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12-17-2006, 06:10 AM
From 4 Color Rebellion (http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/12/16/new-dq-ix-video/) :

SquareEnix just placed a new video on the Dragon Quest website, and the game looks gorgeous!

High Bandwidth Video (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dragonquest/20th/DQ9PVL.html)

Low Bandwith Video (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dragonquest/20th/DQ9PVS.html)

Looking pretty good for DS game. Graphically at least, we shouldn't have anything to worry about...

Blade
12-17-2006, 07:00 AM
It looks good overall.

EvilBob46
12-17-2006, 07:02 AM
I love it. Will buy for sure (if it doesn't suck, which I don't anticipate it will).

Snarboo
12-17-2006, 07:02 AM
I'm not a huge fan of JRPGs and this still caught my eye. It's interesting to say the least. I just hope, as a "side story" to the DQ series, that it can compare.

Heretic Machine
12-17-2006, 07:04 AM
Notice how your appearance is altered by different equipment? I'm liking that.

mkelehan
12-17-2006, 07:15 AM
I'm not a huge fan of JRPGs and this still caught my eye. It's interesting to say the least. I just hope, as a "side story" to the DQ series, that it can compare.
SE made sure to mention that this isn't a side story, but is the proper ninth installment in the numbered series.

BloodPack
12-17-2006, 07:29 AM
Looks like I am gonna buy my first Dragon Quest game

resikel
12-17-2006, 07:54 AM
This is a must buy for me.

MaiXu
12-17-2006, 08:19 AM
Don Quixote 9?!

Oh.

NoName
12-17-2006, 08:20 AM
Awesome. I can't wait for this to hit the US, though probably not till 2008.

BlackPete
12-17-2006, 09:10 AM
Wow that's better looking than I expected. I definitely cannot wait for this game to ship yesterday!

Vandenh
12-17-2006, 09:27 AM
SE has made a good decision bringing this to DS. I will sell silly amounts AND it is less work to make AND we get to play it on the road (the only place where I play JRPGs BTW).

SMES
12-17-2006, 10:25 AM
Hmmm... damn, I gave away my DS just a few months ago. Guess I'll be buying a new one. I hope that it still focuses on the single player aspect, with the multi-player a bonus. For example, I hope it is more like Secret of Mana than Crystal Chronicals. I only have a couple friends with DSs, and I dont want to rely on them to get the most out of a dragon quest game.

noxa
12-17-2006, 10:29 AM
Looks similar to, but better than, the FFIII remake and that's a good thing. I've been enjoying playing it on the go, and if this is anything as good I'll find myself showing up to things ultra early so that I have an excuse to play it :)

Stormeh
12-17-2006, 11:00 AM
I too have been playing FFIII DS and I've been enjoying the hell out of it. I've only been a DS owner for a short while--first I played through Advance Wars, which was awesome. Then I tried to get into FF Tactics Advance for GBA, but for some reason, it just didn't hook me. Now I've finally landed on FFIII and it's good times.

I hate to say it, but I think I've logged more time on my DS than I have on my 360 in the last couple months since I've had it. =/

Winterwolves
12-17-2006, 11:34 AM
Notice how your appearance is altered by different equipment? I'm liking that.

I wish I hadn't even seen this. My level of hype for this went form about a 7.2 to about an 11.

I am amazed at how polished the game looks, apparently this has been in development for some time. If they pull this game off, it could change everything about handhelds as we know it. I am simply stunned.

Kelegacy
12-17-2006, 11:34 AM
Looks "good" for a DS game (polygonal DS games look crude to me), but to say I'm disappointed this is being developed for the DS and not a console would be a massive understatement.

But people already know how I feel.

EL CABONG
12-17-2006, 11:38 AM
Wow. I may have to buy a DS again. I sold mine about a year ago.
This game looks freaking sweet.

I wish it was a console game instead it would save me the trouble of buying or borrowing a ds.

Predation
12-17-2006, 11:41 AM
I might just have to buy a DS for this game...

That console is getting to have a pretty robust RPG library

Siraris
12-17-2006, 11:45 AM
Notice how your appearance is altered by different equipment? I'm liking that.

EVERY game should have this. It would be so cool. One of my favorite moments in video game history was when you turned into the Light Warriors in FF1. Just something about your character changing it's appearance is cool to me.

EternalGamer
12-17-2006, 12:29 PM
Looks "good" for a DS game (polygonal DS games look crude to me), but to say I'm disappointed this is being developed for the DS and not a console would be a massive understatement.

But people already know how I feel.

That's just cause you are graphics whore, hypocrite. :p It seems that you just transferred your grumpness. Now instead of being grumpy about the quality of 360 games, you are being grumpy about good traditional style games.

I'm very happy about this news. The game looks great and has a great artstyle, I don't care how many geometric shapes it is calculating on the fly. Also, online co-op play is awesome.

Just think Kel, if you get over your sourpuss stage, we could actually play online together. I can see many a lunch breaks spent playing this game online since I can just take my DS with me to work and find a wifi spot. And that is awesome.

Winterwolves
12-17-2006, 12:35 PM
EVERY game should have this. It would be so cool. One of my favorite moments in video game history was when you turned into the Light Warriors in FF1. Just something about your character changing it's appearance is cool to me.


You got that right... I thought Diablo 2 set the standard on this shit. When you get new equipment it should be reflected in your character.

I have been really disappointed with every rpg after D2 that didn't utilize that to some extent. DQIX has potential. My fever has resided I am back down to a 9.3 level of hype again.

Siraris
12-17-2006, 12:54 PM
You got that right... I thought Diablo 2 set the standard on this shit. When you get new equipment it should be reflected in your character.

I have been really disappointed with every rpg after D2 that didn't utilize that to some extent. DQIX has potential. My fever has resided I am back down to a 9.3 level of hype again.

Problem is, the amount of work to design all the items. For a game on a system like PS3/360 it could take an entire art team months just to design and created all the different items.

Chameleo
12-17-2006, 01:35 PM
i wonder if sony's choked about this title being made on the DS.

DQ is the biggest RPG franchise in Japan....

homunculus
12-17-2006, 01:38 PM
I am officially stoked. I will be disappointed, however, if it turns out to be a dungeon crawl. I doubt it will be, but, you know, just saying. I wanted FFIII, but I like the story-driven FF games and not the technical-driven ones. Contact, while good in parts, underwhelmed me overall (specifically in the actual gameplay department, felt just like a dull old RPG). Looks like this'll fix my hankering for a good RPG.

Sandman
12-17-2006, 01:50 PM
I wish I knew Japaneese so I could import this game when it comes out there instead of waiting another year to play it here.

Kelegacy
12-17-2006, 01:50 PM
That's just cause you are graphics whore, hypocrite. :p It seems that you just transferred your grumpness. Now instead of being grumpy about the quality of 360 games, you are being grumpy about good traditional style games.

I'm very happy about this news. The game looks great and has a great artstyle, I don't care how many geometric shapes it is calculating on the fly. Also, online co-op play is awesome.

Just think Kel, if you get over your sourpuss stage, we could actually play online together. I can see many a lunch breaks spent playing this game online since I can just take my DS with me to work and find a wifi spot. And that is awesome.

I played, beat, and loved DQ VIII. This, to me, is a step backwards. I'm not a graphics whore, I just don't want my beloved franchises disrupted by winding up on the 3 inch screens of portables. Yay.

Sharp-edged polygonal characters is so PS1.

Rirath
12-17-2006, 02:42 PM
Looks great, a must have. And Kel... seriously man, issues.
It's a portable game that just happens to look dang good.

Kelegacy
12-17-2006, 03:02 PM
Looks great, a must have. And Kel... seriously man, issues.
It's a portable game that just happens to look dang good.
I hope they make Final Fantasy XIV a GBA exclusive. Or maybe make it under 50mb and put it on XBLA for 1600 MS points.

Skyelan
12-17-2006, 03:08 PM
And here I was thinking how Dragon Quest was world-renowned because of its excellent gameplay and epic scope. I mean, it used sprites for 7 out of 8 of the main games, so clearly something like graphics wouldn't matter to the fans.

Boy was I naive. :D

Of course, DQ8 wasn't even all that amazing in graphic power, it was almost all style and size of world that was eye popping, which we already know the DS can handle quite a high amount of artistic freedom. But that's just me and my logic again.

DOWN WITH SQUARE ENIX, RUINING OUR PRECIOUS FRANCHISES BY DARING TO DOWNGRADE THE GRAPHICS!

Game looks great by the way. I love me some mulitiplayer RPG goodness.

Kelegacy
12-17-2006, 03:31 PM
That's just cause you are graphics whore, hypocrite. :p It seems that you just transferred your grumpness. Now instead of being grumpy about the quality of 360 games, you are being grumpy about good traditional style games.

I'm very happy about this news. The game looks great and has a great artstyle, I don't care how many geometric shapes it is calculating on the fly. Also, online co-op play is awesome.

Just think Kel, if you get over your sourpuss stage, we could actually play online together. I can see many a lunch breaks spent playing this game online since I can just take my DS with me to work and find a wifi spot. And that is awesome.

I think you're being very unfair lately. When we agree on the things we despise (the 360 library for starters, back when) things are kosher. But when I say something bad about the Wii, Nintendo or something else you enjoy, you think I'm being foolish.

Basically I have no party affiliations and am an equal opportunity complainer. People should take note I don't even talk about the PS3 anymore; it's had so shitty a launch and seems more like a practical joke right now that it's not even worthy of attention.

EternalGamer
12-17-2006, 05:10 PM
I was sort of just teasing you. But I do find it a bit funny how much you reamed people for not wanting to play Okami because it wasn't in HD and yet you are disappointed with DQ IX just because it is on a less powerful system. It's not like they haven't done this before. Dragon Quest VII was released on the PS1 after the PS2 was already out, I believe. They are just looking for a large installment base. The comparison to Final Fantasy is pretty unmerited because Dragon Quest has never relied on cutting edge FMV or a robust graphical engine for its appeal. The fact that it is an awesome new Dragon Quest game that you can take to work with you and play 4 player co-op anywhere there is a Wifi spot should be more than enough to make up for the fact that it isn't on a TV screen.

And I don't have any problem with you complaining about any company/product as long as it is merited. But when we disagree on whether or not it is merited, I'll be sure to let you know. You've been poo-poo-ing on the DS quite a bit lately and it's having a fucking phenomenal year. Elite Beat Agents and Yoshi's Island are awesome and I can't wait to play FF3, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin and (four player) Children of Mana come Christmas.

Also, you suck for still not having yet played EBA, Zelda, and Viva Pinata, three of the best games all year. :p

Lizard Dude
12-17-2006, 05:42 PM
That's how trailers are DONE.
Love the music and outrageous pans/reveals.

KamaItachi
12-17-2006, 05:50 PM
I'm just wondering how the multiplayer is going to be implemented in this. Will the whole game be co-op or will that be a separate mode entirely?

Kelegacy
12-17-2006, 06:00 PM
I was sort of just teasing you. But I do find it a bit funny how much you reamed people for not wanting to play Okami because it wasn't in HD and yet you are disappointed with DQ IX just because it is on a less powerful system. It's not like they haven't done this before. Dragon Quest VII was released on the PS1 after the PS2 was already out, I believe. They are just looking for a large installment base. The comparison to Final Fantasy is pretty unmerited because Dragon Quest has never relied on cutting edge FMV or a robust graphical engine for its appeal. The fact that it is an awesome new Dragon Quest game that you can take to work with you and play 4 player co-op anywhere there is a Wifi spot should be more than enough to make up for the fact that it isn't on a TV screen.

And I don't have any problem with you complaining about any company/product as long as it is merited. But when we disagree on whether or not it is merited, I'll be sure to let you know. You've been poo-poo-ing on the DS quite a bit lately and it's having a fucking phenomenal year. Elite Beat Agents and Yoshi's Island are awesome and I can't wait to play FF3, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin and (four player) Children of Mana come Christmas.

Also, you suck for still not having yet played EBA, Zelda, and Viva Pinata, three of the best games all year. :p

I'm only upset because the next entry in the series isn't on a console. Nothing against the DS, but I just want to be able to play the game on a bigger screen, instead of staring down at my lap. The DS may be portable, but I don't take it outside of my house. If I could hook it up to my tv and play, I'd do that.

I know it's petty in others' eyes, but it still bothers me. I'd buy a Wii or a PS3 to play DQ IX. The fact that I already own a DS and wouldn't have to buy a new console means little to me. I'm just not as interested in the handhelds, even though I know there are good games on them (and I own many of them). Being a portable gamer and being a console gamer definitely are different things. And as I said in another thread, which made Kefkataran freak out: I probably won't buy DQ IX on the DS, at least not right away. On the consoles though, probably first in line.

I can't explain it. Whether my boycott is out of disinterest or anger, it really doesn't matter. I still don't own FFIII, and I'm a huge fan of the series. I just don't play handhelds--hell, I have PHOENIX WRIGHT still in the shrink wrap when I bought it in July.

I think I'm just in a rut. Yeah, I've been a grump lately (though the 360 has avoided my anger) and I don't know why. I think I've lost a bit of interest in gaming and I should just slink away and recharge quietly. I really don't post as much anymore, unless it's when I'm bored and I want to vent. My post quality has gone down; it's something I'm consciously aware of. Something is frustrating me though I don't know what exactly. But little things like DQ IX being DS-only just fuel my inner forges.

Okay, I'm off. I have I Am Legend open and I need to get back to the couch.

Camel
12-17-2006, 06:06 PM
I hope they make Final Fantasy XIV a GBA exclusive. Or maybe make it under 50mb and put it on XBLA for 1600 MS points.
I think that is a great way to put it. Am I excited to be getting yet another quality game for the DS? Hell yeah, but I definitely think it's a step...well, maybe not backwards, but definitely in a strange direction.

If I head that the next Dark Cloud game (a series I love) was going to be released on the DS, I'd be disappointed. I wouldn't be expecting as good-looking or long of a game than if it would be on a console, that's for sure.

Sarconix
12-17-2006, 06:40 PM
Looks pretty darn good. I love it when developers push relatively low-end hardware beyond expectations, e.g. Golden Sun was amazing on the GBA, especially since it was an early title. The PS2 is also holding up remarkably well in general, after more than six years on the market.

But does anyone else not like the Dragon Quest / Dragonball (Toriyama) character design? I also found that style a bit unappealing, though I can't quite put my finger on why that is.

... and when ARE we getting a Golden Sun followup?

KamaItachi
12-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Looks pretty darn good. I love it when developers push relatively low-end hardware beyond expectations, e.g. Golden Sun was amazing on the GBA, especially since it was an early title. The PS2 is also holding up remarkably well in general, after more than six years on the market.

But does anyone else not like the Dragon Quest / Dragonball (Toriyama) character design? I also found that style a bit unappealing, though I can't quite put my finger on why that is.

... and when ARE we getting a Golden Sun followup?

Toriyama seems to be one of those love him or hate him kinda guys. I don't hate it myself, but I find some of his stuff to be too "busy". Saying that, I'd probably not let it get in the way of me enjoying a game he worked on.

Camel
12-17-2006, 06:59 PM
Sarconix...it's the faces. It's gotta be!

31 Flavas
12-17-2006, 08:51 PM
I hope they make Final Fantasy XIV a GBA exclusive. Or maybe make it under 50mb and put it on XBLA for 1600 MS points.You're assuming that's bad, Kel. Making FF14 GBA exclusive would get rid of the shitty voices and FMV. It could actually get back to being a game vs a $50 movie.

Kelegacy
12-18-2006, 05:17 AM
You're assuming that's bad, Kel. Making FF14 GBA exclusive would get rid of the shitty voices and FMV. It could actually get back to being a game vs a $50 movie.
It would be bad. FF is a cinematic experience. Have you played FF12? The voice acting is phenomenal and the movies are unobtrusive. Hell, I love the cinematics in FF games and look forward to the next one in earnest.

Kamalot
12-18-2006, 06:32 AM
Notice how your appearance is altered by different equipment? I'm liking that.
That's called Real Time Weapon Switching.
I hear you have to have a fairly powerful machine to pull that kind of detail off.

</sarcasm> :rolleyes:

Kamalot
12-18-2006, 06:34 AM
It would be bad. FF is a cinematic experience. Have you played FF12? The voice acting is phenomenal and the movies are unobtrusive. Hell, I love the cinematics in FF games and look forward to the next one in earnest.
Final Fantasy does not HAVE to be a cinematic experience. I'm enjoying Final Fantasy III for the DS more than any other in recent memory, and a hell of a lot more than XII.

I like that Final Fantasy III is about the game, not the whiny, angst-filled androgynous cast of Disney-channel rejects in poorly-written, overly dramatic cutscenes.

Kelegacy
12-18-2006, 07:43 AM
Final Fantasy does not HAVE to be a cinematic experience. I'm enjoying Final Fantasy III for the DS more than any other in recent memory, and a hell of a lot more than XII.

I like that Final Fantasy III is about the game, not the whiny, angst-filled androgynous cast of Disney-channel rejects in poorly-written, overly dramatic cutscenes.
Have you even played FFXII yet? Because if you had, you'd know your accusations about dialogue, characters and scene writing pertained to X, but not XII. FFXII is an amazing title, the best FF in a very long time. It's not shocking to see you like FFIII more though. It's not on a Sony machine. :)

Isn't FFIII mostly characters you create, like the first FF? I think the later FF's are what I like the most, basically interactive novels or movies, with predetermined characters and whatnot. And FF isn't about the cutscenes, though haters tend to bring them up more than anything else.

And Balthasar is in FFXII, and characters like him make that game amazing. Great characters make novels and movies special to me, and games are no exception.

Magnanimous Gnome
12-18-2006, 08:09 AM
I'm definitely looking forward to this. I've always wanted to play a DQ game, but I didn't have a PS1 or 2 (I know, I know), so I haven't had much of a chance. This should be a great title! :)

Kel - I hear you on the gaming scene. I've been burned out as well, although lately I've been really enjoying the DS in small doses. Especially Age of Empires. Just...one....more turn.... I'd love to see an Age of Wonders game on the system, or even Dungeon Keeper - if EA wasn't involved. ;)

You know....I've been looking for Phoenix Wright as well. :D



Edit - I wanted to add that I do miss your old posting style as well (the constant sexual humor was great), but don't get too hung up on it bud. You're still one of my favorite posters on the site, and I think you get a bad rap far too often.

Stormwatcher
12-18-2006, 08:17 AM
I for one am very happy with this news. More better RPGs for the DS!

Gorvi
12-18-2006, 08:21 AM
And Balthasar is in FFXII, and characters like him make that game amazing. Great characters make novels and movies special to me, and games are no exception.

QFT. (although it's Balthier, not Balthasar ;))

If there's a category for character of the year across all genres, Balthier should win hands down. He is by far one of the best characters in any FF, let alone any game in recent memory.

Animated X
12-18-2006, 08:43 AM
This actually looks pretty good, especially the equipment changing visuals aspect of it. I have never played much DQ (had 7, way too tedius for me), but I love my DS rpgs, so I will be picking it up.

31 Flavas
12-18-2006, 08:59 AM
It would be bad. FF is a cinematic experience. Have you played FF12? The voice acting is phenomenal and the movies are unobtrusive. Hell, I love the cinematics in FF games and look forward to the next one in earnest.So what your saying is that it would be impossible for FF to go back to its roots?

Or to rearrange the question, Do the "cinematics" of XII make all the non-FMV containing FF games unplayable now?

FF sure has become cinimatic, no doubt about it, but i'm not entirely convinced lack of FMV would break FF14.

To you perhaps it would, but to everyone else?

Kamalot
12-18-2006, 01:57 PM
FFXII is an amazing title, the best FF in a very long time. It's not shocking to see you like FFIII more though. It's not on a Sony machine. :)
Strange, as I have a PS2 on which I play games. Why would the system on which I play have a bearing on the actual game?

I like Final Fantasy III because the game focuses on being a game, not being a series of pre-rendered movies smattered atop a game engine. I find the focus on gameplay refreshing in Final Fantasy III. It serves to remind me of why I used to like RPGs, before they got heavy-handed with storytelling.