[Movies] Upcoming DC Movies Receive Bad News

[Dr.Finger]

Not a good day to be making a DC property into a movie. First Whedon (http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/02/whedon-no-longer-making-wonder-woman-movie/). You (hopefully) heard it here first: I’m no longer slated to make Wonder Woman. What? But how? My chest… so tight! Okay, stay calm and I’ll explain as best I can. It’s pretty complicated, so bear with me. I had a take on the film that, well, nobody liked. Hey, not that complicated. Let me stress first that everybody at the studio and Silver Pictures were cool and professional. We just saw different movies, and at the price range this kind of movie hangs in, that’s never gonna work. Non-sympatico. It happens all the time. I don’t think any of us expected it to this time, but it did. Everybody knows how long I was taking, what a struggle that script was, and though I felt good about what I was coming up with, it was never gonna be a simple slam-dunk. I like to think it rolled around the rim a little bit, but others may have differing views.
And Goyer (http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/02/goyer-my-version-of-the-flash-is-dead-at-wb/), announcing that his version of The Flash is dead at WB. Well, I’ve been waiting a few months to relate this news — but I am sad to say that my version of The Flash is dead at WB. The God’s honest truth is that WB and myself simply couldn’t agree on what would make for a cool Flash film. I’m quite proud of the screenplay I turned it. I threw my heart into it and I genuinely think it would’ve been the basis of a ground-breaking film. But as of now, the studio is heading off in a completely different direction. I expect you’ll hear of some new developments on that front shortly.
Neither is a huge surprise. Goyer had been attached to The Flash for almost three years now, but since then there has been almost nothing mentioned about the project. Whedon leaving Wonder Woman has also been rumored for some time.

Thanks to Blog@Newsarama (http://blog.newsarama.com/).

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's hard for any DC characters other than Batman and Superman to make the jump to the big screen because every property is automatically locked into Warner Bros.

[Esquilax1138]

To me a Wonder Woman movie should be done in the B-movie style, just go over the top with cheese and cheap special effects, with more bouncing than a DOA game, and get it in for less than 10 mil to make.

And a Flash movie? Would anyone care?

[Captain Awesome]

I'm glad Goyer is off of Flash. He's a horrible director, he's better when he works with someone of talent to look over his work.

Never cared for WW.

[Dracula-X]

Speaking of Wonder Woman, I'd still let Lynda Carter touch my twig & berries.

Just saying...

[GyCot]

OR Whedon bailed on Wonder Woman for Firefly: Season 2! Confirmed, here at Evil Avatar! (we could pretend...)

[TheHulk]

Other than being hot, I never understood the appeal of Wonder Woman either. She's almost as bad as Aquaman.

[Zeal]

Bring back Buffy.

[Everlost_MI]

As a Whedon fan I am fine with him not doing WW, but let's see something else aside from Astonishing X-Men (which is great) and the hand he has in the new Season 8 of Buffy via Dark Horse Comics.

[KNOTE]

WB is a bunch of clowns. Too many cooks in the kitchen for DC properties. I'll be amazed if they ever make a decent film outside of the Batman franchise. They'll never make a good DC comics game.

[Deadend]

WB is a bunch of clowns. Too many cooks in the kitchen for DC properties. I'll be amazed if they ever make a decent film outside of the Batman franchise. They'll never make a good DC comics game.
Yeah, that is very true, 100 bullets got canned... Superman was junk.

Hell, they are better off if they quit letting EA make their games for them. 3 horrible games in a row based on the comics. But Justice League sucked as well, and came out at the same time the awesome Marvel Alliance came out as well.

Also, the DC universe just sucks for making into other media. Vertigo however... can have so many movies and TV shows based on the series it's almost not funny.

[Heretic Machine]

I really want Whedon on another television series, as that is my preferred format of entertainment. With the explosion in the evening scifi/fantasy drama, you'd think he could get something going. Guess not though, he might not even be interested in television anymore.

[Wasson_]

Hurm...so basically "Two horrible movies that shouldn't be made just got worse and or closer to not being made at all."

Good.

[Anthony W]

A Joss Whedon WW movie would have bombed so hard that it would have killed anyone not living in a fallout shelter.

[Sazime]

Whedon being of WW bothers me, because I think the guy knows enough about the comic history and cares enough about it to want to do a good job.

Goyer being off Flash? No skin off my back. I'm kinda happy about it. Aside from co-writing credits, the guy is hit and miss. He's a decent editor at best, a bad director at worst.

[Captain Awesome]

WB is a bunch of clowns. Too many cooks in the kitchen for DC properties. I'll be amazed if they ever make a decent film outside of the Batman franchise.

WB does own DC comics. But on top of that, im also on the fence about this whole thing. While im glad they're re-thinking about these licenses for film. They could just be looking into them more and making sure they get the treatmeant they may really deserve?

Look at Marvel. They just keep pumping out piece of crap after piece of crap with their own licenses. I can't even fathom how fucking horible Ghost Rider is going to be. So who knows, maybe BB lit a fire in their ass and they might really want their comic licenses to have more richness? I don't know.

Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, Superman Returns (although slow, was decent), and Constantine (not great, but better than I thought) turned out fine I think. The upcoming "Stardust" film also shows promise. I think BB and V are the better of the lot in terms of DC comic films. But I would love to see a well done Flash movie.

Also, the DC universe just sucks for making into other media. Vertigo however... can have so many movies and TV shows based on the series it's almost not funny.

Its not that the universe sucks, its that comic films are sucking more and more now. And no ones taking the time to really fill them out right. A lot of Vertigo stuff can be done in film but things like "Preacher" will need a running series. Because too much cool shit happens in that storyline to do in one film. I hope the HBO series happens and its done well.

I'm still worried about "The Watchmen" film. But who knows, maybe Zack Snyder will be able to do it well for film.

[archon]

As a Whedon fan I am fine with him not doing WW, but let's see something else aside from Astonishing X-Men (which is great) and the hand he has in the new Season 8 of Buffy via Dark Horse Comics.

Don't forget Runaways! He's also doing a new Serenity miniseries (comic of course).

Personally I'm glad he's no longer doing Wonder Woman because that reduces my 1% chance I had to actually seing a movie about Wonder Woman to 0. And yeah, he needs to get back in the television game.

[Everlost_MI]

Don't forget Runaways! He's also doing a new Serenity miniseries (comic of course).

Personally I'm glad he's no longer doing Wonder Woman because that reduces my 1% chance I had to actually seing a movie about Wonder Woman to 0. And yeah, he needs to get back in the television game.

You're right! Thanks! I knew that but I didn't recall it when I ranted/posted earlier.

[Kefkataran]

We've got a series of bad stories for people looking forward to movies based on DC superheroes. First from his Myspace blog, Batman Begins writer David Goyer revealed that he is no longer working on the script for the movie adaptation of The Flash. From his post (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=110273944&blogID=225189736&MyToken=5496ff0c-f883-4947-b238-fc2513d75a72):

Well, I've been waiting a few months to relate this news -- but I am sad to say that my version of The Flash is dead at WB. The God's honest truth is that WB and myself simply couldn't agree on what would make for a cool Flash film. I'm quite proud of the screenplay I turned it. I threw my heart into it and I genuinely think it would've been the basis of a ground-breaking film. But as of now, the studio is heading off in a completely different direction. I expect you'll hear of some new developments on that front shortly.

As if that weren't sad enough, Newsarama brings us the news that Joss Whedon is no longer working on his Wonder Woman script. From that story (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=100068):

You (hopefully) heard it here first: I'm no longer slated to make Wonder Woman. What? But how? My chest... so tight! Okay, stay calm and I'll explain as best I can. It's pretty complicated, so bear with me. I had a take on the film that, well, nobody liked. Hey, not that complicated.

Let me stress first that everybody at the studio and Silver Pictures were cool and professional. We just saw different movies, and at the price range this kind of movie hangs in, that's never gonna work. Non-sympatico. It happens all the time. I don't think any of us expected it to this time, but it did. Everybody knows how long I was taking, what a struggle that script was, and though I felt good about what I was coming up with, it was never gonna be a simple slam-dunk. I like to think it rolled around the rim a little bit, but others may have differing views.

Hell. So do comics based around the DC characters ever have the chance of reaching the saturation that Marvel has? Are we going to get anything besides Superman and Batman? And will it actually be GOOD?

[JediSanf]

Ok, Joss. That's cool (Wonder Woman is a tough IP anyways). Now, bring us MORE FIREFLY!

[captainspankypants]

Sorry, but a Buffy-style Wonder Woman sounds like crap to me. I'm not all that disappointed.

[balamoor]

As if that weren't sad enough, Newsarama brings us the news that Joss Whedon is no longer working on his Wonder Woman script. From that story:

/Sam Jackson Voice: The only Mutha Fuckin thing Joss Whedon should be workin on is another Mutha Fuckin Firefly series. :cool:

[GrinR]

Joss is a no-brainer for Wonder Woman. You can hate if you like, but just wait until the whistling shit-stream of what they come up with melts your eyes clean out.

Also, give it up folks. Firefly was a good party. It's over now. Go home.

[Milanoorange]

Sorry, but a Buffy-style Wonder Woman sounds like crap to me. I'm not all that disappointed.

Whedon is known for more than Buffy.

[Sazime]

Thread stealer! (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24874)

[GrinR]

Look at Marvel. They just keep pumping out piece of crap after piece of crap with their own licenses. I can't even fathom how fucking horible Ghost Rider is going to be

Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Blade
Blade 2
X-Men
X-Men 2
The Hulk

Shhhhh, Cap, shhhh. It's nappy time.

[Inspector Fowler]

I think of it this way, using my "college dating analogy".

DC is one of your buddies. He is okay looking and nice enough, he could get dates. But he never goes on any- he thinks he knows everything about women and therefore gets really picky. DC refuses to talk to cute girls because he finds flaws in them whether real or imaginary. As college goes by he becomes further and further removed from the dating scene and it becomes less and less likely that he'll have many successful dates. DC keeps remembering the one or two "really awesome" dates he had back in high school (original Superman, Batman Begins) and if he is vaguely afraid a date won't be like those ones, he won't do it.

Marvel is your other buddy. He's not quite as good looking as DC but he is really confident. He'll talk to any girl and if one catches his eye he'll really chat her up. Marvel goes on a ton of dates. They are not all successes (see: Daredevil, Hulk, Electra), but he gets laid more than a lot of guys (see X-men and Spiderman movies). He doesn't think he knows everything about women but he knows enough. The more Marvel dates around, the more adept at it he becomes, and he gets more and more quality dates. By the end of college, this guy has made himself some pretty good memories.

Edit: Look at it this way- the only way to get people interested in your IPs is to show them to people. DC refuses to. At all. So, outside of Batman and Superman, every single other character in the DCU will stay relegated to comic book shops and nerd talk on the internet. Sweet.

Marvel, on the other hand, puts it out there for everybody to see. The result is that people get interested in Marvel stuff who wouldn't normally. I have bought XMen Legends, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and my interest in the Marvel IPs came primarily from the Xmen movies and the Spiderman movies. I now find myself buying more Marvel comics than DC comics, and this is due in large part to my interest in the characters, thanks again to the movies.

[Captain Awesome]

Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Blade
Blade 2
X-Men
X-Men 2
The Hulk

Shhhhh, Cap, shhhh. It's nappy time.

4 Licenses right there? The SM films are great, that's Marvels Mickey Mouse. Blade 1 & 2 was excellent, Trinity sucked something fierce. X1 was okay, X2 was great, X3? Horrible. The Hulk was at best decent but bombed in the box office. Let's see:

Captain America (Straight to bootleg)
Man-Thing (Straight-to-video then Sci-fi channel)
Blade Trinity (Nuff said)
The Punisher (I don't even know what this was. The one with Ivan Drago was better)
Elektra (Yikes)
Daredevil (Kill me now)
Fantastic Four (while it did well in the box office, was fucking horrible)
Ghost Rider (This one im seeing because of how bad it looks)

For every film Marvel puts out that is decent they have 3 others already waiting to ruin. It's a really sensitive gauge for Marvel. Marvel is breaking even with their films right now. After Catwoman and the Shumacher Batman films I don't blame WB/DC for being weary about whats gets signed on as a film to certain people.

[GrinR]

There's my Captain Awesome!

It's safe to say that there are crap releases. I'm only saying that the claim that they keep on pumping out crap movie after crap movie is overstating it by a wiiide margin.

Maybe you don't remember the ORIGINAL Punisher. Or Captain America. We're in a GOLDEN AGE for superhero movies, and you can thank X-Men IMO.

[Ernst_Jager]

Not a big fan of Joss Whedon so this news doesn't bother me much. Not a huge fan of the Flash either. That TV show sucked balls.

[Captain Awesome]

There's my Captain Awesome!

It's safe to say that there are crap releases. I'm only saying that the claim that they keep on pumping out crap movie after crap movie is overstating it by a wiiide margin.

Maybe you don't remember the ORIGINAL Punisher. Or Captain America. We're in a GOLDEN AGE for superhero movies, and you can thank X-Men IMO.

Well when you look at the ratio. Marvel is putting out more bombs than blockbusters. But I guess they're learning or not? They do have X-men and Spider-Man to thank for their box office successes. Marvel is also starting up their once-failed Marvel Films division again. They want to cut more corners and costs.

While that scares me, I do have hope for the upcoming Iron-Man film.

[Captain Awesome]

While I thought the FF series was okay. I really loved the film. I think Whedon has great writing and directing potential.

I'm glad he's not on WW. I'd like to see him do something else though. People really need to let go of the whole "Bring back FF!" thing. Because it's done now.


P.S. Merge the original thread with this one?

[Schnoogs]

To be honest unless the bad news pertain to the next batman movie I could not care less about any other DC character....with maybe superman being the exception.

[GrinR]

Man, again, I gotta tell you even Elektra was solid platinum in comparison with The Punisher with Dolph Lungren. We can afford to be picky precisely because the bar got raised so high by the huge hits. Even Daredevil wasn't shit - it was just really bad. Fantastic Four was bad, but not really bad.

As for the non-releases... come on, that's silly talk. If it's not promoted and in wide release it doesn't count. Man-Thing? Please.

[Sazime]

Goyer sucks at anything other than co-writing.

I'm a Whedon fanboy.

You know how I feel.

[Gitaroomaan]

It's fairly difficult for DC movies to get made in the sense that DC (and it's properties) are owned by Warner Brothers, so the only movies that are going to get produced are through WB. Marvel, on the other hand, has the flexibility of shopping its franchises around to any studio it wishes.

[Captain Awesome]

Man, again, I gotta tell you even Elektra was solid platinum in comparison with The Punisher with Dolph Lungren. We can afford to be picky precisely because the bar got raised so high by the huge hits. Even Daredevil wasn't shit - it was just really bad. Fantastic Four was bad, but not really bad.

As for the non-releases... come on, that's silly talk. If it's not promoted and in wide release it doesn't count. Man-Thing? Please.

Well they tried to to sell it to a studio but no one wanted to buy it. They also tried to get an actual studio budget for Man-Thing, again no one took a bite. So they made a straight-to-video release. The same thing happened to the "original" Fantastic Four film (Not the Alba one). While in the middle of the production, they just shut it all down. Marvel never let anyone see that one.

Other franchises helped raise the bar other than the "big two". The Rocketeer, Sin City, Hellboy, The Crow helped the comic film industry along quite a bit. I'd love to see other licenses like this instead of the usual spandex stuff.

I think stuff like 100 Bullets and Blade of the Immortal would be great big-budget series or films.

[The Great Gatsby]

Ah, who gives a shit about those other films. As long as Batman isn't fucked with, then I'm a happy camper!

[Captain Awesome]

It's fairly difficult for DC movies to get made in the sense that DC (and it's properties) are owned by Warner Brothers, so the only movies that are going to get produced are through WB. Marvel, on the other hand, has the flexibility of shopping its franchises around to any studio it wishes.

That doesn't really make much of a difference. A movie studio is a movie studio. They can hire any talent they want to create a film for anyone movie company that has the money for it.

[Schnoogs]

That doesn't really make much of a difference. A movie studio is a movie studio. They can hire any talent they want to create a film for anyone movie company that has the money for it.

Not true at all...thats what prevented spiderman from being made for over a decade. The studio that had the rights to the film couldn't work with James Cameron because he was under an exclusive contract with Fox.

[Captain Awesome]

Not true at all...thats what prevented spiderman from being made for over a decade. The studio that had the rights to the film couldn't work with James Cameron because he was under an exclusive contract with Fox.

I thought it had to do with Marvel not being able to get the film rights from the movie studio they sold it to years ago?

And if thats true, a Cameron Spider-Man film would have been damn interesting :cool:

[Dr.Finger]

David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD was even worse than the Dolph Lundgren Punisher.

[GrinR]

Yeah but that happened post-resurgence. God... the HOFF.

[Captain Awesome]

David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD was even worse than the Dolph Lundgren Punisher.

haha I forgot about that.

[Rook34]

Damn shame, that. I used to LOVE teh Flash on T. V., though strangely he never fought any other 'super-hero'. I always thought the Flash was one of the coolest DC sup's, right after Superman. I sure hope the movie doesn't end up sucking...

[Sazime]

Damn shame, that. I used to LOVE teh Flash on T. V., though strangely he never fought any other 'super-hero'. I always thought the Flash was one of the coolest DC sup's, right after Superman. I sure hope the movie doesn't end up sucking...
And you know who worked on the Flash series? Dan "I can't write comics to support my family" Bilson. It's amazing that something he produced was good, especially considering his new Flash run.

[Schnoogs]

I thought it had to do with Marvel not being able to get the film rights from the movie studio they sold it to years ago?

And if thats true, a Cameron Spider-Man film would have been damn interesting :cool:

Sony had the rights I believe...Cameron wrote the screenplay...20th Cent Fox wouldn't "loan" him.

Fox paid cameron 500 million to make a certain number of films for them.

[Draft]

That's actually good news for Wonder Woman.

[GunnyMo]

Hah! I get to say to someone else: ALREADY POSTED, BIATCHES! :D

Ol' Doc Finger posted this yesterday. ;)

[GunnyMo]

Merge-orama!

[Kefkataran]

Sorry, but a Buffy-style Wonder Woman sounds like crap to me. I'm not all that disappointed.

Um, what? Who said he was going to make a "Buffy-style" Wonder Woman? And what style of Wonder Woman would you prefer?

Joss is a no-brainer for Wonder Woman. You can hate if you like, but just wait until the whistling shit-stream of what they come up with melts your eyes clean out.


I still have a bit of hope as Warner Bros hasn't managed to release anything SUPER-shitty yet in their superhero adaptations, but there's bound to be a first...

Not a big fan of Joss Whedon so this news doesn't bother me much. Not a huge fan of the Flash either. That TV show sucked balls.

That TV show did suck, but it also has nothing to do with the comic, the movie, or David Goyer.

Goyer sucks at anything other than co-writing.


Was Goyer co-writing with Batman Begins?

[Deathwave]

Why is it so hard for DC to get their characters made into good movies? Do a Teen Titans movie, live action, with Deathstroke as the villain. Make a Justice League movie, with high end CGI in the vein of Pixar's movies...not necessarily true to life, but good effects, and an interesting art style.

Or, just do what Marvel has been doing, and release straight to DVD movies to generate interest in your properties. Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, and Iron Man have been awesome, IMO. The Dr. Strange clip on Iron Man blew me away, too.

DC could make it happen, it just seems like Marvel has more marketable characters, because they make them more marketable. I don't think DC tries hard enough.

[Sazime]

Was Goyer co-writing with Batman Begins?
Yes, Nolan worked on the screenplay with him. I'm not saying Goyer has never done anything for superhero movies, but he's done it with someone else's help.

And Gunny, why take this off the front page? What? No comic love at all?

[Beelzebud]

Good. The world has seen too many crappy comic book movies lately.

[GunnyMo]

And Gunny, why take this off the front page? What? No comic love at all?

It is on the front page. ;)

[Sazime]

It is on the front page. ;)
Ah, crap. How did I lose track of that? :P

[Schnoogs]

Good. The world has seen too many crappy comic book movies lately.


Batman Begins was enough to make up for 1 million crappy comic book movies.

[ECM]

And a Flash movie? Would anyone care?

*raises hand*

[Dr.Finger]

I love the Flash character (or at least I did before IC :( ) but I just can't envision it as a movie. What I can envision as a very badass movie is Green Lantern. That would/could kick all kinds of ass,

[Sazime]

Speaking of all this, has anyone seen the old JLA Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSO7FobnMzc)?

[Schnoogs]

Speaking of all this, has anyone seen the old JLA Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSO7FobnMzc)?


Speechless....But hey, it has Captain Speares from Band of Brothers!!!

[ECM]

Speaking of all this, has anyone seen the old JLA Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSO7FobnMzc)?

I keep trying to forget about that...thanks for opening old wounds :(

[Deathwave]

Speaking of all this, has anyone seen the old JLA Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSO7FobnMzc)?

I could only barely watch the opening credits. Horrid...reminds me of the Cap movie...ugh.

[jordanlund]

A better question to ask is "How did properties like Wonder Woman or Flash get ahead of Green Lantern?"

DC has very much a superhero hierarchy:

Superman
Batman

Green Lantern
Flash
Wonder Woman

Green Arrow
Aquaman
Hawkman
Martian Manhunter

(Everyone else... guest star status. Plastic Man, Elongated Man, the Atom, Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, the Question, etc.)

But you know what? I'd still prefer to see a WWII period JSA flick than any of these...

[Sazime]

But you know what? I'd still prefer to see a WWII period JSA flick than any of these...
That would be pretty awesome. Why is Hollywood afraid of setting superhero movies in the past?

[ECM]

Hell. So do comics based around the DC characters ever have the chance of reaching the saturation that Marvel has? Are we going to get anything besides Superman and Batman? And will it actually be GOOD?

I think the problem (as someone else noted) is that any DC comic property has to be done by WB or one of its affiliates (New Line, for example) which severely cuts down on their ability to get produced. That said, I'd like to add that Marvel's film output, at best, has been mixed and some of their properties have just been flat-out awful (the animated stuff is horrendous and Man Thing...Jesus, talk about bad.)

[Dr.Finger]

I've said this a few times, but what character/property is DC's equivalent of Blade? A minor character that can be adapted into a profitable franchise without the wailing and gnashing of fanboys that accompanies major character adaptations.

[Sazime]

I've said this a few times, but what character/property is DC's equivalent of Blade? A minor character that can be adapted into a profitable franchise without the wailing and gnashing of fanboys that accompanies major character adaptations.
Does or has DC done a successful book of various short stories like Midnight Sons or Dark Horse Presents? Take your pick from one of those.

[maja]

I'm not too familiar with the DC universe. But of the superheroes that I know I would like to see a movie made out of the following;
Green Lantern
Green Arrow
Shazam

[ECM]

Captain Marvel (Shazam) has been in dev limbo at New Line for *years*, *sigh.*

[Sazime]

Captain Marvel (Shazam) has been in dev limbo at New Line for *years*, *sigh.*
Gah, that sucks. Like most literary rights... in limbo... bastards.

[Kefkataran]

Why is it so hard for DC to get their characters made into good movies? Do a Teen Titans movie, live action, with Deathstroke as the villain. Make a Justice League movie, with high end CGI in the vein of Pixar's movies...not necessarily true to life, but good effects, and an interesting art style.

The most frustrating part is that, unlike Marvel, DC has all their licenses under ONE movie studio, so it'd be so easy for them to really have a full "universe" in their films.

Or, just do what Marvel has been doing, and release straight to DVD movies to generate interest in your properties. Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, and Iron Man have been awesome, IMO. The Dr. Strange clip on Iron Man blew me away, too.

They're actually doing that starting this year. And I think they're doing it better than Marvel, because they're basing the films on storylines from the comics.

[QUOTE=jordanlund]A better question to ask is "How did properties like Wonder Woman or Flash get ahead of Green Lantern?"

DC has very much a superhero hierarchy:/QUOTE]

I agree with you on a personal like level, but Wonder Woman's always been considered one of the 'big three' by DC editors and writers, even if she's easily the one with the smallest number of good stories.

[Deathwave]

They're actually doing that starting this year. And I think they're doing it better than Marvel, because they're basing the films on storylines from the comics.

That's good to hear, and it will be even better if a JSA DVD release is planned. :)

[Dr.Finger]

As of now DC is making direct-to-DVD releases of Superman/Doomsday (kind of lame), Teen Titans: The Judas Contract (pretty cool) and A New Frontier (very cool). There is also a very strong rumor that if these do even decently the next project will be Kingdom Come (hells yeah).

[Kefkataran]

That's good to hear, and it will be even better if a JSA DVD release is planned. :)

Hopefully eventually. I'm very much looking forward to the whole line-up.

Also, more or less off-topic, but it looks like starting this summer DC is FINALLY collecting Geoff Johns's Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E.S. series into trades called "JSA Presents" or something like that. Super-excited, as that series came out before I got into comics, so I've never had a chance to read it yet.

[Xerxes]

A better question to ask is "How did properties like Wonder Woman or Flash get ahead of Green Lantern?"

DC has very much a superhero hierarchy:

Superman
Batman

Green Lantern
Flash
Wonder Woman

Green Arrow
Aquaman
Hawkman
Martian Manhunter

(Everyone else... guest star status. Plastic Man, Elongated Man, the Atom, Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, the Question, etc.)

But you know what? I'd still prefer to see a WWII period JSA flick than any of these...

Gonna disagree and say is above the Green Lantern by a hair. That's just me maybe. But if I go ask my dad who isn't into comics one bit who is the flash and what kind of costume he where he can tell me that straight up. You seen him around. Hell, his name is just catchy. :rolleyes:

[Xerxes]

I'm glad Goyer is off of Flash. He's a horrible director, he's better when he works with someone of talent to look over his work.

Never cared for WW.

Sorry. Goyer sucks balls at directing. Writing however he's pretty descent.

Me being the executive producer would be sound something like this.

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/images/photos/ryan_reynolds_03.jpg +http://images.askmen.com/women/celeb_profiles_actress/pictures/rachel_mcadams/rachel_mcadams.jpg+http://www.unificationfrance.com/IMG/jpg/0420_goyer.jpg+ some kick ass director who isn't doing anything and definitely not Goyer. Seriously I would hurt his feelings to know how much he should never ever direct ever again.

I couldn't think of a face to do villain-esque right, but then again I don't know any flash villains.

[Sazime]

The greatest Strange movie in existance has already been made (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077469/). The only thing better would be having Combs play Strange.