time.

Qoz
05-30-2005, 12:39 AM
George Lucas wrote the script for all Indy films together with a changing second person. Spielberg did not write the script, but I'ts obvious that they made changes along filming. George Lucas had some golden years.. and then.. bah. Sucky crap all the time. Like Orson Welles. He is fat too. ^^

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 01:19 AM
I mean, this is the idiot that chose Hayden Christensen to play one of the greatest characters of all time.

...How is Anakin Skywalker one of the best characters of all time? He's someone who never got over teenaged angst, and uses the Darkside as an excuse. Screw Vader.

yellowoystercult
05-30-2005, 01:32 AM
...How is Anakin Skywalker one of the best characters of all time? He's someone who never got over teenaged angst, and uses the Darkside as an excuse. Screw Vader.

anakin skywalker had the potential to be one of the greatest characters of all time. his transformation from a vulnerable human being--hell, from a little boy with a schoolboy crush on a queen who's way too old for him--to an inhuman sith lord is remarkable. he played perfectly into darth sidious's plans, and it would've been very satisfying if done... well. unfortunately, neither jake lloyd nor hayden christensen can act, and lucas can't direct.

you know, spielberg actually asked to direct episode III, and lucas turned him down. definitely a missed opportunity.

Savok
05-30-2005, 01:57 AM
The most painful thing for a geek is seeing huge potential pissed away.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 03:22 AM
Cut the guy some slack... He would of caught -so much- shit from letting someone else direct Episode III. These movies were made for the fans, I doubt he has any passion left for Star Wars, so we're really lucky he decided to do them anyhow.

Of course I'm sure he also saw tons of cash from doing them as well.

EDIT: Besides that, I still say that the original trilogy are highly overrated.

Lutheran
05-30-2005, 03:32 AM
Hmm Harrison Ford is no ordinary 62 year old , the dude keeps himself in top shape and will be fine again as Indy..he can easily pull this part off hell he IS indy even at 62..I am sure they will have more stunt doubles to do the tough shit but trust me if they film in the next year or 2 he will again own the part..just hope the script is good.

Savok
05-30-2005, 05:59 AM
Cut the guy some slack... He would of caught -so much- shit from letting someone else direct Episode III. These movies were made for the fans, I doubt he has any passion left for Star Wars, so we're really lucky he decided to do them anyhow.

Of course I'm sure he also saw tons of cash from doing them as well.

EDIT: Besides that, I still say that the original trilogy are highly overrated.
Are you hard wired to keep producing posts like this all over this site?

For starters, Empire Strikes Back is considered the best of the lot by most fans and it was directed Irvin Kershner. Had Lucas passed it on to someone else (competent of course) we'd of thrown him a party. If as you say he had no passion then he should have let someone else do it.

These movies weren't made for the fans, they were made for his hip pocket and for his obession with pissing on his own creation, "luck" has little to do with it.

And you just couldn't resist a mindless stab could you.

Lint of Death
05-30-2005, 07:37 AM
Holy heck, people, it's would *have* or "would've," not this stupid "would of" crap.

Anyway, I liked "The Last Crusade" a lot. I don't really have much of an opinion on this new one because I don't know anything about it.

Riproar
05-30-2005, 08:14 AM
Sequels = Rehash

How can we not be disappointed when the originals showed us new ideas that had yet to be played out.

SW and IJ are played out. Soooooo Played.

The reason I disliked Ep 3 and Indy 3 is that they are all exposition. I don’t want exposition. I want that mysterious, unidentifiable glee of exploring something new and fresh.

Course as long as we continue to support these rehashes (whether in movies OR GAMES) they will keep force-feeding us this shite.

How many here expressing angst for Lucas contributed to the opening weekend sales? Ya, I thought so.

Lint of Death
05-30-2005, 08:42 AM
I'd rather have a new, original game like Pyschonauts than a sequal to any game. Except perhaps Spore 2 if there ever is one.

EDIT: Although I'll admit that I really really like Half-Life 2. However, it's mainly because of what's new: the amazing grapics, physics, and the gravity gun. Especially the physics and gravity gun. I'd have to say that's the best weapon in any game I have ever played and, in deathmatch, has provided a higher level of enjoyment for me than any other game.

Savok
05-30-2005, 08:59 AM
How many here expressing angst for Lucas contributed to the opening weekend sales? Ya, I thought so.

Saw the first two prequels on cable (non-pay per view), will probably watch the third one there as well.

Riproar
05-30-2005, 09:10 AM
Saw the first two prequels on cable (non-pay per view), will probably watch the third one there as well.

You are the prophesied one. Any idea what your midiclorine count is?

Savok
05-30-2005, 09:16 AM
Two, a committee has been set up to investigate the replies of "two what?".

Mason
05-30-2005, 09:23 AM
I wonder if IJ4 will have a scene of Indy jumping over a shark.

Grimgrock
05-30-2005, 09:42 AM
If we can get back to the subject of Indiana Jones and stop bashing Lucas for Star Wars, I think a fourth Indiana Jones movie is probably a bad idea. Harrison Ford is older today than Sean Connery was in 1990 when he was playing Indy's father. I know the guy is phyiscally fit, but I can't see him doing any thing that requires a great deal of physical activity (beating up Nazis, running faster than big rolling boulders, etc)

Just because the script was approved doesn't mean that the movie will move forward. If it does, I concur with the person who said they should use Sean Patrick Flannery. If he'll do it. Just don't use Ben af-leck.

kokyunage
05-30-2005, 10:18 AM
running faster than big rolling boulders

I just had a hilarious mental image. The movie starts with an old Indiana Jones running away from a boulder. Then it catches it up to him and crushes him. It either ends there or that's the movie begins from there and takes a "10 years earlier" direction.

Cpt.Justice
05-30-2005, 11:05 AM
I think Ford can do it. It's not like he did anything *that* physically taxing in the originals that wasn't aided by SFX. He aged really well, and honstly doesn't look that much older. And you can't deny that a plot where Indy comes out of retirement to kick more (neo)nazi ass wouldn't be cool. But it's still gonna suck.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 11:18 AM
The only reason to watch an Indiana Jones movie is Harrison Ford. No Harrison Ford, no Indiana Jones.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Are you hard wired to keep producing posts like this all over this site?

I'm hard wired to give my opinion, just like you people continually bash the new triliogy.

For starters, Empire Strikes Back is considered the best of the lot by most fans and it was directed Irvin Kershner. Had Lucas passed it on to someone else (competent of course) we'd of thrown him a party. If as you say he had no passion then he should have let someone else do it.

How exactly is The Empire Strikes Back the best Star Wars movie? Being considered the best by most of the fans doesn't mean jack, most J-RPG fans think that Final Fantasy 7 is the best game of all time. Empire had some good stuff going on for it, and ya I liked it a lot, but how much did it further the story? The only really big things that happend was that Luke found out who Vader was, and Luke found Yoda and started training. Which is one of the big problems with the original trilogy, there was very little content in the movies, half of them were either mindless banter, or shooting stuff.

These movies weren't made for the fans, they were made for his hip pocket and for his obession with pissing on his own creation, "luck" has little to do with it.

Ya, he should of passed it on to someone else so that when the new guy "fucks it up" (you know, by making a decent movie) you could then crucify him too.

And you just couldn't resist a mindless stab could you.

I'm not the fucktard wearing the pink glasses here.

Grimgrock
05-30-2005, 11:42 AM
Does anyone know anything about this screenwriter whose script has the approval of Lucas?

Crabby
05-30-2005, 12:35 PM
I think Harrison Ford is a little too jaded to appraise his old role. Hasn't anyone paid attention to his attitude? The guy is a crabcake now.

I'd rather not have this movie made, even with Ford. Although, casting Flannery is a very tempting proposition.

Mondopest
05-30-2005, 01:04 PM
Hey - Affleck can play anything! =)

Grimgrock
05-30-2005, 01:41 PM
My gerbil is a better actor than Ben Affleck.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 01:50 PM
My gerbil is a better actor than Ben Affleck.

Chasing Amy > You.

Grimgrock
05-30-2005, 01:59 PM
Very true. I'll give you that one. Still, I stand by my opinion. The movie wasn't great because of Ben Af-leck. It was great because of Kevin Smith's writing.

Mondopest
05-30-2005, 02:30 PM
Im not saying Affleck is a good actor, I am just saying he can play anything. From Phantoms to Chasing Amy (which he was very good in), to Jersey Girl (again - he was very good in it), to the Director's Cut of Daredevil (which was light years better than the theatrical release).

emjoi
05-30-2005, 02:50 PM
The big thing the Prequels lacked was Harrison Ford.
They desperately needed a character with a bit of spark and humour.

Personally, I even found Crusades to be one film too many in the Indy series.

Lutheran
05-30-2005, 03:11 PM
Affleck can act its just the scripts he gets offered mostly suck , peeps hate the dude cause he was plowing JLO who was hated cause she seems to have the world by the balls , no one should have it as good as she does..movie career , modeling stuff , music career , and a nice big round asss..

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 03:14 PM
They desperately needed a character with a bit of spark and humour.

Ya... that was -supposed- to be Obi-wan in Episodes II and III... But that character just can't fit that role very well. But then again, those movies were about Jedi... not exactly the funniest people in the world.

splatstick
05-30-2005, 05:45 PM
How exactly is The Empire Strikes Back the best Star Wars movie?


It's pretty much universally considered the best star wars movie. Critics, fans, pretty much everyone, aside from the junior highers who seemed to love episode three when I went to see it.


Ya, he should of passed it on to someone else so that when the new guy "fucks it up" (you know, by making a decent movie) you could then crucify him too.


Who said Episode Three was a decent movie? I cringed through it, and lost it completely at James Earl Jones's heart-wrenching "NOOOOOOOO" at the end.

I have a feeling this will be like the new Star Wars for me. Of course I'll have a bad feeling about it, but I'll still buy a ticket and hope to God it'll be good. Maybe it'll work out better this time around... but probably not.

EDIT: Ewan McGregory carried that whole movie, he seemed like the only one with acting skill at all. Which is weird, because I've seen most of those other actors in movies, and I KNOW they can act... but why didn't they?

Grimgrock
05-30-2005, 07:12 PM
EDIT: Ewan McGregory carried that whole movie, he seemed like the only one with acting skill at all. Which is weird, because I've seen most of those other actors in movies, and I KNOW they can act... but why didn't they?

Simple answer: Acting well is not a top priority of Mr. Lucas. Getting the take and moving to the next scene is. Partially I understand his reasoning. With a movie like Star Wars, it is very expensive to have take after take to get the acting just right. He might be rich but he doesn't have bottomless wealth. It is his production company so in effect, it is his money being spent. With an effects heavy picture, acting often takes a back seat to other priorities. This has been true since Episode I. Heck it's been true since Episode IV. If this weren't true, we *never* would have had Jake Lloyd. We'd have had the kid from The Sixth Sense.

Personally I agree that Ewan McGregor was the best of the actors in Episode III. However, it was Ian McDermid (sp?) who was having the most fun. Finally after 22 years he finally gets to be the Emperor everyone feared but didn't really see in Episode VI. It is clear that Natalie Portman is trying her best to put these movies behind her. Good for her. She is an excellent actress (Garden State, Leon: just two examples). McDermid will go back to stage acting and McGregor will go back to Romantic Comedy drivel.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 08:17 PM
Romantic comedy drivel...? Whatever, Moulin Rouge, Big Fish, and nearly every other movie he's been in pwns your friggin soul. Ewan McGregor is one of the best actors doing films today, show some damn respect.

Heretic Machine
05-30-2005, 08:20 PM
It's pretty much universally considered the best star wars movie. Critics, fans, pretty much everyone, aside from the junior highers who seemed to love episode three when I went to see it.

Again, popularity =/= quality. People look at the old triliogy through rose tinted lenses. They aren't bad movies, they're Star Wars movies, just like the new triliogy. Episode I was no worse than Episode IV, Episode II could be considered to be about as good as episode VI, and Episode III is just as good as Episode V. But purists will never be happy, so you guys can continue to hate and angst over it all you want.

And yes, James Earl Jones' entire segment in Episode III sucked ass.

funtownarcade
05-30-2005, 10:11 PM
Does anyone know anything about this screenwriter whose script has the approval of Lucas?

Apparently he wrote Rush Hour 2 :(

Cuba
05-30-2005, 10:40 PM
Didn't Harrison Ford say after Last Crusade that there would not be any more Indy movies?

What if it turns out that Lara Croft is actually Indy's daughter, who lived with her wealthy british mother and has only just found out who her father is?? :D

Citizen Philip
05-31-2005, 02:09 AM
Cut the guy some slack... He would of caught -so much- shit from letting someone else direct Episode III. These movies were made for the fans, I doubt he has any passion left for Star Wars, so we're really lucky he decided to do them anyhow.

Of course I'm sure he also saw tons of cash from doing them as well.

EDIT: Besides that, I still say that the original trilogy are highly overrated.

Check your credits. Lucas directed "A New Hope" only. I won't even comment on the lame ass triptic "baby anakin, teenage anakin, young man anakin" crap Lucas thought we be a good idea.

kid cabelgo
05-31-2005, 10:23 AM
I don't really have much of an opinion on this new one because I don't know anything about it.

Hehe, that doesn't seem to stop most of the other folks on this site.

kickmybum
05-31-2005, 11:57 AM
Yeah, Indiana Jone will find Antonio Banderas in a small villa in Mexico and teach him to be an archeologist and save the world on the side.

KNOTE
05-31-2005, 01:15 PM
I wonder if it has a scene where Indy steps in doodie.