Ghostbusters Game Confirmed! [Archive]

bapenguin

01-16-2007, 05:57 AM

Yesterday we reported on leaked videos of a possible Ghost Busters game (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23847) from developer Zootfly. A lot of people thought it was fake, but today IGN confirmed (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/755/755532p1.html) that the game is indeed real, and the videos are indeed real. Sweet! But there is bad news, as of now the project is on hold.Bostjan Troha, CEO of ZootFly, told IGN UK: "We are very glad to see the overwhelming response to the Ghostbusters prototype movies. What you've seen is indeed in-game footage of early prototypes on the Xbox 360, running on ZootFly's proprietary engine. Due to licensing issues, further development of the Ghostbusters game hit a bump on the road. But everybody here at ZootFly is working actively on resolving the challenges with the owners of the Ghostbusters IP.

Oh man, I hope this gets resolved. The videos looked TIGHT!

Gorvi

01-16-2007, 06:00 AM

Woohoo! That thing looked pretty damn nice. I hope they can work out the licensing (and make a PS3 version ;)).

Vandenh

01-16-2007, 06:03 AM

Looked like a GoW mod.

Harlan Hoyt

01-16-2007, 06:05 AM

Heretic Machine

01-16-2007, 06:12 AM

The owners of Ghostbusters would have to be retarded to pass up a chance like this. Even if they have no plans to resurrect the films, this would be an excellent use of the IP that could breed further projects in the games industry down the road.

Syl

01-16-2007, 06:15 AM

Viral marketing at it's finest.

Still, i have to say i'm interested. Gears of War mod or not; it just looked like a lot of fun.

Ph00p

01-16-2007, 06:20 AM

Well the gameplay of the movie looked horrible and simplistic, of course theres more to it than what they've shown so far.

But I agree you'd have to be retarded to turn this one down, imagine if they could put it on the Wii! *cums with joy*.

Buddha Lotus

01-16-2007, 06:27 AM

Wasnt there a *pretty* good Ghostbusters game on the NES?

Suicidal ShiZuru

01-16-2007, 06:35 AM

I loved the game on the Genesis when I was a kid. All I know is, if this doesnt proceed, some people are gonna have to be hanged.

jBusy

01-16-2007, 06:36 AM

"We're making the game; now will someone please let us legally make the game?"

I don't think that's how it happened. Usually in these situations, the following happens:

1. Publisher decides it wants a license
2. Publisher gets a developer to make the game.
3. Publisher talks to IP Holder. IP Holder may request a prototype before license approval.
4. Publisher, Dev, and IP Holder work together on a prototype.
5. IP Holder makes final call, negotiations for license.

Manzy

01-16-2007, 06:37 AM

So what possessed them to include RAAM in their promo pics?

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 06:43 AM

I'm willing to bet the developers leaked this out onto the net in an attempt to generate a buzz for the game. Once people start talking about it, they're probably hoping that the IP owner would see the dollar signs and greenlight further development/publishing/distribution.

By chance, does anyone know who owns the Ghostbusters license?

Venkman

01-16-2007, 06:52 AM

HELL YES! Oh, how I love my 360. And ghostbusters.

Instant buy for me.

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 06:53 AM

If ever there was a game that was supposed to be on Wii, this is it. The Wii remote would make a perfect proton stream emitter, and you could 'throw' the trap with the nunchuck.

Gorvi

01-16-2007, 06:55 AM

If ever there was a game that was supposed to be on Wii, this is it. The Wii remote would make a perfect proton stream emitter, and you could 'throw' the trap with the nunchuck.

That would be a great mechanic and a hell of a lot of fun. Heck, that could even work for multiplayer on the same screen with the "don't cross the streams" thing actually being possible. :)

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 06:58 AM

That would be a great mechanic and a hell of a lot of fun. Heck, that could even work for multiplayer on the same screen with the "don't cross the streams" thing actually being doable. :)
Agreed. When a friend and I saw movies of Elebits, that's all we could think of; Ghostbusters on Wii.

Don't get me wrong, the 360 version looks like fun, but in a much more traditional way. In fact, as others pointed out, it looks like a GOW mod. Having the completely immersive experience of actually pointing and shooting the proton stream on Wii would be a complete blast.

Someone at the developer HAD to realize that.

bapenguin

01-16-2007, 07:00 AM

I used to love the Atari Ghost Busters game.

bakes73

01-16-2007, 07:07 AM

TrackZero

01-16-2007, 07:15 AM

If ever there was a game that was supposed to be on Wii, this is it. The Wii remote would make a perfect proton stream emitter, and you could 'throw' the trap with the nunchuck.

Except it in no way could come close to the graphics shown off in the videos. Which would ruin the immersion for me. But I get what you're saying, the controls would be nice.

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 07:16 AM

I used to love the Atari Ghost Busters game.Word. :D

http://www.atariage.com/2600/screenshots/s_Ghostbusters2_1.png

TheSolidHair

01-16-2007, 07:17 AM

Well, the movies were done by Columbia...which is now Sony. Maybe Akroyd and Ramis?

Please 'Oh Lord of Video Games' let them provide voice acting.

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 07:18 AM

Except it in no way could come close to the graphics shown off in the videos. Which would ruin the immersion for me. But I get what you're saying, the controls would be nice.
Graphics mean less to me than actually 'feeling' myself play. Multiplayer would be a blast too.

I can easily give up HD and bump mapping if it means more fun.

TrackZero

01-16-2007, 07:21 AM

Well, the movies were done by Columbia...which is now Sony. Maybe Akroyd and Ramis?

Yeah, I just figured out that Sony can laud this over their heads. They'd never let this hit the 360. What a complete shame.

Gorvi

01-16-2007, 07:21 AM

Graphics mean less to me than actually 'feeling' myself play. Multiplayer would be a blast too.

I can easily give up HD and bump mapping if it means more fun.

Agreed. While not all games would work on the Wii, this is just one that screams Wiimote. On the 360 this could easily end up as just another shooter (because the 360 really needs more of those) but on the Wii it could be something really different.

TrackZero

01-16-2007, 07:22 AM

Graphics mean less to me than actually 'feeling' myself play. Multiplayer would be a blast too.

I can easily give up HD and bump mapping if it means more fun.

You forget that there's no tacticle feedback. You wouldn't be "pulling" ghosts in, since there's no resistance. Which is unfortunate. In this case, the graphical immersion is more important, IMHO (I mean, just watch that video when he's running through the city streets looking up at the skyline, with the sound....goddamn!).

kabutor

01-16-2007, 07:24 AM

Owner of Ghostbusters IP == Sony?

Venkman

01-16-2007, 07:25 AM

If ever there was a game that was supposed to be on Wii, this is it. The Wii remote would make a perfect proton stream emitter, and you could 'throw' the trap with the nunchuck.

Nothing like a game of the future with graphics of the past! I'm glad it is on modern graphics hardware. The chance of multi player (same screen and internet) goes up exponentially when they move it to other systems.

bapenguin

01-16-2007, 07:26 AM

Word. :D

Not that one. This one (http://www.atariguide.com/0/022.htm).

Ozena

01-16-2007, 07:28 AM

Awesome. It is the real deal.

This kicks ass on many levels.

Chalex

01-16-2007, 07:30 AM

I wonder if Sony smells the potential here...

The game has a huge fan base from the Movies/TV show....
Huge internet buzz already....
and they own the rights to the movie....

Why not give them the rights, but have SCE publish it (making it PS3 exclusive) and time the release with a GB 1+2 Blu-Ray release.

It would be like free money.

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 07:37 AM

You forget that there's no tacticle feedback. You wouldn't be "pulling" ghosts in, since there's no resistance. Which is unfortunate. In this case, the graphical immersion is more important, IMHO (I mean, just watch that video when he's running through the city streets looking up at the skyline, with the sound....goddamn!).
Sorry. Have to smack you with the 'duh' bat for this one.

There's no tactile feedback on the 360 either, no way to 'pull' the ghosts to you.

I also love how you take a skyline with SOUND to be the pinacle of graphical prowess above feeling the stream emmitter vibrating and making noises in your hand. Your argument is about as soggy as my pasta.

If you want graphics, watch the goddamn movie, cause it was made in the 80s and still looks better than the 360 version.

Orosco

01-16-2007, 07:39 AM

Looks awesome to me, like Gears of War, but fun.

Your Good Twin

01-16-2007, 07:43 AM

Second the Wii comment. I and a friend also got to jabbering about Ghostbusting on the Wii after playing some Elebits. I think we all realized that throwing the trap with the nunchuk made perfect sense.

BUSTIN' MAKES ME FEEL GOOD!

Hydroeric

01-16-2007, 07:44 AM

Don't care what it comes out on. Please just make it so I can play it.

Dr.Finger

01-16-2007, 07:44 AM

Not that one. This one (http://www.atariguide.com/0/022.htm).That's the one I remember too. Although I think I may have had it for the C64, but that may be senility creeping up on me.

Beelzebud

01-16-2007, 07:45 AM

OMG That actually looks awesome!

Whichever mega-conglomerate that owns the rights to Ghostbusters had better come through and let them finish this game.

Housemixer

01-16-2007, 07:51 AM

That's the one I remember too. Although I think I may have had it for the C64, but that may be senility creeping up on me.

I'm absolutely certain I played that game on the C64, though I had no clue what to do (except catch the ghosts). I somehow never got any more money and after 30mins the stay puft marshmallow man crushed the whole city and the game ended.

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 07:52 AM

I'm absolutely certain I played that game on the C64, though I had no clue what to do (except catch the ghosts). I somehow never got any more money and after 30mins the stay puft marshmallow man crushed the whole city and the game ended.
I used to ROCK that game on the C64. I liked upgrading the car and driving around town scooping up ghosts!

KSmitty

01-16-2007, 08:01 AM

I vote for the Wii, I know it will take away from the graphics, but I feel it would add to gameplay. I mean what are you going to do on 360 push a button to shoot the proton pack, push a button to throw the trap. That would get boring pretty fast. With the Wii you could work the motion sensing in so catching a ghost would be like fishing. You have to give 'em a little slack, follow as they move left,right,up,down. That and the hum of the stream and vibration coming from the Wiimote. It would make a basic game mechanic alot more immersive. Now that I think about it, it would work for the PS3 too, with the sixaxis.

Either way this is a game I would love to see on ANY system, I hope they get to release it and I hope there is much more to the gameplay besides running around, shoot ghost, trap, repeat.

-K

Grimmjow

01-16-2007, 08:14 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Genesis_Ghostbusters.png

:D :D :D

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 08:16 AM

The Ghostbusters IP is indeed held by Columbia Pictures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pictures), which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corporation_shareholders_and_subsidiaries).

So, there goes any hope of a 360 or Wii release. :(

JediSanf

01-16-2007, 08:22 AM

atariv8

01-16-2007, 08:24 AM

C64 Ghostbusters is still the best. Maybe it will be hidden on the new game...

Grimmjow

01-16-2007, 08:26 AM

bhaalchild

01-16-2007, 08:31 AM

If sony does indeed own ghostbusters the only way it will be made is if it is a PS3 only game. Maybe (this is a big maybe) later it could be ported to the 360. If it were to be made for the wii (which I don't think is a big deal for sony as much as it would be if it was made for the 360) it would have to be an entirly different game.

Mdot23

01-16-2007, 08:32 AM

listen...do you smell that?

Venkman

01-16-2007, 08:33 AM

Grimmjow

01-16-2007, 08:35 AM

iono if this was posted b4 but it looks like there making a movie Ghostbusters 3 (http://movies.ign.com/articles/708/708806p1.html) maybe the game will launch whenever that is done.

Chalex

01-16-2007, 08:37 AM

Well, didn't sony actually put out the bond series? Or was that MGM of United artists? I think there may be other people in charge of the GHostbusters IP that do not actually work at the Playstation arm of Sony.

I'm also pretty sure some sony movie properties have made it to multi-console releases.

it may go multi, but I hope it at least gets released.

On April 8, 2005, the company was acquired by a partnership led by Sony and Comcast in association with Texas Pacific Group and Providence Equity Partners. Sony Pictures Entertainment will distribute several MGM/Columbia Pictures co-productions - most notably Casino Royale - but outside of the co-productions MGM is now actively involved in acquiring worldwide film rights and distributing theatrical motion pictures domestically. 20th Century Fox will be handling the international theatrical distribution and worldwide home video distribution of MGM titles.

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Kamalot

01-16-2007, 08:41 AM

I thougfht Sony owned Spider Man, yet the Spider Man games come out on non-Sony platforms...

Nimos

01-16-2007, 08:41 AM

iono if this was posted b4 but it looks like there making a movie Ghostbusters 3 (http://movies.ign.com/articles/708/708806p1.html) maybe the game will launch whenever that is done.

Oh God ! This has failure written all over it... it's a shame how much Ghostbusters 2 sucked. Don't get me wrong, the original Ghostbusters is one of my favourite movies of all time but the sequel was really bad, and now they are making a 3rd one ?

wyeast

01-16-2007, 08:44 AM

I thougfht Sony owned Spider Man, yet the Spider Man games come out on non-Sony platforms...
Yeah, but now more than ever they've gotta be interested in keeping any exclusives they can get.

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 08:46 AM

iono if this was posted b4 but it looks like there making a movie Ghostbusters 3 (http://movies.ign.com/articles/708/708806p1.html) maybe the game will launch whenever that is done.Wow.

"What Danny had originally conceived was sending us to a special-effects hell, a netherworld full of phenomenal visual environments and boiling pits," Ramis revealed. "But what works so well about the first two (films) is the mundane-ness of it all. So my notion was that hell exists in the same place as our consensus reality, but it's like a film shutter. It's the darkness between the 24 frames.

Ramis continued, "So we create a device to do it, and it's in a warehouse in Brooklyn. When we step out of the chamber, it looks just like New York, but it's hell. Everything's grid-locked; no cars are moving and all the drivers are swearing at each other in different foreign languages. No two people speak the same language. It's all the worst things about modern urban life, just magnified."That actually sounds like a pretty cool concept. Here's hoping Ramis can make it work (hint: he probably can).

RorschachCCCLX

01-16-2007, 08:47 AM

"We're making the game; now will someone please let us legally make the game?" Seems like kind of a sketchy way to go about making a game. I do wonder if Bill Murray will allow them to go forward, since he pretty much personally deep sixed a third movie. But then again, he did Garfield and Garfield II -- so obviously he loves money or owes the mob a favor.

It looks like I was half right at least... I don't think anyones ever heard of this developer before.. they sorta sound like the video game version of a garage band. Ghostbusters is a Columbia owned properity, which since the 80's was scooped up for Sony for its Blu-Ray empire. I'm not sure how keen Sony would be to lend a property out to sell on a rival system.
The legal issues reguarding copyrights and more over the likenesses and voices of actors would be extreamly hard. Actors like Harold Ramis and Dan Aykroid might not lend themselves to third rate developer. Tom Cruise has yet to appear in a video game based on one of his movies because he charges so much for the use of his likeness.

I think a ghost buster's game could be awesome, if sqaud based w/ traps, realistic inviroments and the actors who made that movie great.

Kamalot

01-16-2007, 08:53 AM

It looks like I was half right at least... I don't think anyones ever heard of this developer before.. they sorta sound like the video game version of a garage band. Ghostbusters is a Columbia owned properity, which since the 80's was scooped up for Sony for its Blu-Ray empire. I'm not sure how keen Sony would be to lend a property out to sell on a rival system.
So, are you telling me that the PS3 will be home to all of the movie-based games this generation?

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 08:53 AM

I thougfht Sony owned Spider Man, yet the Spider Man games come out on non-Sony platforms...In the case of Spider-Man, the license to make the games was purchased by Activision. They could then put it on any system they wanted to, and they did.

Upon further investigation, it looks as though Activision also put out the C64 Ghostbusters 2 game (http://cheats.ign.com/objects/550/550389.html), so at one point, they owned the Ghostbusters game license. Maybe there's still hope of a multi-system release?

Grimmjow

01-16-2007, 08:56 AM

Wow.

you took the words right out of my mouth but hopefully (Just Hopefully) this can be a better sequel

Mdot23

01-16-2007, 09:12 AM

i thought that sequel confirmed to be in limbo for a long time. i know murray said he didn't want to do it.

Adam Blue

01-16-2007, 09:14 AM

Dracula-X

01-16-2007, 09:19 AM

Man, I loved the c64 version. It had the digitized opening bit ("Ghostbusters! Bwahahahahaaaaa!") which I thought was phenominally cool back then. The SID was so ahead of its time. *memories*

Anyhow, I don't care what console this comes out for (bases covered), as long as it does. I could see this being shitloads of fun on the Wii/Wiimote, but we're not going to get the kind of graphics we're seeing in the demo. Seems the company is aiming for PS3/360 (assuming Sony hasn't the game rights locked up), either of which is fine by me. ;)

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Opty

01-16-2007, 09:23 AM

I personally don't like the look of the game. The Ghostbusters aren't hardened marines in battle armor and a brand new Dodge, they're frumpy scientists who spent all their money on nuclear devices so had to buy a crappy old car and do a job akin to plumbing only with capturing (not destroying/killing) ghosts. Ghostbusters is a comedy, not an action, and a game should follow in that vein.

Ilikecapcom

01-16-2007, 09:31 AM

Yeah, I just figured out that Sony can laud this over their heads. They'd never let this hit the 360. What a complete shame.

Well, they let Spider-man games on other consoles, so there is hope.

Doctor Setebos

01-16-2007, 09:36 AM

i thought that sequel confirmed to be in limbo for a long time. i know murray said he didn't want to do it.According to the IGN article G35TwinTurbo linked above, Ramis is hoping to cast Ben Stiller as a new Ghostbuster. Who knows how the movie will do without Bill Murray, but I trust Ramis to write a fantastic script.

Chalex

01-16-2007, 09:38 AM

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed many times, but Sony Pictures and Sony Computer... are two different beasts, but under the same name. I'm pretty sure they have beef with eachother aswell.

Sony pictures will want their property on a profitable console, and we all know as it looks now(and how actions have decided), it's not too smart a move for 3rd party pubs to make games PS3 exclusives.
Part of the recovery program being championed by Sir Howard Stringer is getting all of the individual parts of Sony to work together for the "greater good."

I just read my post..... it sounds kinda epic :p

Gorvi

01-16-2007, 09:41 AM

Well, they let Spider-man games on other consoles, so there is hope.

Spiderman is a Marvel property, Sony doesn't own any rights there.

Xerxes

01-16-2007, 09:42 AM

Hope this see more of the light of day.

Roc Ingersol

01-16-2007, 09:54 AM

Spiderman is a Marvel property, Sony doesn't own any rights there.
With regards to 'Spiderman, the movie' they certainly do.

Spigot

01-16-2007, 11:11 AM

Not that one. This one (http://www.atariguide.com/0/022.htm).
That game is still one of my all time favourites. I haven't played it for probably 20 years now, but I can remember it like I played it yesterday.

Such a great game. I'd be happy with a cleaned up version of this old chestnut.

MajSheppard

01-16-2007, 11:25 AM

Owner of Ghostbusters IP == Sony?

Yeah, you would think that would matter. It doesn't though.

Sony doesn't know what the other hand is doing and the legal ownership is not in the Games division.

Sony lends the License that Columbia/tristar owns to Zoofly for exchange to a new medium I.E. Video game. Then Zoofly owns that IP for that medium as discribed by the contract with the movie studio NOT SCEA.

They then can get licenses to publish on whatever system they choose.

Example? Bond films are now Sony property, and guess what they are published by EA who puts them wherever they damn well please.

Though when the actual movie comes to be released on HDDVD or BluRay Sony will definately have a say on making you own a Bluray for high def Muray/Ramis hijinks.

Mdot23

01-16-2007, 11:31 AM

According to the IGN article G35TwinTurbo linked above, Ramis is hoping to cast Ben Stiller as a new Ghostbuster. Who knows how the movie will do without Bill Murray, but I trust Ramis to write a fantastic script.

im sure the script would be great, but ghostbusters without murray just isn't ghostbusters to me.

cp#

01-16-2007, 11:52 AM

The Ghosties got DUBS SON!

RorschachCCCLX

01-16-2007, 12:53 PM

Yeah, you would think that would matter. It doesn't though.

Sony doesn't know what the other hand is doing and the legal ownership is not in the Games division.

Sony lends the License that Columbia/tristar owns to Zoofly for exchange to a new medium I.E. Video game. Then Zoofly owns that IP for that medium as discribed by the contract with the movie studio NOT SCEA.

They then can get licenses to publish on whatever system they choose.

Example? Bond films are now Sony property, and guess what they are published by EA who puts them wherever they damn well please.

Though when the actual movie comes to be released on HDDVD or BluRay Sony will definately have a say on making you own a Bluray for high def Muray/Ramis hijinks.

ActiVision now owns the BOND property for games. and I hate it that sony owns MGM now, it means I can't get Casino Royale on HD-DVD :^(

CptTripps

01-16-2007, 03:54 PM

I understand that this feature on a Wii, would be neat. But I think some are making too big a deal, you say sacraficing graphics for fun is acceptable and with that I agree. I just don't see moving my hands adding such an enormous amount of fun that it would be boring on a normal controller.

Is it a cool feature that I would enjoy on a Wii? Yes. Would it make other consoles versions less fun? I highly doubt it.

*Dramatization*
OMG!!! You threw a trap by moving your hand forward!!! I have to throw it by pressing this stupid green A button!!! Now my game experience is completely ruined!!! BILL WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!!?!?

Gimme a break. What a bunch of Wiitards.

flinxz

01-16-2007, 04:42 PM

Who knows how the movie will do without Bill Murray, but I trust Ramis to write a fantastic script.
The script, written by Aykroyd, is said to feature a hell that looks alot like New York City. The Ghostbusters are able to be transported into hell via a portal in a New York warehouse.
Looks like Aykroyd already wrote it.

OrangePulp

01-16-2007, 10:07 PM

Oh God ! This has failure written all over it... it's a shame how much Ghostbusters 2 sucked. Don't get me wrong, the original Ghostbusters is one of my favourite movies of all time but the sequel was really bad, and now they are making a 3rd one ?

I honestly don't understand how you can like the first one, and not like the second one. They're both very similar movies, and they're both great.

On a side note, I hope like hell they don't add Ben "All I can play are neurotic characters" Stiller to the mix. That would ruin the movie for me. Seeing him play the same damn role he always plays in a ghostbuster movie would be horrible.

atariv8

01-17-2007, 10:26 AM

God forbid Murray take a break from the upstanding Garfield movies to make Ghostbusters 3...something tells me if the price is right, he'll come back. Now if it interferes with any plans to make a Life Aquatic 2, screw Ghostbusters.

Kamalot

01-17-2007, 11:11 AM

I honestly don't understand how you can like the first one, and not like the second one. They're both very similar movies, and they're both great.
Uhh. No.

The 2nd movie is an abomination.

LexeL

01-17-2007, 11:16 AM

I'm going to have to agree and say #2 was horrible, damn horrible.

MosBen

01-17-2007, 06:35 PM

He is Vigo! You are like the buzzing of flys to heem!

Spigot

01-17-2007, 06:40 PM

He is Vigo! You are like the buzzing of flys to heem!
I honestly don't know exactly how bad #2 is... why? Because I watched it once when it was out in theatres and have only seen snippets of it since. I have both films on DVD and still haven't bothered to watch the second one. The first one is awesome, but the second just seemed lacklustre TO THE MAX!

I mean, the pink ectoplasm? A walking Statue of Liberty? Feh.

I'll have to watch it again soon (maybe tomorrow whilst I convalesce from this nasty flu/cold thing), just to make sure it's as meh as I remember it.

Xerxes

01-17-2007, 07:01 PM

But 2 had a game controller.... :-)

MosBen

01-17-2007, 07:09 PM

I'll be the first to admit that the first movie is the better film. The plot was just better. The second movie is still plenty funny though.

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