View Full Version : 28 Year Old Mother Dies Trying to get a Wii for her Kids
OldeWolf
01-13-2007, 10:41 PM
From CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html)A woman who competed in a radio station's contest to see how much water she could drink without going to the bathroom died of water intoxication, the coroner's office said Saturday.
Jennifer Strange, 28, was found dead Friday in her suburban Rancho Cordova home hours after taking part in the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest in which KDND 107.9 promised a Nintendo Wii video game system for the winner.
Stuff like this should not be happening....
pseudopseudo
01-13-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm sorry, but there's a prime candidate for a Darwin.
Sad story, though.
Savok
01-13-2007, 10:43 PM
Stupid fucking radio station, think jackasses, THINK.
I was just about to post about this. Sad really... ...and people thought getting shot over a PS3 was bad.
Heretic Machine
01-13-2007, 10:58 PM
"We are awaiting information that will help explain how this tragic event occurred," he said.
You made her drink too much water in a really ill-conceived ratings stunt, tempting her with the offer of her children's happiness. Burn in hell.
goc_sin
01-13-2007, 11:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html :(
SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- A woman who competed in a radio station's contest to see how much water she could drink without going to the bathroom died of water intoxication, the coroner's office said Saturday.
Jennifer Strange, 28, was found dead Friday in her suburban Rancho Cordova home hours after taking part in the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest in which KDND 107.9 promised a Nintendo Wii video game system for the winner.
"She said to one of our supervisors that she was on her way home and her head was hurting her real bad," said Laura Rios, one of Strange's co-workers at Radiological Associates of Sacramento. "She was crying, and that was the last that anyone had heard from her."
It was not immediately known how much water Strange consumed.
A preliminary investigation found evidence "consistent with a water intoxication death," said assistant Coroner Ed Smith.
John Geary, vice president and marketing manager for Entercom Sacramento, the station's owner, said station personnel were stunned when they heard of Strange's death.
"We are awaiting information that will help explain how this tragic event occurred," he said.
Initially, contestants were handed 8-ounce bottles of water to drink every 15 minutes.
"They were small little half-pint bottles, so we thought it was going to be easy," said fellow contestant James Ybarra of Woodland. "They told us if you don't feel like you can do this, don't put your health at risk."
Ybarra said he quit after drinking five bottles. "My bladder couldn't handle it anymore," he added.
After he quit, he said, the remaining contestants, including Strange, were given even bigger bottles to drink.
"I was talking to her and she was a nice lady," Ybarra said. "She was telling me about her family and her three kids and how she was doing it for her kids."
Congrats to the radio station. The problem with the world is that we protect jackasses that darwinism would've killed off a long time ago if not for the protection we offer. At 6.5 billion people, it's time to thin the herd. I mean I understand helping out the sickly, etc. But we need to let stupid die. It's for the best.
I agree with the sentiment but I do not think it applies in this case. Sometimes people do not know their limit until it is too late. When I was a lifeguard we had a 19 year old marine drown. He tried to swim the length of the Olympic size swimming pool underwater. Nothing at stake, no bets or coaxing from friends, yet he stayed under until he sucked in water and drown. This poor lady was motivated more than the marine that drown. She was trying to get a rare product for her children. She had outside motivation (as well as peer pressure) and just pushed it to far without realizing it. This is tragic much more than it is funny.
Heretic Machine
01-13-2007, 11:12 PM
Already posted.
Tricky Thumb
01-13-2007, 11:13 PM
Nintendo, we not only love gamers but we advocate Darwinism.
It had been posted (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23815).
Draft
01-13-2007, 11:13 PM
I'm sorry, but there's a prime candidate for a Darwin.
Sad story, though.A mom cannot be Darwined.
pseudopseudo
01-13-2007, 11:15 PM
A mom cannot be Darwined.
They can't? Sorry, it's been awhile since I've brushed up on the rules.
Heretic Machine
01-13-2007, 11:19 PM
Nintendo, we not only love gamers but we advocate Darwinism.
Wasn't funny the first time a jack-ass posted it, and it isn't funny now. Go fuck yourself.
Tricky Thumb
01-13-2007, 11:22 PM
Wasn't funny the first time a jack-ass posted it, and it isn't funny now. Go fuck yourself.
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
Heretic Machine
01-13-2007, 11:25 PM
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
A mother died trying to get a toy for her children. How is that funny? How is that even close to being funny? Grow a fucking soul. I'm sick of this "I'm a dick on the internet, hahaha," bullshit.
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
In this case it really isn't. Grow a sense of compassion.
Savok
01-13-2007, 11:31 PM
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
Shove it dicklick, this isn't some moron breaking into a gun store and shooting himself.
If a parent doesn't at least have a bit of a blindspot for their kids, they shouldn't be parents.
ldi222
01-13-2007, 11:45 PM
That's one of the saddest things Ive ever read.
Sazime
01-13-2007, 11:49 PM
Gah, this is the second time this has happened around here. What a stupid contest. Give them 2 liters, and leave it at that. You don't need to push things into the intoxication range. The radio station should have had more sense, as well as the contestants.
askheaves
01-13-2007, 11:55 PM
Yeah, this is pretty brutal. Most people don't know that you can drink so much water that your brain actually swells in size and you die. Not something that occurs to most people. May as well have had a tequila drinking contest.
Ultima Thulian
01-13-2007, 11:57 PM
Well, first off, she drank tons of water and she was supposed to not use the bathroom. And for what? Greed. Gotta get my spoiled brat a piece of electronics and plastic that plays games! That's totally worth risking the well being of my body over! Dumbass. Commericialistic greed + stupidity is what killed her. No one's fault but her's. Thankfully, Darwinism was there to dropkick this bitch in the throat.
Deadend
01-14-2007, 12:04 AM
I am a bit confused on the timetable of all this. Did she lose, pee, then die? Or what? As from what I can tell, there was a contest... then she called someone from her car crying and died.
The lengths people will go for $250 of electronics is kinda sad... I mean, to have that much willpower to overcome every bit of your body saying "this is baaad" is kinda impressive.
Ultima 13: Brutal
How did Darwin get into a person dieing from drinking to much water? It's like putting salt in chocolate.
Hapless
01-14-2007, 12:06 AM
I loled. But hey, maybe her kids will get a good settlement check from the radio station.
nonchalance
01-14-2007, 12:13 AM
Ultima 13: You're a soulless piece of shit.
The Darwins are for people who think Cruise Control means "The car drives itself", not people who don't know that drinking water can kill you. Go fuck yourself.
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 12:16 AM
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
If you're curious, I'm the "jackass" that perigon is talking about. And don't mind him, he's always like this. He had a fit when some WoW players had an imaginery funeral in the game in a PvP zone and somebody raided them.
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 12:17 AM
Ultima 13: You're a soulless piece of shit.
The Darwins are for people who think Cruise Control means "The car drives itself", not people who don't know that drinking water can kill you. Go fuck yourself.
Consider myself fucked.
Ultima 13 needs to be thinned from the evil avatar herd.
Abash Alarmist
01-14-2007, 12:20 AM
If you're curious, I'm the "jackass" that perigon is talking about. And don't mind him, he's always like this. He had a fit when some WoW players had an imaginery funeral in the game in a PvP zone and somebody raided them.
As did I. Even now, it was still dick and so is any comment trying to make this into a bad, heartless joke.
Ultima 13 needs to be thinned from the evil avatar herd.
Naw, he just needs to be less human. :)
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Look people. I'm not going to feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the kids, joking aside, definitely. But it wasn't the contest or even her chugging water that was "Darwin" worthy, it was the fact that she'd risk her own well being for a piece of plastic hardware. Commericialistic greed + stupidity bears such results. It sucks, but tragic it is not. If I'm an asshole (which I am, both on the intertubes and in life) for pointing that out, then so be it. And joking aside, the radio show should've had more sense as well. Expect a lawsuit (and deservedly so) from the mom's family.
Sazime
01-14-2007, 12:29 AM
Look people. I'm not going to feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the kids, joking aside, definitely. But it wasn't the contest or even her chugging water that was "Darwin" worthy, it was the fact that she'd risk her own well being for a piece of plastic hardware. Commericialistic greed + stupidity bears such results. It sucks, but tragic it is not. If I'm an asshole (which I am, both on the intertubes and in life) for pointing that out, then so be it. And joking aside, the radio show should've had more sense as well. Expect a lawsuit (and deservedly so) from the mom's family.
The most horrible thing about this is that most people have no idea that this is dangerous. That's what makes it so tragic. I'd be willing to be that if you took a random poll, a lot of people (~50%) would think there was no problem with it.
the_evil_sword_girl
01-14-2007, 12:33 AM
Look people. I'm not going to feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the kids, joking aside, definitely. But it wasn't the contest or even her chugging water that was "Darwin" worthy, it was the fact that she'd risk her own well being for a piece of plastic hardware. Commericialistic greed + stupidity bears such results. It sucks, but tragic it is not. If I'm an asshole (which I am, both on the intertubes and in life) for pointing that out, then so be it. And joking aside, the radio show should've had more sense as well. Expect a lawsuit (and deservedly so) from the mom's family.
I do feel sorry for the woman. I feel even worse for the kids. Imagine how horrid they're gonna feel when they realise their mum died just so they could have a entertainment console... a whole life in exchange for a bit of plastic. Ultima, you do have a point... about her being idiotic enough to pariticipate in it for the piece of hardware... but I don't think the woman realised the risk she was taking. I sure didn't know about water toxication. Heck, I don't like those radio stations that host these sorta stupid things. They think stupid crap like that is funny... but they don't understand how potentially dangerous it is (if people can die... I mean, c'mon! Don't host such stuff unless you know what could happen!). :mad:
TrackZero
01-14-2007, 12:38 AM
Darwinism aside. The radio station should get the fuck sued out of them.
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 12:38 AM
If you're curious, I'm the "jackass" that perigon is talking about. And don't mind him, he's always like this. He had a fit when some WoW players had an imaginery funeral in the game in a PvP zone and somebody raided them.
Yes I did. Because I'm a decent human being, apparently one of the few who ever decide to poke their nose into the internet. I'll stick by what I've always said: If you do something online that you'd be afraid to do in real life, then you're being a dickhead, go fuck yourself. Would you go to a graveyard and mock people having a funeral? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. Would you say some stupid shit like this to her children? Or hell, on TV? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. That is because you're being an inhuman dick, and you know it.
goc_sin
01-14-2007, 12:40 AM
Already posted.
Doh.. didn't see it. Mod's terminate this post! :o
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 12:43 AM
I do feel sorry for the woman. I feel even worse for the kids. Imagine how horrid they're gonna feel when they realise their mum died just so they could have a entertainment console... a whole life in exchange for a bit of plastic. Ultima, you do have a point... about her being idiotic enough to pariticipate in it for the piece of hardware... but I don't think the woman realised the risk she was taking. I sure didn't know about water toxication. Heck, I don't like those radio stations that host these sorta stupid things. They think stupid crap like that is funny... but they don't understand how potentially dangerous it is (if people can die... I mean, c'mon! Don't host such stuff unless you know what could happen!). :mad:
I can understand the water intoxication, but everyone knows you can only put so much of anything into your body. Surely she knew at the very least it would be unhealthy or risky. And again, all of this for a piece of plastic hardware. Sensationaly commericialistic greed. Gotta get the hot hot item for my kids...it's ridiculous. I mean, you see stuff like this in America all the time. People getting shot for PS3s, people getting beat up for Furby's, etc etc etc etc. I can only feel so much remorse before I just quit caring. I'll admit to being cold and heartless at times, and I was definitely so this time. The whole thing is stupid. The accidental death, the radio station, the sensationlal commericialization, all of it. And now the kids have no mom. For what? A wii. This whole thing was a sad joke before I even posted.
Camel
01-14-2007, 12:46 AM
First thing I thought is that she must have had some sort of medical condition or something (or maybe she was really she was really short and skinny or something, I don't know) that caused her to be affected more by drinking so much water. I mean, I don't see stories about whoever won the contest dying or anything like that. I think people are being a bit too harsh, as well. I know full well that a person can only consume so much water before they die from it, but if someone told me that a contest was being held where you had to see how much you could drink before you had to pee, the last thing I'd think would be that someone would die from it. Maybe that someone would piss themselves, but not die. For that reason, I really don't think "she put her life at risk for a piece of plastic" is a fair analysis. If it were a "See how long you can hold onto this branch overlooking a cliff" contest, or a "How many punches can you take to the face?" contest, then it would be ridicule-worthy. Drinking water? Nah. Just a sad accident, that's all.
captainstrombosis
01-14-2007, 12:51 AM
It seems some of you have missed something. Mothers cannot be awarded a Darwin...
They have already passed on their genetic code to the next generation. Seems like some of you are a bit on the slow side aswell. :D
blackzc
01-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Yes I did. Because I'm a decent human being, apparently one of the few who ever decide to poke their nose into the internet. I'll stick by what I've always said: If you do something online that you'd be afraid to do in real life, then you're being a dickhead, go fuck yourself. Would you go to a graveyard and mock people having a funeral? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. Would you say some stupid shit like this to her children? Or hell, on TV? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. That is because you're being an inhuman dick, and you know it.
Fuck it dude, these sacks of shit have power in numbers, And they will continue to do so until life gives them an actual bad day, then they will get it.
So whoever thinks this shit is funny, when your parents die in a car wreck or of cancer,stoke,ect,ect (and it will happen) just remember, its funny though!!
Actually bump this thread when it happens so we can all tell you how they got owned by darwin and such. Its all good. :)
I'm not a parent but I can say that more than anything I'd want my future kids to be happy. This woman didn't die to get a Wii, it was just a pathway to see her kids happy. It sucks that it turned out like this.
Kefkataran
01-14-2007, 12:57 AM
This is just a terrible, sad story on all levels. Yes, the mother was at fault, and so was the station, but in the end what matters is that someone is dead and a child is without their mom for something so ridiculously stupid. Ugh.
Suicidal ShiZuru
01-14-2007, 12:57 AM
Lets just hope she had good life insurance so the kids can get a PS3 instead.
Savok
01-14-2007, 12:58 AM
Look people. I'm not going to feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the kids, joking aside, definitely. But it wasn't the contest or even her chugging water that was "Darwin" worthy, it was the fact that she'd risk her own well being for a piece of plastic hardware. Commericialistic greed + stupidity bears such results. It sucks, but tragic it is not. If I'm an asshole (which I am, both on the intertubes and in life) for pointing that out, then so be it. And joking aside, the radio show should've had more sense as well. Expect a lawsuit (and deservedly so) from the mom's family.
Where the hell did this communist shit come from? She wanted to do something for her kids, jesus.
And for christ sake, most people think it's like drinking too much alcohol or eating too much food, you'd just vomit it back up.
Kefkataran
01-14-2007, 12:59 AM
Threads merged. Perigon, blackzc, and Savok are all-around decent folk.
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 01:02 AM
Yes I did. Because I'm a decent human being, apparently one of the few who ever decide to poke their nose into the internet. I'll stick by what I've always said: If you do something online that you'd be afraid to do in real life, then you're being a dickhead, go fuck yourself. Would you go to a graveyard and mock people having a funeral? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. Would you say some stupid shit like this to her children? Or hell, on TV? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. That is because you're being an inhuman dick, and you know it.
First off, in reality, that "WoW Funeral" was likely bullshit. The whole thing reeked of attention whoring. Why hold a "funeral" for your "dead" friend in a spot that you know you'd get attacked. And what's more, they taped it and posted it on the internet, all with dramatic music. It was a paradoy of itself, and the whole thing was BS. So yeah, I'll laugh at that. And it was in a game. In a PvP zone. Imaginery. Not real. Big difference from a real funeral with real people outside a PvP zone. As for me being a dick, you're right. And yes, if someone asked me to be straight up on thoughts about it on TV, I'd say the whole thing was dumb and she shouldn't have risked her life for a piece of fucking plastic. I feel sorry for the kids, and I wouldn't say the stuff I did to them. They're kids, I don't expect them to understand basic things. I do expect radio stations holidng contests and people who enter them to know the risks involved though. Sucks if they don't.
Dirty Harry
01-14-2007, 01:03 AM
I was just about to post about this. Sad really... ...and people thought getting shot over a PS3 was bad.
Finally, take that you WIILOVERS.
AversionFX
01-14-2007, 01:25 AM
Sad but incredibly stupid. Anyone willing to do something incredibly stupid deserves the consequences of said action.
I feel for the kids she left behind.
Food Nipple
01-14-2007, 02:06 AM
I have very little sympathy for the true Darwin award winners, but this poor woman isn't one of them. Drinking a lot of water is not the same as swinging from a live power line over a pool or being hung from a ceiling fan by the coathanger menageire of porn you wear around the house. Save your awards for the people that actually deserve it, a working mother of three who died from entering an embarssing radio contest to get her kids the toy she shouldn't afford deserves your fucking sympathy.
Tricky Thumb
01-14-2007, 02:30 AM
It's much easier to fall in line, pretend you care and say "Oh how sad!" than to express the most basic conclusion any reasonable logical person would think of, idiocy. She didn't have somebody shove the water down her throat, hold a gun to her head and keep her from peeing until she died days later. No, she made that choice for herself and it was incredibly stupid.
So, you'd better be damn sure I'd give my opinion in public to any adult who gave enough of a damn to ask me. Children however are not adults and nobody with half a mind would expect them to care or understand anything more than the fact that their mother was gone.
Edit: I'm not sure why people think consuming massive amounts of ANYTHING is safe. Vitamins, food, alcohol, water, you name it and consuming too much of it in one sitting can be deadly. How is water any different? Water is not NOTHING.
bKangy
01-14-2007, 02:43 AM
It wasn't a good idea, but the radio station is at fault... If you offer someone a big lump of gold, especially relevant to their children, they WILL do whatever it takes to get that lump of gold. You can't blame someone for trying to give their kids the best possible life, and overdoing it.
Slack3r78
01-14-2007, 02:45 AM
Edit: I'm not sure why people think consuming massive amounts of ANYTHING is safe. Vitamins, food, alcohol, water, you name it and consuming too much of it in one sitting can be deadly. How is water any different? Water is not NOTHING.
I'm sure you're totally aware of the LD50 of every substance you consume, too.
Xerxes
01-14-2007, 03:06 AM
I honestly didn't know too much water could kill. Probably because I didn't think such a thing existed. More to the point I never figured such a line could be crossed. I mean once you done drinking it's over. Excess of water is just sad.
Mojopin
01-14-2007, 03:08 AM
To people who say Darwin this and Natural Selection that: You are very, very ignorant. Maybe if you would have learned more about biology and the physiological process, you would not make such ill informed idiotic statements about another human beings death attempting to make yourself feel better about your own pathetic life and hence “lashing” out on the internet. =) Cupcake?
Pain would have determined that she drank too much water, and the stomach doesn't generate the signal that your stomach is full but maybe once every 5 mins or so, and even then you still eat too much. How many times have we all "eaten too much", huh stupid animals? =)
She probably didn't even know you could DIE from drinking too much water, she thought as everyone else does, that her body would warn her. She took in too much water too fast thus her stomach did not tell her in time something was wrong. Even then water flushes from the stomach really fast she would have to rely on other messages from her body to pick up that something was very, very wrong. She did right after leaving the station, hence the crying and the headache.
AversionFX
01-14-2007, 03:57 AM
I'm sure you're totally aware of the LD50 of every substance you consume, too.
Common sense dictates you do not drink as much water as you can, as fast as you can, without going to the bathroom.
But hey, I guess people have differing thresholds of common sense.
Oblivion
01-14-2007, 04:21 AM
That's metal.
Tricky Thumb
01-14-2007, 04:30 AM
Here, lets take a quick little excerpt from the article.
"They were small little half-pint bottles, so we thought it was going to be easy," said fellow contestant James Ybarra of Woodland. "They told us if you don't feel like you can do this, don't put your health at risk."
You can spin it any way you like, but consuming copious amounts of anything is obviously not safe. So no, it's not about being mean to feel good about myself, sirs. It's about calling stupid, dumb shit out. If I die by taking a shot of compressed air up my ass on a 200 dollar bet, feel free to make all sorts of fun out of me. I'd damn-fucking-deserve it.
As for supposedly trying to make myself feel better by posting my honest opinion? I bet you felt pretty happy with yourself after making that little post of yours, Mojopin. Oh, yeah! I'm sure that view is great up there in your big-words-tower! Can you see my house from way up there? I bet you can!
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 04:36 AM
Here, lets take a quick little excerpt from the article.
You can spin it any way you like, but consuming copious amounts of anything is obviously not safe. So no, it's not about being mean to feel good about myself, sirs. It's about calling stupid, dumb shit out. If I die by taking a shot of compressed air up my ass on a 200 dollar bet, feel free to make all sorts of fun out of me. I'd damn-fucking-deserve it.
As for supposedly trying to make myself feel better by posting my honest opinion? I bet you felt pretty happy with yourself after making that little post of yours, Mojopin. Oh, yeah! I'm sure that view is great up there in your big-words-tower! Can you see my house from way up there? I bet you can!
I'm not going to argue with you anymore. You're a moron, and I hope you die in a fire. I'd prefer a whole world of Jennifer Stranges than one where you exist at all.
Achilles
01-14-2007, 04:37 AM
Very sad. Most people don’t know that drinking too much water can kill them as askheaves mentioned. Most people also wouldn’t think that a contest could be put forward that would kill them if they did well enough in it. The radio station/show/host should be sued and destroyed. If it wasn’t her that ended up dead it would have been one of the other contestants, or more than one.
people have differing thresholds of common sense.
I used to work with people with disabilities, one of whom died from drinking too much water. Staff had been told to monitor his intake, but he got around that, with tragic consequences. He did it to get high.
I am not remotely suggesting that she was enjoying herself when she decided to keep drinking, but it would not necessarily have been painful for her in the way you might expect. She clearly had no experience with this sort of thing and just assumed that (Grandpa Simpson's kidneys aside) it would not be dangerous. Her judgement could well have been impaired by other factors than what Ultima would call "greed".
I agree with those who are saying the kids should sue the radio station. Encouraging somebody to engage in behaviour you acknowledge is risky without fully exploring that risk or explaining it to them is deeply irresponsible. The station would surely be publicising any detailed warnings they'd given, so I'm betting "don't do it if it feels bad" was as far as they went. From the VP's statement, it doesn't sound like anyone had checked the medical consequences of the contest. I woulda thought the kids've got a reasonable case, especially given past results.
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 04:47 AM
Well, first off, she drank tons of water and she was supposed to not use the bathroom. And for what? Greed. Gotta get my spoiled brat a piece of electronics and plastic that plays games! That's totally worth risking the well being of my body over! Dumbass. Commericialistic greed + stupidity is what killed her. No one's fault but her's. Thankfully, Darwinism was there to dropkick this bitch in the throat.
Darwin - 1
Dumb bitch - 0
You should seriously get the worst form of cancer and die a horrible death , you stupid fuck you.
Tricky Thumb
01-14-2007, 04:48 AM
I'm not going to argue with you anymore. You're a moron, and I hope you die in a fire. I'd prefer a whole world of Jennifer Stranges than one where you exist at all.
Jesus-titty-fucking-christ, man. What god died and gave you the Almighty Hammer of Judgment? It's okay Perigon, I'll take solace in the fact that people like me have always and will always rule the world. That's right, you're surrounded by assholes, sir.
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 04:51 AM
Look people. I'm not going to feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the kids, joking aside, definitely. But it wasn't the contest or even her chugging water that was "Darwin" worthy, it was the fact that she'd risk her own well being for a piece of plastic hardware. Commericialistic greed + stupidity bears such results. It sucks, but tragic it is not. If I'm an asshole (which I am, both on the intertubes and in life) for pointing that out, then so be it. And joking aside, the radio show should've had more sense as well. Expect a lawsuit (and deservedly so) from the mom's family.
Its drinking water dude , a lot of people don't know that can be harmful..the worst thing this woman thought would happen was that she would maybe piss herself and have to run to the bathroom. The Howard Stern show ran the same contest but just for money some months back. No one died , but it SEEMS just like a harmless stunt if you don't know a lot about the human body and how it works. You act as if she took shots of paint thinner just so she could win a toy..
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 04:52 AM
Yes I did. Because I'm a decent human being, apparently one of the few who ever decide to poke their nose into the internet. I'll stick by what I've always said: If you do something online that you'd be afraid to do in real life, then you're being a dickhead, go fuck yourself. Would you go to a graveyard and mock people having a funeral? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. Would you say some stupid shit like this to her children? Or hell, on TV? No, because you'd get the shit beat out of you. That is because you're being an inhuman dick, and you know it.
QFT my friend
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 04:58 AM
Here, lets take a quick little excerpt from the article.
You can spin it any way you like, but consuming copious amounts of anything is obviously not safe. So no, it's not about being mean to feel good about myself, sirs. It's about calling stupid, dumb shit out. If I die by taking a shot of compressed air up my ass on a 200 dollar bet, feel free to make all sorts of fun out of me. I'd damn-fucking-deserve it.
As for supposedly trying to make myself feel better by posting my honest opinion? I bet you felt pretty happy with yourself after making that little post of yours, Mojopin. Oh, yeah! I'm sure that view is great up there in your big-words-tower! Can you see my house from way up there? I bet you can!
Of course he can see your house , your house is the one that is always visited by those short yellow buses.
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 05:01 AM
Jesus-titty-fucking-christ, man. What god died and gave you the Almighty Hammer of Judgment? It's okay Perigon, I'll take solace in the fact that people like me have always and will always rule the world. That's right, you're surrounded by assholes, sir.
Only on the internet is he surrounded by assholes , because most if not all of you assholes would never speak like this in public due to the ass beating you would recieve. And the ones who say they would speak like this in public , knowing full well they would be ridiculed if not outright assaulted , are not any smarter then the woman who tried to win the Wii right?
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 05:07 AM
You should seriously get the worst form of cancer and die a horrible death , you stupid fuck you.
I am actually sorry I said this to you , I don't wish cancer on anyone in real life and don't really mean it here. I just find people who think like you do as revolting. I read other comments from you in normal game conversations and they are somewhat entertaining. Maybe you should stick to those threads in the future or maybe I should stick to those threads..ya I will go with the latter of the 2 choices.
Mojopin
01-14-2007, 05:19 AM
As for supposedly trying to make myself feel better by posting my honest opinion?
Honest opinion? You gave a knee-jerk response like many do on the internet, just as you did with my post. ;) That first paragraph was mostly meant to be tongue-in-cheek if you didn't notice... cupcake? :p
The point is, many people do stupid things, that doesn't make everyone stupid. This woman had a few pressures on her to get a gift for the people she loves most in this world and wants to see happy, her children. If you don't have children then you have NO fucking idea what that feels like. Children, to many caring parents, become the center of a their life. You want more than anything to see them smile and be happy. She just wasn't using sound judgment, didn't see the danger, and went overboard. People posting mindless statements regarding her intelligence need to think a bit more before blasting their little misinformed "opinions" so quickly based on what little information they have actually put together when constructing this scenario. Tis' all I'm saying, toodles...
It seems some of you have missed something. Mothers cannot be awarded a Darwin...
They have already passed on their genetic code to the next generation. Seems like some of you are a bit on the slow side aswell. :D
The Darwin joke is old and lame as it is. It makes me want to claw my eyes out when people apply it to parents, of three no less.
Folks, if you don't understand a joke, don't use it.
Ravana
01-14-2007, 06:03 AM
water terrible way to die.
I hope her kid gets compensaturation.
Tricky Thumb
01-14-2007, 06:06 AM
The Darwin joke is old and lame as it is. It makes me want to claw my eyes out when people apply it to parents, of three no less.
Folks, if you don't understand a joke, don't use it.
Yes, I most definitely was not thinking on the Darwin post. Doesn't make the whole thing any less stupid, though.
This has been an entertaining thread, I'll say that much though. I especially love the parts when all those people who are better than the rest of the world start wishing cancer on people. Oh, or the whole inflammatory insults, wishing for people to burst into flames and then vanish from existence. How inspired.
SunTzu
01-14-2007, 06:10 AM
This is kinda depressing. A couple of kids lost their mom because a Radio Station was too cheap to set up a "Safe" contest.
"So I was thinkin' we could have 'em eat hot dogs-"
"TOO EXPENSIVE! Just make them drink alot of water!"
"But too much water will kill you, won't it?"
"Don't be an idiot, it's just water, lawl"
Imma go listen to some Linkin Park now ;_;
water terrible way to die.
I hope her kid gets compensaturation.
wow. making darwin jokes about this woman is horrible, but punning about her... that's like double extra super evil. with sprinkles.
and much funnier.
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 06:14 AM
Yes, I most definitely was not thinking on the Darwin post. Doesn't make the whole thing any less stupid, though.
This has been an entertaining thread, I'll say that much though. I especially love the parts when all those people who are better than the rest of the world start wishing cancer on people. Oh, or the whole inflammatory insults, wishing for people to burst into flames and then vanish from existence. How inspired.
Do you honestly think that people like you make the world a better place? We'd be much better off without you.
bstiff
01-14-2007, 06:34 AM
Jesus-titty-fucking-christ, man. What god died and gave you the Almighty Hammer of Judgment? It's okay Perigon, I'll take solace in the fact that people like me have always and will always rule the world. That's right, you're surrounded by assholes, sir.
From your mother's basement maybe
Marco555
01-14-2007, 06:35 AM
Did she win the contest ??
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 06:42 AM
Gentlemen: Warm up your lawyers, this will be a LeMans style start.
Rirath
01-14-2007, 06:43 AM
Tricky, Utima 13, you're wasting your time. A bunch of people in this thread either 1) want to look concerned and caring and are looking for a "bad guy" to shun, or 2) are being carebears and thusly reject your opinion right off. Either way, you're playing into their roles.
Frankly, you have a point. Most people just can't bring themselves to say it. That WoW funeral? Dumbest freaking thing in ages and I would have been laughing myself silly to be there when it got raided. Don't hold it in a freaking PvP zone! Most people can't bring themselves to look at these things objectionably. They'd much rather just say "You're mean!" and move on. It comforts them, and it makes them feel superior.
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid." Stuff happens folks. You didn't know you could die from too much water? Learn a lesson today. Also consider a little something about contests and what it's worth going through to get something for nothing.
Threads merged. Perigon, blackzc, and Savok are all-around decent folk.
Please don't encourage them.
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 06:49 AM
Tricky, Utima 13, you're wasting your time. A bunch of people in this thread either 1) want to look concerned and caring and are looking for a "bad guy" to shun, or 2) are being carebears and thusly reject your opinion right off. Either way, you're playing into their roles.
Frankly, you have a point. Most people just can't bring themselves to say it. That WoW funeral? Dumbest freaking thing in ages and I would have been laughing myself silly to be there when it got raided. Don't hold it in a freaking PvP zone! Most people can't bring themselves to look at these things objectionably. They'd much rather just say "You're mean!" and move on. It comforts them, and it makes them feel superior.
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid."
Please don't encourage them.
Yes, maybe we're all trying to seem nice. Or, maybe we're all decent people who don't like dumbshits like you fucking up the internet with your lame-ass emo crap. "Stupid people deserve to die, lolz." Grow the fuck up, this shit should of stopped being funny before you even got out of High School.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 06:53 AM
Seems to me, genuinely decent people don't need to hammer their decent'ness onto others on the internet, of all places. Heck, I'll bet the trully super-decent are in church right now. I cant wait till the afterlife so i can look up some of these bleeding hearts' stats, to see that yes they have/will indeed kicked dogs and punched babies whilst posting such drivel.
Most people don't realize that consuming 2 liters of water (approx. half a gallon) in a short time, can already be lethal. So, in this case it clearly was the responsibility of the radio network to to first investigate the health risks of such a contest.Ahh but this is America. Stick to 8 glasses a day, people.
BrokenSymmetry
01-14-2007, 06:55 AM
Most people don't realize that consuming 2 liters of water (approx. half a gallon) in a short time, can already be lethal. So, in this case it clearly was the responsibility of the radio network to to first investigate the health risks of such a contest.
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 06:57 AM
Seems me, genuinely decent people don't need to hammer their decent'ness onto others on the internet, of all places. Heck, I'll bet the trully super-decent are in church right now.
You don't have to be religious to know that a mother of three dieing is not something you make fun of, especially when she died trying to do something nice for her kids who were likely more underprivileged than the prep school dick heads infesting this topic. If you find this shit funny, you must lead a really sheltered life. Must be nice never having a bad day, never having someone you know die, being able to dick around on the internet making fun of people who are supposedly less intelligent than you. Ya, you guys must be geniuses, must be nice.
HotCod
01-14-2007, 06:59 AM
Ah the joys of all the people saying "fuck that dumb bitch she got fucking Darwined" if you can't understand the irony then thats even better becuse its just proves that not only are you an asshole your a dumb asshole... If you think she was stupid from drinking to much water then fine becuse yes it wasn't smart but even if she knew drinking to much water could be harmful i very much dout she knew just how much and proably presumed the health warnings where about burst bladers and not water being toxic either way it was proably about as dumb as i don't know getting in a car with out putting on a seat belt... given that no one else died then there may have been other factors at work... but yes fine, carry on, you can shout Darwin and dumb bitch all you like if it makes you feel better about your self
Johan
01-14-2007, 07:01 AM
Yes, maybe we're all trying to seem nice. Or, maybe we're all decent people who don't like dumbshits like you fucking up the internet with your lame-ass emo crap. "Stupid people deserve to die, lolz." Grow the fuck up, this shit should of stopped being funny before you even got out of High School.
Seems to me, genuinely decent people don't need to hammer their decent'ness onto others on the internet, of all places. Heck, I'll bet the trully super-decent are in church right now. I cant wait till the afterlife so i can look up some of these bleeding hearts' stats, to see that yes they have/will indeed kicked dogs and punched babies whilst posting such drivel.
Ha ha...mother of three dies. How funny. :rolleyes:
Perigon is right. Moralizing aside, fuck ANY of YOU if you think it's funny when a mother dies trying to do something special for her kids.
Stupid bastards. Crawl out from behind your goddamn computer screen and realize that there's more to the world than just your goddamn kicks and giggles.
This thread really takes the cake. The only purpose it really serves is to reveal who has a fucking brick for a heart and brain.
Sykus
01-14-2007, 07:01 AM
As for supposedly trying to make myself feel better by posting my honest opinion? I bet you felt pretty happy with yourself after making that little post of yours, Mojopin. Oh, yeah! I'm sure that view is great up there in your big-words-tower! Can you see my house from way up there? I bet you can!
Hey, look!
He's not just a worthless piece of shit, he's an ignorant worthless piece of shit.
You think making fun of smart people makes you look better? Let me let you in on a little secret, and I'll try to use small words so you can understand - I'm sorry, comprehend... I'm sorry, so it will make sense to you.
When you make fun of smart people, you let people know how stupid you really are. It does not make you look superior! ("Superior" means "better than someone else"). Instead, it exposes ("exposes" means "reveals") what a fucking idiot you really are.
And to all the dipshits here who think the woman got what she had coming?
I'll feel the same way when you die in a car crash. The woman had kids. Period.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 07:07 AM
You don't have to be religious to know that a mother of three dieing is not something you make fun of, especially when she died trying to do something nice for her kids who were likely more underprivileged than the prep school dick heads infesting this topic. If you find this shit funny, you must lead a really sheltered life. Must be nice never having a bad day, never having someone you know die, being able to dick around on the internet making fun of people who are supposedly less intelligent than you. Ya, you guys must be geniuses, must be nice.Underprivileged?
http://www.homes.com/Real_Estate/CA/City/RANCHO%20CORDOVA
Sir, you also make assumptions on what I find humorous. I never once posted that i did. I was merely pointing out that making fun of someone's senseless death while indelicate, high browed net-moralizing to those who do, is more perverse. Dying, btw.
Dirty Harry
01-14-2007, 07:08 AM
Well now the Wii is gonna start selling like hotcakes, sony tried to up the ante with the shooting but Nintendo has completely dominated this round of advertisements. They may even have to put a disclosure on their comercials to advertise that using the product may induce death or coma.
NACIONAL
01-14-2007, 07:10 AM
I'm really sorry for her.
About water intoxication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication). The station should know better... even when there was Some cases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication#Notorious_cases_of_water_intoxi cation) of this situation publicly discussed.
SunTzu
01-14-2007, 07:12 AM
You know, I hate to say it, but I'm actually dissapointed with these forums for the first time. Since I started lurking here, I've come to expect at least some maturity from the users here. But good god, I would have never expected to see so many children desperately trying to seem so "Cold" here.
Seriously, I know the bad guys in Bond movies might seem really Cold, and you may think you're fooling people into thinking you're "Deep" when you pretend to be that way yourself. But you're only fooling yourselves, really. Many of us can see right through your charade, and kinda pitty you.
And no, we're not "Weaker" than you because we actually care for our fellow man. In fact, it is you who are "Weaker" than us, because you're so concerned with how other people think of you that you're willing to go against your basic human nature, in addition to refusing to acknowledge your own feelings, in order to impress others with how callous you have become.
Get some help before you become a mere shadow of a human being. And no, being a "mere shadow of a human being" is not cool either.
NACIONAL
01-14-2007, 07:17 AM
You know, I hate to say it, but I'm actually dissapointed with these forums for the first time. Since I started lurking here, I've come to expect at least some maturity from the users here.
are you new here?
Just kidding... I'm felling the same way. I still have trust for this forums, specially because i can count the dickheads with the fingers of my hands (and maybe some fingers of my feet).
There are still a lot of mature posters around here. This is a thread that i like to call "outside the standard deviation..."
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 07:30 AM
Tricky, Utima 13, you're wasting your time. A bunch of people in this thread either 1) want to look concerned and caring and are looking for a "bad guy" to shun, or 2) are being carebears and thusly reject your opinion right off. Either way, you're playing into their roles.
Frankly, you have a point. Most people just can't bring themselves to say it. That WoW funeral? Dumbest freaking thing in ages and I would have been laughing myself silly to be there when it got raided. Don't hold it in a freaking PvP zone! Most people can't bring themselves to look at these things objectionably. They'd much rather just say "You're mean!" and move on. It comforts them, and it makes them feel superior.
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid." Stuff happens folks. You didn't know you could die from too much water? Learn a lesson today. Also consider a little something about contests and what it's worth going through to get something for nothing.
Thanks, I appreciate that, especially coming from you. You understand my disposition better than most here and I got respect for you. That being said, my darwin jokes were perhaps a little harsh (and if you want to get overly technical, somewhat inaccurate). I don't feel different, and I still find the whole thing stupid. And that's what it is, absolutely stupid. But perhaps my comments went too far. I don't feel any different, but I should chill. I'm gonna delete my less "calm" posts, if for nothing else to help chill things a bit. It seems I rattled some cages. I'll admit that my jokes were a bit much, I'll man up to that. But stupid is stupid, and risking yourself over a piece of plastic is quite stupid.
GodFather
01-14-2007, 07:32 AM
And to top it off KDND 107.9 told the kids of the deceased mother that there was another person who held their pee longer and won the wii. A local newspaper asked the kids on their thoughts of the radio station's statement to them and only replied with 2 words, "Piss Off"
RorschachCCCLX
01-14-2007, 07:38 AM
A mother died trying to get a toy for her children. How is that funny? How is that even close to being funny? Grow a fucking soul. I'm sick of this "I'm a dick on the internet, hahaha," bullshit.
Yeah seriously, if you need an excuse to shed your humanity, join the army. People's death are real events, this isn't some game. her kids are now without a mom for the rest of their lives because she wanted to do something nice for them.
mkelehan
01-14-2007, 07:43 AM
I'm 100% of the thought that the radio station should be held accountable.
SunTzu
01-14-2007, 07:46 AM
I'm 100% of the thought that the radio station should be held accountable.
Absolutely, those kids should sue them into the dust, and the people who organized the event should be charged with Reckless Endangerment.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 07:47 AM
I'm 100% of the thought that the radio station should be held accountable.No kidding. Im sure the growing line of ambuance chasers calling on the survivors are saying the same thing.
Draft
01-14-2007, 07:52 AM
They can't? Sorry, it's been awhile since I've brushed up on the rules.The entire point of the Darwin Award is that the individual in question removed themselves from the gene pool. A mother has, by definition, already done her genetic duty and left some of that DNA for future generations to enjoy.
First off, in reality, that "WoW Funeral" was likely bullshit. The whole thing reeked of attention whoring. Why hold a "funeral" for your "dead" friend in a spot that you know you'd get attacked. And what's more, they taped it and posted it on the internet, all with dramatic music.
The RAIDERS taped it, duh. Then posted it various places including youtube where funeral goers raged in the comments.
Mojopin
01-14-2007, 07:54 AM
....and risking yourself over a piece of plastic is quite stupid.
You just don't get it do you... have some kids, then think about it. If you do have kids, then think about that look that they get on their face when they receive a toy that they have been talking about for weeks. The happiness in their eyes and the wonder when they start playing and interacting with it. She just wanted her children to be happy...
I also doubt that the station informed the contestants that they could actually DIE from drinking too much water and not know that they did until it was too late.... or better yet, they could have used fucking hotdogs. Kinda messes up the whole Wii/wee joke though eh... :rolleyes:
Ravana
01-14-2007, 07:57 AM
I'm 100% of the thought that the radio station should be held accountable.
The Radio station is probably already in legal hot water over this, If the station hasn't already settled and bought each kid a Wii, I imagine a judge will faucet to.
Kind of doubt buying each kid a Wii would get them out of this.
Sue that station please...
And what is up with some posters trying to make fun of this? There isn't even a slight hint of comedy in this situation.
It is very easy to die from too much water. It happens alot when people want to do home-bowel-flushing (it's true!). This is done under supervision with educated instructors. The problem is getting enough salt and the water flushes these out. You need to keep the body in balance while doing it. And the symptoms are not easy to spot or act upon, as you only feel woozy/faint and die within a short time after this. You need a speedy diagnose.
claws
01-14-2007, 08:13 AM
It is very easy to die from too much water.
It's not at all easy. You have to try very hard to die from too much water, which is why it doesn't happen very often. Most people will heed the warning signs and stop drinking.
It happens alot when people want to do home-bowel-flushing (it's true!). This is done under supervision with educated instructors.
The insane things some people do ... I can't think of any good reason for doing that (and plenty for not doing it) :D
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 08:14 AM
Home-bowel-flushing?! Dear God.
Varsity
01-14-2007, 08:15 AM
Perhaps it's the same station? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2657469.stm)
sol740
01-14-2007, 08:21 AM
Internet + Anonymity = Asshole.
Its a common formula ...
They'll say things they wouldn't say in actual life, and then make some rediculous justification for it with comments like ...
"Stupid ________ should've known something that they didn't ! LOLZ !"
OR
"If they would've just been as smart as I am, then this wouldn't have happened. What an idiot ! They deserved it ! LMAO !"
Ofcourse they all make these comments without knowing all of the details, its all hackwork, and guessing. Yes, the woman must have known that drinking too much water could be LETHAL, thats why she did it ... HA, what a moron ? Right ? Wrong ... its entirely too obvious that she was unaware that water intoxification even existed. Honestly the only reason I knew that water intoxification exists is because I played sports growing up, but I still didn't find out water could KILL you till I was on Varsity.
Even I can find humor in most of the Darwin cases, but I see ".... guy drowning in a pile of elephant shit ... ", a little different than "Mother of three dies trying to do something nice for her kids".
I'm a little late to the party but I have this to say:
Fuck all of you who thought this was just hilarious.
Ditto on just about everything that Perigon and other's said about people being assholes on the internet. If its not a comment you would make to the poor woman's family, why would you make it here? It is pathetic that your actions change dramatically when you are free of fear of reprisal for your words.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 08:25 AM
Sorry to point out the obvious: If she wanted to do something nice (and responsible) for her kids perhaps she could've just bought one for them? Hello?
TurboKinny
01-14-2007, 08:27 AM
Perhaps it's the same station? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2657469.stm)
(it's not the same station- That one is in Alabama, the one in the OP is in California)
But seriously, WTF?? Do these radio stations have nobody checking into safety hazards for their contests?
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 08:30 AM
(it's not the same station- That one is in Alabama, the one in the OP is in California)
But seriously, WTF?? Do these radio stations have nobody checking into safety hazards for their contests?
Nope, apparently not. Personally, I stopped listening to the radio all together because of this shit. Not because of safety hazards, but just because I don't want to hear about some stupid contest while I'm in the car. Play some music, and tell your DJ to STFU.
Oh, and this is the second Wii-related radio contest that has gone wrong. The other one had something to do with people chasing a van.
Tricky, Utima 13, you're wasting your time. A bunch of people in this thread either 1) want to look concerned and caring and are looking for a "bad guy" to shun, or 2) are being carebears and thusly reject your opinion right off. Either way, you're playing into their roles.
Instead of pretending to be concerned or being a carebear, I am being a human being. Just because I am on the internet does not mean I have to be a dick every time I read something tragic. Some things are funny. This is not one of them.
claws
01-14-2007, 08:39 AM
What's with this constant "trying to do something nice for her kids" angle? Her intentions are totally irrelevant ; if she was trying to win the Wii so she could smash it up in front of everyone, would she be off your sympathy list?
Trolling aside, I'm not sure what my opinion is on this. The radio station almost certainly had no idea of the risk either ; perhaps out of all the hundreds of stupid radio competitions that take place, this one just ended in a tragic accident.
Sorry to point out the obvious: If she wanted to do something nice (and responsible) for her kids perhaps she could've just bought one for them? Hello?
While I obviously don't know her financial situation, not everyone can afford the Wii. Yeah, it's cheap relative to the competition, but you have to be on the over privileged side of the spectrum (nothing wrong with that) to think anyone and everyone can afford a Wii.
The radio station almost certainly had no idea of the risk either ;
They should have. Seems kind of obvious to me that corporations should research the risk of stunts they pull. Especially when it involves the direct participation of the public.
Arphahat
01-14-2007, 08:41 AM
This is tragic. It is a very sad event. What's worse is that it was completely avoidable and senseless.
That said, I'd like to address two things I've seen in this thread.
1) She cannot be "Darwinned" unless all her children die, too.
2) Those who are being assholes are likely doing it as a defense mechanism. If you let every bad thing you read on the internet get to you, you'll be suicidal real quick. If you point and laugh, you don't need to think about the reality of the situation. Does that make it OK? Dunno, but I tend to brush off the "Darwin" remarks as simply being this.
As an aside, I kind of laugh at how Opie and Anthony got fired for their sex in a church bit. The masses are to stupid to dictate anything, but unfortunately they get their say anyways. Democracy is doomed to failure, but I digress ;).
And now I expect the Darwin monkeys to threadjack this into an anti-O&A thread. Hopefully this preempts it?
claws
01-14-2007, 08:51 AM
They should have. Seems kind of obvious to me that corporations should research the risk of stunts they pull. Especially when it involves the direct participation of the public.
Of course, but it's just possible that whoever they researched this with didn't know the risk of over-consumption either. Maybe they thought 'she'll pee herself, it'll be funny!'. Organising a chainsaw-juggling competitions would be clearly negligent, but I can see how something like this might seem like innocent fun, which is why I lean towards thinking 'accident' rather than 'idiots, sue them into space'.
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 08:53 AM
Let's re-analyze this a bit...
The story that I read was worded to make it seem like she drank a Keg-sized container of water in under 5 minutes. To be honest I don't know if that is what she did, but the gist of the story was how stupid she was. Is there any information available about this?
If - and I do mean if - that is what she did, then yes. It was a very, very foolish thing for her to do (even if it was done out of love and to benefit her kids). The radio station should be held liable, even if only partially.
However, if that isn't what she did, then I don't know what to think. I am in the camp that her death - or any accidental death - is a tragedy. But I think we're all getting too worked up with this story without knowing any details.
Again, her death was tragic. I just want to know if it could have been averted with common sense.
For the record, I do not think that it is common sense to know that you could die from drinking too much water - I certainly didn't know that. I use the phrase common sense in regards to drinking a keg of water in under 5 minutes.
Uhh, they obvious course of action would be to ask a medical doctor. I think there's about a 100% chance even the worst doctor would give them the correct answer.
Asking Barney the janitor is not exactly the proper course of action. Asking the wrong person is not an excuse, it's even worse than asking no one.
mulligan
01-14-2007, 08:57 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040319h.jpg
wyeast
01-14-2007, 08:58 AM
Underprivileged?
http://www.homes.com/Real_Estate/CA/City/RANCHO%20CORDOVA
The point I got from this link is that she could either be living in a $500k house... or a $190k house. Which for Sacramento, those prices are slums, aren't they? I mean, just across the river in Carmichael homes are easily twice as much on the same site.
In either case, plenty of people put ridiculous amounts of shit into their body for sport, and nobody ponders the ramifications. There are eating contests all the time. I'd have to imagine a gazillion hotdogs is more lethal to you than goddamn water. Plenty of 20-somethings in colleges all around the globe dump assloads of various alcoholic concoctions into their system without regard. Years ago I myself participated in a contest to see who could drink the most Dr. Pepper. Who the hell knew the Pepper could kill you? It ain't Tequila. It's Dr. Pepper. :eek:
Is it her fault for not stopping when she felt like shit? Sure. But plenty of parents push themselves for the sake of their children. Is it the station's fault for not looking into the potential outcome of this stunt? Fucking straight.
Goddamn, now I'm gonna be bummed the rest of the day.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 08:58 AM
While I obviously don't know her financial situation, not everyone can afford the Wii. Yeah, it's cheap relative to the competition, but you have to be on the over privileged side of the spectrum (nothing wrong with that) to think anyone and everyone can afford a Wii.Good point. Never bothered to think death was justifiable when avoiding credit card debt, in the land of radio stunts and E-Z credit.
Varsity
01-14-2007, 08:59 AM
Honestly the only reason I knew that water intoxification exists is because I played sports growing up, but I still didn't find out water could KILL you till I was on Varsity.
Stop confusing me. :( I wish I'd looked this name up before I started using it!
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 09:01 AM
My point is, it wasn't an ALL YOU CAN DRINK contest, right? So, to determine how sad or foolish this might have been, we need to know how much water was asked to be consumed.
A keg = extremely idiotic
5 gallons = harmful but can get away with it
1 gallon = relatively harmless
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 09:02 AM
Honestly the only reason I knew that water intoxification exists is because I played sports growing up, but I still didn't find out water could KILL you till I was on Varsity.
Stop confusing me. :( I wish I'd looked this name up before I started using it!*LOL !* Classic.
Captain Awesome
01-14-2007, 09:09 AM
Remember the fraternity that had one of their guys do the same thing?
You'd think being in college, they would have known about H2O poisoning.
Schnoogs
01-14-2007, 09:11 AM
if you need an excuse to shed your humanity, join the army..
Those are fighting words asshole :mad:
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 09:11 AM
All I remember was the wig and the near constant spankings, and yes the thing with the water.
claws
01-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Uhh, they obvious course of action would be to ask a medical doctor. I think there's about a 100% chance even the worst doctor would give them the correct answer.
You must know better doctors than I do. But that's not the point - I'm saying there was perhaps no *perception* that this could be dangerous. Imagine if a few years ago you'd have held a peanut eating competition, before 'nut allergies' were more widely known about. Yeah, a doctor might have been able to tell you there was a potential risk, but I can see how most people might have considered the risks and thought 'this is completely safe'. All I'm saying is we need more facts before shouting 'sue, sue', and I withhold any judgement until then.
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 09:17 AM
MORE INFO (http://www.news10.net/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=23350)
According to contest participants, 17 to 20 contestants took part in the competition in a room at KDND's Madison Avenue studios. The contest broadcast during The End's Morning Rave program began around 6:15 a.m. as contestants were each handed eight-ounce bottles of water to drink every 15 minutes.
Fellow contestant James Ybarra of Woodland said he met Strange at the event and had no idea of the potential danger of water poisoning. "They were small little half-pint bottle so we thought it was going to be easy," Ybarra said. "They told us if you don't feel like you can do this, don't put your health in risk."
But after 90 minutes of drinking, Ybarra decided he had had enough. "I tapped (out) after five (bottles)," Ybarra said. "My bladder couldn't handle it anymore."
Ybarra said after he quit, the remaining contestents were given even larger bottles to drink to stay in the competition. Strange was still in the contest when he opted out.
"I was talking to her and she was a nice lady," Ybarra said. "She was telling me about her family and her three kids and how she was doing it for kids."
Ybarra said before the contest, he did not read a liability waiver form handed to him by station personnel before signing it. Ybarra said he was surprised by the physical toll he felt after the contest.
"I was kind of out of it yesterday. I was just drained. I was just going to the bathroom," Ybarra said. "I wasn't feeling well and I actually fell asleep. I woke up with a headache (Saturday) morning and then took a couple of aspirins."
Ybarra said he was unaware of any medical personnel on hand to monitor the contest.
In a brief written statement issued Saturday, Entercom Sacramento VP and market manager John Geary expressed sympathy for Strange's family.
"We were stunned when we heard the news," Geary said. "We are awaiting information that will help explain how this tragic event occurred."
"They should have had a physician there, some type of statement or as to this can kill you. You can die from this," Strange's friend and co-worker Tracy Beam said. "People have died from this before and here we are. We don't have our Jennifer."
"I believe everyone should just be fired and let go from that radio station," Beam said. "It should be the end of The End."
Hmmmm.... some interesting things to take away from this:
1) Jennifer worked at a medical office
2) They were handed some sort of waiver
3) They offered larger sizes of water after a period of time
Regarding #1: It might have been prudent to ask someone at her work if this contest was dangerous. Doesn't resolve the radio station of blame, but would have been good to do. While I wouldn't have known that drinking water could kill someone, she was in a good atmosphere to find out.
Regarding #2: Waiver could have been generic and doesn't absolve the radio station. It really depends on what the waiver says. However being that there was no doctor on hand for what is essentially a body bloating contest the radio station was at least acting carelessly, if not, responsible in full. Curious to know if the waiver said anything about water intoxication.
Regarding #3: If the radio station kept the contest to the small 8-ounce bottles, they might have been fine, but it depends what size bottles they switched to after 90 minutes to determine their culpability.
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 09:18 AM
Yes, I most definitely was not thinking on the Darwin post. Doesn't make the whole thing any less stupid, though.
This has been an entertaining thread, I'll say that much though. I especially love the parts when all those people who are better than the rest of the world start wishing cancer on people. Oh, or the whole inflammatory insults, wishing for people to burst into flames and then vanish from existence. How inspired.
Yes your right , the rest of us should just shut up in meek acceptance whilst the morons of the world spout off all sorts of mean spirited shit to their hearts content. If it was your mother who tried to do something for you and she died because of it trust me you wouldn't be on the internet being so glib about it. In fact you would want to kill anyone who suggested even in jest that she deserved it and its good for the human race that she is no longer among us. So STFU.
Captain Awesome
01-14-2007, 09:18 AM
You must know better doctors than I do. But that's not the point - I'm saying there was perhaps no *perception* that this could be dangerous. Imagine if a few years ago you'd have held a peanut eating competition, before 'nut allergies' were more widely known about. Yeah, a doctor might have been able to tell you there was a potential risk, but I can see how most people might have considered the risks and thought 'this is completely safe'. All I'm saying is we need more facts before shouting 'sue, sue', and I withhold any judgement until then.
While I agree. Getting H2O poisoning also takes a lot of work. I'd like to know how fast she was drinking and how much per serving. You really have to almost drown yourself to get this kind of poisoning. I found out about H2O poisoning when I was playing Pop Warner football.
I thought my coach was fucking with us when an uncle of mine confirmed it to be true. We heard about cases here and there. And sadly, not many people really know about it.
Kamalot
01-14-2007, 09:19 AM
This is absolutely tragic. I can't even begin to think about how sad this really is.
Why would a radio station run such a stupid contest? Why not ask their contestants to see how many cigarettes they can smoke...
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 09:21 AM
Tricky, Utima 13, you're wasting your time. A bunch of people in this thread either 1) want to look concerned and caring and are looking for a "bad guy" to shun, or 2) are being carebears and thusly reject your opinion right off. Either way, you're playing into their roles.
Frankly, you have a point. Most people just can't bring themselves to say it. That WoW funeral? Dumbest freaking thing in ages and I would have been laughing myself silly to be there when it got raided. Don't hold it in a freaking PvP zone! Most people can't bring themselves to look at these things objectionably. They'd much rather just say "You're mean!" and move on. It comforts them, and it makes them feel superior.
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid." Stuff happens folks. You didn't know you could die from too much water? Learn a lesson today. Also consider a little something about contests and what it's worth going through to get something for nothing.
Please don't encourage them.
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid." Stuff happens folks. You didn't know you could die from too much water? Learn a lesson today. Also consider a little something about contests and what it's worth going through to get something for nothing. - Some Imbecile
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 09:21 AM
MORE INFO (http://www.news10.net/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=23350)
Hmmmm.... some interesting things to take away from this:
1) Jennifer worked at a medical office
2) They were handed some sort of waiver
3) They offered larger sizes of water after a period of time
Regarding #1: It might have been prudent to ask someone at her work if this contest was dangerous. Doesn't resolve the radio station of blame, but would have been good to do.
Regarding #2: Waiver could have been generic and doesn't absolve the radio station
Regarding #3: Idiotic.
So they were handed waivers? Should've known. That throws the ignorance plea out the window. It's still wrong though, I'd like to see the radio station get the shit sued out of them. Suing still possible, sure, but with waivers it makes it tougher.
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 09:25 AM
Sorry, I shouldn't have re-edited my post:
Regarding #1: It might have been prudent to ask someone at her work if this contest was dangerous. Doesn't resolve the radio station of blame, but would have been good to do. While I wouldn't have known that drinking water could kill someone, she was in a good atmosphere to find out.
Regarding #2: Waiver could have been generic and doesn't absolve the radio station. It really depends on what the waiver says. However being that there was no doctor on hand for what is essentially a body bloating contest the radio station was at least acting carelessly, if not, responsible in full. Curious to know if the waiver said anything about water intoxication.
Regarding #3: If the radio station kept the contest to the small 8-ounce bottles, they might have been fine, but it depends what size bottles they switched to after 90 minutes to determine their culpability.
Captain Awesome
01-14-2007, 09:26 AM
So they were handed waivers? Should've known. That throws the ignorance plea out the window. It's still wrong though, I'd like to see the radio station get the shit sued out of them. Suing still possible, sure, but with waivers it makes it tougher.
That waiver also sounds like its riddled with tons of holes. They could have a strong case if they do decide to go to court with it.
Regarding #2: Waiver could have been generic and doesn't absolve the radio station. It really depends on what the waiver says. However being that there was no doctor on hand for what is essentially a body bloating contest the radio station was at least acting carelessly, if not, responsible in full. Curious to know if the waiver said anything about water intoxication.
Yeah, that's what i'd like to know too. But we won't find out.
Good point. Never bothered to think death was justifiable when avoiding credit card debt, in the land of radio stunts and E-Z credit.
Kind of doubt she knew the options, as both you and I know. My point remains.
You must know better doctors than I do. But that's not the point - I'm saying there was perhaps no *perception* that this could be dangerous
Well I'm no doctor and I knew it could be fatal. While I don't know the specifics of it in the least, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with flushing all the sodium from your body. I don't think it's quite as obscure as you're thinking and I'm confident that any doctor would know it's a risk that could affect everyone. And the perception of risk from a radio employee is jack, they should get a consultation on pretty much everything.
Unlike allergies, that onus is on the contestant. Different ball of wax.
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 09:29 AM
I've done some stupid things in my life, as we all have from time to time, but at least I can look back on them and say: "Wow, that was pretty freaking stupid." Stuff happens folks. You didn't know you could die from too much water? Learn a lesson today. Also consider a little something about contests and what it's worth going through to get something for nothing. - Some Imbecile
That particular statement isn't cruel. I'll admit that I was probably too harsh, I should probably be more compassionate. I'll admit I got a problem with that. As for what Rirath said, it's a good attitude to have. When people do something like this, try to learn from it. Live and learn. The whole thing is stupid and it sucks, but I'd like to think we'd all be better off learning something as well. And Rirath is good dude, you just didn't catch him right, that's all. I'll admit to being too cold at times, a problem that I need to rectify, but Rirath is really caring, believe it or not. He just doesn't show it.
PXG 360
01-14-2007, 09:39 AM
Her intentions were good, but lets face it, what she did was fucking stupid. And yes, this DOES deserve a Darwin...
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 09:42 AM
Her intentions were good, but lets face it, what she did was fucking stupid. And yes, this DOES deserve a Darwin...
I don't think we have enough information to determine that unless you know something we dont. If she died from drinking 2 gallons of water she deserves a Darwin?
Her intentions were good, but lets face it, what she did was fucking stupid. And yes, this DOES deserve a Darwin...
I suggest you study what a "Darwin" is before you throw it around. Hell you don't even need to leave this thread!!!
/still clawing my eyes out
sol740
01-14-2007, 09:52 AM
Stop confusing me. :( I wish I'd looked this name up before I started using it!
LMAO. My bad ... I will know better from here on ...
Captain Awesome
01-14-2007, 09:53 AM
I suggest you study what a "Darwin" is before you throw it around. Hell you don't even need to leave this thread!!!
/still clawing my eyes out
Heh yeah, that insult has definitely lost its meaning due to its improper use. ;)
torrefaction
01-14-2007, 09:55 AM
Jesus, I'm a huge asshole, and regularly laugh at people's deaths. But you people mocking this lady are complete dicks. She went on a radio contest so her kids could have a gaming console. She didn't go bungee jumping. She drank water. Yeah, she could've been smarter about it...but the RADIO STATION is who should've done the research.
All of you mocking this are acting like a bunch of pricks.
JayK47
01-14-2007, 09:59 AM
Forget Darwin Award. How about Internet White Knight Award? I don't even know how anybody can keep a deadly amount of water down. Wouldn't you barf first? I imagine in order to win you would need to nearly burst your bladder. So yeah, you'd have to be a retard to even hold or enter such a contest. I'm sure if said person who died was a man, we would all agree how retarded this person is. But, a woman? Oh no, lets defend her honor. And the Internet White Knight award goes too...
When you engorge on water you don't barf like food or alcohol. That's why it's so easy (relatively) to die of water poisoning versus food/alcohol poisoning.
And on the people complaining about the people mocking: stop crying you babies. People will act like asses on the internet, you know why? Because it gets them attention. Whining about them only emboldens them, so if someone spews retard all over the page, just ignore them.
Rirath
01-14-2007, 10:12 AM
That particular statement isn't cruel. I'll admit that I was probably too harsh, I should probably be more compassionate. I'll admit I got a problem with that.
I think the difference is that unlike all these people here so far, I'm really, really hard to offend. I can laugh at the worst of life, and I don't feel any worse off for it. In fact, it keeps me relatively stress free. I've been through some really hard things in my life, as we all have, and learning to take a step back is what has kept me going.
The only difference is perhaps that you show it by making a joke. There is nothing wrong with that, and you shouldn't believe these people when they say otherwise. I can say to myself "I know what he means", while most people in this thread won't even begin to try. It's easier for them to call you, me, and everyone else who doesn't fall inline heartless bastards, morons, and/or pathetic basement dwelling losers.
Remember, it's not OK to have your own thoughts on things, but it's perfectly fine to insult and ridicule everyone who disagrees with you. Try offending a Christian or Christian group. I'm Christian myself, and you may be amazed how vicious they can get. Folks are acting like you sent her kids a year's supply of bottled water or something. :rolleyes:
And Rirath is good dude, you just didn't catch him right, that's all. I'll admit to being too cold at times, a problem that I need to rectify, but Rirath is really caring, believe it or not. He just doesn't show it.
I do what I can for people, when I can... and sometimes even when I really can't. That's how I believe helping others should be. "Warm fuzzy thoughts" are nice sometimes, but really get jack done in the long run. Especially on a thread on the Internet. It's real life actions that usually matter.
Though I really like the EvAv community, I honestly don't care less what people think of me. If I think something is right, I don't care how many people I offend doing it. I'm willing to be the "bad guy" when needed. And in this case, I think a whole thread jumping all over you and Tricky is just plain pathetic.
You folks want to prove how compassionate and such better human beings you are? Learn to disagree, and for Pete's sakes, learn to stop taking things at face value. You might be amazed at how much easier life becomes when you can see past your own nose.
Folks are acting like you sent her kids a year's supply of bottled water or something. :rolleyes:
Is it wrong that I did lol at that?
Nice post Rirath.
Ultima Thulian
01-14-2007, 10:16 AM
I think the difference is that unlike all these people here so far, I'm really, really hard to offend. I can laugh at the worst of life, and I don't feel any worse off for it. In fact, it keeps me relatively stress free. I've been through some really hard things in my life, as we all have, and learning to take a step back is what has kept me going.
The only difference is perhaps that you show it by making a joke. There is nothing wrong with that, and you shouldn't believe these people when they say otherwise. I can say to myself "I know what he means", while most people in this thread won't even begin to try. It's easier for them to call you, me, and everyone else who doesn't fall inline heartless bastards, morons, and/or pathetic basement dwelling losers.
Remember, it's not OK to have your own thoughts on things, but it's perfectly fine to insult and ridicule everyone who disagrees with you. Try offending a Christian or Christian group. I'm Christian myself, and you may be amazed how vicious they can get. Folks are acting like you sent her kids a year's supply of bottled water or something. :rolleyes:
I do what I can for people, when I can... and sometimes even when I really can't. That's how I believe helping others should be. "Warm fuzzy thoughts" are nice sometimes, but really get jack done in the long run. Especially on a thread on the Internet. It's real life actions that usually matter.
Though I really like the EvAv community, I honestly don't care less what people think of me. If I think something is right, I don't care how many people I offend doing it. And in this case, I think a whole thread jumping all over you and Tricky is just plain pathetic.
You folks want to prove how compassionate and such better human beings you are? Learn to disagree, and for Pete's sakes, learn to stop taking things at face value.
I really appreciate that. That's exactly how I am and exactly how I feel. Sometimes, I swear you're my clone. :D Thanks for the support, but even I'll admit that I was too harsh, but my reasoning is fine. Live and learn, right? :)
x999x
01-14-2007, 10:17 AM
From CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html)
Stuff like this should not be happening....
This just in:
The original contest to be held by the radio station in question was originally "Hold Your Breath for Meth!" however they ran into legal issues with the FCC and opted for their backup plan, "Hold Your Wee for Wii" instead...
More as it develops...
Perigon is right. Moralizing aside, fuck ANY of YOU if you think it's funny when a mother dies trying to do something special for her kids.
Stupid bastards. Crawl out from behind your goddamn computer screen and realize that there's more to the world than just your goddamn kicks and giggles.
QFT. QFMFT.
Captain Awesome
01-14-2007, 10:22 AM
This just in:
The original contest to be held by the radio station in question was originally "Hold Your Breath for Meth!" however they ran into legal issues with the FCC and opted for their backup plan, "Hold Your Wee for Wii" instead...
More as it develops...
You guys aren't even trying anymore. :rolleyes:
bean19
01-14-2007, 10:22 AM
Just imagine those poor kids when they get older and start dating.
"Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that your mother past away when you were little. How did it happen?"
That's really sad.
Whenever I hear stories that are really sad, I get through them by relying on being really, really shallow. Basically, I just assume that the person or people who died were all really fat or otherwise ugly. Then I don't feel bad for them. I'm so kidding as most of you will be able to tell. I thought it might give other people with a dark sense of humor a chuckle - except the fatties.
BabyJesus
01-14-2007, 10:25 AM
Sorry, she was stupid for doing it... It sucks for her kids/family. But its as much her fault as it is the radio station. I know before I'd do any endurance test like that I'd do some research... And she said her head was killing her, perhaps that should have told her to go see a doctor. I'm not trying to act like an asshole, I just think she was a bit on the daft side..
x999x
01-14-2007, 10:27 AM
It's early and I just woke up, sorry. I posted the first thing that popped into my head...
On a side note, I'd really be impressed if Ninty pulled a class act and paid tribute to the unfortunate mother who died trying to win a Wii. I don't know what they could do that would be in good taste, but I know decorating the viewing area to look like a water level in mario is definitely not a good idea.
antoniogaud
01-14-2007, 10:31 AM
If Nintendo does/says anything it implies that they were connected to the event and that isn't a good thing for them.
hell_on_toast
01-14-2007, 10:46 AM
What's sad is that it was most likely given no thought. Two radio execs sitting around one day;
"Dude, wii sounds like wee, we should make people try to not take a piss to win one"
"Dude, great idea"
Then nobody researched if it was healthy to follow through with it, they just slap a generic 'potentially harmful' sticker on it, and the contestents are none the wiser because hey, a radio show wouldn't create a contest that could kill people, would it?
I'm surprised no one else was harmed in this stunt
hell_on_toast
01-14-2007, 11:02 AM
I do what I can for people, when I can... and sometimes even when I really can't. That's how I believe helping others should be. "Warm fuzzy thoughts" are nice sometimes, but really get jack done in the long run. Especially on a thread on the Internet. It's real life actions that usually matter.
If i'm honest I think your arguments somewhat flawed, I mean, this is an internet discussion board; people post things, people comment on them. You seem to think that by commenting on this story, every poster is vowing to take action and help people. We're not, we're merely expressing our opinions one way or another, this is where our 'relationship' with the story and the people involved with it ends.
On a side note, in terms of internet people doing 'real life actions', 2 words, "childs play"
You folks want to prove how compassionate and such better human beings you are? Learn to disagree, and for Pete's sakes, learn to stop taking things at face value. You might be amazed at how much easier life becomes when you can see past your own nose.
Then you go and make this sweeping generalisation that insults pretty much everyone on the board apart from you. Again you assume that we cannot think for ourselves and rely on some unseen force for our opinions, but not only that! We poor souls are so short sighted that we cannot see past our own nose! How dare you say such things, you don't know me or 99% of the people that post here, who the hell do you think you are to tell me that my opinions and knowledge are restricted severly by ignorance?
Careful on that high horse, it's a long way down.
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 11:31 AM
She was just trying to do something for her kids? Fuck that. It's a 250 dollar piece of hardware, not a Cray. While you people are arguing over whether she deserves your internet respects another few hundred people have died playing with matches and paint thinner, running with scissors, and other stupid shit. Happens every day, and this one is no more deserving of the kind of forum pity you people love to share than any of the others.
Want to crack a joke? Go ahead. Want to mope and sulk over her family? Fine. But don't act like this is some kind of national tragedy that can't be attributed to everyday stupidity. Nothing posted on this forum will ever reach that family. None of your forum mourning, none of the funnies. Humor is how we emotionally distance ourselves from the pains and horrors of life. Far be it from me to rip on someone for exercising humanity's most powerful mechanism for dealing with sorrow.
Loganrapp
01-14-2007, 11:33 AM
Jesus, I'm a huge asshole, and regularly laugh at people's deaths. But you people mocking this lady are complete dicks. She went on a radio contest so her kids could have a gaming console. She didn't go bungee jumping. She drank water. Yeah, she could've been smarter about it...but the RADIO STATION is who should've done the research.
All of you mocking this are acting like a bunch of pricks.
Quoted for truth.
BlackPete
01-14-2007, 11:33 AM
Water intoxication? Damn that's a brutal way to die.
And damn that's equally brutal for the kids. It's a gorgeous day outside and I'm heading out for a walk soon -- but I can't help be aware that that's something that the kids won't be able to appreciate for a LONG time because of some lame ass stunt.
Anyone who actually laughs at this deserves to be raked over the coals. There is NOTHING to laugh at over this.
Xenkylm
01-14-2007, 12:00 PM
Oh please, it is funny. Grow a fucking sense of humor, you high-horse riding ass.
If you have to tell people you're funny, you aren't.
Goronmon
01-14-2007, 12:17 PM
Jesus-titty-fucking-christ, man. What god died and gave you the Almighty Hammer of Judgment? It's okay Perigon, I'll take solace in the fact that people like me have always and will always rule the world. That's right, you're surrounded by assholes, sir.Hey, at least you admit your an asshole. Go fuck yourself.
deathfan
01-14-2007, 12:23 PM
Pretty tragic and sad.
And what an eye opener to how many soulless, fucking cunt prick shitfuckers there are here.
Bastards.
Goronmon
01-14-2007, 12:31 PM
You folks want to prove how compassionate and such better human beings you are? Learn to disagree, and for Pete's sakes, learn to stop taking things at face value. You might be amazed at how much easier life becomes when you can see past your own nose.Oh yeah, I apologize for not thinking that saying the woman deserved to die was humorous. Man, I am so shallow and ignorant. Thanks for showing me the light man.
On a more serious note, I'm hoping you don't actually believe that pile of shit you just posted.
Kefkataran
01-14-2007, 12:34 PM
Please don't encourage them.
Just showing my appreciation for people who aren't being complete assholes in light of tragic news like this. Personally, I don't find people dying funny. Everyone can make jokes if they want; that's fine. But I'm going to actually respect the people who don't.
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Oh yeah, I apologize for not thinking that saying the woman deserved to die was humorous. Man, I am so shallow and ignorant. Thanks for showing me the light man.
On a more serious note, I'm hoping you don't actually believe that pile of shit you just posted.
He means every word of it , he has stress in his life so the way he combats it is to act like a complete asshat on the internet..much like him I don't give a crap what anyone on a website thinks of me..but that doesn't mean I will resort to making fun of or looking down my nose at what happened to some unfortunate woman.
Dracula-X
01-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Graduating from the Howard Stern School of Toilet Humor, I can find all sorts of stupid things to be funny.
This isn't one of them.
I'm even astonished to see claims of greediness (implying sefishness) being made - WTF? She was doing it for her kids! On my planet that's called "selfless".
dena miscreant
01-14-2007, 12:56 PM
As did I. Even now, it was still dick and so is any comment trying to make this into a bad, heartless joke.
Yea, at first I was pretty pissed about it to. But, there's a good chance the guy who passed would've probably liked it better the way it panned out, I've come to think.
Still a dick move on those who planned it, though.
This is really not funny. Just because she didn't know what could happen to her doesn't make her stupid. It makes her a tad ignorant and nothing more.
laggerific
01-14-2007, 01:03 PM
I would think that with all the talk about the dangers of Ecstasy that this would be more common knowledge...
That totally sucks, though. I certainly don't think that the radio station needed to push it that far...they should be sued to a drastic degree.
Orosco
01-14-2007, 01:03 PM
This is a sad story, I feel sorry for her kids. As for the "hur hur hur, she's dumb" crowd, go fuck each other and die in a house fire. Slowly.
ilian
01-14-2007, 01:31 PM
Sad Story..
Extremely far cry from a Darwin Award, bizarre to equate it this way.
Most people dont know what water intoxication is, so I cant really blame the contestants, but not a SINGLE PERSON at the radio station had ever heard of it? They didnt even think to run a single Google search to see if their contest might be dangerous?
I mean if they even fed the contestants smart water or gatorade or something instead, this might have been avoided, and it would only have taken 30 seconds to find this info on the internet.
Disgustipated
01-14-2007, 01:32 PM
Man, the radio station is so fucked. Their lawyers must be tearing out their hair. I say $5,000,000 for the kids. Oh hell yeah.
Poor kids. :(
ilian
01-14-2007, 01:36 PM
My point is, it wasn't an ALL YOU CAN DRINK contest, right? So, to determine how sad or foolish this might have been, we need to know how much water was asked to be consumed.
A keg = extremely idiotic
5 gallons = harmful but can get away with it
1 gallon = relatively harmless
A gallon is 3.8 liters of water. In One sitting this is can be far from harmless if its just normal water with no added electrolytes.
From Wikipedia:
A person with two healthy kidneys can excrete about 1.5 litres of water per hour at maximum filtration (other studies find the limit to be as little as 0.9L/h [2]). Consuming as little as 1.8 litres of water in a single sitting may prove fatal for a person adhering to a low-sodium diet, or 3 litres for a person on a normal diet.
saulob
01-14-2007, 01:40 PM
what a sick thing.... btw, how much ($$) they will get from the radio station ?
Serapth
01-14-2007, 01:41 PM
I dont know, this stuff happens quite often. Generally the radio station will have an insurance policy in place that will protect them for the most part. There was a death in my hometown this summer from a girl that died eatting marshmellows in an eatting contest. Oddly, it happened about a year to the date earlier in chicago.
Mistakes are made and people die. There was no malicous intent, and I would be willing to bet 90%+ of the population wouldnt have thought there was a risk factor in this contest. Its tragic, but not horrific. Stop painting the radio station as villians.
stoney01
01-14-2007, 01:46 PM
In high school cross country, something similar happened like this to the Illinois State champion when I was still in school. Very scary thing that you can poison yourself with a needed element.
Netami
01-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Not funny. Sad.
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 01:55 PM
She was just trying to do something for her kids? Fuck that. It's a 250 dollar piece of hardware, not a Cray. While you people are arguing over whether she deserves your internet respects another few hundred people have died playing with matches and paint thinner, running with scissors, and other stupid shit. Happens every day, and this one is no more deserving of the kind of forum pity you people love to share than any of the others.
Want to crack a joke? Go ahead. Want to mope and sulk over her family? Fine. But don't act like this is some kind of national tragedy that can't be attributed to everyday stupidity. Nothing posted on this forum will ever reach that family. None of your forum mourning, none of the funnies. Humor is how we emotionally distance ourselves from the pains and horrors of life. Far be it from me to rip on someone for exercising humanity's most powerful mechanism for dealing with sorrow.
Quoting myself for truth. :P
But really, justifying her actions because they were "for the children", or because you think every normal parent is driven to such ridiculous actions by the drive to provide for their kids is bullshit. It's 250 dollars, and if you don't have the money to get one, you shouldn't be focusing on aquiring a console. If she really felt she needed one that badly, she could have hit ebay, amazon, or camped out for one on the eve of a fresh shipment.
Risking bodily harm is one of the most irresponsible things you can do as a parent, even in an effort to provide for your kids. I think those children would much rather have their mother than a brand new Wii.
The Letter 3
01-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Risking bodily harm is one of the most irresponsible things you can do as a parent, even in an effort to provide for your kids. I think those children would much rather have their mother than a brand new Wii.
Depends on the situation. Risking bodily harm as a parent to provide for your kids is one of the most noble things you can do as a parent. My dad has worked construction his whole life so I could have clothes, food, a house, and an education.
Risking bodily harm to acquire a luxury item for your kids... in a stripped down sense that is still noble because she cared about the happiness of her kids. But really, this whole fiasco is about common sense and thinking before acting. That's why at the end of the line, the woman is at fault and the radio station is at fault, and none of this is funny - just another one of those hard-learned lessons that we hopefully learn from.
BlackPete
01-14-2007, 02:07 PM
Mistakes are made and people die. There was no malicous intent, and I would be willing to bet 90%+ of the population wouldnt have thought there was a risk factor in this contest. Its tragic, but not horrific. Stop painting the radio station as villians.
If you host a party, you can (and will) be sued if one of your guests drive home drunk and cause a fatal accident.
And that's without you encouraging anyone to drink. You're supposed to be a responsible host, after all.
For a contest like this... not only are they encouraging people to drink beyond their limits, they REQUIRED it (until everyone else either passes out or their kidneys burst). I say required because that's what it took to win this contest.
So we should lay off the radio station? Puh-leeze. There is NO WAY that you can blame the victim here without blaming the radio station as well. The radio station didn't know you could die from water intoxication? Well chances are, neither did the woman!
The station held the contest, thus they're the ones responsible for everyone's health.
Serapth
01-14-2007, 02:10 PM
If you host a party, you can (and will) be sued if one of your guests drive home drunk and cause a fatal accident.
And that's without you encouraging anyone to drink. You're supposed to be a responsible host, after all.
For a contest like this... not only are they encouraging people to drink beyond their limits, they REQUIRED it (until everyone else either passes out or their kidneys burst). I say required because that's what it took to win this contest.
So we should lay off the radio station? Puh-leeze. There is NO WAY that you can blame the victim here without blaming the radio station as well. The radio station didn't know you could die from water intoxication? Well chances are, neither did the woman! The station held the contest, thus they're the ones responsible for everyone's health.
Ironically after reading what you said, the biggest disagreement I have is the fact you can be sued for anothers stupidity. I have always disagreed with laws like that and continue to do so. If you are an assmunch that comes to my house or bar and has too much to drink, you are 100% percent responsible.
If anything, that law should be removed from the books, not adding more stupid laws to them.
Mason
01-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Remember, it's not OK to have your own thoughts on things, but it's perfectly fine to insult and ridicule everyone who disagrees with you.
But when people insult and ridicule you, it isn't fine?
Especially on a thread on the Internet. It's real life actions that usually matter.
People don't fabricate whole new identities when they go online. Rather, some are more willing to expose socially unacceptable traits (belligerence, lack of compassion, intolerance) due to anonymity.
That's scary to non-assholes, not because some oh-so-romantic rebel is daring to disagree (my monocle went flying!), but rather because it indicates the presence of individuals who only simulate generalized soul-existence out of social necessity, and who are completely willing to expose and take pride in their malformed conscience as soon as the trappings of society are loosened a bit. It's creepy.
It's quite telling how the self-declared assholes view the situation in the context of conformity-vs.-individuality, as though socially-acceptable opinions can't actually be held in earnest, and being a quarrelsome prick is its own virtue. Ironically, this is pretty much exactly the worldview of shock radio and similar source of adolescent humor, so we've pretty much come full circle.
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 02:27 PM
But when people insult and ridicule you, it isn't fine?
People don't fabricate whole new identities when they go online. Rather, some are more willing to expose socially unacceptable traits (belligerence, lack of compassion, intolerance) due to anonymity.
That's scary to non-assholes, not because some oh-so-romantic rebel is daring to disagree (my monocle went flying!), but rather because it indicates the presence of individuals who only simulate generalized soul-existence out of social necessity, and who are completely willing to expose and take pride in their malformed conscience as soon as the trappings of society are loosened a bit. It's creepy.
It's quite telling how the self-declared assholes view the situation in the context of conformity-vs.-individuality, as though socially-acceptable opinions can't actually be held in earnest, and being a quarrelsome prick is its own virtue. Ironically, this is pretty much exactly the worldview of shock radio and similar source of adolescent humor, so we've pretty much come full circle.
Or, you know, maybe some people don't go into mourning over every goddamn news story about a dead person because they're trying to lead a balanced life in a world where at least one person dies a second. RE-HEALLY. Someone died? Cry me a river. Happens every few keystrokes as you type up your righteous analysis of unexpected and seemingly irrational internet behavior.
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper. Instead, many people try to look on the lighter side of even the most grim news. It's how we function. You might try to come to grips with that before you spend much more time on the internet.
Skyelan
01-14-2007, 02:41 PM
Or, you know, maybe some people don't go into mourning over every goddamn news story about a dead person because they're trying to lead a balanced life in a world where at least one person dies a second. RE-HEALLY. Someone died? Cry me a river. Happens every few keystrokes as you type up your righteous analysis of unexpected and seemingly irrational internet behavior.
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper. Instead, many people try to look on the lighter side of even the most grim news. It's how we function. You might try to come to grips with that before you spend much more time on the internet.
Yeah, lord forbid someone have a respect for the dead, and even if not mourning, generally don't walk around going "LOL SHE DESERVED IT FOR BEING TEH STUPIDZ DARWIN'D!".
Mind you, I'm not above giggling at a death if it's really absurd (Say someone has a prat fall death, gets their hand caught in a stove, gets paint all over them, falls in a truck of mouse traps etc), but I'm not going to walk around and post in a topic to get attention, since I know the people who have a grasp on the concept of respecting life and death will be disgusted at me and give me all the attention I could want.
No one has to be "MOURN MAN, THE PERFECT RESPECTER OF THE DEAD", but I suppose it is too much to expect the majority, rather than the minority, of humans to have a shred of decency. Anyone who says having some fucking tact is a 'religious' thing is a dipshit. Perigon, even if I believe in a God and he'll regularly mock me for it, has more of a soul than anyone who thinks it's funny or trying to prove some point about how "LOOSEN UP, EVERYONE CAN LAUGH AT CHILDREN BEING WITHOUT A MOTHER BECAUSE SHE JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR THEM!" here.
Call me someone who's just trying to feel better about himself, but I'd rather be that than someone who needs to get their jollies from people dying. :)
(Note that I don't think Ultima or Rirath are like that, because both are now being perfectly logical and reasonable even if they were being harsh at first).
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 02:44 PM
Or, you know, maybe some people don't go into mourning over every goddamn news story about a dead person because they're trying to lead a balanced life in a world where at least one person dies a second. RE-HEALLY. Someone died? Cry me a river. Happens every few keystrokes as you type up your righteous analysis of unexpected and seemingly irrational internet behavior.
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper. Instead, many people try to look on the lighter side of even the most grim news. It's how we function. You might try to come to grips with that before you spend much more time on the internet.
Spoken like a true asshole , congrats!!
ilian
01-14-2007, 03:26 PM
Or, you know, maybe some people don't go into mourning over every goddamn news story about a dead person because they're trying to lead a balanced life in a world where at least one person dies a second. RE-HEALLY. Someone died? Cry me a river. Happens every few keystrokes as you type up your righteous analysis of unexpected and seemingly irrational internet behavior.
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper. Instead, many people try to look on the lighter side of even the most grim news. It's how we function. You might try to come to grips with that before you spend much more time on the internet.
There is a difference between not mourning peoples deaths, and being a general retarded asshole for no real reason
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 03:28 PM
Yeah, lord forbid someone have a respect for the dead, and even if not mourning, generally don't walk around going "LOL SHE DESERVED IT FOR BEING TEH STUPIDZ DARWIN'D!".
Mind you, I'm not above giggling at a death if it's really absurd (Say someone has a prat fall death, gets their hand caught in a stove, gets paint all over them, falls in a truck of mouse traps etc), but I'm not going to walk around and post in a topic to get attention, since I know the people who have a grasp on the concept of respecting life and death will be disgusted at me and give me all the attention I could want.
No one has to be "MOURN MAN, THE PERFECT RESPECTER OF THE DEAD", but I suppose it is too much to expect the majority, rather than the minority, of humans to have a shred of decency. Anyone who says having some fucking tact is a 'religious' thing is a dipshit. Perigon, even if I believe in a God and he'll regularly mock me for it, has more of a soul than anyone who thinks it's funny or trying to prove some point about how "LOOSEN UP, EVERYONE CAN LAUGH AT CHILDREN BEING WITHOUT A MOTHER BECAUSE SHE JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR THEM!" here.
Call me someone who's just trying to feel better about himself, but I'd rather be that than someone who needs to get their jollies from people dying. :)
(Note that I don't think Ultima or Rirath are like that, because both are now being perfectly logical and reasonable even if they were being harsh at first).
Oh boo hoo. Another one bites the dust. Please understand, I'm not laughing because some people were saddened by this. I'm not even laughing at the lady who died from "holding her wii" too long. I'm laughing at the people like yourself who have singled out what may have been the most ridiculous death of the day, and are attempting to spare her the percieved indignity of being scoffed at by internet peoples. Oh noes.
I can just imagine how honored she would if she knew there was a vanguard of forum members defending her image from those who might find humor in the circumstances of her death. Please. Some people(including myself) are going to find this funny no matter what. It may not be so amusing to the family, but it's not your job to take her death as seriously as possible and slap the hands of anyone snickering. This is not an issue of tact, or decency. People do not, and should not feel bad about this kind of thing. Happens all day long, and you're wasting your life if you spend all your time worrying about the ends of others. Sheesh.
I'm not about to laugh at the death of a fireman or someone who died for their country, but someone who dies holding their pee for 250 bucks? Hell yes.
greenapple
01-14-2007, 03:32 PM
You know the saying, "but for the grace of god, there go I?"
I don't mourn this woman. In fact, I felt more genuine grief when my pet goldfish died than when I heard this story. That's pretty natural.
But I did take a second and think that this very well could have happened to me, or someone I care about.
We all take risks, and sometimes judging whether it is stupid or not is a pure exercise in hindsight. Drive out to buy the milk, some game, or to get to work. These can lead to death, and we know it when we get in the car. We probably know it better than most people know about the risks of getting over watered. Yet we do it. Stupid?
You don't have to mourn, I don't. But be respectful. And be sympathetic in the sense that you recognize that this very well could be a story about someone you love.
Thenetcase
01-14-2007, 03:39 PM
I hope that all the unsympathetic fuckers in this forum get flesh eating worms and slowly get devoured from the inside out...
The rest of this message is directed to all those who have no empathy or feelings for that mom and her kids:
That woman was taken advantage of by the radio station. The radio station should hav their asses sued into hell. And left there to rot. Some FUCKING RETARD at the station obviously didn't do any checking on this.
99.9% of all people DO NOT KNOW TOO MUCH WATER WILL KILL YOU.
Why can't you fucking 14 year old IDIOTS figure this out? Most of you are probably s fucking ignorant in some OTHER area that you'll end up killing yourself doing something EVEN MORE STUPID.
How many of you get drunk? How many of you drive home drunk under that allegation that you are a "safe driver when you're drunk"? Or how many of you drive and smoke or do drugs at the same time (and I'm talking legal and illegal)? These things are all FAR MORE STUPID Than what this mom did. She was trying to get her kids something awesome so they could feel some form of happiness. Drunk drivers are self-centered ignorant fucks who actually DO Deserve to die in an accident (w/o killing anyone else ideally). THEY are the ones who deserve the darwin award. NOT A MOM TRYING TO BE A GOOD MOTHER! Fuck! The lack of empathy some of you people show is unbelievable.
If I ever meet any of you fuckwads face to face, I will beat the fucking shit out of you.
I think 14 may be generous.
Serapth
01-14-2007, 03:43 PM
The lack of empathy some of you people show is unbelievable.
If I ever meet any of you fuckwads face to face, I will beat the fucking shit out of you.
I think you are being overly harsh [ten people have died by this point in my post] as the earlier comment [ 10 more people died ] although hard [ 10 more people died ] was accurate. Every [ 10 more people died ] second of the day [ 10 more people died ] people die and if you [ 10 more people died ] are going to spend [ 10 more people died ] every waking momment [ 10 more people died ] morning the loss [ 10 more people died ] you arent going to live [ 10 more people died ] much of a life.
greenapple
01-14-2007, 03:45 PM
I think 14 may be generous.
It's funny that many of the people who are attacking this woman are doing it on the basis of percieved stupidity or ignorance.
Yet, the very nature of their attacks indicates clear ignorance as to the hardships and realities of life. For their sakes, you hope that their young and that they'll grow out of it or be exposed to things that will make them reconsider.
Because if they're older and experienced and still act like this, they're simply emotionally broken.
greenapple
01-14-2007, 03:48 PM
I think you are being overly harsh [ten people have died by this point in my post] as the earlier comment [ 10 more people died ] although hard [ 10 more people died ] was accurate. Every [ 10 more people died ] second of the day [ 10 more people died ] people die and if you [ 10 more people died ] are going to spend [ 10 more people died ] every waking momment [ 10 more people died ] morning the loss [ 10 more people died ] you arent going to live [ 10 more people died ] much of a life.
So are you the type of guy that ignores their friends' or relatives' weddings, the birth of their children, or their birthdays?
After all, they're just so gosh damn common, right? Just because something happens every second of every day somewhere, doesn't make it not the most important thing in the world, to someone.
Someday, one of those deaths that happen every second will be the most important thing in the world to you.
And it'll be the most important thing for more than a second.
I don't know this woman, her death isn't important to me. But I sympathize.
Serapth
01-14-2007, 03:53 PM
So are you the type of guy that ignores their friends' or relatives' weddings, the birth of their children, or their birthdays?
After all, there just so gosh damn common, right? Just because something happens every second of every day somewhere, doesn't make it not the most important thing in the world, to someone.
Someday, one of those deaths that happen every second will be the most important thing in the world to you.
And it'll be the most important thing for more than a second.
I don't know this woman, her death isn't important to me. But I sympathize.
No, I am the type of guy that is realistic and realizes that empathy decays the farther you extend it. I have friends, and those friends I care more for and do more to help then people who are not friends. On the same accord, I am willing to do more to help neighbours and my community, then I am to help people further removed. It decays as it extends further out, until it extends to the point of a macro level, like helping an entire nation ( say.. starving children in Africa ). I am empathic to their plight as a whole, but an news an individual African has died means little or nothing to me.
Its a required mindset. If you spend every waking momment feeling sad for people that have it bad, you are going to live a terrible terrible life. Feel free to understand what I am saying, or dont, it really doesnt matter to me.
bhaalchild
01-14-2007, 03:55 PM
If human kind learned to care about the death of every person then we wouldn't have the violent history we share. And believe it or not I got that from a Star Trek TNG ep.
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 03:55 PM
I hope that all the unsympathetic fuckers in this forum get flesh eating worms and slowly get devoured from the inside out...
The rest of this message is directed to all those who have no empathy or feelings for that mom and her kids:
That woman was taken advantage of by the radio station. The radio station should hav their asses sued into hell. And left there to rot. Some FUCKING RETARD at the station obviously didn't do any checking on this.
99.9% of all people DO NOT KNOW TOO MUCH WATER WILL KILL YOU.
Why can't you fucking 14 year old IDIOTS figure this out? Most of you are probably s fucking ignorant in some OTHER area that you'll end up killing yourself doing something EVEN MORE STUPID.
How many of you get drunk? How many of you drive home drunk under that allegation that you are a "safe driver when you're drunk"? Or how many of you drive and smoke or do drugs at the same time (and I'm talking legal and illegal)? These things are all FAR MORE STUPID Than what this mom did. She was trying to get her kids something awesome so they could feel some form of happiness. Drunk drivers are self-centered ignorant fucks who actually DO Deserve to die in an accident (w/o killing anyone else ideally). THEY are the ones who deserve the darwin award. NOT A MOM TRYING TO BE A GOOD MOTHER! Fuck! The lack of empathy some of you people show is unbelievable.
If I ever meet any of you fuckwads face to face, I will beat the fucking shit out of you.
ROFL. THATS RIGHT YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKERS! HAVE SOME FUCKING SYMPATHY OR ILL FUCKING BEAT YOUR FACE IN!!111@@!32121 FUCK!!! RAAAAWER!! FUCK!!!
Jesus Christ, you shot off topic like a cruise missile. Really, do you think that drunk drivers justify stupidy? Come on. Personal attacks don't win arguments. And for the 5 time today, saying that she was just trying to provide for her kids is retarded. That thing is 250 dollars. Not a whole lot, and as I said before, if you can't afford to BUY one, you should probably be more concerned with your financial status that winning a radio contest.
I think you are being overly harsh [ten people have died by this point in my post] as the earlier comment [ 10 more people died ] although hard [ 10 more people died ] was accurate. Every [ 10 more people died ] second of the day [ 10 more people died ] people die and if you [ 10 more people died ] are going to spend [ 10 more people died ] every waking momment [ 10 more people died ] morning the loss [ 10 more people died ] you arent going to live [ 10 more people died ] much of a life.
QFT. Go bury yourself in a moutain of tissues if you want, but don't try to make me do the same.
Schnoogs
01-14-2007, 03:56 PM
Or, you know, maybe some people don't go into mourning over every goddamn news story about a dead person because they're trying to lead a balanced life in a world where at least one person dies a second. RE-HEALLY. Someone died? Cry me a river. Happens every few keystrokes as you type up your righteous analysis of unexpected and seemingly irrational internet behavior.
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper. Instead, many people try to look on the lighter side of even the most grim news. It's how we function. You might try to come to grips with that before you spend much more time on the internet.
God i hope you dont have kids or are in a position to reproduce and influence a young impressionable mind.
Heretic Machine
01-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I think you are being overly harsh [ten people have died by this point in my post] as the earlier comment [ 10 more people died ] although hard [ 10 more people died ] was accurate. Every [ 10 more people died ] second of the day [ 10 more people died ] people die and if you [ 10 more people died ] are going to spend [ 10 more people died ] every waking momment [ 10 more people died ] morning the loss [ 10 more people died ] you arent going to live [ 10 more people died ] much of a life.
No one is asking you to mourn for someone you don't know dieing. Very few people in the world do that. But I don't think it is too much to expect people to keep this Darwin award bullshit to themselves, particularly when it is being misapplied not only because of technicalities, but also because this was not a stupid thing for the woman to do. I had never heard of water intoxication before, and I'm a college student. If anything, I would of thought that this contest could cause kidney failure or something, but not having your brain swell to the point that you die. As well, I would of expected that any danger to my kidneys would be met with a warning of pain. From what people are saying, this water intoxication crap can take you from feeling slightly dizzy, to dieing, with nothing in between.
The radio station should of researched their contest. But like most radio stations, they didn't. They acted irresponsibly, and got someone hurt, all for ratings. This kind of shit would not be acceptable in television. If something on Fear Factor got a mother of three killed, Joe Rogan would be hung up by his balls, and people would be more careful about coming up with these little stunts. But in radio, it just happens over and over again, and nothing is done. It is ridiculous, and I'll be glad when the medium is dead.
And certainly, you probably shouldn't feel sad that she died. I don't, because I didn't know her. But there is a big fucking gap between being indifferent, and finding cruel humor in the pain of others.
greenapple
01-14-2007, 03:59 PM
Its a required mindset. If you spend every waking momment feeling sad for people that have it bad, you are going to live a terrible terrible life. Feel free to understand what I am saying, or dont, it really doesnt matter to me.
Charity and action are finite. Unlike you, I don't see how sympathy and empathy are finite.
As I said, I don't mourn the woman nor is her death important to me or mine.
But I have no problem understanding her family's situation or grief. I don't feel it myself, but I can equate.
I don't shed a tear for your nameless African death. But I'm also not so callous to think that, in other circumstances, that couldn't have been me or mine. And that alone should be enough to keep someone from making dumbass comments.
Johan
01-14-2007, 04:02 PM
This thread should have been closed after ten posts. 200 posts later, it's the same regurgitated nonsense.
Someone put this sucker to bed. Please.
Serapth
01-14-2007, 04:04 PM
No one is asking you to mourn for someone you don't know dieing. Very few people in the world do that. But I don't think it is too much to expect people to keep this Darwin award bullshit to themselves, particularly when it is being misapplied not only because of technicalities, but also because this was not a stupid thing for the woman to do. I had never heard of water intoxication before, and I'm a college student. If anything, I would of thought that this contest could cause kidney failure or something, but not having your brain swell to the point that you die. As well, I would of expected that any danger to my kidneys would be met with a warning of pain. From what people are saying, this water intoxication crap can take you from feeling slightly dizzy, to dieing, with nothing in between.
The radio station should of researched their contest. But like most radio stations, they didn't. They acted irresponsibly, and got someone hurt, all for ratings. This kind of shit would not be acceptable in television. If something on Fear Factor got a mother of three killed, Joe Rogan would be hung up by his balls, and people would be more careful about coming up with these little stunts. But in radio, it just happens over and over again, and nothing is done. It is ridiculous, and I'll be glad when the medium is dead.
And certainly, you probably shouldn't feel sad that she died. I don't, because I didn't know her. But there is a big fucking gap between being indifferent, and finding cruel humor in the pain of others.
... what calious comment have I made?!?!
chechenepiphany
01-14-2007, 04:07 PM
WEHoa! News flash! It's not stupid for a mother of two to try to win 250 dollars by out drinking everyone else in a radio contest!
Lutheran
01-14-2007, 04:38 PM
^^^^^ This moron hasn't made a post for over 8 months and he decides today to come back and share his miserable existence with the rest of us. Welcome back asswipe! ( where were you all this time , busy sodomizing the neighborhood children? )
rv_el
01-14-2007, 05:01 PM
This water thing keeps happening. In i think floriday, there were these parents who kept having their kid drink water because it was good for the kids unusual condition.. well. the parents (they adopted) were sooo freaked about bout the kid dying from the condition, they had her drinking water like mad... they over reacted. anyways she died from the same thing.
After reading that article you can bet i'm not even getting close to something like that. This is simply something they dont teach in schools or parents dont tell their kids, because they dont know either. Right now for all i know there are 5 little kids hanging out in a back yard having a "drink off" with a hose to see who can down the most hose water.. and it coudl be much worse then just getting the shits or throwing up.
Achilles
01-14-2007, 05:04 PM
Mistakes are made and people die. There was no malicous intent, and I would be willing to bet 90%+ of the population wouldnt have thought there was a risk factor in this contest. Its tragic, but not horrific. Stop painting the radio station as villians.If you're going to run a contest which you acknowledge might be dangerous, than you have a responsibility to do 5 seconds of due diligence and find out why it's dangerous, rather than just post some weak disclaimer that gives nobody the impression that they would die if they did what the contest told them to.
The radio show/station/host need to be held responsible and destroyed in court to set an example for other people who would do something this reckless, to at least ask a doctor before you start a contest that involves ingesting large amounts of something. Now I agree that the radio show probably had no idea this would happen, and the station probably didn't even know they were putting on the contest, but that's exactly the problem. What do they call it? Criminal Negligence?
Edit: Oh and I can only expect anyone who thinks this is funny will be forced to play Batman Dark Tomorrow in hell for the rest of eternity. You better figure out why a mother dying from drinking too much water in a radio contest amuses you and fix that broken part of your personality. (not talking about you with this Serapth)
Jack B
01-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Don't know if it's been posted in this tread yet, but here's Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication) on water intoxication.
Water intoxication (also known as hyperhydration or water poisoning) is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain function that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits by a very rapid intake of water.[1]
Radio stations, the Jackass TV show, hazing... It's amazing how often they go to extremes and learn all to late, that doing most anything to the extreme can be dangerous. It's always sad when they don't researce the health hazards of contests or use common sense.
Dag-Sabot
01-14-2007, 05:16 PM
If I ever meet any of you fuckwads face to face, I will beat the fucking shit out of you.Ahh yes the pinnacle of diplomacy and forum debate: The perennial "Meet you face to face & kick your butt" threat.
-Ridiculous.
>>Disclaimer: This is an observation only. It is intended for entertainment purposes only. Not to me used as legal tender. Void where prohibited by law , batteries not included. Choking hazard.<<
JayK47
01-14-2007, 05:17 PM
In the Army we were forced to drink lots of water "to prevent dehydration". Privates were barfing up water all the time. I never did, but I drank so much water I felt sick, that is for sure. Water just doesn't taste very good after a couple of quarts in less than an hour. Yuck. She must have a lot of willpower to keep the water down and to keep from pissing herself. It's not like she can tie off the hose or anything;) If she would have lived throught he ordeal, I bet she did permanent damage to her bladder.
Hieremias
01-14-2007, 05:40 PM
What this thread really needs is someone to show up and express their righteous disgust over the fact that people aren't taking this story with a great deal of mourning and sympathy. Because it hasn't been said enough yet.
Telling people they ought to feel bad always works and I'm surprised nobody has tried it.
Rirath
01-14-2007, 05:49 PM
If people took every news story like this entirely seriously you would be able to walk out of your apartment complex without being hit by a jumper.
Wow, it was worth reading more of this just for that line. :D
But at least if he killed me the folks at EvAv would be there to take pity. ;)
What I find most interesting about this thread are all of you folks who find yourself so incredibly morally superior, yet in the very same post, you say things like "die in a fire", "worms eat you inside out", "beat the crap out of you" and so forth. Do you not see anything wrong with this behavior? Do you not see the irony of claiming moral superiority, all the while threatening other forum members?
It scares me sometimes how many people have this mindset.
(Note that I don't think Ultima or Rirath are like that, because both are now being perfectly logical and reasonable even if they were being harsh at first).
I'm not exactly sure what I ever said that was harsh to this woman? All I said was learn from it and move on.
It wasn't funny until Draft's first post on page 1 :)
As to the people saying 'oh noes, it's hoorible! Nots funny!'...sigh.
ALL HUMOR IS AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEONE ELSE. Except for a couple of linguistic jokes, all humor is Schadenfreude. Death not funny? Tell that to the millions of soldiers who have been in the metaphorical trenches, or the doctors who have lost patients. If you dare to get on your high horse and declare: "THOUGH SHALT NOT LAUGH AT THIS", well, fuck you for deciding which bit of misfortune I can and can't laugh at. You have succeeded at making yourselves a bit less human for denying yourselves and others the good fortune of laughing in the face of death.
Now I didn't find the story funny (although as noted I found the fact that in the first couple of pages only Draft got what a Darwin entails to be really funny) or even amusing. But to tell someone not to find it amusing...what gives you the autority to do that? The correct term for people like you is 'sanctimonious prick'. It might not be polite to laugh if you're at the funeral of this mother...but this is the fucking internet. Mom's kids aren't here, and if they are...time to grow up and realise that contrary to what the fables and myths tell us, life is not fair, or kind, and you don't automatically get codled. So don't expect it. Sometimes the only thing you can do is laugh.
What's especially galling to me is the fact that most of the people on this board are americans, where the sentiment used to be: "I am disgusted by what you say, but I shall fight to the death for your right to say it". What happened? Did it just become inconvenient? Or did that nonsensical, useless and soulnumbing beast called 'political correctness' win? If so , why do you bow to this false idol? It only hides a person's true nature, it does not change it...it makes what is truly evil to you only more insidious, nothing else.
Schnoogs
01-14-2007, 06:10 PM
Way to turn immature, stupidity into "exercising our right to free speech".
Achilles
01-14-2007, 06:15 PM
Telling people they ought to feel bad always works and I'm surprised nobody has tried it.I’m not sure anyone’s actually trying to change these people’s minds by flaming them, but rather by expressing disgust at their sentiments and showing that they won’t let people get away with saying stuff like that, even on the internet. It’s not okay to look at this article and go “lol, what an idiot, she’s better off dead.” and if it takes 100 hateful posts to get it through some people's heads that maybe they should keep that stuff to themselves, than that's how it'll be.
I’m reminded of a character poster we had on here for a few months named Nietzsche. He’d come into any thread about anybody getting killed, such as a plane crash or car accident and say that it was natural selection and they were better off dead, if they had been stronger they would have lived, how he felt no compassion for the people who died etc. I believe he was banned.
Kefkataran
01-14-2007, 06:27 PM
People don't fabricate whole new identities when they go online. Rather, some are more willing to expose socially unacceptable traits (belligerence, lack of compassion, intolerance) due to anonymity.
That's scary to non-assholes, not because some oh-so-romantic rebel is daring to disagree (my monocle went flying!), but rather because it indicates the presence of individuals who only simulate generalized soul-existence out of social necessity, and who are completely willing to expose and take pride in their malformed conscience as soon as the trappings of society are loosened a bit. It's creepy.
It's quite telling how the self-declared assholes view the situation in the context of conformity-vs.-individuality, as though socially-acceptable opinions can't actually be held in earnest, and being a quarrelsome prick is its own virtue. Ironically, this is pretty much exactly the worldview of shock radio and similar source of adolescent humor, so we've pretty much come full circle.
Well-written as usual. Thanks for that, Mason.
This thread should have been closed after ten posts. 200 posts later, it's the same regurgitated nonsense.
Someone put this sucker to bed. Please.
You are correct, sir. Done and done.
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