The Press: Playstation 3 - The Real Next Generation

[Borys]

After the two out of three press conferences first post-E3 comments are showing up around... and they are pretty much one-sided.

First is GameIndustry.biz with the article "Xbox 360 is outgunned and outclassed by Sony's PS3" (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=8834):

The bar which was set by Microsoft last week has not only been met, it has been vaulted over. PlayStation 3 is more powerful, more fully featured, more innovative and better supported than Xbox 360. When the Sony conference kicked off, we expected to see something "a bit better" than Xbox, technologically. We didn't expect to have our most fundamental beliefs about what next-generation games will be capable of changed. That, however, is exactly what happened.


Next, EuroGamer with a similiar piece "Xbox 360 fails to convince in LA" (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59135):

Which is a shame, because Sony's PlayStation 3 announcement this afternoon certainly was. The machine's spec has left experts watchers stunned. Read this and this and this. Xbox 360 was on the back foot before the Microsoft conference even started, and considering what Sony showed, Microsoft's new beast suddenly looks flat, from a games sense at least. The Live stuff, as we've said, looked brilliant. But the games simply didn't give the air of being truly "next gen".


Now before any of you 360 flamers rushes in please go to GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/) and check some PS3 footage.
Mindblowing and I'm not talking about that CG Killzone.

[bapenguin]

Sony definitley impressed me. But it's not with the graphics, which in all honesty after watching the HD vids from Fileshack, aren't that much better than the 360's. What impressed me is all the options for expansion, all the ports, etc. Hardware wise, it's really not that much more powerful than the XBox 360. Nobody really knows what the cell can do, and even if the full thing can be utilized yet. There's some good hardware comparison over at Hardforum (http://www.hardforum.com), especially comparing the video cards of the two systems.

[Adam Blue]

I'm not getting the 'feeling' of a difference between the two so far. I plan on buying them both. The one thing that I like about the 360 more than the PS3 is the online plan.

[Hellstorm]

Next up to put the smack down on the 360 is the Revolution! Go Nintendo.

[Vandenh]

Errr Borys. GI and EG are the same company, so both articles are from the same writers.

And yes Sony impressed... that they pulled the same old crap again (and EG fell for it). Only Unreal 3 was apparently realtime (and who knows... maybe it was running on a 360 :)

[Borys]

I wouldn't worry about the online part in PS3. They already said it will be "always online" (whatever that means) besides remember that they still have E3 2006 for some shocking news.

For the E3 2005 conference - they really nailed it. First 20 minutes of business/ spec talk (190M of Playstations sold, 2B of PS games sold etc.) and then a massive onslaught of jawdropping trailers. Of course they weren't all real-time (Killzone - I'm looking at you) but boy did they make waves...

Even xbox.ign.com is negative about MS conference... what exactly went wrong? No games? Allard fooling around? Too "hip"?

[Thenetcase]

Nintendo has always taken their consoles seriously (mainly because that's all they have to go on).

On the other hand, the Gamecube was silly. I didn't like it and most of the people who bought it were either parents for their kids or girls. ;) (Commence spamming)
I don't think that Nintendo will really compete properly this time around. It's my personal opinion and I hope to be dead wrong. They aim so much for the cutsy-pie market that they're going to end being left out in the cold if they keep that trend up.
There is also the possability that the reason they aren't showing their hand is because they're letting MS and Sony have their fun before the napalm the hell out of them. Could go either way. Or maybe they'll just fold.

Sony and Microsoft have an interesting battle ahead.
Both of them have formidable machines and they look great. I think that the PS3 may actually be more powerful than the xBox360, but the problem is that we haven't seen what can actually really be done with the xBox360. And I'm completely unconvinced by what everyone says is real-time. You can easily move a 360º camera around a pre-rendered 3D scene (anyone watch the special features on The Incredibles second DVD?). That would make it feel real-time but it wouldn't be. I think that real-time is where two people have controllers in-hand and actually play the game in front of the crowd. At least that's what Sony will need to do to convince me after their nice little stunt with Killzone CG.

I'm looking forward to this war. I don't really use Live! from MS, so I could end up going either way on this one. Or I might buy a Nintendo, depending on what THEY have up their sleeve.

-TNC-

[Furious Wang]

Yes! The PS3's ability to display CGI far surpasses the Xbox 360's! I'm sold!

[Thenetcase]

PS. Another reason I'm not convinced that Fight Night was real time is because the last screen showed the titled of "RenderWare" at the bottom. Anyone want to take a guess at what THAT does?

[bapenguin]

I could give two shits about who had the better press conference. Just give me the games.

Things I like I've read about the new XBox/Live are the spectator modes. It'd be sweet to be able to watch some matches from top "ranked" players, learn new tricks and playstyles that way. The overall ranking system will be great as well to match you up with players of similar game playing caliber. I hope Sony/Nintendo offers similar products in their online strategy, though...I don't see this happening.

[lpmiller]

render under pants?

[CapnBob]

Renderware is a middleware engine that is used to make games like Burnout and Grand Theft Auto.

[Borys]

Errr Borys. GI and EG are the same company, so both articles are from the same writers.

And yes Sony impressed... that they pulled the same old crap again (and EG fell for it). Only Unreal 3 was apparently realtime (and who knows... maybe it was running on a 360 :)

How should I know ?

Thanks for the info anyway!

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NINTENDO CONFERENCE IS ON! Check your streams, mine works without audio :( Reggie's on scene.

[Furious Wang]

Whoa! RE 4 for the PS2 looks GOOD! Can't wait to pick it up. Hopefully it will have some extras too.

[ldi222]

Sony did a great job of hype with rendered video and spec diagrams. I will not catch those vapors until I see this mystical "cell" actually launch in North America without delays. It was great pomp and circumstance, outstanding PR counter to Microsofts efforts. I hope for their sake they didnt bite off more than they can chew with this borderline deceptive display of strength.

[Ghost_Saint]

Hello, how did the PS2 do compared to the Xbox, and which one was obviously more powerful?

[Dirty Harry]

Sony did a great job of hype with rendered video and spec diagrams. I will not catch those vapors until I see this mystical "cell" actually launch in North America without delays. It was great pomp and circumstance, outstanding PR counter to Microsofts efforts. I hope for their sake they didnt bite off more than they can chew with this borderline deceptive display of strength.
I dont see how this is deceptive, have you even seen that real time fps for ps3 with no name?. those graphics were on the level of the game s.t.a.l.k.e.r and that isnt even released yet. Things are promising.

[KarmaGhost]

Yes! The PS3's ability to display CGI far surpasses the Xbox 360's! I'm sold!Ha! Exactly what I've been thinking. I've never felt so confused and unsure about whether what I'm being shown is CGI or realtime. I wish they would just come out and say it, it doesn't make any sense to keep us in the dark about things like that. We'll find out in the end.

[zangster]

I still think Xbox Live is going to be a major factor in gaming this next generation. When you consider that Microsoft is building on an already established million or so subscribers and they've got the infrastructure and experience to keep going in a positive direction. Sony and Nintendo are already a few years behind in the online department and they've got to play catch-up while Microsoft can continue to innovate proven technology. Ultimately, I'm just excited that new games and technology are coming out.

[DefeatEd]

DirtyHarry,

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. looks great, but for something packing spex like the PS3, I would expect much more than "as good as" an almost-current-gen game...

The PS3 clips @ GameTrailers are nice, but most of them looked to be pre-rendered, with little (if any) in-game footage. (I think "5th Phantom Saga" and the "Untitled FPS" are exceptions to that.)

Microsoft's Xbox360 footage may not be as spectacular, but it certainly looked more "real".

I reserve judgement, for now. With that said, I think the "winner", at least for me, will be the system that can consistently deliver good looking games (a la Ninja Gaiden for Xbox) with incredible online components (like Halo 2.)

[MosBen]

Seriously, all of this is hype and none of this should be really believed as gospel. The truth is that all three companies have, at one time or another, made somewhat misleading statements about the capabilities of their hardware. And maybe this is a little unfair, but my memory places Sony as the worst perpetrator of these types of misleading statements.

Long story short, I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm going to see the reality of MS's offering much sooner than I will see Sony's. Also, hardware specs are always nice, but ultimately it all comes down to games.

[Furious Wang]

I wish I still had a copy of the Emotion Ridge Racer Girl video Sony showed for the PS2 a few years back. Tech Demo's are always going to be 3-4x better looking than actual gameplay...because the system isn't calculating any gameplay. You should see the graphics demos my computer can run, then compare it to the framerate/resolution I get in HL 2 3 =/.

The funniest thing I've heard so far (other than the PS3 controller), was Sweeney saying the PS3 was "easy to program for". Later on he also claimed he had found the WMDs in Iraq, caught Osama, developed a process for cold fusion, invented a perpetual motion device and met his dreamgirl on adultfriendfinder.com

Albert Einstien: Quantum Physics is easy!

[eatme]

The battle has been decided! The winner: the Sony hype machine beats the Microsoft hype machine.

But come on, was that really any surprise? We all remember last generation's hype debacle. Sure, there will be the standard idiots and flamers who buy into one side's hype or the other, and more will buy into Sony's because they're clearly better at it.

For the rest of us, however, we'll have to wait until the games come out. All the footage you're seeing isn't even from XBox 360 or PS3-- it's from PCs made up to perform sort of a little bit like those consoles. So the real superior platform, apparently, is the PC. :)


To answer an earlier question: to give a super vague, inaccurate in many cases sort of figure, XBox is about 2.5-3x as powerful as PS2, raw horsepower. PS3 is looking to be (if they stick with what they've specced) about 2x as powerful as XBox360, though it really depends on what people can get out of those SPEs.

[KNOTE]

It was a good press conference. And the machine seems powerful. Though I will say this: One company showed realtime games. One showed pre rendered CG. So I'd say Sony has won the hype contest, but they haven't showed which platform is better yet.

[Crenor]

All the PS3 videos, are videos, not gameplay. Not really a good indication of what it can do at all.

[EL CABONG]

[QUOTE=MosBen]Seriously, all of this is hype and none of this should be really believed as gospel. The truth is that all three companies have, at one time or another, made somewhat misleading statements about the capabilities of their hardware. And maybe this is a little unfair, but my memory places Sony as the worst perpetrator of these types of misleading statements.

Long story short, I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm going to see the reality of MS's offering much sooner than I will see Sony's. Also, hardware specs are always nice, but ultimately it all comes down to games.

I agree. but also think online support like live or whatever sony comes up with will also play a big part. Plus I hope MS and sonys machines both sell well so they both have to push each other to put out great games kind like the old console wars with ninntendo and sega.

[LilEvilFish]

FFS can we get off the "my graphics are bigger than your graphics" storyline. I couldn't give a crap about what they look like, if the games are gonna be frustrating to play or reliant too much on graphical splendor then I won't buy any of the stupid things. I'll plug my Mega Drive in and play Road Rash! But eek that's an EA game I must be selling out.

</rant after work>

[Ernst_Jager]

Everyone loves to hate Microsoft. Personally I am still more excited about the 360 than I am the PS3. I wonder what we will think this time next year?

[Rakael]

My god this site really is biased in favor of MS. :rolleyes:

What we are seeing from both companies is hype, pure and simple. I do find it very funny though that MS's specs are beleived hook, line, and sinker while Sony's are "ohhh, no, that cant be right". I think they are both releasing hyped up bullshit and am reserving judgement until I actually see a game played before my eyes.

Although, from the hyped up specs, Sony has clearly won in power (unless the cell just goes into meltdown or something). MS has already won in the online arena (though I suppose I could be suprised). Nintendo seems to be just sitting in a corner fondeling themselves (though I'm praying they really aren't as stupid as they seem to be nowdays), but they haven't released any hard numbers as of yet.

[EL CABONG]

Everyone loves to hate Microsoft. Personally I am still more excited about the 360 than I am the PS3. I wonder what we will think this time next year?
instead of hardware will be bitching about Halo 3 and the next GTA or whatever.

[Liquidize105]

This "console war" is being raged in people's minds who have only PR propaganda to go by.

I won't sit around and argue about phantom specs, all I know is that so far only nintendo promises to do something out of the ordinary.

[falak]

The funniest thing I've heard so far (other than the PS3 controller), was Sweeney saying the PS3 was "easy to program for"Apparently the PS3 is easy to program for, due to some compiler or something Toshiba have developed (I clearly have no idea). And Einstein's discoveries went against quantum mechanics. Apparently he hated the theories. Just so you know. ;)

I thought most around these here parts hated Sony? I don't really hate either one. It's the developers they snare that make or break a console. Although saying that, I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony have on offer, if for no other reason than they've given themselves more time. I'd like to see what choices Nintendo make this generation, too. I guess Microsoft give the impression that they're not really talking to me. I know attracting a wider audience is a wet dream for all three, but Microsoft don't have to make it so obvious! :D

[Talanvor]

Something I've been kicking around in my head for awhile is the idea that maybe Microsoft is okay with the PS3 being more powerful than the 360. Thinking that the developers will be able to squeeze enough "extra" performance out of the 360 so it looks just as good as the launch titles for the PS3. They will have an extra year, give or take.

Any of you guys here who make games, do Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo have programmers and such just to help the 3rd party developers out with their games? Something along the lines of finding a way to render a texture a little faster or get more polygons on the screen without taking more resources? I could see 3rd party developers not sharing "secrets" with each other, but I'd tend to think it'd be advantageous for the console makers to give the devs help in selling more product.

Come on Nintendo, show us what you can do. I haven't even bought a GameCube and I don't want to see them have another round like this last one.

[Furious Wang]

God, the Sony fans cry "Bias!" more than Limbaugh Hannity and Oreilly combined. Just so you know:

Bias = A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.

The love for Microsoft round here is in fact, quite impartial. Everyone here that has an Xbox has had a PS2 or PS1 at some point and make their judgements objectively based on their experiences and historical fact. A far better term to use would be predilection.

[51|RandoM]

I guess sony had somebody we could take a bit more serious than allard at their conference?

[CaptStu]

If you want to pander to your Sony fanboy instincts, go to Joystiq.com. They'll give you all you want and then some.

[AspectVoid]

Question from the back! Why are people even bothering to argue over this stuff? What it's going to come down to is peoples choices in games. I'm an RPG freak, so for me, the PS2 was the best system of this generation. My best friend loves FPSs and Action games, so its understandable that the X-box is his favorite console of this generation.

Frankly, it doesn't matter which system is more powerful, what matters is what system has the games YOU enjoy. To find that out will most likely take another year or two.

[Furious Wang]

Well said Aspect

[TRiLoGY]

Yeah! Well said Aspect!

Im going for the PS3 based on the games! Almost all of the games that were on the XBOX were also on PC, and since Ive got a Kick-Ass PC I would get them for PC instead! Also, I've always Prefered playing 1st person Shooters on PC

I love the Range of games that the Playstation has had. Final Fantasy, Pro Evolution Soccer, Gran Turismo, GTA, Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, SSX... + many many more..

[petedog]

Am I the only one who appreciates the fact that these are coming out a year apart. This way I don't have to choose between the 2, I can buy the 360 this Nov. and the PS3 next november without dropping $1k on game systems within a month.

[rein]

I will just sum it up this way as someone who sales game systems to average customers who do not know a lot about video games. Microsoft has lost every advantage over Sony next generation that they had this one. I can no longer point to a built in hard drive for saves, better graphics or newer system when someone asks. Sony and Nintendo on the other hand has built in backward compatibility and both will be newer systems by the time it really starts to matter.

[Buddha Lotus]

I agree with both EATME and RAKAEL

The XBOX is 7 months away.. and the PS3 is a fucking YEAR away.

Its nice announcemnets.. but its hard for me to get worked up now.

[bradlay]

I will buy them both. Then I will buy action games I cannot resist, hate them and never finish them.

[Rommel]

I thought most around these here parts hated Sony?

A lot of people dislike that the PS2 pretty much killed the Dreamcast, which was a better machine in many ways. Another reason why we all dislike EA, for turning Sega into a dev house, and a bad one at that. Also, the PS2 likes to break on people.

Frankly, it doesn't matter which system is more powerful, what matters is what system has the games YOU enjoy.

Well there are two things of note here...

First are the multi-system titles. This generation, the difference between them was noticible on the different systems. Not only the graphics, but the input devices had a tendency to make them feel like entirely different games. Yes, four shoulder buttons for SSX is much better than two or three, and D-Pads are still sometimes the way to go. Thankfully, it looks like all systems are online which will greatly even the playing field. If the Revolution is as weak as it seems comparitively, it might not be possible to port those sports games to it in any respectible fashion.

Second is developers. We may all love first party Nintendo games (When they actually make games like the new Zelda and not wierd experiments like Mario Sunshine) but if they do not have a working relationship people who own only one of the systems will find very sparse offerings, coming only sporatically.

Most of these speculations are based on the "one system" assumption. Even though most of us will have more than a simple console, we argue based on the assumption only one console is available to one person. This theoretical argmuent allows us to compare which machine is the best overall, because we can then argue which machine is the right choice when the options are more limited. If you have every game for every system, you lose a lot of debate (And thusly fun web banter) possibilities.

[Mason]

Borys,

What's with the fanboyism? This is the second or third thread/submission you've made about Sony winning this generation. Everyone on this site has an opinion, and I'm not sure why you think we're so interested in yours.

We're still in the marketing fluff phase. We've seen precious little footage of actual gameplay for much of anything. I guess we can chalk it up to hype-induced temporary insanity, but it is getting a little annoying.

[Thin_J]

I'm extremely likely to buy each of them on their respective release days.

I will never understand why people argue and bicker over this stuff. It makes no sense! It's not like you're going to convince someone to like one or the other.

Me? I see plenty of positives about both. I love MS's online plans, as they look to improve on the already excellent Xbox Live, and I'm glad Sony's hardware will actually be competitive this generation and they're not going to "win" the generation based solely on their hype and overall popularity.

I hope it comes down to a big shootout by each company on who can get the best games released on their respective systems. That's when we, the gamers, actually get the most out of the whole shebang. I want a big competition based on the games themselves.

Why does anyone care how pretty games are going to be on each of the systems if nobody has any idea if any of these games are actually going to be fun to play?

*sigh*

I guess I'm going to have to return to lurking on every forum and just ignoring all the hype and "console war" bullshit.

[Stryfe01]

[QUOTE=MosBen]Seriously, all of this is hype and none of this should be really believed as gospel. The truth is that all three companies have, at one time or another, made somewhat misleading statements about the capabilities of their hardware. And maybe this is a little unfair, but my memory places Sony as the worst perpetrator of these types of misleading statements.

Long story short, I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm going to see the reality of MS's offering much sooner than I will see Sony's. Also, hardware specs are always nice, but ultimately it all comes down to games.

I agree. but also think online support like live or whatever sony comes up with will also play a big part. Plus I hope MS and sonys machines both sell well so they both have to push each other to put out great games kind like the old console wars with ninntendo and sega.


That's about the most sensible thing i've read today. I really do plan on buying PS3 and 360. I have all 4 consoles now (don't discount the DC!) and I'd gladly pass those down to my son when he gets old enough. With a library full of good to great games. I think this generation, everyone will be a winner.

Well that is if Nintendo can give us some ORIGINAL stuff also. Not remakes, retold or "re-envisioned". I'm not talking "adult" games either, just original fun games. I could care less if they had the flashiest graphics.

[Borys]

Borys,

What's with the fanboyism? This is the second or third thread/submission you've made about Sony winning this generation. Everyone on this site has an opinion, and I'm not sure why you think we're so interested in yours.

We're still in the marketing fluff phase. We've seen precious little footage of actual gameplay for much of anything. I guess we can chalk it up to hype-induced temporary insanity, but it is getting a little annoying.

I'm the counterbalance.
Besides I didn't wrote those articles, they aren't mine - only the italized part is so I don't know what your point is.

[Mason]

I'm the counterbalance.
Besides I didn't wrote those articles, they aren't mine - only the italized part is so I don't know what your point is.

Counterbalance to what? You think no one around here owns Playstations or something? Yeah, liking the PS3 is a rebellious attitude.

One of the great things about EvAv is that the voices of reason tend to keep the fanboy bickering slightly more subdued than other gaming sites. Posting flamebait about who's won the console wars literally hours after the new machines were displayed, based on a very handpicked set of article links, is silly and childish, and doesn't fit in with the usual quality of the site.

And don't feign objectivity, your italicized comment demonstrates that you knew it was flamebait. It cheapens and degrades any conversation we might have about the consoles to try and start fanboy holy wars, and you know it.

Sane people all think of consoles the same way: you buy them when they have enough good games out that you have to buy them. There are games that will probably be good for both of the consoles. We don't really know; very few of the trailers I've seen had any gameplay footage.

[Pumped'Up]

I was right about the PS3 and 360. Yes, I told you so, but many of you still went ahead and pre-ordered the 360, an obviously sub-par (and fugly) system.

LOL.

[Pumped'Up]

Really, why waste time and money on the 360? PS3 is superior in EVERY aspect. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been seriously brain washed by Gates and Micro$haft from their Xbox fiasco.

[mister_slim]

Really, why waste time and money on the 360? PS3 is superior in EVERY aspect. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been seriously brain washed by Gates and Micro$haft from their Xbox fiasco.
Does anyone else agree that the ability to spell increases credibility? As someone who has criticized the Xbox and MS a lot, I think you should shut up.
PS. Another reason I'm not convinced that Fight Night was real time is because the last screen showed the titled of "RenderWare" at the bottom. Anyone want to take a guess at what THAT does?
RenderWare is the middleware solution from Criterion, makers of Burnout. It is the primary reason EA bought them. Games using it include GTA, Winning Eleven, and Tony Hawk.
Seriously, all of this is hype and none of this should be really believed as gospel. The truth is that all three companies have, at one time or another, made somewhat misleading statements about the capabilities of their hardware. And maybe this is a little unfair, but my memory places Sony as the worst perpetrator of these types of misleading statements.
Yeah, though Nintendo tends to be more conservative with their estimates. Last gen, the claims were, IIRC: PS2, 100M polys/sec, Xbox, 100M p/s, GC, 12M p/s. Hmm. Seems as though some of these numbers are not realistic. Anyway, the claims for the 360 are 500M p/s, but it's a pretty meaningless number by itself.
It was a good press conference. And the machine seems powerful. Though I will say this: One company showed realtime games. One showed pre rendered CG. So I'd say Sony has won the hype contest, but they haven't showed which platform is better yet.
And Nintendo somewhat lost, which is fine with me. Some lowered expectations would work out better for them anyway.

[bapenguin]

Really, why waste time and money on the 360? PS3 is superior in EVERY aspect. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been seriously brain washed by Gates and Micro$haft from their Xbox fiasco.

XBox fiasco? Hmm...first generation console overtakes long time 4th generation console manufacturer as #2 in the market? That's a fiasco?

If you really think the PS3 is THAT much better than the XBox 360 by the numbers...you need a reality check.

[Kelegacy]

How can I hate Sony? They have given me 10 years of gaming bliss. They pushed videogaming into the mainstream (for better or worse). They offered backwards compatability that forced the new standard (minus Microsoft's semi-debacle in this regard). They gave me such a huge variety of gaming genres that I was never starved for anything (i hungered for RPG's for years with the MS, and it still is a pretty small genre compared to the others on that system). Some of the best games I've ever played have been on a Sony machine. The controllers were great too, and played off the SNES's button layout and added some great new features to create one of the best ever. I also have never had a problem with the hardware, though others obviously have. Maybe I pamper mine too much?

That being said, Sony would have to really fuck up to lose me as a customer. They seem to be a quiet giant these days, throwing up secretive ad campaigns (mysterious billboards reminiscent of the Red E) while they let Microsoft throw up a "hip" baldie that tries to appeal to the "in" crowd by pretending he is cool. I know Sony is just as guilty of hype, but they always seem to be more quiet about it. Maybe that's why I like them. They dominate, but not in the way that makes me fear the future of videogaming (as opposed to Microsoft trying to buy the industry by sucking up development houses and such--sony does deals, not purchases for the most part).

However, MS has impressed me in the past year--in ways that made me go out and purchase an Xbox...belatedly. They finally released games that really got me interested. The same could be same of Nintendo, but to be honest I made a purchase for all the Gamecube games that were released years ago, not recently; we all know that recently the Gamecube has dried up.

So in closing, a PS3 in my living room is nearly a given. I dont like their design and their controller makes me want to spit, but maybe I'll give it a test drive around launch at a EB kiosk or something. I dont hate any company right now, but Sony has the goods this time around again, I think. They might not be a big tier publisher themselves, but they have the best 3rd party backing of anyone. That means more diverse games for me, and a larger quantity. Tech numbers and shit are nice and all, and I'm glad to see the PS3 theoretically be the powerhouse in this next round (reversing roles with this round's Xbox), the games will be what sells me.

Too bad that Nintendo On machine is a feckin' fake. It would have goosed my cookies hardcore and maybe won out over the PS3--but alas it wasnt to be.

[Pumped'Up]

If you really think the PS3 is THAT much better than the XBox 360 by the numbers...you need a reality check.
not just specifications, I'm referring to EVERYTHING...i.e. online play, game library (including PS1, PS2), design, price, you name it, Sony has outbeat Microsoft so bad, PS3 could be the final nail in the coffin for MS in the video game industry. You'll know when it happens. Microsoft will release the XBox 720 within 2.5 years after the 360 launch.

[bobbler]

outbeat

Not to be picky or pick on the users of it, but every time I see that I chuckle.

Is it me or is 'outbeat' not an actual valid word. Just to clarify, you can't outbeat someone, you just beat them -- you can outdo them, as in doing something better than someone, but you can't outbeat them (you can, however, outbleat them if it was a goat calling or a whining contest). Ever since DOA3 (the xbox one) had that poor translation and put something like "You thought you could outbeat a professional like me?", I've been seeing people use it.

DOA is tainting the youth of today!