Gamecube Zelda in Extremely Short Supply?

[ReaverX]

Apparently Nintendo's Release of Twilight Princess for the Gamecube is a very limited release. From the sound of things, "Hard to find" might be an understatement.

Via 1up (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155801)

When your new console has a single killer-app (and that Twilight Princess -- she's a killer) and another version of the game is supposed to ship almost a month afterward on your very dead old console does it make sense to short supply the old version?

Probably not. But is that what's happening with The Twilight Princess on GameCube? It's hard to say, but the game has begun disappearing from online outlets. Want to buy it from EB Games? Good luck. There's still a strategy guide available for the GameCube version, but no game available at Gamestop. Best Buy still lists the Twilight Princess as shipping tomorrow. Amazon doesn't have a release date or availability for the GameCube version, either. Circuit City lists the game as "coming soon" with an expected release date of Dec. 13.

Although I can understand this move by Nintendo, I still don't like it. This really sucks for Gamecube owners (such as myslef) who want to play Zelda and Wiis are still nowhere to be found.

[Gideon Ransom]

You could always try to win a Wii in the Holiday Give-Away.

[Heretic Machine]

I thought people already understood that this would be the case? For a while they were talking about doing an online-only release.

[pacman]

I thought people already understood that this would be the case? For a while they were talking about doing an online-only release.

Really? I didn't hear that at all. I guess this makes me double happy I got a Wii, although I feel bad for those GC owners who thought they could enjoy the TP experience.

[Zeal]

Copies of this shit are going for $100 on Amazon.com and eBay.

God, fuck Nintendo so hardcore.

[Norse]

People slam MS for dropping the Xbox support as soon as the 360 was released. Will people slam Nintendo for the same??

[Heretic Machine]

People slam MS for dropping the Xbox support as soon as the 360 was released. Will people slam Nintendo for the same??

I already have been. This isn't a recent thing, they essentially stopped supporting the Gamecube over a year ago.

[Borys]

People slam MS for dropping the Xbox support as soon as the 360 was released. Will people slam Nintendo for the same??

Will they or will they not?

God, fuck Nintendo so hardcore.

Awwwwwwwwwww...

[Nessus]

They're releasing the GameCube version of Twilight Princess in much the same way they released the N64 DD.

[Lord Nerdious]

They're releasing the GameCube version of Twilight Princess in much the same way they released the N64 DD.

Not at all?

[Zeal]

I wanna get it for the novelty value alone.

[NeoSuplex]

I was afraid of this... Time to go to work.

THE HUNT IS ON!
Just gimme the game and nobody fuggin' gets hurt.

[Nate Graves]

Already put mine up on amazon for $79.97

Score!

(Personally, I think this sucks and is a real slam to Gamecube owners, especially when you consider how long we've been waiting for this. Even if we could all afford to go out and buy and new console JUST FOR ZELDA, most of us can't even find one. This is really uncool, Nintendo.

...however, like I mentioned about not being able to afford a new console, it would be stupid of me not to take advantage of the situation. No hard feelings, eh?)

[Rirath]

I sure do wish people would be as up in arms about Nintendo's shoddy practices like this as they are with Sony and MS, but it won't happen.

Way to screw every Gamecube owner once more, Nintendo.

[KingGorilla]

I sure do wish people would be as up in arms about Nintendo's shoddy practices like this as they are with Sony and MS, but it won't happen.

Way to screw every Gamecube owner once more, Nintendo.
Bunch of Stepford wives here, how many people bitched about Microtransactions and then went and bought the Halo Wallpaper or the GRAW map-packs?

[shnastybiznastic]

I'm not seeing the reason behind righteous indignation here. Can someone break it down for me?

edit: sometime between now and before now, I broke a thousand posts. go me!

[rahvii]

People slam MS for dropping the Xbox support as soon as the 360 was released. Will people slam Nintendo for the same??
Way before Wii Nintendo pulled the support to GC, thats old news (disapointing of course, i agree). But at least they offer full backwards compatibility with GC on Wii, not to metion VC. Microsoft pulled support to Xbox so bad to the point of saying that Backwards is not important.

Im still wanting to play Sega Xbox Games on 360...

[NoName]

I'm not seeing the reason behind richeous indignation here. Can someone break it down for me?

edit: sometime between now and before now, I broke a thousand posts. go me!
I think there's so much bad will because it's thought Nintendo might be using a sleazy tactic. In order to promote and sell more Wii's, they're putting out very few copies of the Gamecube version of Zelda. That way, in order to have the "privilege" of playing Zelda, you must get a Wii.

Being forced to do something makes people grumpy. Myself, I've been playing Zelda in 480p on my Wii for quite some time now, so I'm not so hurt ;). Congrats on your posts.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

My understanding is that EB/Gamestops are getting small ammounts, whereas Wal-Mart and there like are sitlling getting alot.

[Goronmon]

I'm not seeing the reason behind richeous indignation here. Can someone break it down for me?Well, I don't really understand this "richeous" indignation either I guess. :p

See #2 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=richeous

;)

[Sparky]

My understanding is that EB/Gamestops are getting small ammounts, whereas Wal-Mart and there like are sitlling getting alot.


Nope

Try online. Best Buy? Nope. Wal Mart? Nope. Circuit City? Nope. Amazon (other than reseller jackasses, nope), Target? Nope. EB/GS? Nope. All sites say 'coming soon or sold out' without the ability to preorder like normal.

EB and GS didn't even get enough to cover reservations by a HUGE gap even though they got the largest share of what Nintendo was selling.

They (Nintendo) just want people to buy the Wii version. Good luck to the morons that were saying they were going to bop into stores and buy one yesterday.

Only Reggie can save you now.

[Nate Graves]

Only Reggie can save you now.

Actually, if anyone on EvAv wants one, the Walmart and Target here (in backwater Muncie, IN) have a crapload in stock.

The only thing is, I'm broke (which is why I didn't buy them all). I don't know how long it takes to transfer money via paypal to bank account, but if anyone knows the interval and if it's possible, I'd be glad to do what I can.

[EmoryM]

Our local GameStop got something like 96 copies with which to cover 188 reserves... maybe there was a problem at the tiny disc factory on account of the machinery not having been used for a year? Duh-huhr!

[shnastybiznastic]

Well, I don't really understand this "richeous" indignation either I guess. :p
Thanks, I tend to use google as a spell check when I'm not sure about a word, I guess it failed me this time.

I guess it's hard to see the real problem here. I mean, when MS cut ties with the xbox, the new console was one hundred dollars more than the old one was at launch, and wasn't even completley backwards compatable. The real killer was the fact that consumers were given the choice of buying into a machine that had a very real chance of flopping, and would not even function as an upgraded xbox if the games sucked during launch/first year.

The Wii, on the other hand, had several absoloutley killer launch titles, had a pack in, could function as a backup gamecube, and was priced much cheaper than the competition. So there's some goodwill there.

Here's a parallell example: Your friend can't make it to your birthday party because he has a company meeting to go to. OR Your friend can't make it to your birthday party because he has a company meeting after he gets completley drunk last week and proclaims that you arent really his friend and he just hangs out with you so you will take him to restraunts.

So there's why I don't think it matters to consumers. Here's why it shouldn't matter to the "hardcore" (worst descriptor ever) crowd: There is no reason not to buy the wii, and therefore the wii version.

Think about it... You will eventually own all the consoles anyway, why wait on the only one that is even remotley focused on brick and mortar multiplayer? The only people who shouldn't own a wii are those who don't have any nearby friends with whom to play, and all of those people are PC gamers anyway, and see the wii as throwing the money you could use for a video card away.

Plus, the Wii version is [i]better[i]. It has new controls, outputs to a higher resomoloution, and features the best zelda fishing simulator to date. [i]What the fuck else is there to care about people?[i] You will all buy the Wii eventually, now you may need to do so a little sooner in order to not have to wait on zelda.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I sure do wish people would be as up in arms about Nintendo's shoddy practices like this as they are with Sony and MS, but it won't happen.

Way to screw every Gamecube owner once more, Nintendo.



What's up with these kinds of comments? I see them in nearly every Nintendo thread, and they are just silly. Nintendo doesn't get a free pass around here - people give them shit all the time. Yet every time a Nintendo thread comes along, several posters whine about how Nintendo is treated like Jesus or something.


That said, Nintendo really must not want my $50 then. I guess I'll buy a rice cooker instead.

[SaintArnold]

Circuit City, $38, 5PM today. I'll be there at 4:30.

[UnderHero5]

So wait... they're basing this "shortage" on a handful of online retailers not having them in stock and saying that because of this Nintendo is purposely shipping very few of them? Come on people.

You know, two weeks ago I could walks into any WalMart and buy a pink DS Lite.
Last week I went to do just that (gift for girlfriend) to find out that they were all sold out. I used to see tons of them just two weeks ago. So I went online and checked every single online retailer that I could. Not a single one had them in stock. I checked at least 10 different sites. So because of this I am to think Nintendo is purposely holding pink DS Lites? Or maybe... just maybe... it's CHRISTMAS TIME and this shit sells out fast! *gasp*

As far as Zelda goes, I kept hearing about "shortages" of TP on the Wii too, but I still saw it in every WalMart I've been in (and tons of copies). Places like EB and these online retailers just don't get as many copies as the larger department stores. Since when is it a shortage if an EB/Gamestop doesn't have a game? They get like 3 copies extra on top of their pre-orders.

I'm not saying Nintendo isn't purposely shipping fewer of them... but at least wait for some real proof before shitting yourselves. Everyone go check your WalMarts before letting the tears flow.

Edit: And hey, look at that. Twilight Princess for the Wii isn't in stock on ebgames.com or bestbuy.com!! Nintendo must be not shipping as many so people buy the GCN version.... oh wait...
How many people own a Wii? 1.5 million at the most?
How many own a GCN? Around 20 million, I think?
Which Zelda will sell more? Hmmm... lets think.

[Codicier]

*Insane laugh*

No no you guys just don't understand *crazy gleam in eye* There's plenty of copies of Zelda... *licks lips, furtive glances* we just need to CUT THEM OUT OF EVERY EB EMPLOYEE AT THE STORE! *manical laugh*

...................................

Seriously, fuck Nintendo. This is absolute bullshit.

[Nate Graves]

That said, Nintendo really must not want my $50 then. I guess I'll buy a rice cooker instead.

For $50? How much rice are you cooking?

I paid $10 for mine.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

I went to 5 retailers this morning... Gamestop, Wal-Mart (2), FYE and K-Mart.

The first 4 didn't recieve any. K-Mart had about 10 in stock. So I lucked out.

[automaton]

I want to echo the sentiment expressed by UnderHero5. You people need to get off your asses and look at a brick and mortar store. I had the exact same experience with Pink DS Lite. I wanted to get my wife one. I saw them everywhere a month ago so I didn't worry about getting one yet. Last week I went online to purchase one and EVERYWHERE was sold out. I started to freak. Then I checked at my local Best Buy and they had like 5 of them on the shelf.

Just because the online retailers don't have GC Zelda doesn't mean you can't find it if you get in a car and drive somewhere. Most people still do Christmas shopping the old fashion way so it makes sense to send more copies to the actual stores. And if you are a retailer, wouldn't you rather sell more merchandise in a store where Johnny Consumer is likely to impulsively purchase other of your crap while navigating your labyrinthine halls?

[crashedout]

I went out at lunch: Kmart - nada, Walmart - expected later, Target - we hope we get them later. I live on the east coast, so we always seem to get releases later than everyone. There are tons of threads about EB/Gamestops not filling their pre-orders...that could be due to the long wait on this title or it could be do to Nintendo shorting them. If you hit BB or CC later and they don't have it, then yes this is a shortage. Won't know til then.

[Chimpbot]

For what it's worth guys, my pre-ordered copy of the Gamecube version shipped yesterday from EB.

So...yeah. I guess I'll have both that and Elebits within a couple days...I hope.

Between the two, I'd actually rather have Elebits...

[JawaSnack]

We have three Super Wal-Marts (soon to be four) and they all have the Gamecube ver. Zelda TP in stock...

I think the big retailers (Wal-Mart/Target/BestBuy/CC) will have them avaiable. Don't count on the online availability being all there is!

[51|RandoM]

People slam MS for dropping the Xbox support as soon as the 360 was released. Will people slam Nintendo for the same??

IMHO, Nintendo dropped support for the cube *before* the Wii was released.

:p

[Sandman]

IMHO, Nintendo dropped support for the cube *before* the Wii was released.

:p

Wasn't there Super Paper Mario still to come for the cube....or did something happen to that?

[Chimpbot]

Wasn't there Super Paper Mario still to come for the cube....or did something happen to that?

If I recall correctly, I think they moved that to the Wii as well...

*EDIT*
Ah, I was correct!
PROOF! (http://cube.ign.com/objects/827/827016.html)

FURTHER PROOF! (http://wii.ign.com/objects/853/853822.html)


The more I think about it, the more I simply have to agree with the folks who say the Gamecube was abandoned about a year ago; Nintendo pulled the few big titles they were going to be releasing on it in favor of porting them over to the Wii.
Ultimately, I don't mind...mainly because I've owned a Wii since November 19th. I don't have to worry about being one of the folks who is essentially getting shit on by Nintendo for not adopting their latest and greatest hardware.
They've actually done worse than Microsoft when they abandoned the original Xbox; at least Microsoft didn't abandon their previous console until after their new one was released. Nintendo gave up on their's last November when they initially delayed Twilight Princess.

[Headcase]

I think there's so much bad will because it's thought Nintendo might be using a sleazy tactic. In order to promote and sell more Wii's, they're putting out very few copies of the Gamecube version of Zelda. That way, in order to have the "privilege" of playing Zelda, you must get a Wii.

That alone wouldn't be so bad. What makes it worse is that Nintendo promised this on the GC for years and it constantly got delayed ("but don't worry, it will still be a GC game") until now where it's basically a Wii game.

(I'd like to mention at this point that Wii Zelda is, perhaps along with Wii Sports, the only Nintendo-made Wii game that really has a hand in the selling the system).

It's actually better that it's on the Wii because they use the pointing mechanic well. But they gave loyal GC owners the shaft big time.

[ChaosDent]

I just walked into a Wal-Mart and picked the Gamecube Twilight Princess up. All the major B&M stores in my area have them available. I'm calling shenanigans on this "short supply."

[Headcase]

IMHO, Nintendo dropped support for the cube *before* the Wii was released.

:p

That emoticon isn't necessary. Here's a list (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=11&mode=all&sort=post_date&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc) of the most recent games on the GC. The most recent one I can see published by Nintendo is Odama, back in April, then Super Mario Strikers, from a year ago.

Take out the sports games, and the only game rated 8 (from Gamespot, but play with me) from this year was Harvest Moon: Magical Melody. I actually rented that and maybe it gets good after the first 50000 hours but as far as I got is was terrible to me.

Luckily the GC has lots of good games from earlier in its life span to fill up that dismal year, so it hasn't been collecting dust (until now... if I wanted to play a GC game I'll use my Wii).

[Headcase]

I just walked into a Wal-Mart and picked the Gamecube Twilight Princess up. All the major B&M stores in my area have them available. I'm calling shenanigans on this "short supply."

Look, we're all trying to look impartial by finding something to fault Nintendo on so Sony fanboys don't say "LOLZ EVIL AVATR NEVR SAYS NETHING BAD ABOUT NOFRIENDO!!", we have no need to bring reality into this ;)

[Ultima Thulian]

I found my copy of the GCN version of Twilight Princess rather easily. I didn't know it would be such a collector's item. According to Zeal, some dumbasses are already paying $100 for it, this makes me a happy panda. A great game that will actually have some re-sale value, whaddya know? Though I wouldn't get rid of the game, it is fucking awesome. The only way I'd sell is if I got another copy or got the Wii version (though I'd rather have the cube one).

[cp#]

It was on sale at Bestbuy.com for $38 dollars the other day people. Now it's regular price.

[LogainAblar]

What's up with these kinds of comments? I see them in nearly every Nintendo thread, and they are just silly. Nintendo doesn't get a free pass around here - people give them shit all the time.

Are we reading the same threads?

[Nate Graves]

I just walked into a Wal-Mart and picked the Gamecube Twilight Princess up. All the major B&M stores in my area have them available. I'm calling shenanigans on this "short supply."

Shush, you. We don't need reality getting out there.

I've already made $200 in TP sales, let's keep this under wraps until I can afford to buy a Wii.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

Further investigation finds that one guy bought rougly 50 copies of TP from both local Wal-Marts and put them on ebay. Gamestop had about half of their pre-orders, and I guess K-Mart has had theirs on sale since yesterday, but there game section is so rag tag and un-organized it's not surprise nobody found them.

[vanlandw]

As i posted in the Weekly Release thread I live in Grand Rapids Michigan and found tons of copies at BB's and CC's. If you really want this game I can't see it being a problem to find it. Hopefully I've been unable to find firm numbers on the release count.

[Rirath]

Got my copy at Wal-Mart.

[Goronmon]

I'm almost tempted to pick up the GC version instead of waiting until I can afford to buy a Wii.

[Zeal]

Someone post online retailers in this thread when the game becomes available.

[Nate Graves]

The game is available online...just for about $20 more than retail.

About $10 more on ebay...not horrible, just not great.

Just get in your car and go to the store. The only people that have a serious shortage (having just called a couple of my old gamestop buddies) are eb/gamestop. Apparently a lot of stores didn't even get enough to fufill their pre-order obligations.

One of my manager friends said they only got half.

Stuff like that pisses me off, and I'd really like to know how decisions like that get made. I remember working the 360 launch and not having enough consoles, but having people finding them on the shelves at Sears and Best Buy.

Who decides on the distribution in cases like that? Why don't they have enough?

[Magnanimous Gnome]

For $50? How much rice are you cooking?

I paid $10 for mine.



I've gotta buy the shiniest, most expensive damn rice cooker I can find. :p

[NeoSuplex]

Looks like my work was done for me...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/NeoSuplex/Zelda.jpg
All hail Game Fly, Layaway for gamers.

[MajSheppard]

Unless someone can give me some numbers on how many copies were shipped by Nintendo, I do not want to hear any conspiricy theories or anything. I assume they figured out how many copies of the game they might sell and sent out Gamecube versions to fill out the numbers of the Wii copies sold.

That may be less then expected, but then its really just because sales of WW were low and they accounted for too little. I do not buy any manufactoring shortages or Wii sales conspiricys as it is simply not needed.

The Wii can't stay in stock, why would any company sacrifice sales for no gain?

[Rirath]

Stuff like that pisses me off, and I'd really like to know how decisions like that get made. I remember working the 360 launch and not having enough consoles, but having people finding them on the shelves at Sears and Best Buy.

The 360 preorders here at Gamestop were crazy... 6 months later people still didn't have the ones they preordered. The Wal-mart next door started getting in a few consoles here and there around spring when the new shipments rolled out though, and I snagged one there.

[SaintArnold]

I saw this at Best Buy, Wal-Mart, and Circuit City while doing my holiday shopping today. I don't think it's going to be hard to find, at least not at B&M stores.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

That may be less then expected, but then its really just because sales of WW were low and they accounted for too little.

2.5 million is low?

[bardockkun]

I got mine at Circuit City no problem for $38. From what the worker told, they had 14 for the day but should be getting more. Also got my Talladega Nights! WOOOO SHAKE AND BAKE!

[wyeast]

The game is available online...just for about $20 more than retail.

About $10 more on ebay...not horrible, just not great.

Just get in your car and go to the store. The only people that have a serious shortage (having just called a couple of my old gamestop buddies) are eb/gamestop. Apparently a lot of stores didn't even get enough to fufill their pre-order obligations.

One of my manager friends said they only got half.

Stuff like that pisses me off, and I'd really like to know how decisions like that get made. I remember working the 360 launch and not having enough consoles, but having people finding them on the shelves at Sears and Best Buy.

Who decides on the distribution in cases like that? Why don't they have enough?
Yeah, but wasn't there some shenanigans about EB/Gamestop taking a ridiculous number of 360 preorders vs. their expected shipping #'s? Add in that they're going to be higher profile in the Wii market because of the playable kiosks, and you can easily have eyes bigger than your stomach with taking in names for Zelda.

... or I need to lay off the peyote quit dreaming up conspiracy theories. :D

[Nate Graves]

Yeah, but wasn't there some shenanigans about EB/Gamestop taking a ridiculous number of 360 preorders vs. their expected shipping #'s? Add in that they're going to be higher profile in the Wii market because of the playable kiosks, and you can easily have eyes bigger than your stomach with taking in names for Zelda.

... or I need to lay off the peyote quit dreaming up conspiracy theories. :D

I can say from a managerial standpoint that we had no idea for the longest time what we were getting in shipping numbers. Our district manager didn't know, our MS rep didn't know, we just kept getting fed contradictory statements left and right.

We played it very conservative with reservations, stopping when we were told we had hit maximum and then starting again when were told we were go for x-number more: "Okay, you can reserve 20 more systems, but not more than that."

So when we got screwed at launch? The same BS for months afterwards. No one really knew when we were getting more in.

[MajSheppard]

2.5 million is low?

Are you saying they shipped 2.5 million GC units of Zelda?

[automaton]

I think he is pretty clearly saying that they SOLD 2.5 million units of Wind Waker.

[Deadend]

My Toys R Us got in a nice load of them today... but mostly they are for the preorders we have been doing for at least 2 years now.

[Codicier]

I retract my previous fuck Nintendo comment. EB called earlier today and said my two preordered copies of TP were in. All is forgiven. Well...not all, it's still bullshit that this is even a big deal at all. You can almost feel the pillow Ninty is using to smother GC owners. They want us to convert to the Wii *bad*. I don't know why, it's not like they're not enjoying considerable success without the people who have a GC and not a Wii.

Anyway whatever.

[fitbabits]

I just picked up a copy of TP for the GC from BB.

[childish]

and we got a ton of them in today....it was even in our ad so most best buys should have them also.

[theguido]

I work at Best Buy and we got over 35 in stock......I still have over 20 sitting on my shelf. Seriously, because it's Christmas, hot items are going to be focused in the stores in order to try and bring people in----so try you're local Best Buy/Target/Wal-Mart, etc. They probably have it.

[Zeal]

Wow, all of my local stores (Circuit City, Best Buy, Sears) are sold out, and so are all of the online retailers. Anyone know where to buy this online?

[KingGorilla]

Wow, all of my local stores (Circuit City, Best Buy, Sears) are sold out, and so are all of the online retailers. Anyone know where to buy this online?
Yeah Get a Wii, that is Nintendo's plan after all.

[Zeal]

Yeah Get a Wii, that is Nintendo's plan after all.
God, shut the fuck up. I have a Wii.

1) I can't find component cables for Wii
2) My GCN already has them
3) I hate playing with the retarded toothbrush remote

[Zeal]

Ah nevermind...I just gave it and bought it on eScam for 64 bones.

[Nate Graves]

Ah nevermind...I just gave it and bought it on eScam for 64 bones.

...you know, I did mention earlier in the thread that there's a ton of them readily available by me.

[Codicier]

Well those two TP copies are now sitting atop an unopened Xbox 360 in the corner of my room. Goddamnit these exams need to end NOW!

[KingGorilla]

God, shut the fuck up. I have a Wii.

1) I can't find component cables for Wii
2) My GCN already has them
3) I hate playing with the retarded toothbrush remote
Toothbrush? I don't get it?

I will disregard the Shut the Fuck Up, trolls can be cranky and I should ahve known better than yo respond to somethign you said. :(

[Ultima Thulian]

The game IS NOT RARE. It is simply in high demand, higher than Nintendo expected, thus they're sold out in a lot of place. Hence the rumors of them being "rare". This game is no rarer than Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Final Fantasy III (SNES). Not rare, just high demand. Don't scam yourself and buy overpriced copies.

[Nate Graves]

The game IS NOT RARE. It is simply in high demand, higher than Nintendo expected, thus they're sold out in a lot of place.

Tell that to all the people who aren't getting their preorders at GameStop.

[Ultima Thulian]

http://www.thesimexchange.com/stock.php?id=19

Again...not rare. It's sold out. Nintendo will bring more copies of the game because they'll sell. Sorry, Nate. But rare this game is not.

[Nate Graves]

http://www.thesimexchange.com/stock.php?id=19

Again...not rare. It's sold out. Nintendo will bring more copies of the game because they'll sell. Sorry, Nate. But rare this game is not.

I actually never intended to disagree with you, I just never got an answer to my previous question regarding GS pre-order fuck ups like this.

Just get in your car and go to the store. The only people that have a serious shortage (having just called a couple of my old gamestop buddies) are eb/gamestop. Apparently a lot of stores didn't even get enough to fufill their pre-order obligations.

One of my manager friends said they only got half.

Stuff like that pisses me off, and I'd really like to know how decisions like that get made. I remember working the 360 launch and not having enough consoles, but having people finding them on the shelves at Sears and Best Buy.

Who decides on the distribution in cases like that? Why don't they have enough?

[Zeal]

The game isn't rare, it's simply unavailable due to Nintendo shipping extremely limited quantities. Anyone who can't realize that Nintendo is attempting to force consumers to buy the Wii version is an idiot.

So, well, yeah, I guess you could call it rare for the time being. I ended up paying about $15 over retail price for a copy on eBay, but whatever.

I'd rather pay $15 extra to play in component and with a normal controller anyway.