Tekken 5 Released to Playstation Store in Japan

[Kefkataran]

In what's likely to be a big step for future downloadable games on consoles, Gamasutra (http://www.gamasutra.com) is reporting that Sony has officially released Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection on their online Playstation Store in Japan. From the full report (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12225):

First hinted at in a Weekly Famitsu report in early December without a release date or price point, the PS3 version of Dark Resurrection has quietly been added to both the Japan and Hong Kong local PlayStation Stores.

Running at full HD (in up to 720p or 1080p) at a promised 60 frames per second, the new version of the 7th iteration in the long-running Tekken series makes boss character Jinpachi Mishima playable for the first time.


New, fully HD version of a well-loved fighter for only just over $15? The 830 MB download is awfully heavy, sure, but once again Sony has shown that they're serious about offering compelling downloadable content at really nice pricing. Let's hope this makes it over to North America without a big boost in the price, and let's hope we keep seeing more of this.

[Gorvi]

That's pretty damn slick. Good to see they're looking to put that 60GB HDD to good use. Now they need to get Square-Enix on board and get some HD FFXII lovin'.

[Returner]

Pass_______

[Grimmjow]

can't wait....cheaper then buying the ps2/psp version and with extra goodies...im alll for it!

[Maskatron]

Not a bad deal. Too bad it requires a $600 console.

[roboninja]

Well, shiver me timbers, Sony doing something right. Bravo, that price point is nice for a relatively new game with some HD goodness. Now if they can keep this up, maybe it will pressure MS and Nintendo to change their price model for classics, which is borderline ridiculous.

[Com_Gaunt]

Might be a good start of a cascade of gaming goodness :) Who knows, the PS3 might be the console to rule them all!

[bapenguin]

Awesome. It's about time someone made DLC CHEAPER than then boxed copy counterpart.

[dena miscreant]

Wait. So you can buy the PSP game on the online store and play it on your PS3?

Or you can transfer it to your PSP from your PS3?

I'm ignorant. Save me.

[mkelehan]

Is it really Tekken 5?

[Kefkataran]

Dena, Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection, if I understand it correctly, was an arcade game first (like most fighters). It got ported to the PSP and now there's a PS3 version with some new content (new playable characters and such) and fully HD graphics.

[Tyrant]

T5: DR contains 2 new characters and some new stages. The PS3 version doesn't have any new content, save for a playable Jinpachi(probably instabanned from tourneys...) and HD resolution. Given the download size, it probably doesn't have any of the CG videos from the PSP version. It may very well be a straight up arcade port with no extras(save for playable Jinpachi).

Now for clarification, the game was released by Bandai/Namco and I don't think Sony had much of a hand in the pricing or anything else, save for maybe agreeing to put it up on the store.

[dena miscreant]

Color me impressed. Tekken 5 was a lot of fun.

Except that damned Jinpachi with his firebreathing nonsense and extreme damage potential.

[Kefkataran]

Tyrant, whether or not Sony had a hand in pricing, it's still a much better, more reasonable price than a lot of "lesser" content that we're seeing on both Microsoft and Nintendo's download services that seem overpriced by comparison. And Sony's already had other downloadable content for really good pricing (Lemmings).

[bapenguin]

Tyrant, whether or not Sony had a hand in pricing, it's still a much better, more reasonable price than a lot of "lesser" content that we're seeing on both Microsoft and Nintendo's download services that seem overpriced by comparison. And Sony's already had other downloadable content for really good pricing (Lemmings).

Is it true you can't play any VC games unless you have the classic controller (or GC controller)?

My cousin was talking about VC to me and I couldn't believe it when he told me that.

[dena miscreant]

I don't think that's completely, BAP. Pretty sure I've heard that the Wiimote is the number one choice for many VC titles, but just won't work with others.

EDIT: That should read "completely true, BAP."

[Kefkataran]

Is it true you can't play any VC games unless you have the classic controller (or GC controller)?

My cousin was talking about VC to me and I couldn't believe it when he told me that.

No, that's not true. NES and most TG16 titles (and some Sega ones, I think) can use the normal Wii remote turned on its side, so it looks sort of like an old NES controller. SNES, N64, and other more complex titles require using either a classic controller or a Gamecube controller simply because there's not enough buttons on the normal Wii controller for it to work otherwise. Nintendo's online shop tells you very clearly before every purchase which controllers work with the game you're purchasing.

[Gorvi]

It should work fine for NES games, but I think you need a GC or classic controller for anything else. I'm pretty sure it's just a button issue.

Edit : Bah, Kef beat me to it.

[Ultima Thulian]

Great, great deal. I still see the PSP version go for $40 in some spots. Say what you will about Sony, but their pricing on downloadables is very kickass. I mean you'd have to be a big sony hater to bitch about this.

[Vanthar]

Wow, this is probably going to be my first PS Store purchase. That price is great!

[Kefkataran]

Exactly my point, Ultima 13. Like I said, I just hope they keep that stuff up in the future.

[Tyrant]

Wait, so are you giving credit to Sony for something they may or may not have priced?

$15 is a good price and Lemmings is quite reasonably priced as well, but I think said pricing is purely up to the company providing the game. For instance, I don't think MS had any say in EA charging money for cheat codes on the Marketplace, and don't recall anyone subsequently smiting MS.

[Kefkataran]

Wait, so are you giving credit to Sony for something they may or may not have priced?

$15 is a good price and Lemmings is quite reasonably priced as well, but I think said pricing is purely up to the company providing the game. For instance, I don't think MS had any say in EA charging money for cheat codes on the Marketplace, and don't recall anyone subsequently smiting MS.

No, what I'm saying is that from the point of view of a consumer looking at the two different downloadable content providers, Sony's looking a lot better right now. Now obviously Sony also has a lot less stuff on the whole compared to Microsoft, so it's still WAAAAY too early to say "OMFG, SONY WINZ DOWNLOADZ" but right now they're on a path I'm much more interested in following (whether because of Sony themselves or just the devs putting stuff up on their service) than Microsoft.

Also, Microsoft obviously had some say in EA charging for cheats. That is to say, Microsoft let them do so on their service. They okay'd it, at the least.

[dena miscreant]

I'm hoping the Sony marketplace puts up some nice competition to drive Live's prices down.

How much is Lemmings, anyway? Considering how old it is, I'd hope it wouldn't be very expensive.

But Frogger and Galaga have already proved me wrong on Live (being the same cost as other new titles).

[Kefkataran]

Dena, believe Lemmings was released for $5.99, but included online leaderboard and a bunch of new levels/features to differentiate it from the original.

[dena miscreant]

That's cool that they added new levels.

Reminds me a lot, actually, of what's happening with the old Arcade titles on Live Arcade.

Oh, well. I've paid for Contra, Frogger, and Doom multiple times now.

But, the 360 versions are by far the best.

Anyone played online multiplayer DOOM? :D

[bapenguin]

No, that's not true. NES and most TG16 titles (and some Sega ones, I think) can use the normal Wii remote turned on its side, so it looks sort of like an old NES controller. SNES, N64, and other more complex titles require using either a classic controller or a Gamecube controller simply because there's not enough buttons on the normal Wii controller for it to work otherwise. Nintendo's online shop tells you very clearly before every purchase which controllers work with the game you're purchasing.

Thanks. That's what I figured...but he said he tried it and it didn't work for Gunstar Heroes.

Anyway...I'll get to know first hand in a few days when my Wii arrives. :D

[RMan]

Well, at the very least I think it's nice to know that, at least for now, Sony certainly isn't making it hard to sell online software at a low price. I mean, I agree that Sony almost assuredly doesn’t set the prices, but at the same time they could do things like having a minimum price per unit or high fees for download sizes, and the prices we’re seeing certainly suggest that this isn’t the case. Being the most expensive console and so close to it’s launch nobody would have batted an eye if such a title was $30 or even $40, so it’s nice to see such competitively priced software, even if there's currently little of it. It also seems that a pretty significant precedent is being set with this pricing, it will be difficult to raise the prices substantially on online releases if they keep this up, and if Sony wanted the prices higher there’s clearly a number of ways they could force it. Anyway, this isn’t enough to ensure low prices for the future, but it seems a good sign to me.

[rein]

Dena, believe Lemmings was released for $5.99, but included online leaderboard and a bunch of new levels/features to differentiate it from the original.

You are incorrect, Lemming was $2.99. Very frigging cool price and I believe it is 40 all new levels. :)

Do you have your PS3 yet? I finally got my copy of Motorstorm in today. The vehicles are much faster and the frame rate is smoother than either demo. The best way to expain it is my best time in the demo is something like 4:56. I just did my first race on the demo track and beat that time with a wreck that slowed me down. I will not get a lot of time to play it before the weekend but I like what I have seen so far. I have read it lacks features though.


Edit: I tried to download Tekken 5 from the Hong Kong store. I got as far as entering the credit card info and thinking it was going to work. Unfortunately at the last step it told me it could not authorize the CC. I read on a messge board a guy was able to do it because it does not check the address but I think he may have fibbed.

[Kefkataran]

You are incorrect, Lemming was $2.99. Very frigging cool price and I believe it is 40 all new levels. :)

Weird. That's what I remember too (and it's an amazing price), but a few places around the web when I looked were saying $5.99.

Do you have your PS3 yet? I finally got my copy of Motorstorm in today. The vehicles are much faster and the frame rate is smoother than either demo. The best way to expain it is my best time in the demo is something like 4:56. I just did my first race on the demo track and beat that time with a wreck that slowed me down. I will not get a lot of time to play it before the weekend but I like what I have seen so far. I have read it lacks features though.

Imported a copy of Motorstorm? I'm definitely waiting for the US version so I get multiplayer. I've heard there's basically nothing but a straight racing mode in the Japan release. Hopefully the US one will get a bit more (in addition to multi), but even just multi will be nice if it's implemented well.

And, no, my buddy's got the PS3, I'll be picking it up when I'm back in my hometown next week. I'll let you know so we can fight noobz on Resistance.

[Pumped'Up]

Not a bad deal. Too bad it requires a $600 console.
mAsskatron, you're so f*ck'n-A-right. Sony owes us the PS3 for free damn it!!!

[Rambilin]

So has anyone with a Japanese account with a US PS3 tried to download this? Something tells me downloadable content won't be like Motorstorm and other region free games.

[Kefkataran]

Rambilin, is there an easy way to have a Japanese account on a US PS3 like with the 360?

Also, it's not just "Motorstorm and other region-free games". IIRC, all PS3 games are region-free.

[rein]

Rambilin, is there an easy way to have a Japanese account on a US PS3 like with the 360?

Also, it's not just "Motorstorm and other region-free games". IIRC, all PS3 games are region-free.

It is just as easy.

[Siraris]

Wait, so are you giving credit to Sony for something they may or may not have priced?

$15 is a good price and Lemmings is quite reasonably priced as well, but I think said pricing is purely up to the company providing the game. For instance, I don't think MS had any say in EA charging money for cheat codes on the Marketplace, and don't recall anyone subsequently smiting MS.

Wow, this is some new form of trolling or something. Do you honestly believe that Sony has no hand in the pricing of the games on its download service? What about the prices of all the other games which are EXTREMELY reasonable?

[Draft]

The good: it's cheap!

The bad: where's the on-line play?

The ugly: Tekken 6
http://www.ixbt.com/news/games/_console/tekken6_screen/l/1.jpg

[Rambilin]

It is as easy as setting up another region login for the Xbox360 pre media downloads. I am not sure how billing would work though, that is if you have a Japanese account you might have to have Japanese billing information. I've been stuck trying to figure out how to get flash 9 to work on the PPC version of YDL 5.0 once (if?) I figure that out I'll reboot into the game os and see if my Visa works and if not maybe a Diners International since it is tied to a Govt. account and no physical address.

As far as the region lock goes it unfortunantly exists but like the Xbox360 it is at the software level rather than some silly easily removed bios check for the optical media, or easily sandpapered/removable rails for the old cartridges. NCSX has notes on the software regarding where or if it is region locked.

[Kefkataran]

Really? I could've sworn Sony had said no region locking at all, but I guess it make senses that it exists at the software level and is up to the devs, since that seems to be a theme Sony's trying to go for.

Let us know if you figure out if the download works.

[Siraris]

http://www.playsyde.com/stream_3479_en.html

For anyone who wants to watch the first few minutes of the bootup. There actually seems to be pre-rendered video for the intro at least.

[Grimmjow]

Weird. That's what I remember too (and it's an amazing price), but a few places around the web when I looked were saying $5.99.



Imported a copy of Motorstorm? I'm definitely waiting for the US version so I get multiplayer. I've heard there's basically nothing but a straight racing mode in the Japan release. Hopefully the US one will get a bit more (in addition to multi), but even just multi will be nice if it's implemented well.

And, no, my buddy's got the PS3, I'll be picking it up when I'm back in my hometown next week. I'll let you know so we can fight noobz on Resistance.

yeah i think it was a limited time only for $2.99 because i d/l'ed it @ $5.99 price tag

[KIllrazor]

This guy here explains how he did to purchase Tekken from the Japan store it seems. Check it out!

http://www.octopusoverlords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=864060#864060

[epyon]

Really good to see some good, decently priced games coming out on PS3. I hope Tekken 5: DR comes out in the US; I'll get that one right away.

Just want to point that I think, and am pretty sure its the case, that while the games these downloads come from are not from the console makers all the time, does not mean that they don't have a hand in the pricing of said content. I bet Microsoft has a standard price structure for live an arcade titles, as well as providing standard to developers on what kinds and what prices it suggests for other game content. Nintendo has standard prices for each kind of console a game comes from on VC (SNES - 800 points [$8], N64 - 1000 points [$10]).

[Rambilin]

The link above's directions work perfectly, and I am downloading it as I type. However, I am very disturbed at the lack of verification done on the CC through the Sony HK store. You put in a make believe address and yet the CC charges go right through no questions asked. So make sure if you do this method to delete any personal info and format your drive if you swap out the harddrive or return it to the store. Especially with all the linux builds out it is only a matter of time before the game-os is exposed and that info is equally exposed.

When it is done downloading I'll post what audio modes it supports since we allready know the video supported.

[Tyrant]

Wow, this is some new form of trolling or something. Do you honestly believe that Sony has no hand in the pricing of the games on its download service? What about the prices of all the other games which are EXTREMELY reasonable?

Yes, I do believe Sony does not have a direct hand in pricing of 3rd party goods in their store. If there is any involvement at all, it likely has more to do with the prices of their own downloads, which may influence the decision of a publisher's price. I doubt Sony or any other company for that matter would be against the idea of potentially making more money if people are willing to pay higher prices for goods. Assuming that they get a percentage of the sale anyway. Someone needs to test the waters as it were with this gosh darned new fangled console game digital download business.

[Gorvi]

This guy here explains how he did to purchase Tekken from the Japan store it seems. Check it out!

http://www.octopusoverlords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=864060#864060

That, sir, kicks ass. I sure as hell hope this works with the PSOne games too, Japan has a much better selection than we have now.

[bosx2]

thats just great, 15$ for the best Tekken game right now. Man I am so hyped again for ps3. I cant freakn wait till ps3 gets released here in europe.

I am maybe the biggest Tekken fan on earth, and with the perfect digipad of the ps3, I am going to love it for sure.


ohh man, I cant wait.. I want it now

[51|RandoM]

Yes, I do believe Sony does not have a direct hand in pricing of 3rd party goods in their store. If there is any involvement at all, it likely has more to do with the prices of their own downloads, which may influence the decision of a publisher's price. I doubt Sony or any other company for that matter would be against the idea of potentially making more money if people are willing to pay higher prices for goods. Assuming that they get a percentage of the sale anyway. Someone needs to test the waters as it were with this gosh darned new fangled console game digital download business.

...so as long as nobody gives Sony any credit for having an online store for the ps3/psp with inexpensive games in it, you'll rest happy? Whatever...

[TKO]

Hmmm... I can't find anything in this latest PS3 news item that I can use to reinforce my view of Sony's suckiness. Well done Sony. Anyone care to mention if this version seems to be any good? I used to be a big Tekken fan, but after 3, well, there hasn't been much to be excited about for a long long time.

[HumpYourWay]

GREAT! Downloading it right now.

[HumpYourWay]

but after 3, well, there hasn't been much to be excited about for a long long time.

LOL, sound like you are talking about your life!!!

[Rambilin]

Played it for about an hour with Jin, and it has a nice smooth framerate, 5.1 and tons of unlockable content. You seem to get 3k gold every victory and most purchasable stuff (original arcade intro, concept art, etc) seems to be in the 50k plus range. The demo won't impress the jaded or the synical since it isn't that much of a leap from Tekken 5/4/Tag, but for someone who has never played the PSP version due to not wanting to update the firmware this is a great deal for $16.09.

[bosx2]

more pics:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Andytashiro/IMG_6220.jpg
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Andytashiro/IMG_6207.jpg
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Andytashiro/IMG_6208.jpg
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Andytashiro/IMG_6210.jpg

[Grimmjow]

those screens are hot...i loved Tekken 5 and i didn't play DR so i will be picking this up

[bosx2]

more of this cool stuff:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3935/tekken04gs5.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/335001474_971c4b40e1_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/335000230_aa321bf82c_b.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4754/tekken07ta7.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7928/tekken19ma1.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7372/tekken14ie9.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6610/tekken09kl9.jpg

[torrefaction]

This is a great thing overall. Great for PS3 owners and great for 360 owners too. MS and friends will feel the pressure if Sony keeps pricing content like this, and we'll see the respect drops.

To bad there's not enough PS3 owners to reallyencourage this yet.

[51|RandoM]

This is a great thing overall. Great for PS3 owners and great for 360 owners too. MS and friends will feel the pressure if Sony keeps pricing content like this, and we'll see the respect drops.


That is what I'm hoping for, a repeal of the Internet Multiplayer Tax.

So, btw, where is your 360 at the moment? /duck

[torrefaction]

That is what I'm hoping for, a repeal of the Internet Multiplayer Tax.

So, btw, where is your 360 at the moment? /duck

On the way, I got passed all the confusion, and it should actually arrive at the repair center tomorrow. Just a another week or two of downtime...although if my last experience holds up, I'll have it back within less than a week.

[Tyrant]

...so as long as nobody gives Sony any credit for having an online store for the ps3/psp with inexpensive games in it, you'll rest happy? Whatever...

Way to miss the point.

"Our football team won the regional championship all because of our sponsor, Dale Flazlac Motors! Go Dale Flazlac Motors!"

[TKO]

LOL, sound like you are talking about your life!!!
You're right.. after those 3 hot models the other week, I just haven't been able to get excited about the latest hot supermodel in my bed. Ah, life it tough. But at least she's a Tekken fan, so I might stick with her. :D

[Pumped'Up]

http://www.playsyde.com/stream_3479_en.html

For anyone who wants to watch the first few minutes of the bootup. There actually seems to be pre-rendered video for the intro at least.
warning, the video streaming is EXTREMELY slow.

Personally, I can't stand that trance/techo music crap....ugh, f*ckn terrible.

[Kefkataran]

Nice. looks like a purchase for me.