X360 sales surge in Australia despite Wii Launch [Archive]

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 03:48 PM

Well - with Wii released down under on the 7th December - one would have expected 360 sales (a record down under for units sold/time released) to slow down a little...

Not according to this (http://au.gamespot.com/news/6163157.html) article from Gamespot/ZDNet...

From The article

GfK figures for the week ending December 13 show that AU$5.8 million ($4.5 million) worth of 360 hardware and software were sold. AU$2.6 million of that figure was spent on consoles--the highest grossing week of 360 hardware sales since the unit was launched in Australia.

It seems PS3 - especially if they miss their March 07 release - will be further behind down under than they would have liked...

Siraris

12-13-2006, 04:42 PM

So is there any reason for this post aside from flaming the PS3?

kokyunage

12-13-2006, 04:44 PM

Or flaming the Wii? How would sales expect to be dip? In fact, MS executives have previously said they expect better sales due to the limited availability of the competition. Parents will get what's available, and PS3/Wii aren't really available. How did this make the front page?

Not to mention submitter doesn't know how to use QUOTE tags.

Zeal

12-13-2006, 04:46 PM

Moderators, the same news stories are being submitted and approved multiple times.

Rirath

12-13-2006, 04:47 PM

I'm just curious how many times the term 'down under' can be used in a single post. ;)

Captain Awesome

12-13-2006, 04:49 PM

What the hell? When did Australia get electricity?

DaXIthR

12-13-2006, 04:50 PM

Sony's deserves all the flaming they get. You should try to enjoy it.

I hope the PAL regions really speak loud and clear with their wallets, and let Sony know they don't appreciate the delayed launch. With the global market as strong as it is, and the value of every region, and the flow of information regarding news in every other region....Europe and Australia should let Sony suck on some chocolate salty for a little while.

flinxz

12-13-2006, 04:52 PM

What the hell? When did Australia get electricity?

1997, I think.

Camel

12-13-2006, 04:58 PM

This thread is already golden with hilarity. Well done, gents.

Zanzibar

12-13-2006, 05:04 PM

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 05:09 PM

So is there any reason for this post aside from flaming the PS3?

What - you mean - like news that the 360 had a record week on Wii launch week is PS3 flamebait now?

Gosh you SDF'ers are insecure...

Particularly relevant - since I (and quite a few peeps I know) bought a Wii this week - and already had a 360 ....

mkelehan

12-13-2006, 05:12 PM

So is there any reason for this post aside from flaming the PS3?
Someone in another thread said that Sony is a lot like the Bush administration, and that's becoming increasingly true. Just by reporting a fact, people accuse you of being unfair to them.

Serapth

12-13-2006, 05:25 PM

So...I'd like a show of hands of those folks who said that the X360 wouldn't see an increase in sales because of the lack of availability of other consoles. Because there were quite a few before the launches that denied that it was a possibility. They said that if Little Jimmy wanted a PS3 or a Wii, then the parents wouldn't buy an X360 as a Christmas Morning substitute - they'd just buy nothing and wait for availability.

Granted, GoW is selling well, but I think we can all agree that it's not GoW that's driving these kinds of numbers worldwide.

<Hand up>

I think most people that were waiting on one console but decide to buy another because of lack of availability, would be buying in December, not November. If anything, you are going to see those big sales in December.

If anyone wants in on the action, my money says Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 and Wii combined during December for exactly that reason.

KingGorilla

12-13-2006, 05:26 PM

Well, with your new Mod Chip you can truly have a Wii60.

RMan

12-13-2006, 05:32 PM

Just by reporting a fact, people accuse you of being unfair to them.
Well, to be fair, Sony was in no way related to the facts in the article, the news poster just added the jab at Sony, which is not reporting.

Hagetaka

12-13-2006, 05:39 PM

What the hell? When did Australia get electricity?

Haha, nice. This thread rocks, no matter how hot it gets in here.

/Quit being so bitter, this is perfectly suitable news.

Uniqueusername

12-13-2006, 05:51 PM

Parents will get what's available, and PS3/Wii aren't really available.
The Wii is actually quite available- the local game shop had some in stock when I dropped by yesterday. However, at aud$400, it's hardly seen as being good value. Still, credit goes to Nintendo for actually releasing the console here.

The Playstation 3 is not available, and will not be available until next year. Given the 60gig model costs $1000, it's not going to sell well.

I'm a little surprised at the X360 sales, but there is a pretty good value pack where you get 4 games of your choice. That might be shifting consoles.

I still plan on waiting and seeing what the post Christmas sales offer. ;)

trip1eX

12-13-2006, 05:51 PM

the 360 will sell more than last year because they have consoles this xmas. doh.

Same thing will happen to wii and ps3 next year.

Serapth

12-13-2006, 05:55 PM

How big is the Oz/NZ market anyways? A couple million consoles? More, less?

Im just curious how important this region is in terms of global success, nothing more.

Chameleo

12-13-2006, 05:55 PM

yay! go 360!

this is very newsworthy - the 360 having a record week at the Wii launch. thats great news for MS! good job!

australia might just be perfect for the Wii60 movement!

Chameleo

12-13-2006, 05:55 PM

How big is the Oz/NZ market anyways? A couple million consoles? More, less?

Im just curious how important this region is in terms of global success, nothing more.

well it *is* a whole freakin continent! heh.

bragging rights etc...

Serapth

12-13-2006, 05:58 PM

well it *is* a whole freakin continent! heh.

bragging rights etc...

Yeah, well ignoring that fact ( Antarctica is a continet too you know!!! :D ) that its a continent, how many consoles are bought there?

Chameleo

12-13-2006, 06:02 PM

Yeah, well ignoring that fact ( Antarctica is a continet too you know!!! :D ) that its a continent, how many consoles are bought there?

heh yeah i know - we could look at it in hard cold facts - but winning over oceania - Aus/NZ would be quite an accomplishment. would be a place for MS to champion their conquest...

Serapth

12-13-2006, 06:07 PM

heh yeah i know - we could look at it in hard cold facts - but winning over oceania - Aus/NZ would be quite an accomplishment. would be a place for MS to champion their conquest...

But wasnt the first Xbox oddly popular in that region? I mean, statistically speaking.

Chameleo

12-13-2006, 06:09 PM

But wasnt the first Xbox oddly popular in that region? I mean, statistically speaking.

noooo idea. on a completely unrelated note, is this TV (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-30HF83-TheaterWide-HD-Ready-Screen/dp/B00009XEG7) a good deal for $500 canadian?

i'm thinking of upgrading my TV for a 360...

Hagetaka

12-13-2006, 06:14 PM

How big is the Oz/NZ market anyways? A couple million consoles? More, less?

Im just curious how important this region is in terms of global success, nothing more.

What, never played risk? That's how you won, I thought.

Serapth

12-13-2006, 06:19 PM

noooo idea. on a completely unrelated note, is this TV (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-30HF83-TheaterWide-HD-Ready-Screen/dp/B00009XEG7) a good deal for $500 canadian?

i'm thinking of upgrading my TV for a 360...

Maybe. I find the verbage "accepts 480/720/1080" a little scary. EDTV accept all those resolutions and you dont want an EDTV. Find out what the native resolution is. If its 720p or 1080i native, thats not a bad deal. The only big negative is the lack of HDMI support. DVI is a dying bred and could mean an upgrade in the next 3 or so years.

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 06:22 PM

Well, to be fair, Sony was in no way related to the facts in the article, the news poster just added the jab at Sony, which is not reporting.

Sorry, not my intention to jab Sony. More to point out that it's still only a 2 horse race for the next gen down here at the moment.

(and also - a lot of friends have thought that "leaked" and then denied Sep 07 European PAL release may actually have been for down here...)

Also - with only 20 million people I believe our games market is a little over half the size of Canada - so on a global scale - not that significant...although I think combined with New Zealand (Australasia) it's about the size of the Canadian market....

And the Xbox 1 statistically did better here than most territories, yep. Maybe this is a reason 360 adoption is high...

Math

12-13-2006, 06:23 PM

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 06:25 PM

heh yeah i know - we could look at it in hard cold facts - but winning over oceania - Aus/NZ would be quite an accomplishment. would be a place for MS to champion their conquest...

Yeah - I remember they used us for "bragging rights" last gen....

GC died a horrible death here (not for me personally), but I thought us Aussies would have taken to more physically active Wii, y'know, since we're all prime physical specimens down here (sarcasm intended), but I didn't buy mine till after those figures cut off, so maybe Wii week 2 will be a different story....

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 06:28 PM

The PS3 is not out in OZ this year, so that's probably why it wasn't mentioned.

I had to hunt around a bit for a Wii. Most of the large video game chains had sold out, but I found one in a department store.

Same - most friends I knew who worked in various gaming retail outlets were sold out on launch night, so I'd sort of decided to wait....But then David Jones (department store) and their pricematch policy For The Win!

(and yep PS3 isn't out for a while yet over here methinks, and to reiterate - that was why I mentioned Sony, not to have some unneeded jab at them - they've been doing that pretty well themselves down here lately....)

RMan

12-13-2006, 06:30 PM

And the Xbox 1 statistically did better here than most territories, yep. Maybe this is a reason 360 adoption is high...
I would imagine it would be, especially with the deals it seems to get and the fact that, at least for the games that work, the BC is really cool. I'd think these things would make it an easy to swallow upgrade for Xbox fans.

Chameleo

12-13-2006, 06:30 PM

Maybe. I find the verbage "accepts 480/720/1080" a little scary. EDTV accept all those resolutions and you dont want an EDTV. Find out what the native resolution is. If its 720p or 1080i native, thats not a bad deal. The only big negative is the lack of HDMI support. DVI is a dying bred and could mean an upgrade in the next 3 or so years.

cool i'm asking him....

i dunno; i'm always worried when i see HDTV "ready".... i mean wtf?! can't companies come out and honestly/up-front say what their TV can do? its so hard to find specs about the TV and what it displays.... its like some big secret or something....

this is one of the main reasons i've held off on an HDTV and the "next gen" of gaming.

IrishWhiskey

12-13-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Zanzibar
They said that if Little Jimmy wanted a PS3 or a Wii, then the parents wouldn't buy an X360 as a Christmas Morning substitute - they'd just buy nothing and wait for availability.

Granted, GoW is selling well, but I think we can all agree that it's not GoW that's driving these kinds of numbers worldwide.

The hell I'd agree. Its definately Gears of War. I mean, its a game about a gruff macho-man convict let out of prison to fight strange creatures and in so-doing save the world.

Australia is a nation founded by convicts who love to wrestle 'Gators. Microsoft found their target market.

Just like Sony is going for the 'retarded 30 year old white rapper who live with their parents market' with the PSP. And Nintendo..... eh, I'll just say they're advertising for people who want strange Asian men to show up at their door late at night so they can come in and have a good time... With their vibrating Wiimotes... I've gone too far.

Ducks behind flame shield

RPT

12-13-2006, 06:46 PM

How big is the Oz/NZ market anyways? A couple million consoles? More, less?

Im just curious how important this region is in terms of global success, nothing more.
Australia got 30,000 Wii's at launch so It's quite a small market. The Wii however is the fastest selling console in Australia. linky (http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=11284)
I think the previous holder of the title was the 360 so I guess the market is expanding.

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 06:51 PM

Interesting Link...

32,901 Wii's in 4 days..Crikey!

They sold 100,000 360's in like - 8 months - so this is pretty impressive....

Things are definitely looking up for Nintendo down here this generation ...

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 06:54 PM

The hell I'd agree. Its definately Gears of War. I mean, its a game about a gruff macho-man convict let out of prison to fight strange creatures and in so-doing save the world.

Australia is a nation founded by convicts who love to wrestle 'Gators. Microsoft found their target market.

Just like Sony is going for the 'retarded 30 year old white rapper who live with their parents market' with the PSP. And Nintendo..... eh, I'll just say they're advertising for people who want strange Asian men to show up at their door late at night so they can come in and have a good time... With their vibrating Wiimotes... I've gone too far.

Ducks behind flame shield

Gold. Pure Gold.

I've had so much less time to wrestle Gators and Crocs since Wii week, and even less for GOW since DOAX2 came out....

An island filled almost exclusively with beautiful women, and everyone's sport/recreation mad and spend most of their time at the beach?

Now that's an Aussie game (and budget midpriced $70AU down here - as is VPinata - MS have covered their bases well down here methinks...). Still - if only the Viva Pinata ad (or one of the greatest game ads of all time) mad it on TV over here...if only...

Kem0sabe

12-13-2006, 06:58 PM

Johan

12-13-2006, 07:15 PM

IrishWhiskey...orange of the month! :)

Siraris

12-13-2006, 07:17 PM

What - you mean - like news that the 360 had a record week on Wii launch week is PS3 flamebait now?

Gosh you SDF'ers are insecure...

Particularly relevant - since I (and quite a few peeps I know) bought a Wii this week - and already had a 360 ....

No, but you saying "It seems PS3 - especially if they miss their March 07 release - will be further behind down under than they would have liked..." is flamebait, to a T, the definition of flamebait, verbatim.

I don't give a shit if someone posts an article about the 360 selling well. I'm glad the 360 is selling well, better for me in that hopefully more games will come out for the system. The comment is just nauseating.

Tel Prydain

12-13-2006, 07:18 PM

As I said before, the Wii isn't really selling in New Zealand. There was a short burst of buying, but the local store still has them in stock.

Savok

12-13-2006, 07:31 PM

Distances what they are in Australia, a robust online element is extremely important to us. XBL only costs as much a month or two of a decent connection anyway, we're used to paying a premium for our online.

MS has a tendency (though they really dropped the ball with the 360 launch, luckily nothing there was worth buying) of releasing things the same year as the US gets them. We have long memories for these things.

Hieremias

12-13-2006, 07:37 PM

You know... I hardly ever bitch about this sort of thing, but what's with all the sales reports on this site? Surely there's more interesting news than how well each of the consoles is selling in one particular part of the world. But every day there's several more sales reports. How the X360 is outselling the Wii in Australia. How the Wii is outselling everyone in Japan. How more X360s are sold this Christmas than PS3s. Can we do a story about how many gamers actually care about these?

"Daily Gaming News.... with attitude" is turning into "Daily Sony/MS/Nintendo financial results.... with regional analysis."

Anyway, dunno if this place has a suggestion box, but if it does, this is my entry.

NACIONAL

12-13-2006, 07:51 PM

Surely there's more interesting news than how well each of the consoles is selling in one particular part of the world. But every day there's several more sales reports. How the X360 is outselling the Wii in Australia. How the Wii is outselling everyone in Japan. How more X360s are sold this Christmas than PS3s. Can we do a story about how many gamers actually care about these?

"Daily Gaming News.... with attitude" is turning into "Daily Sony/MS/Nintendo financial results.... with regional analysis."

I don't know, i think EA has a lot of different stories at the same time, for example, at this time, we have analisys about the Live MarketPlace, Screenshots of Final Fantasy, news about an Alien RPG, inGame advertising, news about Fable 2... i don't know.. maybe you are not reading the news stories that you like the most and you are concentrating in the stories you dislike....

PS: And there is allways the option of changing the URL... I dont'n know, i have been here since 1998, and there is allways ups and downs, but this site is one million times better than other news sources and forums....

daschysta

12-13-2006, 08:10 PM

Australia, December 13, 2006 - In a grand show of support for Nintendo's latest console, Wii, Australians have smashed the standing record for most console sales in Australian history at launch.

According to Nintendo Australia's PR honcho, Vispi Bhopti, in the first four days of sale, 32,901 consumers purchased Wii. This means that Wii has officially broken the record for the biggest launch of a video game system in Australian history.

Moreover, this has exceeded the standing 30,000 unit sales record held in Australia by the Xbox 360 back in March this year.

"The launch of Wii has been a fantastic success for us," says Rose Lappin, Director of Sales and Marketing. "We aim to bring gaming to the masses and I think we have taken some large steps in the right direction. Our main priority now is to deliver as many units as possible into retail channels, as quickly as possible, to try and meet this exceptional demand."

Australia-wide, retailers experienced a surge of activity, with many reporting large queues in front of stores at openings and total sell-outs on launch day.

"Myer has just experienced a strong spike in total business which can be largely attributed to the introduction of Wii," explains Bernie Brookes, Myer CEO. "We couldn't be happier with the fantastic products Nintendo are releasing. Our Wii launch experience has really shown that consumers have made Myer a destination store for gaming."

The Wii has already proven to be a sell-out success in North America and Japan, and very recently sent Europe into a retail frenzy.

Nintendo is targeting to deliver 4 million Wii hardware units globally by the end of this calendar year and 6 million by the end of this fiscal year in March.

link (http://http://wii.ign.com/articles/750/750918p1.html)

Savok

12-13-2006, 08:17 PM

Gamefreaks

12-13-2006, 10:19 PM

As I said before, the Wii isn't really selling in New Zealand. There was a short burst of buying, but the local store still has them in stock.

Are you surprised - I haven't seen a single goddamned ad on the TV

blackzc

12-13-2006, 10:51 PM

From what i know aussies are very redneck and drink beer out of boots, (which is good). But this means they dont like the kiddie feminin stuff the nintendo puts out.

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 10:53 PM

Australia is a very interesting place in regards to the console wars. Xbox market penetration here was almost that of the PS2's (as the GC all but died sadly), how the sales fall here is actually worth noting.

Yeah - agreed. (Though it may just be more interesting for us, being locals and all).

We never were quite at the level of Brazil, but Sega gave Nintendo a good run for their money in the 8 and 16 bit days down here, when Ozisoft became more agressive in their marketing.

We never got TG 16 (or PC Engine) though, and 3do had a very limited release.

As a microcosm, Australia's a bit like a higher average income Europe, and a marketer's dream. And MS have been good to us (midprice VP and DOAX2 for chrissake! Live 9 months or so after US launch, Game/Controller rebates) and we remember these things.

Still - it's good to see nintendo getting some market share back - maybe the 2 horse race of the last few years (xbox/ps2) down here will become a 3 horse race - but Sony may have been left at the gate for the moment.

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 10:58 PM

From what i know aussies are very redneck and drink beer out of boots, (which is good). But this means they dont like the kiddie feminin stuff the nintendo puts out.

In fact most of us are well educated, live on the coast - in honest to goodness cities with broadband access, satellite TV and a public health and welfare system!

(well the cities and coast part - not sure about the broadband and foxtel adoption rates)

But we are all big, strong, bronzed, he-men who aren't afraid of drinking more than their weight in alcohol then waving their arms around madly in front of the television. People pay to go to the cricket to do just that (or Mexican waving I thinks they calls it) so I'm quite frankly surprised the Wii hasn't sold more.

JimmyDanger

12-13-2006, 11:11 PM

No, but you saying "It seems PS3 - especially if they miss their March 07 release - will be further behind down under than they would have liked..." is flamebait, to a T, the definition of flamebait, verbatim.

I don't give a shit if someone posts an article about the 360 selling well. I'm glad the 360 is selling well, better for me in that hopefully more games will come out for the system. The comment is just nauseating.

Good Sir - can I introduce a good friend of mine - reality.

I am a gamer. I live in Australia.

If I lived in America - or anywhere where the PS3 was launched - sure - flamebait. But I live in a country where -in reality, not abstract overseas observation - I cannot buy a PS3 - Sony did not release PS3 here in case you didn't hear - (despite their assurances last christmas) - and I know plenty of people, plenty pissed who 9 months ago passed on the 360 for their soon-to-come Sony love.

And a lot of those people bought Wii's last week.

So - yes - I thought, as a lot of people did, that many would just wait for the PS3, but this news would seem to indicate - maybe not so many are - and are plumping down for consoles in record numbers here. Record launch sales for the Wii - 360 have their biggest week since launch.

And Sony - who have been dominant here for over a decade - for the first time in 3 generations - don't have their product out before one (or both) of their competitors.

That, good sir, is reality.

I'm sorry you find it so nauseating.

Savok

12-14-2006, 12:25 AM

In fact most of us are well educated, live on the coast - in honest to goodness cities with broadband access, satellite TV and a public health and welfare system!
Yeah I wouldn't go mentioning our healthcare to the rest of the world, it's embarrassing.

baz

12-14-2006, 12:27 AM

I'm a kiwi, although living in london at the moment. Lots of my mates back in NZ have bought xbox360s over this holiday period, in part due to the lack of other options, and I think MS are really going to do well over there. By missing this holiday season in NZ Sony have made things many times harder for themselves.

(We only have 4 million people though, so aren't going to swing a console war, but Aus have about 20 millionish now, so as a region there is a bit of potential there)

I'm really excited by the 07 games coming for the 360, Mass Effect and Bioshock FTW.

DarkDaY

12-14-2006, 01:45 AM

So is there any reason for this post aside from flaming the PS3?

hmm, never saw it that way, sorry you did, i read so many posts, threads...and lately, you have made me thing your just a doode thats unbiased, even though i read your plee to insomniac on the ign blog,,, benifit of the doubt...

but the last week you and gorvi have went straight back to where you were months ago,
seriously si...... quit protecting, tis just a machine....just a billion dollar company....go back to last month where you pretended about all games...

o...and go austrailia....good stuff.

Crispy951

12-14-2006, 04:31 AM

hmm, never saw it that way, sorry you did, i read so many posts, threads...and lately, you have made me thing your just a doode thats unbiased, even though i read your plee to insomniac on the ign blog,,, benifit of the doubt...

but the last week you and gorvi have went straight back to where you were months ago,
seriously si...... quit protecting, tis just a machine....just a billion dollar company....go back to last month where you pretended about all games...

o...and go austrailia....good stuff.

He....sounds....so...lost...and...confused...

Bugsplatter

12-14-2006, 05:36 AM

Now that's an Aussie game (and budget midpriced $70AU down here - as is VPinata - MS have covered their bases well down here methinks...). Still - if only the Viva Pinata ad (or one of the greatest game ads of all time) mad it on TV over here...if only...

What ad? Got a youtube link? I haven't seen this...

Dylan McCrae

12-14-2006, 07:07 AM

Linkage!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgD_982cNU)

Made me want a 360 even more haha

Philonious

12-14-2006, 07:13 AM

Erm... Another point of view:

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives//004591.html

Apparently their record sales involved selling a WHOPPING 4000 units. Not at all impressive following a 30 000 unit launch by the Wii. Two sides to every story... And apparently press releases don't always reflect the "truth".

Aidopunko

12-14-2006, 08:17 AM

Yep, the premium bundle is around the $600 mark, most places a little cheaper, which means this is between 4 and 5 thousand units sold.

The people who get 360s are the ones who buy them on finance for themselves. PS2, Wii, DS being more affordable are much more likely to be a christmas present for the kids. Most of the non-nerds at work were asking about the Wii, even the ones that don't play videogames were cursing themselves for not putting one aside. The 360 launch on the other hand at our store was nerd exclusive, no-one else was much interested in them.

We got our Wii's about a week late, 12 were sold in less than a day, none were preorders since we aren't a major gaming retailer. We have about 30 360s stocked up and way, way more PS2s. If shortages of the Wii will benefit anyone, I think it will be the PS2 with Guitar Heroes, Singstar and Buzz games. That, or the Lite. Most parents asking about handhelds see the price of the PSP and then ask about that other cheaper one next to it.

The Wii suffers a bit from the lack of kiosks, I set one up at work and had people watching me play and asking to join in. Of course, then you have to put the Wiimotes away, or have someone stand there all day while people play. 360, PSP, PS2 all have kiosks that people see and play. Out of interest, what would be a good game to put in if we wanted a demo running for people to see and inquire about? I tried to get a Mii parade going, do you need an internet connection for that?

Chris_D

12-14-2006, 08:28 AM

Hmm, Australia is a market that nearly any international company can afford to ignore and not really impact their profits. You could also say that about a number of territories in Europe for example (translating all those languages is a pain), but it all adds up in the end.

The GC did die a horrible death in australia, the games sold so badly that it was hard to get decent 2nd hand prices on them. You could get almost any ps2/xbox game dirt cheap second hand if you didn't mind the non mint condition. Not surprised to hear that the 360 is doing ok there, also the wii is quite a different prospect from the cube. If the PS3 does seriously end up launching at $1000 I can't see it finishing anywhere but last in Aus unless the price drops quickly. Taking the average wage into account, paying $1000 in aus is significantly more than paying $600 in the US, so keep that in mind.

One thing thats gotten almost no press outside of MS's Major Nelsons blog is MS recent launches in the markets of South Africa and India (first console ever to officially launch in a country of over a billion people). I wouldn't expect big things anytime soon, but if these territories (where the ps3 will likely never be available except by gray import) ever start to push real numbers then it could be signifcant in the overall worldwide sales figures. It also could mean actually getting a high quality cricket game on the 360!

Savok

12-14-2006, 08:44 AM

A great cricket game would likely cripple MS's ability to send 360s anywhere but India for awhile.

DarkDaY

12-14-2006, 10:59 AM

He....sounds....so...lost...and...confused...

lol, nope. i was just really drunk, and dont barely rember typing it...though, im sure i had a point....somewhere.

Tel Prydain

12-14-2006, 02:06 PM

Are you surprised - I haven't seen a single goddamned ad on the TV

You don't watch enough TV :p

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 04:38 AM

Savok

12-16-2006, 05:06 AM

What the fuck is Alien Crush?

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 02:59 PM

The prequel to Devil's Crash - an awesome pinball/seu hybrid by HudsonSoft - and one of my most wanted games of all time (since PC Engines/TG16's aren't too easy or cheap to come by) - since I loved the MD Devil's Crash - I believe it was released in the West as Dragon's Fury and edited slightly, but I'm happy I had a Hong Kong connection back in the early 90's...

EDIT - And rereading my previous post - I was pretty drunk last night...I woke up next to Viva Pinata....

Serapth

12-16-2006, 03:29 PM

What is it with you australians posting drunk. In this thread every third post is by someone that is drunk, or explaining they were drunk! ;)

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 03:49 PM

I'm sober at the moment.

But yes - us Australians drink deep from the cup of life, so to speak..

Serapth

12-16-2006, 03:54 PM

I'm sober at the moment.

But yes - us Australians drink deep from the cup of life, so to speak..

Dont worry, so do we canucks. Plus, something I read said that Brits are the worlds most chronic drinkers. Im figuring they lumped the irish into that group somewhere. Its said the average (AVERAGE!) Brit averages 5.something pints a day. Wow! :D

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 04:05 PM

Surely that can't be right - a Pint is like 880 mls isn't it - that's like 4 litres a day...

Mad Dogs and Englishmen...

EDIT - Ah, a pint is 550 mls - 2 litres a day sounds just lovely to me....

Serapth

12-16-2006, 04:11 PM

It seems(ed) awfully high to me. I cant find the article I read it in, but in searching I found this: Link here (http://alcoholism.about.com/b/a/040221.htm)

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A new survey in the United Kingdom has found that almost two-thirds of young women admit to drinking so much that they woke up the next morning with virtually no memory of events of the night before.

The 2003 Freedom Years survey of 1,000 women age 18-28 polled across the UK, conducted by Company magazine, reported that 66 percent of young women who responded had experienced waking up the next day with almost no recollection of what happened the night before -- a phenomenon sometimes known as "blackout drinking." In 2001, only 42 percent reported having blackouts.

According to Ananova the survey also found:

60 percent admitted to drinking 21 units of alcohol in one or two weekend sessions, rather than throughout the week as recommended. (A unit of alcohol is 10 ml of pure alcohol; a pint of lager beer contains about 2 units).
29 percent said they had lost items during a bout of drinking -- keys, money and other valuables -- up from 20 percent in 2001.
50 percent said they had experienced waking up at home and not having any idea how they got there, up from 33 percent.
10 percent admitted that they had been escorted home by a total stranger.
All of the women surveyed were single, had never been married and never had children.
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... and this is the women! :D

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 04:18 PM

Serapth

12-16-2006, 04:23 PM

Blackout drinking sessions - I remember them not at all...

That said - I probably experience "blackout" once every few months..and it can be fucking scary....calling friends and asking them what the fuck happened..

Actually lasst major one was probably the FA Cup ( 6 months or so ago now) - started drinking at midday - by midnight - I was at home in front of the game with no memory of leaving the pub (an hours walk just vanished as well) - and while I was sure I must have passed out for the game - people at my house told me I was awake and singing scouser anthems throughout the entire match and into extra time...

Ive never experienced a blackout, I think some people are simply immune to them. That said, I really wish a few nights I would have blacked out! ;) New Years of 2000 I sunk to a new stupid low for alcohol consumption, consuming about 14 or 15 lighter beers ( Coronas I think ), then as the result of a very bad bet/dare, drinking a 750 mL(26 oz) bottle of Rye(Whisky) in about 10 minutes. Thank god my body violently expelled most of the alcohol about an hour later, or that one might have landed me in the hospital.

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 04:56 PM

Serapth

12-16-2006, 05:28 PM

I dunno about immunity - I think it's more something that happens after long, consistent drinking sessions - as opposed to rapid bingeing ....

In my younger days - I'd just get drunk and drunker - but the older (and more alcoholic) I get - the more I find I just hit "the level" - where I'm downing 4 - 5 drinks an hour for 8 hours or so... not feeling significantly spastic, until the blackness seeps in...

Wow, 5 drinks and hour for 8 hours straight would kill me, and I always pegged myself a good drinker. I doubt I could walk much at that point, which would keep me from getting into situations that I would black out from! :)

The only time I can drink like that is when im at the cottage/camping. In those days, I generally start drinking shortly after breakfast and continue until right before bed. Dusting a case or more of beer ( 24 being a case if thats not universal ) is easy, but strangely after the first night, I never really seem to get drunk in those cases. Can never explain why that is.

blackzc

12-16-2006, 06:30 PM

Yeah i think aussies may be doing some major drinking over there, they are drinking full blown alcoholic amounts for the states. My dad drinks like a fish and has for years, but hearing how the brits and aussies drink....mmm. mabye im being to hard on him? lol

JimmyDanger

12-16-2006, 11:14 PM

but strangely after the first night, I never really seem to get drunk in those cases. Can never explain why that is.

That's it dude - just keep drinking past that point - for some solid hours - and maybe throw in a Jack Daniels or two into the mix - and blackout zone awaits!

Maybe Australians drink more because our climate is generally a bit warmer - but that wouldn't explain why the Brits do. Guess were just an island of alcoholic ex convicts. And crocodile wrestlers. And all our women are beautiful like Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts - and all our men are surly tough guys like Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe and Mel "Blackout" Gibson himself.

EDIT - Tho on the Brit/Aussie alcohol/climate debate. They like their beer a bit warmer in them colder climes - and we like a cold one. Also - our "mainstream" beer is generally 10% or so stronger than "mainstream" American brew.

Savok

12-17-2006, 12:34 AM

American beer is like sex in a canoe.

Fucking close to water.

Chameleo

12-17-2006, 12:37 AM

heh heh. i got into beer on japanese beer. thats damn good stuff.

sapporro beer for the win!

blackzc

12-17-2006, 08:16 PM

American beer is like sex in a canoe.

Fucking close to water.

I had some aussie beer, the shit isnt much better. :D Plus i think they do the same stuff with beer as tobacco companies do with smokes. The send the cheap/dam near rejected stuff overseas and keep the good stuff for the home turf.

Ive drank prolly a hundred different beers and there is not one thing wrong with a nice bud ice.

Serapth

12-17-2006, 08:24 PM

Ive drank prolly a hundred different beers and there is not one thing wrong with a nice bud ice.

Then, by some magical exception to the laws of probability, you found yourself 99 shitty beers.

blackzc

12-17-2006, 08:38 PM

Then, by some magical exception to the laws of probability, you found yourself 99 shitty beers.

Fo real? Look dude, i know the difference between cheap and expensive beer, i like bud ice, i drink bud ice. just because i know beer doesn't mean i cant enjoy a 6$ six pack of bud

Here are 12 american beers, all of these fall within the top 20 of the best beers in the world, Gee i guess american beer does suck. :D

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/15917/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/alesmith-barrel-aged-speedway-stout/28173/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-oak-aged-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/58590/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/bells-expedition-stout/3214/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/kuhnhenn-raspberry-eisbock/25627/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dreadnaught-imperial-ipa/8933/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-lakes-barrel-aged-blackout-stout/53647/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/stone-imperial-russian-stout/4315/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/the-duck-rabbit-baltic-porter/63820/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-world-wide-stout-2001-2003-present-(18)/5923/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/livery-bourbon-cask-aged-wheat-trippelbock/49981/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/alesmith-barrel-aged-old-numbskull/42090/

Serapth

12-17-2006, 09:27 PM

Fo real? Look dude, i know the difference between cheap and expensive beer, i like bud ice, i drink bud ice. just because i know beer doesn't mean i cant enjoy a 6$ six pack of bud

Here are 12 american beers, all of these fall within the top 20 of the best beers in the world, Gee i guess american beer does suck. :D

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/15917/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/alesmith-barrel-aged-speedway-stout/28173/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-oak-aged-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/58590/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/bells-expedition-stout/3214/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/kuhnhenn-raspberry-eisbock/25627/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dreadnaught-imperial-ipa/8933/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/great-lakes-barrel-aged-blackout-stout/53647/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/stone-imperial-russian-stout/4315/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/the-duck-rabbit-baltic-porter/63820/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dogfish-head-world-wide-stout-2001-2003-present-(18)/5923/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/livery-bourbon-cask-aged-wheat-trippelbock/49981/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/alesmith-barrel-aged-old-numbskull/42090/

Didnt notice how 1) it was posted on an American server? or 2) Every beer listed is a micro brew.

Hey dont take offence, im just saying domestic American beer is shit. Something I think most American beer drinkers will admit to.