Rumor: MGS4 Coming to Xbox 360?

[Zeal]

From Team XBox (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12448/Metal-Gear-Solid-4-Coming-to-Xbox-360/):

Apparently, the rumors are abound that while the PS3 version of MGS4 will be released first, that some time there after, Konami will be releasing it on the Xbox 360 as well. The rumors take things even further, stating that the reason behind this decision is that the publisher feels it is necessary in order to recoup the costs in making the game and they just don't believe there are enough PS3 units on the market because of the Blu-ray diode failure situation.

I can't say this is really surprising to me. Kojima said from the very beginning that MGS4 could run on the 360 and that a port wouldn't be a problem. I expect many so-called PS3 exclusives to be ported over to 360.It's only a matter of time.

[EL CABONG]

I can't say this is really surprising to me. Kojima said from the very beginning that MGS4 could run on the 360 and that a port wouldn't be a problem. I expect many so-called PS3 exclusives to be ported over to 360.

It's only a matter of time.

TeamXbox.com (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12448/Metal-Gear-Solid-4-Coming-to-Xbox-360/)
yes I agree.

If MS4 comes to 360 or not isn't that big a deal to me. I am more of a Splinter Cell guy but more games for the 360 the better.

[Johan]

Regardless of seeing this info. or not, I believe most people are well aware of the pressure on developers this generation to make their titles multi-platform. I would not be surprised at all if this happened; however, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony pulled an 11th-hour exclusivity contract with a bucket or two of money.

This isn't a surprising idea...it'll probably be on the 360.

[KidCactus]

and they just don't believe there are enough PS3 units on the market because of the Blu-ray diode failure situation.
But will that still be a problem when the game is released?

[Fartacus]

There will never be a problem porting PS3 titles to 360. 360 has more capable hardware than PS3, particularly in the graphics dept.

But I can't say I'm excited. I've never like the Metal Gear series.

[Wolfgang]

But will that still be a problem when the game is released?

If the 360 maintains a 4 million+ unit lead (currently has over 8 million unit lead), yeah that is a problem.

[ldi222]

I liked the E3 video. Not enough to buy a PS3 to play it but if it came out on 360 Id give it a look.

[Ultima Thulian]

How many times is this material gonna be posted? Seriously? How many thread/topics have been devoted to "Is MGS4 comin' to 360?" in the past three months? Christ.

[MajSheppard]

This will be made true, rumor or not, if the PS3 doesn't start catching up to MS and Nintendo awfully quick.

[mkelehan]

I think that by the time MGS4 comes out, PS3s will be on the shelves and anyone who wants one will be able to get one. However, I DO think that hiring a second team to port the game is a good idea, simply because even when the systems are available, lots of people would just rather not get one. So, the question is... how much would Sony give them to make it exclusive?

[JimmyDanger]

Yeah - first heard this a few hours ago on Nooz.com (not the most reputable of sites) - and reported as nothing more than a rumour.

Seems the bigger sites are picking it up now, but still, I'd wait to see more confirmation before I believed anything concrete.

That said - it's seemed inevitable for the last few months (especially after Kojima said - MGS on a dvd9? No worries. I don't need BluRay)

[Grimmjow]

isnt there like a year left untill the game is released, thats more then enough time for millions of PS3's to be sold. plus im tired of this subject getting brought up like every month

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hopefully the january issue of gamepro will straighten up some things. heres sum info KONAMI NEWS!!! (http://www.konami.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?nurl=control/News.vm&ctl_nbr=3810)

[Å®ÇTÌ¢ VåmÞ‡®Ë]

How many times is this material gonna be posted? Seriously? How many thread/topics have been devoted to "Is MGS4 comin' to 360?" in the past three months? Christ.
I agree with you


Again, this is nothing more than a rumor at this point, but the rationale seems to make sense and we are keeping our fingers crossed that this one turns out to have some actual bearing.

[Disgustipated]

I'd buy a 360 for MGS4. A PS3, not so much.

[if76]

What 2nd party or 1st party games does Sony actually make? Do they own part of the jak and daxter teams? What about Ratchet and Clank?

MS owns bungie, and rare. Nintendo makes tons of software. Sony got third party exclusives on PS1 because of the CD medium. They got third party exclusives on PS2 because of their massive user base. What do they have going for them now?

[eth3rton]

I would not be surprised at all if this happened

I'd be more Surprised if it didn't happen.......

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony pulled an 11th-hour exclusivity contract with a bucket or two of money.

At this point do they have trucks full of money to keep their Exclusives.... :confused:
i.e. Assassins Creed.......

[Hugenex]

What Blu-ray diode failure? Anyone care to explain.

[Sandman]

This has been a rumor since they announced MGS4 with the first trailer. I shook my head when I saw this headline on TeamXbox and I still don't get why it's spreading here and even to joystiq...this is old news, and I will believe it when I see the box on store shelves.

[KamaItachi]

This has been a rumor since they announced MGS4 with the first trailer. I shook my head when I saw this headline on TeamXbox and I still don't get why it's spreading here and even to joystiq...this is old news, and I will believe it when I see the box on store shelves.

It's not that I don't believe the rumour to be true. It's that the game is probably way too far off in the future before we'll get any real concrete announcement once and for all, but the speculation will get old fast. This is the second time in the last few months
we've seen the same story, giving the same reasons for thinking the game will go multiplatform.

Only this time it was said by a different guy.

[bapenguin]

I think for the most part, if it's not a first party title, or if the developer didn't get PAID for it to be an exclusive, it's going to be on both the PS3 and 360.

[Serapth]

There will never be a problem porting PS3 titles to 360. 360 has more capable hardware than PS3, particularly in the graphics dept.

But I can't say I'm excited. I've never like the Metal Gear series.


How do you know that? Do you have hands on experience with both the nVidia and ATI chipsets? Have you had experience with programming for a Cell processor, or 3x PPC cpus?

Or, the more likely question... are you just trolling?

[Serapth]

What Blu-ray diode failure? Anyone care to explain.


Its related to manufacturing, not released products. Basically, sony has had a hell of a time making BluRay devices due to certain parts of the reader mechanism. Its a big part of the reason the launch numbers were so pathetic.

As a result, third parties arent seeing a sufficent number of PS3's in the wild to justify making exclusives. Atleast, so far, that is the case.

[Bishop]

That would be awesome if MGS 4 comes to the 360.

[Switcher]

If this is to turn out to be factual, then the very LAST reason I would want a PS3 would vanish, and the the last reason I'd need to buy a 360 would appear.

[Mashidar]

If it comes, good for 360 MGS fans. If it does not, not a big deal. I mean alot of people get worked up over MGS games and while I enjoy it, it's never been that big of a deal to me if it's on the 360 or not. I want there to be at least one game that gives me a reason to buy a PS3 after all that's not a final fantasy title.

[Banacek]

I would of cared before MSG3. That game made me hate the franchise. One of these days I'll have to play it though, just so I can see the story.

[fable2323]

To all of the 360 fanboys, you only want to throw this in the Sony fanboys faces. I can hear it now...."Ha ha, we got your premier game and didn't have to spend $600 to play it".
Sony fanboys, relax. Even if the game comes to the 360, you will still be getting it on the PS3. Now if the game moved from PS3 to 360 only, then this would be something to talk about.
Do any of you remember the horrible port of MGS2 to the original Xbox? The game was buggy as hell. Unless the 360 gets the game day and date with the PS3 or contains some additional content, a port of a game doesnt mean shit! Ports dont sell consoles, exclusives do.

[Fartacus]

How do you know that? Do you have hands on experience with both the nVidia and ATI chipsets? Have you had experience with programming for a Cell processor, or 3x PPC cpus?

Or, the more likely question... are you just trolling?

I know that from experience, and no I'm not just trolling.

[Rafer]

Even if they were planning on releasing a 360 version some time after the PS3 version, wouldn't Konami only announce that after the PS3 version was released? Big games like San Andreas for XBOX, Resident Evil 4 for PS2, and Oblivion for PS3 were only announced after the original versions of those games were released.

[Kefkataran]

I would of cared before MSG3. That game made me hate the franchise. One of these days I'll have to play it though, just so I can see the story.

Seriously? Most people say that about 2, not 3. Either way.

We'll see about MGS4 coming to 360. Wouldn't be surprised, but it's obviously very much only rumor right now. Nothing to see here.

[Zeal]

A simultaneous release would be killer. I actually thought MGS3 was a pretty damn good game.

[IrishWhiskey]

This story shouldn't really come as a shock to anyone. Konami tends to use phrases like "MGS4 is a PS3 game" rather than "MGS4 is definately a PS3 exclusive". We've heard story after story about why Konami managment wants to port it to the system with a much bigger install base.

By the way whiners, the reason this keeps coming up as a story on all the major gaming sites isn't because the EvAv admins are biased, or that the entire gaming media is biased. Its because leaks and news events regarding a major franchise that is currently the game defining the PS3, is attention grabbing.

The best reaction to this news is acknowledging it as plausible, not going on a SDF tirade, but not taking it as gospel or foreseeing the death of the PS3 either.

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[fitbabits]

Of course MGS4 is coming to the Xbox 360. Konami aren't stupid (nor is Microsoft, for that matter) - they need to recoup the cost of development and at the same time enable the franchise to grow and be more accessible to a wider audience. It's been said many times before, but it bears repeating - there are going to be fewer and fewer third party exclusives as this (next) generation matures and the cost of developing 'AAA' titles soars.

No company sets out on a project with a view to losing money, and if Konami see the install base of the PS3 growing slower than they believe would be profitable for them and the MGS franchise, you can expect an announcement sooner rather than later of MGS4 coming to 360.

However, if the install base of the PS3 grows as Sony would like, expect a timed exclusive. Either way, MGS4 will see the light of day on Xbox 360.

One last thing - remember all the so-called Capcom Game Cube exclusives like Killer 7, Viewtiful Joe, etc.? Remember also how Capcom did an about-turn when they realized that the install base of the Game Cube was not large enough to merit the titles being exclusive to the Cube? I personally believe it's the same situation with Konami and MGS4.

[Banacek]

Seriously? Most people say that about 2, not 3. Either way.

We'll see about MGS4 coming to 360. Wouldn't be surprised, but it's obviously very much only rumor right now. Nothing to see here.

I know, I'm odd. For me the gameplay in MSG2 was fantastic. I enjoyed it so much I played through all those VR missions and Snake tales and all those side missions as well. I loathed the gameplay in MSG3, I just couldn't get into it. Saying that, I will play though it one day, just because I like the series.

[dena miscreant]

How do you know that?

Well, take what he says with a grain of salt, but I, too, have heard that any PS3 game can be ported to 360, but that PS3 couldn't handle the fancier games on 360, such as Gears of War.

http://www.itvidya.com/playstation_3_vs_xbox_360

EDIT:

On second thought, look elsewhere. It's a little to Microsofty.

[DigiWiz]

There will be no single platform games anymore in the future, it is not profitable. This ain't limited to the PS3 either, PC and 360 are suffering as well from this, you need an insane hit in order to make profit of the current development costs.

Take Oblivion as an example - it sold 800k 360 units. Forget the 1.7 million announcement shortly after release, that was PC and 360 together and the number was 'shipped to stores', not 'sold' - there hasn't been any announcement of breaking 1 million on either system or 2 million in total.

So 800k for PC and 800k for 360. 800k used to be 'somewhat successful' on the PC, and games like KotOR or Fable sold more than that on the Xbox, and they cost 1/4 to make than a 360 title.

The writing is on the wall - no more platform exclusives, and that also means the PS3 loses. Why? Because nobody is going to go through the extra cost associated with generating the higher resolution textures for the PS3 version when they can ship the 360 graphics to all three systems.

[Anthony W]

I would of cared before MSG3. That game made me hate the franchise. One of these days I'll have to play it though, just so I can see the story.

MSG2 made me quit.

[Jack B]

What Blu-ray diode failure? Anyone care to explain.

News Flash! We just went to war with Iraq... Oh, and the PS3 delays are attributed to Blu-Ray diode failures. Later in our program, we examine the probability North Korea will announce it's working on nuclear weapons, no matter how far fetched that may seem.

ps - Sorry, couldn't resist. The Blu-Ray diodes have been the reason given by Sony for the PS3 production problems.

[theguido]

A rumor? More like wishful thinking at this point. Anyone can start a bogus rumor with no source to back it up, this just happens to be one of those games that MS fanboys want but can't admit to wanting.

[Mr Flannery]

I could give a shit. This franchise peaked at Sons Of Liberty. I just want to deflate those puffed out chests of the fanbooyyeeezz.

[Jack B]

A rumor? More like wishful thinking at this point. Anyone can start a bogus rumor with no source to back it up, this just happens to be one of those games that MS fanboys want but can't admit to wanting.

Don't be so sure. That's what "they" said about Assassin's Creed too. And we all know how that turned out.

Also, this rumor wasn't starting by someone in a forum. It was by www.noooz.com, so you first have to start a website, they launch a rumor, which could damage your website's credibility. Or you could just start one, since you're "just anyone".

And I've always admitting to wanting to try MSG4. I'm not a huge stealth fan, but the series has always garnered decent reviews. Whether on the PS3 or both consoles I'd be interested in playing.

I'd like to give Final Fantasy XIII a try as well.

[Karmakin]

The days of the 3rd party exclusive...actually scratch that...the days of the 3rd party AAA exclusive are over. Development costs are too high for these games, and there won't be a run away installed base leader, more than likely. So to do it, you'll have to do it multi-platform.

Please note that I AM including the PC in this as well. You're going to see a lot of PC/360 development as well...

This is where Sony is going to suffer I think in what's really their best case scenario right now.

[51|RandoM]

I'll believe it when I see it. :p

[Captain Awesome]

This isn't surprising at all. Sony was claiming this with Assassin's Creed and this generation of consoles are turning out some rather over-blown development budgets. These companies are going to have to recoup somehow. Unless Sony digs deep in their pockets and find a way to keep Konami on their side.

But as it is with Sony's delivery of the PS3 and the unit base MS has built with the 360 already. I don't see why most companies would turn that down to sell more copies.

[Johan]

I think the majority of third-party exclusives this generation will most likely be whatever original titles pop up on the Virtual Console/Live Arcade/Sony Store. Development and distribution for original IP will be much cheaper using such a route; developers will face less financial exposure, can take some risks, and recoup their investment from just one platform.

BTW: I am totally digging Assault Heroes. What a fun title!

[absolut taco]

There will never be a problem porting PS3 titles to 360.
Right... :rolleyes: Do you really think PS3 games won't be too big for DVD9?

[Wolvie]

If this were true, my motivation to buy a PS3 would die.

[Kefkataran]

I know, I'm odd. For me the gameplay in MSG2 was fantastic. I enjoyed it so much I played through all those VR missions and Snake tales and all those side missions as well. I loathed the gameplay in MSG3, I just couldn't get into it. Saying that, I will play though it one day, just because I like the series.

Hey, everyone's due the right to their own opinion. :) You might want to try Subsistence if you couldn't get into the original MGS3. Switches the gameplay up quite a bit by opening camera options and all. Worth a shot at least, and it's definitely worth playing through MGS3 just for the story. Great game for that.

I could give a shit. This franchise peaked at Sons Of Liberty. I just want to deflate those puffed out chests of the fanbooyyeeezz.

So... one game ago? Again, you're very much an oddity. Most people disliekd Sons of Liberty but loved Snake Eater. I happen to like both quite a bit, but whatevs.

Don't be so sure. That's what "they" said about Assassin's Creed too. And we all know how that turned out.

Huh? You're saying we should sooner believe the rumors than be skeptical of them? And no one said that about Assassin's Creed except maybe the most hardcore of Sony fanboys. The fact that Assassin's Creed was multi-platform was one of the worst-kept secrets in gaming news of 2006. The internet more or less breathed a sigh of relief for it being over when Ubisoft finally owned up to the fact that the game was coming to 360.

[Siraris]

Don't be so sure. That's what "they" said about Assassin's Creed too. And we all know how that turned out.

Also, this rumor wasn't starting by someone in a forum. It was by www.noooz.com, so you first have to start a website, they launch a rumor, which could damage your website's credibility. Or you could just start one, since you're "just anyone".

And I've always admitting to wanting to try MSG4. I'm not a huge stealth fan, but the series has always garnered decent reviews. Whether on the PS3 or both consoles I'd be interested in playing.

I'd like to give Final Fantasy XIII a try as well.

MGS4 isn't really about stealth BTW. The whole theme is nowhere to hide, and it's going to have a different experience than any of the other MGS'.

[Siraris]

Huh? You're saying we should sooner believe the rumors than be skeptical of them? And no one said that about Assassin's Creed except maybe the most hardcore of Sony fanboys. The fact that Assassin's Creed was multi-platform was one of the worst-kept secrets in gaming news of 2006. The internet more or less breathed a sigh of relief for it being over when Ubisoft finally owned up to the fact that the game was coming to 360.

Actually, a friend of mine who did some work on AC told me (and another big story confirmed what he said) that Ubisoft approached Sony about making Assassins exclusive to PS3, but didn't get any response from SCEJ (who had the make the decisions at that time) so they instead decided to make it multi-platform.

[IrishWhiskey]

a friend of mine who did some work on AC told me (and another big story confirmed what he said) that Ubisoft approached Sony about making Assassins exclusive to PS3, but didn't get any response from SCEJ

I don't know about your friend, but I heard that same story in a gaming publication (can't remember which one). It seems to be a pattern with a few games including, most importantly, the PS3s online features.

That is to say, Sony US and Europe had drawn up plans for a Live-killer PS3 online system over three years ago. However there efforts were shut down by SCEJ who didn't feel that a single unified online network system was critical. The features that exist now were rapidly developed after the 2005 E3.


But don't take that the wrong way to mean that Assassins Creed would have been PS3 exclusive if Sony had only checked their messages. The 2006 E3 conference, the 360 lead and the PS3 price, shortage and delays all happened after that initial talk about exclusivity. Ubisoft has been developing a strong relationship with the 360 over the past year, with a few developers from the company praising it as easier to develop for. Given all the many reasons given before about why multiplatform titles will increase, we should assume that Assassins Creed would eventually have been out for both systems no matter what.


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[Jack B]

MGS4 isn't really about stealth BTW. The whole theme is nowhere to hide, and it's going to have a different experience than any of the other MGS'.

Thanks. Sounds good. I've enjoyed the trailers I've seen. Looking forward to seeing more in the coming months.

[Jack B]

Huh? You're saying we should sooner believe the rumors than be skeptical of them? And no one said that about Assassin's Creed except maybe the most hardcore of Sony fanboys. The fact that Assassin's Creed was multi-platform was one of the worst-kept secrets in gaming news of 2006. The internet more or less breathed a sigh of relief for it being over when Ubisoft finally owned up to the fact that the game was coming to 360.

I dream of the day you quote a post of mine, that doesn't involve you busting my balls...

I never said, we should or had to believe it. I was responding to a post saying it wasn't possible. I posted, that it was possible and it wasn't "just anyone" posting a rumor. It was from a website, not a forum.

[Sense Field]

u know whats sad? I don't even care about this series anymore :(

[antoniogaud]

Because nobody is going to go through the extra cost associated with generating the higher resolution textures for the PS3 version when they can ship the 360 graphics to all three systems.

You mean lower resolution textures, right? At least that has been my experience with my PS3...

[archon]

If this was news that was for sure known before the PS3 was released, the PS3 would be dead on arrival. The only power franchise they'll have exclusive at that point would be the J-RPGs like Final Fantasy and actually that's about it now that Dragon Quest is going DS. They would still have fantastic games by the ICO team and God of War team (in a few years at least), but that's it.

[Kefkataran]

Actually, a friend of mine who did some work on AC told me (and another big story confirmed what he said) that Ubisoft approached Sony about making Assassins exclusive to PS3, but didn't get any response from SCEJ (who had the make the decisions at that time) so they instead decided to make it multi-platform.

I believe it, but only because Sony has been notorious this go-round for not being very aggresive in getting and keeping exclusives. Could be their biggest downfall, unfortunately.

I dream of the day you quote a post of mine, that doesn't involve you busting my balls...

They happen. You ignore them. Don't be so melodramatic, and don't take these things so personally. You just said something that seemed absurd, so I responded.

I never said, we should or had to believe it. I was responding to a post saying it wasn't possible. I posted, that it was possible and it wasn't "just anyone" posting a rumor. It was from a website, not a forum.

That doesn't give it any more validity, especially since it's a site that I think most of the people in this discussion haven't even heard of.

[Jack B]

They happen. You ignore them.

Really? Find one. I'll match you post for post.

Don't be so melodramatic, and don't take these things so personally. You just said something that seemed absurd, so I responded.

Oh, thank you for clearing that up. I'll wait patiently for your next helpful post.

[Kefkataran]

Oh, thank you for clearing that up. I'll wait patiently for your next helpful post.

Dude, seriously. I'm soooooo sorry for asking for clarification on something that sounded silly how I was reading it. You must really fucking hate talking.

God, I am not getting into your crazy, over-paranoid, "YOU HAVE AN AGENDA AGAINST ME!!" drama again. I think you're a great poster who often has interesting points, man. That doesn't mean I won't respond to the stuff I disagree with with, well, disagreement. I don't see anything wrong with that, and it's not meant as disrespect at all. If you can't see that, I apologize.

[Borys]

Posting retarded wishes from Team Xbox as "news"?

I'll eat my hat if it happens.

[Jack B]

Dude, seriously. I'm soooooo sorry for asking for clarification on something that sounded silly how I was reading it. You must really fucking hate talking.

No you're not.

[Kefkataran]

Read edit to above post.

Posting retarded wishes from Team Xbox as "news"?

I'll eat my hat if it happens.

Somebody write this stuff down. Maybe Borys won't pull a Flinxz and will actually get us the video. :p

[Zeal]

Yeah, I mean, who the hell actually listens to TeamXbox. They were only the first to have ANY Halo 2 content on the internet, have an indisputable track record on news and exclusives, and most of the staff is currently employed with Microsoft.

Man, let me delete them from my bookmarks.

Oh wait, I work there.

[Kefkataran]

Oh wait, I work there.

Figures.

Hope you know I'm counting on your ass to get me a job out of college. WHERE'S THE HOOK-UP, ZEAL?

[Zeal]

Only if I get to work at Toybane.

[Kefkataran]

Shit, we'll work something out. Kelegacy keeps raving about you, so he'll be down.

[Zeal]

I was only kidding, but I appreciate the offer. I hardly have time to do anything anymore, let alone write more editorials.

But back on topic;

There's really no doubt that MGS4 was intended as a multiplatform release all along. I must admit that I was rather disappointed in the latest gameplay footage, mostly because the graphics were noticeably downgraded from the typical smoke-and-mirrors announcement trailer bullshit.

[Exodus]

I'm stupid :\

what does sdf stand for?
sony defence force?

[Kem0sabe]

It still wont make any difference on the 360 console sales. Not in Japan where the Wii and the PS3 will dominate nor in North America, where the Xbox 360 has a firm hold. Europe on the other hand... doesn't give a shit about MGS4 :p

[Gorvi]

Yeah, I mean, who the hell actually listens to TeamXbox. They were only the first to have ANY Halo 2 content on the internet, have an indisputable track record on news and exclusives, and most of the staff is currently employed with Microsoft.

Man, let me delete them from my bookmarks.

Oh wait, I work there.

So, you're using this as evidence of credibility when they post a rumor that would at the same time benefit MS and be a substantial blow to Sony? Is there any reason to post this story other than absolute FUD? Unless there's some acutal info (which there is none) that's any newer than the EGM rumors section, this is just another useless fanboy news topic.

[HumpYourWay]

What is the big fuss, nintendo furrys? MGS1 was released on GameCube. MGS2 was released on XBox1. MGS3 was released only on PS2 because GC and XBox were crap. So MGS4 on X360? SOunds plausible...

[Morratut]

This would be a major coup for MS if the game did come to the 360. It is a rumour that just won't die though. I wouldn't be too suprised though if it was announced.

Personally i'm not bothered MGS. I would rather have DMC 4 from the PS3 software library.

[DarkDaY]

i could care less if its true, if it is, it will then be great on both platforms.

Gorvi, the thread was going great, only fanboy i saw was you.
i was wondering where you were.

my thoughts, it will go multi, and for the obvious reasons, the execs above have the power and the pressure to spread it across for the $$.
but i dont think we will see any formal announcements untill next year.
the blow would be too large for sony, and i wouldnt be surprised if it was just a timed exclusive, also a timed announcement.
till then, back to gears, viva, zelda, and the excitement of graw 2, mass effect, bioshock, and too many more to mention.

[Kefkataran]

Gorvi, the thread was going great, only fanboy i saw was you.
i was wondering where you were.


Questioning the validity of this rumor is far from making Gorvi a fanboy.

[DarkDaY]

not questioning, that part i am all about, the way he attacks it from "worthless faboy news", and what not, he wasnt questioning, he was jumping to the other extreme stating not what he thought, but what he knows as it to be< which i believe to be opinion.

siaris loves sony, but his comments add to it, and i happily keep reading, gorvi, delrails me everytime.
No biggie i guess, i was just commenting.

im book marking borys's post.

If it was worthless fanboy news then i guess im a worthless fanboy, cause i read every post. shrugs,

to me thats what he is saying, that we all are.
not, is it real? and discuss.

[Gorvi]

i could care less if its true, if it is, it will then be great on both platforms.

Gorvi, the thread was going great, only fanboy i saw was you.
i was wondering where you were.

my thoughts, it will go multi, and for the obvious reasons, the execs above have the power and the pressure to spread it across for the $$.
but i dont think we will see any formal announcements untill next year.
the blow would be too large for sony, and i wouldnt be surprised if it was just a timed exclusive, also a timed announcement.
till then, back to gears, viva, zelda, and the excitement of graw 2, mass effect, bioshock, and too many more to mention.

If questioning unsubstantiated rumors being posted as news makes me a fanboy, them I guess the label fits. The blind Sony hate that seems to bleed from so many news stories these days makes it difficult to take an objective view on many of these things when you don't respond to every story with the same sheeplike "looks good for MS, Sony is teh doomed, dumb PS3" mentality.

The simple fact that the story uses the diode shortage as it's basis is flawed. For a game that's not slated for release for another year (if not more knowing Kojima), that's a pretty shaky foundation for MGS4 going multiplatform.

[Gorvi]

not questioning, that part i am all about, the way he attacks it from "worthless faboy news", and what not, he wasnt questioning, he was jumping to the other extreme stating not what he thought, but what he knows as it to be< which i believe to be opinion.

siaris loves sony, but his comments add to it, and i happily keep reading, gorvi, delrails me everytime.
No biggie i guess, i was just commenting.

im book marking borys's post.

If it was worthless fanboy news then i guess im a worthless fanboy, cause i read every post. shrugs,

to me thats what he is saying, that we all are.
not, is it real? and discuss.

My post wasn't meant as a personal attack against anyone. I called it 'worthless fanboy news' because it's basically ego stroking for people that want to see one console manufacturer go down while seeing the other fail. That's a fanboy mentality if you ask me. Normal responses to a story like this are generally made through rose tinted glasses, not looking at the entire picture. Could MGS4 come to the 360 the same way MGS2 : Substance came to the original XBOX? Sure, I don't see how that's out of the realm of possibility. Is this story doing anything more than restating a rumor that hasn't seen any actual backing since it's inception? Pretty much.

[Sonic Wang]

Would be nice if it were on 360, but i'm in no rush for another MGS (if it's anything like the 3rd, i wont bother). I just hope this leads to other devs bringing PS3 games to the 360... well one PS3 game at least, Devil May Cry 4. One of the only games which would have me consider getting a PS3 (but that consideration quickly disappears when i remember the price tag and my sanity). The other game may be God of War 3 (if GoW2 lives up to expectations).

what does sdf stand for?

Super Dimensional Fortress

[DarkDaY]

My post wasn't meant as a personal attack against anyone. I called it 'worthless fanboy news' because it's basically ego stroking for people that want to see one console manufacturer go down while seeing the other fail. That's a fanboy mentality if you ask me. Normal responses to a story like this are generally made through rose tinted glasses, not looking at the entire picture. Could MGS4 come to the 360 the same way MGS2 : Substance came to the original XBOX? Sure, I don't see how that's out of the realm of possibility. Is this story doing anything more than restating a rumor that hasn't seen any actual backing since it's inception? Pretty much.

aight. fair enough, good points.

maybe not front page news, but, either way it dosent bother me.

i guess my point is you seem to be offended by it, where as someone who is totally neutral would just shrug, smile and say to themself, meh, its the interweb.
though, i do find it mildly interesting, as one of my clients from a certain very very large news group and i where just talking about it today, and some rumblings from execs that want multi platform for this game and many others as due to the high cost/user base/ profit.
and in the end, hideo is not an artist, as he has stated many many times,
he creates games for a large company that exsists for the all mighty $.

in time well see,
i still think if it is the case, then it is already being looked at, or worked on, but hush hush as a sony paid timed exclisive or announcement.
and if that is the case , sony imo should throw as much money at it as they can,
they need it.
I would rather play it on my 360 were that the case, but, i think it would kinda suck for me as its one of my (as of now) few ps3 reasons.

[Reanimated]

Cool, hopefully they add some extra content to the 360 version.

[Johan]

Why did I read this? :confused:

[Tohoya]

You guys are missing the point.

The people who buy more than 2 consoles are exceedingly rare, and given the price hikes this generation we may surmise that they're getting rarer. Even if the xbox 360 stopped selling completely after the holidays, and had only 10 million units, it would still be worth it to Konami to port the game because that's 9 million + who didn't have access to the game before that do now. As long as Microsoft has a decent installed base, it will be a no brainer to port the games to an xbox.

[51|RandoM]

Cool, hopefully they add some extra content to the 360 version.


...well you're guaranteed to get Achievements with a 360 version.

;)

[fitbabits]

...well you're guaranteed to get Achievements with a 360 version.

;)
I wonder what happened with Sony's 'entitlements' idea?

[Fartacus]

Right... :rolleyes: Do you really think PS3 games won't be too big for DVD9?

That's a good point, some of them will be too big for DVD9. Mostly because of tons of FMV though, not games assets. And those few that are too big because of game assets (I doubt it will be many) can be compressed or shipped on multiple DVDs.

[Serapth]

I wonder what happened with Sony's 'entitlements' idea?

I think event hey realized it was an obvious ripoff and axed it.

Not to mention, they dont have the centralized network like live does, so they probrably couldnt do it anyways.

[fitbabits]

I think event hey realized it was an obvious ripoff and axed it.

Not to mention, they dont have the centralized network like live does, so they probrably couldnt do it anyways.
Entitlements (the name) was such a fantastically bad idea, though. I'm surprised they didn't stick with it.

[Gorvi]

Entitlements (the name) was such a fantastically bad idea, though. I'm surprised they didn't stick with it.

Honestly, I'm happy they didn't go with it. I'm not a big fan of the concept behind achievements (adding longevity to games that probably don't deserve it).

[fitbabits]

Honestly, I'm happy they didn't go with it. I'm not a big fan of the concept behind achievements (adding longevity to games that probably don't deserve it).
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's artificially lengthening some games which really don't deserve to be played beyond the end credits. That said, I think some of the blame for that must be placed with the developers for not being as creative as they could be.

[Gorvi]

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's artificially lengthening some games which really don't deserve to be played beyond the end credits. That said, I think some of the blame for that must be placed with the developers for not being as creative as they could be.

Absolutely. I think it was actually a great marketing idea on MS's part to add them as it put interest in many average games when the 360 initially launched. Since the 360 now has a real library to draw from, though, they seem a bit silly now.

[fitbabits]

Absolutely. I think it was actually a great marketing idea on MS's part to add them as it put interest in many average games when the 360 initially launched. Since the 360 now has a real library to draw from, though, they seem a bit silly now.
Aye, too true.

Some canny developer needs to step up and really push the boat out where Achievements are concerned.

Here's a thought - do you think that Achievements may be a double-edged sword? Meaning, are people possibly intimidated by others with huge Gamer Scores and are therefore disinclined to buy an Xbox 360 now because they know they'll be starting off at the very bottom of the Achievement ladder?

[Gorvi]

Aye, too true.

Some canny developer needs to step up and really push the boat out where Achievements are concerned.

Here's a thought - do you think that Achievements may be a double-edged sword? Meaning, are people possibly intimidated by others with huge Gamer Scores and are therefore disinclined to buy an Xbox 360 now because they know they'll be starting off at the very bottom of the Achievement ladder?

Bah, if someone's that intimidated by things, I think Achievements would be the least of their worries on LIVE. I'd say your average joe gamer doesn't even know Achievements exist. If someone doesn't buy a 360 because of that, it's really their loss.

[fitbabits]

Bah, if someone's that intimidated by things, I think Achievements would be the least of their worries on LIVE. I'd say your average joe gamer doesn't even know Achievements exist. If someone doesn't buy a 360 because of that, it's really their loss.
Oh, I agree absolutely. I was just floating the notion.

[Johan]

...are people possibly intimidated by others with huge Gamer Scores and are therefore disinclined to buy an Xbox 360 now because they know they'll be starting off at the very bottom of the Achievement ladder?

Actually, I think that may very well be the case for some. Think about it...some people are disinclined to buy a game that has been out too long because they don't want to get pwn3d by a multiplayer community which has learned the ins and outs of the game, its maps, weapon combos, etc., etc..

I think that might be a factor for some. Online leaderboards and competitiveness encourage some and fire them up, but for others, it's a discouragement and a stress.

Of course, some games get around this with unranked multiplayer options. That doesn't solve the problem of being intimidated by overall Achievement numbers, if you're competitive.

*I have never cared about rank or achievements, myself*

[Gorvi]

Actually, I think that may very well be the case for some. Think about it...some people are disinclined to buy a game that has been out too long because they don't want to get pwn3d by a multiplayer community which has learned the ins and outs of the game, its maps, weapon combos, etc., etc..

I think that might be a factor for some. Online leaderboards and competitiveness encourage some and fire them up, but for others, it's a discouragement and a stress.

Of course, some games get around this with unranked multiplayer options. That doesn't solve the problem of being intimidated by overall Achievement numbers, if you're competitive.

*I have never cared about rank or achievements, myself*

I do agree with that though. Any game that I know that I'd plan on playing online I'd want to buy as close to release as possible to try to avoid falling behind in terms of experience and familiarity.

[wezlypipz]

More reasons not to buy a PS3. Final Fantasy may be ported too at this rate.

[fitbabits]

More reasons not to buy a PS3. Final Fantasy may be ported too at this rate.
If that were to happen, the world would simply quit spinning on it axis.

[Gorvi]

More reasons not to buy a PS3. Final Fantasy may be ported too at this rate.

The chances of that happening are slim and none. I'd put the chances of that happening around the chances that the 360 will sell more in Japan than in the US.

[Johan]

More reasons not to buy a PS3. Final Fantasy may be ported too at this rate.

If that happened, I literally think there would be a collective scream of anguish from those who favor Sony consoles/hardware. Wow...that would be such a shocking idea.

All the 360 got in the FF arena is a crappy port of FFXI, years after it lost the interest of most gamers...;)

Wanna see a thread go to absolute crap really quickly? Start one on a rumor that FF XIII will be on the 360 as well as the PS3...;)

I would PAY to have popcorn and a good seat for that one! :D

[Dag-Sabot]

A simultaneous release would be killer.-I love it when that happens. But you really have to be in tune with your partner :)
The news seems like conjecture. I really liked MGS3, and I wish they'd port that to the 360.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

Dude, seriously. I'm soooooo sorry for asking for clarification on something that sounded silly how I was reading it. You must really fucking hate talking.

God, I am not getting into your crazy, over-paranoid, "YOU HAVE AN AGENDA AGAINST ME!!" drama again. I think you're a great poster who often has interesting points, man. That doesn't mean I won't respond to the stuff I disagree with with, well, disagreement. I don't see anything wrong with that, and it's not meant as disrespect at all. If you can't see that, I apologize.


Dang, you really are emo.


Just kidding Keft - hugs! :D

[Johan]

-I love it when that happens. But you really have to be in tune with your partner :)

THAT was a clever connection and humorous as well! :D

[absolut taco]

More reasons not to buy a PS3. Final Fantasy may be ported too at this rate.
What goddamned rate? this is a rumor!

[absolut taco]

That's a good point, some of them will be too big for DVD9. Mostly because of tons of FMV though, not games assets. And those few that are too big because of game assets (I doubt it will be many) can be compressed or shipped on multiple DVDs.
The only scenario where it would be hard to port is if you have a sandbox style game (can't really do disc swapping, huh?) and the models, world, textures, sound add up to more than a DVD9. But then you can require a hard drive and use that to double your potential storage. Too bad you have to delete all your downloaded demos and videos.

[Fartacus]

The only scenario where it would be hard to port is if you have a sandbox style game (can't really do disc swapping, huh?) and the models, world, textures, sound add up to more than a DVD9. But then you can require a hard drive and use that to double your potential storage. Too bad you have to delete all your downloaded demos and videos.

Yeah I was thinking about that a bit. The only way that would be viable would be with a bigger HD. There was just under 13GB available on my 20GB drive out of the box.

I wonder what MS's position on requiring the HDDVD add-on for FMV in games would be? If it was kosher, you could ship the game on 1 DVD and all the FMV on an HDDVD, and just skip cinematics or playback a highly compressed/low res cinematic on systems with no HDDVD add-on. Also, that wouldn't require disc swapping because you could have both discs loaded at the same time.

[Johan]

What goddamned rate? this is a rumor!

Yes....but rumors are fun. :D

Rumors on EvAv are like a bear sticking its hand in a bee hive...boy, does it stir stuff up!

[Zeal]

I wonder what MS's position on requiring the HDDVD add-on for FMV in games would be? If it was kosher, you could ship the game on 1 DVD and all the FMV on an HDDVD

What. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

[Fartacus]

What. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

What exactly is dumb about it? FMV is unimportant to most games, but many games (particularly Japanese RPGs) include craploads of it. Gamers (like me) who don't give a crap about it could skip out on the HDDVD add-on. Those gamers who do care about it could pay the $200 for the add-on and get their HD FMV crap in the games.