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Vandenh
11-15-2006, 02:35 PM
Gamespot has reviewed (http://www.gamespot.com/events/ps3launch/story.html?sid=6161706&pid=928399&tag=topslot;action;1) Resistance: Fall of man and given it a very solid score.
What helps to distinguish Resistance from other first-person shooters is the quality of its weapon design, its enemy artificial intelligence, and its presentation. While these aspects of the game are not substantially different or vastly superior to what's been done before, they're right up there with the best of what such games have had to offer. Resistance doesn't include any real-world weaponry but lets you brandish an impressive variety of powerful make-believe automatics and energy weapons, many of which have imaginative alternate-firing modes
So... a good launch title. Solid FPS... not Halo, GoW or HL2 level but looks like a good start for PS3 shooters.
Reanimated
11-15-2006, 02:38 PM
8.6 by the way
GunnyMo
11-15-2006, 02:38 PM
C'mon, someone spin this post so it's anti-Sony. :p
Seriously, that it is good news for the title. It looks like a lot of fun and it'll probably be one of the first titles I pick up when I get a PS3 sometime next year.
Intruder
11-15-2006, 02:40 PM
Good solid score, I too will pick it up this time next year most likely. Not as high as I imagined though, it being the hyped flagship title it has been touted as, I was expecting mid to upper 9s. But 8.6 is still a great score.
Vandenh
11-15-2006, 02:42 PM
It sounds quite fun from the review so I guess it is a sure buy for most future PS3 owners.
For some reason I wasn't expecting that high of scores, but thinking back, this is actually pretty surprising since Greg Kasavin usually gives console FPS' really high scores. He gave Perfect Dark 0 a 9.0 I think.
It's still in no way a bad score and I don't think anyone was expecting the game to be ridiculously good or something. People should definitely get it if they get a PS3 at launch.
Zacharai
11-15-2006, 02:49 PM
C'mon, someone spin this post so it's anti-Sony. :pnot Halo, GoW or HL2 level
If your gaming life is all about innovative first person shooters, I suppose you can skip the PS3 for now.
GunnyMo
11-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Good solid score, I too will pick it up this time next year most likely. Not as high as I imagined though, it being the hyped flagship title it has been touted as, I was expecting mid to upper 9s. But 8.6 is still a great score.
This was GameSpot doing the review, Intrude. Unless it's Final Fantasy no one gets a good score. They always under-score it. :D
This was GameSpot doing the review, Intrude. Unless it's Final Fantasy no one gets a good score. They always under-score it. :D
I know you're just joking (since GoW obviously got an awesome score recently), but if anyone is interested in seeing graphs on how the reviews are layed out at ign and gamespot go to http://www.metafuture.com/ It's interesting that ign is basically on a 20 point scale and gamespot gives a lot 9.0-9.2's which everyone knows from reading the site, but I was surprised that there are basically none that are from 9.7-9.9.
GodFather
11-15-2006, 03:06 PM
Whos going to actually drop $600 on this system??
Yeti2005
11-15-2006, 03:07 PM
Sounds like a fun game. 40 player online could be a lot of fun although the PS3 doesn't come with a headset so everyone might not be able to talk to one another for team tactics. Oh well still sounds like a fun, solid game that's a must purchase for those buying the ps3.
Guy Mariano
11-15-2006, 03:10 PM
I still find it amusing that PDZ is better than this and 90% of the X360 games according to Gamespot. If PDZ = 9 at launch. Then Resistance is really an 11 on the launch score scale. Unless of course your one of the few who thinks PDZ was great game :)
Food Nipple
11-15-2006, 03:16 PM
I still find it amusing that PDZ is better than this and 90% of the X360 games according to Gamespot. If PDZ = 9 at launch. Then Resistance is really an 11 on the launch score scale. Unless of course your one of the few who thinks PDZ was great game :)
Launch games usually get inflated scores, whether that is intentional or not is up for debate. I think that reviewers just get as swept up in the hype as the rest of us and tend to give launch games a greater amount of leeway in their flaws.
When PDZ launched, there were no next-gen games coming out before it. When Resistance launches, it's following up right on the heals of GoW, so I don't think it will benefit from the same inflation.
thecrazyd
11-15-2006, 03:20 PM
Whos going to actually drop $600 on this system??
Please don't troll. It is unbecoming of you.
TheSolidHair
11-15-2006, 03:27 PM
I'm really excited to pick this one up on Friday. The multiplayer looks somewhat intriguing playing as two races, and the differences between them.
danhoo
11-15-2006, 03:31 PM
Geeze, GameSpot has been taken over by Best Buy adds today, apparently. Ugg.
Balthasar
11-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Whos going to actually drop $600 on this system??
No one. When you head into your gamestop next week, you should be able to find a stack of these things behind the counter. Poor Gamestop employees, having to trip over those huge boxes!
motor
11-15-2006, 03:56 PM
I can pretty much guarantee that this game is better then perfect dark zero. That kind of throws a monkey wrench in that score they gave it.
Johan
11-15-2006, 03:58 PM
Whos going to actually drop $600 on this system??
Anyone who buys it? :D (yeah...I know, that's not what you meant; you were being sarcastic about why anyone would buy the system...yeah, yeah. :)).
When you factor in a game or two, even the cheaper version will be up to 600...
dieselduck
11-15-2006, 04:00 PM
When GameSpot did the 360 launch there were 3 games that got better scores than Resistance (Kameo, PDZ and COD2).. I can't imagine that there is another PS3 title that would score better than Resistance at launch - so I guess in terms of quality titles at launch PS3 gets taken down pretty solidly.
also - both THP8 and COD3 scored better on the 360 than on the PS3 according to gamespot.. so it looks like the "wait until well into next year to get PS3" position is a solid one if you're a 360 owner (according to gamespot anyway).
bean19
11-15-2006, 04:08 PM
Well, this actually helps me a bit. I had already decided not to spend all that money on a PS3 with only Resistance coming out. Finding out that it is only a middling title really validates this choice.
Morangie
11-15-2006, 04:16 PM
No one. When you head into your gamestop next week, you should be able to find a stack of these things behind the counter. Poor Gamestop employees, having to trip over those huge boxes!
Poor gamestop employees having to endure abuse from customers because Sony reduced the number of PS3s they were getting. Still on track for 2 million by the end of the year though!
Good news about Resistance, PS3 owners will have at least one good launch game.
EvlD99
11-15-2006, 04:22 PM
Edit:
Never mind... read a mis-informed preview.
f1sh3r
11-15-2006, 04:23 PM
No one. When you head into your gamestop next week, you should be able to find a stack of these things behind the counter. Poor Gamestop employees, having to trip over those huge boxes!
there are already a bunch of tools camping outside of the local best buy in tents. the pouring rain made me laugh even harder at them.
Poor gamestop employees having to endure abuse from customers because Sony reduced the number of PS3s they were getting. Still on track for 2 million by the end of the year though!
the problem is they haven't figured out two million of what yet. ken is currently quoted as backing tangerines.
VenomUSMC
11-15-2006, 05:09 PM
As I suspected the game should be about the same level of Call of Duty 2. http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=646084 8.8 score from Gamespot.
I think it'll be an alright game but I think it will be on the level of say Call of Duty 2 as reviews seem to show.
This goes to show that apparently neither the PS 3 nor the 360 were worth rushing out to buy at launch.
GrinR
11-15-2006, 05:12 PM
I'm neither sad nor happy about this. My pre-order with Lik-Sang is now dust, thanks to Sony, so the PS3 pretty much aborted itself in my case.
Gearsofwar-marvelultimatealliance-supermanreturns-rainbowsixvegas-testdriveunlimited-callofduty3 will just have to do for this month.
Wolfgang
11-15-2006, 07:08 PM
I think Resistance looks fun -- a lot like CoD meets Half Life, but I fail to see the "awesome graphics". The screen shots are not flooring me with awesome graphics. They are certainly quality, but I wouldn't give them a 9 for graphics.
I don't think it matters -- but with THP8, CoD3 and Rainbow 6 being better on 360 than the PS3 -- do you think it will matter to others?
KingGorilla
11-15-2006, 07:41 PM
Poor gamestop employees having to endure abuse from customers because Sony reduced the number of PS3s they were getting. Still on track for 2 million by the end of the year though!
Good news about Resistance, PS3 owners will have at least one good launch game.
Sony- Here is how many consoels we will try to have out...we think will be ready.
GS-let's sell as many as we think we can get away with.
GS Employee- Sure your PS3 will play Gears of War.
Talanvor
11-15-2006, 07:49 PM
I wonder how many people will be camping outside my store when I go in to work tonight.
Sony- Here is how many consoels we will try to have out...we think will be ready.
GS-let's sell as many as we think we can get away with.
GS Employee- Sure your PS3 will play Gears of War.
You are a moron. Seriously, wtf is this supposed to be?
Balthasar
11-15-2006, 07:56 PM
Poor gamestop employees having to endure abuse from customers because Sony reduced the number of PS3s they were getting. Still on track for 2 million by the end of the year though!
there are already a bunch of tools camping outside of the local best buy in tents. the pouring rain made me laugh even harder at them.
I suspect both of you missed out on some obvious sarcasm.
TrackZero
11-15-2006, 09:47 PM
Heh, 8.6....
I recall another (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html) game which got a 9 at a recent system launch, even though it was considered by many to be just "good". So an 8.6? That's gotta sting.
bean19
11-16-2006, 01:30 AM
Heh, 8.6....
I recall another (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html) game which got a 9 at a recent system launch, even though it was considered by many to be just "good". So an 8.6? That's gotta sting.
PDZ while considered "just good" by many people in the EvAv forums (I think they are outlying opinions from the norm) is actually an excellent game with great visuals, solid controls, and an
array of fun gadgets and cool weapons that all have interesting secondary effects that enhance gameplay. Additionally, the game has an excellent online co-op mode, and a wide array of online match types. PDZ is an extremely fun game in my opinion and I expect it to be a library title for me.
If you look at this review, Resistance falls just barely short (one point) of PDZ in two areas - gameplay and sound. For gameplay, Kasavin explains that you rely mostly on just two guns and that many of the guns are very standard affairs (as compared to PDZ's cool gadgetry and weapons that have secondary and sometimes tertiary effects), and online co-op in Resistance isn't possible. For sound, what they have is excellent, but they have very little voice-acting in the game so they have less to offer than most FPS games in this regard.
Nit-picky? Well certainly. However, 8.6 is a really good score over at Gamespot, and the review is very positive. Resistance is a fairly standard FPS game that while derivative in design is excellent in execution of that design.
We talk about rewarding innovation on these boards all the time. I'm really happy to see that making a superb, but derivative, game will cause a game to receive at least a point less in the gameplay department than a really well-executed game that presents the player with new gameplay.
Jack B
11-16-2006, 09:03 AM
PDZ while considered "just good" by many people in the EvAv forums (I think they are outlying opinions from the norm) is actually an excellent game with great visuals, solid controls, and an
array of fun gadgets and cool weapons that all have interesting secondary effects that enhance gameplay.
Yep, never understood the harsh comments about PDZ. Single player not so much. Multiplayer, a blast! :)
TrackZero
11-16-2006, 10:21 AM
PDZ while considered "just good" by many people in the EvAv forums (I think they are outlying opinions from the norm) is actually an excellent game with great visuals, solid controls, and an
array of fun gadgets and cool weapons that all have interesting secondary effects that enhance gameplay. Additionally, the game has an excellent online co-op mode, and a wide array of online match types. PDZ is an extremely fun game in my opinion and I expect it to be a library title for me.
If you look at this review, Resistance falls just barely short (one point) of PDZ in two areas - gameplay and sound. For gameplay, Kasavin explains that you rely mostly on just two guns and that many of the guns are very standard affairs (as compared to PDZ's cool gadgetry and weapons that have secondary and sometimes tertiary effects), and online co-op in Resistance isn't possible. For sound, what they have is excellent, but they have very little voice-acting in the game so they have less to offer than most FPS games in this regard.
Nit-picky? Well certainly. However, 8.6 is a really good score over at Gamespot, and the review is very positive. Resistance is a fairly standard FPS game that while derivative in design is excellent in execution of that design.
We talk about rewarding innovation on these boards all the time. I'm really happy to see that making a superb, but derivative, game will cause a game to receive at least a point less in the gameplay department than a really well-executed game that presents the player with new gameplay.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I LOVED pdz. I'm just pointing out that an 8.6 ain't that great when you take a look around at other titles Gamespot's given even higher scores. I'm sure Resistance is a fine title, but it's no system seller.
bean19
11-16-2006, 11:26 AM
Hey, don't get me wrong. I LOVED pdz. I'm just pointing out that an 8.6 ain't that great when you take a look around at other titles Gamespot's given even higher scores. I'm sure Resistance is a fine title, but it's no system seller.
I was pointing out that it is a remarkably similar score and that even though Resistance isn't breaking new ground in gameplay, it is a really solid FPS and will at least give PS3 owners something really solid and fun to play until more games are released this coming year and (mostly Xmas 2007).
Jack B
11-16-2006, 06:43 PM
I was pointing out that it is a remarkably similar score and that even though Resistance isn't breaking new ground in gameplay, it is a really solid FPS and will at least give PS3 owners something really solid and fun to play until more games are released this coming year and (mostly Xmas 2007).
Yeah, I'd agree Resistance is not in the running for GOTY, but it's a solid title, that will be tons of fun for PS3 buyers. They also have Call of Duty 3, which is getting reviews almost as high, so although you don't have nearly the choice on the PS3 for shooters, there are a couple of solid choices. :)
One other thing to consider. Since 48% surveyed thought the PS3 was priced under $300, I'd guess it's not out of the question, that many PS3 buyers will not have a lot of knowledge on review scores for Resistance or even what shooters the 360 already has.... They might be absolutely thrilled. Having fun is all that matters anyway. Many will have fun and think it's the best shooter ever made. Nothing wrong with that. :)
Wolfgang
11-16-2006, 07:37 PM
One other thing to consider. Since 48% surveyed thought the PS3 was priced under $300, I'd guess it's not out of the question, that many PS3 buyers will not have a lot of knowledge on review scores for Resistance or even what shooters the 360 already has.... They might be absolutely thrilled. Having fun is all that matters anyway. Many will have fun and think it's the best shooter ever made. Nothing wrong with that. :)
That is an excellent point about having fun. I really don't have a lot of non-gamer friends so...
Does anyone know what the word of mouth is on Gears of War? Is it going to be a system seller like Halo or is it still too new?
Serapth
11-16-2006, 07:43 PM
Nice to see Halo too, er, I mean resistance reviewing ok! :)
Sorry, someone had to say it. Im not the type to get wood over halo, so resistance doesnt exactly excite me. Infact, nothing in the PS3 lineup excites me given the fact 80% of it is already on the 360.
bean19
11-16-2006, 07:47 PM
Does anyone know what the word of mouth is on Gears of War? Is it going to be a system seller like Halo or is it still too new?
I'm working at Gamestop this Xmas season for Xmas money and to build up a resume that isn't just paralegal jobs (in school to become a game designer). We sold 5 360's at the midnight launch of Gears of War and have sold 3 more with the game this week during the 16 hours I've worked since the launch, so I'd say it is a system-seller - though I think it is a over-rated. . . don't get me wrong, it is a superb game that deserves 9.0 and above scores, but it definitely isn't a revolutionary title like Halo (Halo proved that you could make an amazing multiplayer FPS and really brought the genre over from PC).
Serapth
11-16-2006, 07:51 PM
I'm working at Gamestop this Xmas season for Xmas money and to build up a resume that isn't just paralegal jobs (in school to become a game designer). We sold 5 360's at the midnight launch of Gears of War and have sold 3 more with the game this week during the 16 hours I've worked since the launch, so I'd say it is a system-seller - though I think it is a over-rated. . . don't get me wrong, it is a superb game that deserves 9.0 and above scores, but it definitely isn't a revolutionary title like Halo (Halo proved that you could make an amazing multiplayer FPS and really brought the genre over from PC).
Neither were most system sellers to be honest. Final Fantasy 10 sold alot of PS2's, but frankly, its not that amazing of a game. Halo 2 sold a ton of Xboxs, but it wasnt that amazing either. Both were solid titles, but nothing overwhelming. There have only been a handful of really revolutionary titles, and they tend not to sell systems. Guitar Hero is a perfect example, something very new and much beloved, but not many people run out and buy a system for GH.
Wolfgang
11-16-2006, 08:02 PM
I guess my question which, bean19 sorta answered, are the "Frat guys" or "casual gamers" coming in to buy 360s and Gears or is it just more "Gamers"?
Halo -- everyone wanted and had. Every frat guy, etc... Same with Madden. Does Gears stand a chance of becoming the next Halo (or at least until Halo 3)?
bean19
11-16-2006, 09:02 PM
Wolfgang - Yep. They are also picking up used copies of PDZ, Saint's Row, and Dead Rising. Oh, and for people who don't have PCs, FEAR is getting a lot of sales. NFS: Carbon and all the sports titles are selling pretty well too. Surprisingly, two of the cooler exclusives that have just released - DoA Boobies 2 and Viva Pinata aren't selling well at all. . . I think that has a lot to do with our Assistant Manager being a Sony fanboy and hating on the 360 at every opportunity though. I find it really hard to sell stuff that isn't mainstream when he is in the store.
We get along because I think the PS3 will be awesome in a year or two, but he annoys the hell out of me.
Serapth
11-16-2006, 09:14 PM
Wolfgang - Yep. They are also picking up used copies of PDZ, Saint's Row, and Dead Rising. Oh, and for people who don't have PCs, FEAR is getting a lot of sales. NFS: Carbon and all the sports titles are selling pretty well too. Surprisingly, two of the cooler exclusives that have just released - DoA Boobies 2 and Viva Pinata aren't selling well at all. . . I think that has a lot to do with our Assistant Manager being a Sony fanboy and hating on the 360 at every opportunity though. I find it really hard to sell stuff that isn't mainstream when he is in the store.
We get along because I think the PS3 will be awesome in a year or two, but he annoys the hell out of me.
I dont get this concept. If I owned a game store and was interviewing people for jobs I would ask the question "What game system is the best?". If I got a fanboy answer, that persons resume would go in the garbage (in front of their faces during the interview, but thats just cause im a prick ). If I own a store that makes money selling multiple systems, why the fuck would I want a fanboy doing sales pitches? It would be kinda like hiring someone at a Ford dealership that love mustangs but hated pickups. They might sell a ton of Mustangs, but overall they wouldnt be effective at sales.
In general, just a dumb fucking financial move. Yet its all to common. So often I hear bias from idiots working video game stores. Its gotten to the point I buy 99% of my games at big box stores, I just cant stand the boutique shop stupidity.
As to this Frat guy anti Madden hate I see on this board, give it the fuck up ( comment not directed at you Bean19 ). I see this shit so often on this board it makes me want to puke. Hey, you may have been a social pariah in High School. That doesnt mean the guy thats good at sports who enjoys the same hobby as you is some mindless jock. Fuck I hate that attitude.
bean19
11-16-2006, 11:52 PM
Serapth - I think gamers resent the "frat guys" because they are the driving force behind Electronic Arts sucking so terribly. I don't like when posters refer to them as mindless or a certain narrow demographic (like frat guys) either, as that really isn't the case. In fact, these sports and racing titles have really broad appeal that even includes most gamers when they are executed well.
I'll show angst against the broader demographic when great games like Psychonauts are overlooked (btw, I got that game sold to a kid today but had to shove it down his throat after his Mom wouldn't let him by San Andreas). Same thing goes for Okami and Bully - I really have to push those games because the broad demographic doesn't know about them. I guess we can blame Jack Thompson for not going all anti-gay/pro-family against Bully for it's less than sports/racing title appeal.
In regards to hiring at game stores, honestly it's about money and availability. The pay at Gamestop is fucking terrible. I'm making minimum wage despite having been friends with the manager (who left 3 days after he hired me as he got a better job) because they can't hire part-time employees for more during the holiday season. The assistant managers only make a dollar or two more than me and they've been there for ages.
For what it's worth, he really knows his games and when presented with someone who owns a 360, he will work to sell them subscriptions and get them to preorder games.
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