Gears of Awesome

[bapenguin]

Holy Shit. I must say Gears of War lives up to the hype...so far.

I fired up the game last night and started the single player campaign. After busting Marcus out of jail and familiarizing myself with the controls it was onto the meat and potatoes of the game. Act 1 puts you outside in a ruined city that looks like it was part of the Roman Empire. Vast expansive landscapes littered with broken marble columns lay before you, and it's all absolutely gorgeous. It looks like a mix between Ico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ico) and Saving Private Ryan.

As I blasted my way through each successive locust horde, I found my house pounding. The bass this game puts outs out is massive, and it'll give any home theater a good workout. The sounds of gunfire ring over your head convincingly.

The game itself plays like a cross between Doom and Ghost Recon. Slow methodical movements into cover combined with endless onslaughts of enemies yield some pretty intense battles. And these battles are best experienced with a buddy. As I made my way through Act 1 last night I had few people pop up on my friends list playing the game. At any time during single player you can invite a friend to join in and take the role of Dom. This worked flawlessly last night, and the Beserker boss battle Co-Op was some of the most fun I've had in gaming in a long time. In fact, there are many moments that you can tell are specifically designed for Co-Op. This is a welcome change, and one I hope more game designers include in their upcoming titles.

Multi-player is small scale 4v4, but they are quick and intense battles. There are a nice variety of maps, and each one has a different strategy that must be applied to it for your team to achieve victory.

So what's bad about Gears of War? Not much. The controls do take some getting used to, and there are times when the all powerful A button doesn't do what you expect it to, but these are few and far between. Also one gripe was during Co-Op missions only one person was able to pick up the COG-Tags, which unlock stuff. It's a minor annoyance but an annoyance none the less. (Update: Even though one person picks it up, both people get credit. )

Overall this game lives up to the hype so far. It's intense, gritty, and gorgeous. We'll have a full review up in a week or two after the initial wow factor wears off.

[Goronmon]

I better be able to find a copy somewhere today.

[Varsity]

That co-op drop-in feature sounds great!

[noxa]

Anyone have any news on who has copies? Target says no until tomorrow, Wal-Mart said maybe later today, GameStop/EB are sold out around me with no ETA, and who knows about BestBuy.

[Ph00p]

That co-op drop-in feature sounds great!

I have to agree, its fucking brilliant actually, I can only hope that... *sigh* I can't even pretend Wii will have anything like this :/ ah well.

[Dag Nasty Evil]

Ummm, this is great and all I pick it up today, buuuut....why is this front page?

[CaptStu]

Yeah, that whole run-and-gun thing doesn't work very well. Aside from the controls, which take their own learning curve, patience and a little bit of strategy help a ton.

[bone_matrix]

I hate living in the midwest. You would think that being in Lincoln, Nebraska, a huge college town, capitol of a state, stores would get this game the day it comes out. Not the case. Hell, I had some one tell me it comes out on Nov. 22nd. :mad:

From what I'm hearing it sounds like its living up to the hype, which is good, but doesn't have clan/squad support, which sort of sucks. Either way, I want this game.

[The Letter 3]

Ummm, this is great and all I pick it up today, buuuut....why is this front page?
Because he has the banhammer. And he with the banhammer may post as he wishes. :)

Really, though, the reason this is front page is because Gears has seen so much hype it's good to hear a voice we all trust give its opinion.

[bapenguin]

Ummm, this is great and all I pick it up today, buuuut....why is this front page?

I swear to god. From now on...anyone that asks that question gets banned for the day. That shit comes up too much.

It's on the front page because we put it there.

[Mr Flannery]

BOOO YAAAAAAH!!! Pickin' up my resevred copy today after work at 5pm.... Shazam.

If anyone wants to get there face CHAINSAWED THE FUCK OFF... message me on live with text that says "GEAR UP, FLANNERY!!!!"

[PantherModern]

Man, it's front page because it freaking owns. I am well into Act 3, and I have yet to be disappointed. It can be frustrating at times, but overall GoW is truly awesome. I'm lovin it!

[soco]

i also read today that it works on Euro 360s, so i ordered a copy and sent it to my sister. maybe i'll get the awesomeness before it officially gets launched here.

[TRiLoGY]

Wow.. Sounds awesome :)

It's out on the 17th here in the UK and I can't wait to play it :)

[OUX]

I swear to god. From now on...anyone that asks that question gets banned for the day. That shit comes up too much.

It's on the front page because we put it there.

SAY WHAT AGAIN! :cool:

[Mdot23]

BA, for the drop-in co-op, if the player leaves midway through a level, do you have to restart or does the comp take Dom back over?

As for your impressions, i have to agree completely with everything. i'm really enjoying the hell out of this game and sitting here at work is driving me nuts. best moment of the night: im in a 4v4 ranked match on some map (not sure the name, but it almost looks like a run down subway station...) and my team is on one side, engaged in a firefight with the other team. i flank them to the left, sneak up on one guy, stick a grenade on his head. he blows up, i chainsaw another guy and as i'm about to get chainsawed myself, my teammate snipes the dude in the head. we win. definetly the most fun i've had in a long while on Live.

[Planetbuster]

The only thing that is annoying me is some of my squadmates AI in single player. Why when I am trying to flank does my squad take that as a signal to charge the enemy and get into hand to hand? I know my buddies are trying to move up to support me but hell....does he not see the 1000s of rounds per minute flying out there in the path btw him and his "new spot" he wants to be in? Otherwise this game is truly next gen and amazing. After getting all cozy with the controls it really can become artful slipping from cover to cover while squeezing off rounds.

PB

[TRiLoGY]

best moment of the night: im in a 4v4 ranked match on some map (not sure the name, but it almost looks like a run down subway station...) and my team is on one side, engaged in a firefight with the other team. i flank them to the left, sneak up on one guy, stick a grenade on his head. he blows up, i chainsaw another guy and as i'm about to get chainsawed myself, my teammate snipes the dude in the head. we win. definetly the most fun i've had in a long while on Live.

That sounds cool :)
Has anyone else got any stories like this?

[sparkfizt]

<3 GoW

too short -_-

[phantomhitman]

wait a second, please confirm this for me bapy.

So I can get a real life human being to help me get my single player achievements?!!??! So I can get a friend and rip through the game on hardcore and then again on insane? I thought the co-op was a seperate part ala Ghost Recon. If not that is awesome beyond belief. You also mentioned last night that a friend can jump in at any time during co-op correct? This is absolutely fantastic news.

[Evil Avatar]

Ummm, this is great and all I pick it up today, buuuut....why is this front page?

It is that whole "Post about games on a gaming news page." thing that keeps popping up in the middle of our off-topic discussions about which Political party has the smallest penis.

[bapenguin]

wait a second, please confirm this for me bapy.

So I can get a real life human being to help me get my single player achievements?!!??! So I can get a friend and rip through the game on hardcore and then again on insane? I thought the co-op was a seperate part ala Ghost Recon. If not that is awesome beyond belief. You also mentioned last night that a friend can jump in at any time during co-op correct? This is absolutely fantastic news.

Yup. Intrude and I got the 1st level achievements last night on Co-Op.

As for if the person that joined in drops, I'm not sure. Didn't try that yet. I know if the host leaves it kills the session.

[Shjinta]

Damn penguin that game sounds hot. My copy is sitting on my 360..but damn Guitar Hero 2 is stopping me from playing it.

[fitbabits]

I swear to god. From now on...anyone that asks that question gets banned for the day. That shit comes up too much.

It's on the front page because we put it there.
Awesome! I'm all for that... :D

[MaiXu]

As for your impressions, i have to agree completely with everything. i'm really enjoying the hell out of this game and sitting here at work is driving me nuts. best moment of the night: im in a 4v4 ranked match on some map (not sure the name, but it almost looks like a run down subway station...) and my team is on one side, engaged in a firefight with the other team. i flank them to the left, sneak up on one guy, stick a grenade on his head. he blows up, i chainsaw another guy and as i'm about to get chainsawed myself, my teammate snipes the dude in the head. we win. definetly the most fun i've had in a long while on Live.

That ... that sounds like a "story." You know, a story, from GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Smash Bros., Halo ... one of those rare games where the simple act of playing it produces insanely fun and memorable action.

Rarely do games produce that kind of fun. I really want to try this game.

[BabyJesus]

Should have my copy today after work, its on the UPS truck, dammit....

Can't wait!

[dragonstomp]

Damn penguin that game sounds hot. My copy is sitting on my 360..but damn Guitar Hero 2 is stopping me from playing it.

We are in the same boat my friend. :)

I did try it out last night before bed and to rest my left hand from rocking(got to the sword's freya on expert w00t!).

Utterly amazing. Best graphics i've seen yet on the 360 by far. First game that I've seen that made me say that it's truly next gen. The camera angles and speed run thing were well done. Very cinematic and it really puts you in the game.

[digitalErich]

Yeah, the COG tag thing sucks, but there is some consolodation. My buddy and me played some co-op last night and since it was "his game" we were playing (he was Marcus) I let him grab all the tags we found. However, the game kind of makes up for it in that there is a set of acheivements you can only get while playing through the game as Dom...so I got a couple of those.

Co-op in this game on hardcore is a fucking blast.

[phantomhitman]

So you both cannot pick up the cog tags achievement while doing co-op? That sucks. How do the cog tags work anyways, are the hidden through out the level?

[Kelegacy]

I'm thinking of picking it up tonight as well, just need to grab Xbox Live Gold...maybe I'll bid on a BUY IT NOW eBay auction while at work and hope I get the code by tonight?

I also need to call EB and hope they have extra copies, though I doubt they will. I have a gift card there and don't want to drop the cash on a copy elsewhere.

[51|RandoM]

Anyone have any news on who has copies? Target says no until tomorrow, Wal-Mart said maybe later today, GameStop/EB are sold out around me with no ETA, and who knows about BestBuy.

Did you call every nearby gamestop/eb? I didn't have any problem picking this up at a gamestop in Manhattan. The Brooklyn ones near work were completely useless, but the Union Square store had more than enough for everybody in line.

[digitalErich]

So you both cannot pick up the cog tags achievement while doing co-op? That sucks. How do the cog tags work anyways, are the hidden through out the level?
Yeah, only one person can get them. What I'm still not sure on is if person A has already gotten a particular set of tags, if they still show up for person B is person A is hosting the game. There is a lot of questions I have about the tags in co-op that are still unanswered. I'm still not sure if person B can even pick up tags in co-op. I let my friend pick up all of them because we were playing his game.

Oh yeah, if you are Dom in co-op, your progress is not saved. The person playing as Marcus's is, because you are both essentially playing that person's campaign mode.

Yeah, the tags are just scattered around the levels, sometimes in out of the way places, sometimes not so much.

[51|RandoM]

The only thing that is annoying me is some of my squadmates AI in single player.

I pretend they're not even there and let them go unconscious. They auto-revive at the end of the round anyways.

[Dag-Sabot]

The bass this game pouts out is massive.Yeah nothing like a pouting bass! :D Great review im looking forward to this.

[51|RandoM]

As far as the tags thing in coop, does anybody really give a shit?

They're a silly side quest to unlock a few meaningless achievements. Just have fun ffs without worrying about stuff like this. If you can't, well, you've let Microsoft make you their bitch. ;p

[Giddeon]

I'm thinking of picking it up tonight as well, just need to grab Xbox Live Gold...maybe I'll bid on a BUY IT NOW eBay auction while at work and hope I get the code by tonight?

I also need to call EB and hope they have extra copies, though I doubt they will. I have a gift card there and don't want to drop the cash on a copy elsewhere.

You'll have to let us know what you think. You are pretty picky on what you think is worth your money on the xbox360 so I'd like to know if it makes the grade for you personally. Other news, my replacement xbox gets here tomorrow so I am going to a friends house and downloading my profile to play co-op with him tonight, boo yah.

[chingtastic]

What is the difficult like? What about in co-op mode - does the game scale difficulty?

Bapenguin rocks.

[Kelegacy]

You'll have to let us know what you think. You are pretty picky on what you think is worth your money on the xbox360 so I'd like to know if it makes the grade for you personally. Other news, my replacement xbox gets here tomorrow so I am going to a friends house and downloading my profile to play co-op with him tonight, boo yah.
Oh, I'm sure I'll love it. I'm really not that picky, just the 360 hasn't offered too many games worth the cost of entry or upgrade from the Xbox yet, but that can almost be said of any new console. Gears of War is one of those exclusives that I wouldn't think of missing. I've complained my fair share in the past because I was frustrated at not having enough to play on the machine that couldn't be found elsewhere at a cheaper price. I'm sure I'll complain again in the future, but at least Gears of War will satiate me for the time being.

[phantomhitman]

They're a silly side quest to unlock a few meaningless achievements. Just have fun ffs without worrying about stuff like this. If you can't, well, you've let Microsoft make you their bitch. ;p
I give a shit, so unless you fork over $60 to pay for my game you can stuff it sonny boy. I like completing games %100 and getting achievements, sorry you dont feel the same way.

[Roc Ingersol]

See, this is the shit I come here to read.
This is the shit the front page should be loaded up with.

Not press releases.

I say you edit this thing and fuckin bold it.

[Nite_Moogle]

Does dropping people in to play co-op work for split screen as well as over Live?

[f1sh3r]

dang. might have to go pick this up.

[Sense Field]

Me and Intrude got through a total of 4 hours of the co-op/single player game yesterday. I must say I normaly don't play single player sections of games anymore but if they did co-op like this more often maybe I would. There is nothing like playing through a game with buddy. It brings me way back to the days of playing Contra co-op with my brother.

Hey Intrude if you are reading this i'll be on at 11:15 or 11:30 tonight if you wana kick some more ass!

[HardScores]

Meh. The single player is too short and the multiplayer isn't deep enough - I need CTF and KotH gameplay. It's like paying for a 2 hour movie and getting a 45 minute Brockheimer production. Flashy, but ultimately too short.

[ReaverX]

Me and a buddy of mine played well into the game last night over Live co-op and i gotta say it was friggin awesome. We played on the Hardcore difficulty and game seemed just right, not too easy and a litttle tough in spots but manageable. I'm definately having a blast with the game so far.

[Mortis]

I finished the single player on Hardcore last night, it was quite frustrating for me at times but overall I thought it was very good. Even though I was frustrated I couldn't stop playing, I took a small break to come and post here but other than that it was non-stop Gears.

Visuals (love that rain) and sound were also a plus, the people next door were probably wondering what the hell was going on in here, I had the surround sound cranked. I'm looking forward to the multiplayer and trying Insane mode in co-op.

[ilian]

As far as the tags thing in coop, does anybody really give a shit?

They're a silly side quest to unlock a few meaningless achievements. Just have fun ffs without worrying about stuff like this. If you can't, well, you've let Microsoft make you their bitch. ;p


Achievements are fun. It has nothing to do with being someone's bitch. Its about buying a video game, and having fun with it.

[Mdot23]

I'm thinking of picking it up tonight as well, just need to grab Xbox Live Gold...maybe I'll bid on a BUY IT NOW eBay auction while at work and hope I get the code by tonight?



the collectors edition came with a free trial for Live, im assuming the regular one does too. just in case u don't feel like shelling out the whole cost right now.

[Kelegacy]

I finished the single player on Hardcore last night, it was quite frustrating for me at times but overall I thought it was very good. Even though I was frustrated I couldn't stop playing, I took a small break to come and post here but other than that it was non-stop Gears.

Visuals (love that rain) and sound were also a plus, the people next door were probably wondering what the hell was going on in here, I had the surround sound cranked. I'm looking forward to the multiplayer and trying Insane mode in co-op.
You beat it already!? How many hours did you put in?

[ReaverX]

Yeah, only one person can get them. What I'm still not sure on is if person A has already gotten a particular set of tags, if they still show up for person B is person A is hosting the game. There is a lot of questions I have about the tags in co-op that are still unanswered. I'm still not sure if person B can even pick up tags in co-op. I let my friend pick up all of them because we were playing his game.

Oh yeah, if you are Dom in co-op, your progress is not saved. The person playing as Marcus's is, because you are both essentially playing that person's campaign mode.

Yeah, the tags are just scattered around the levels, sometimes in out of the way places, sometimes not so much.

To clear up the whole cog thing, as far as I saw last night, If you're playing Co-op and one person picks up tags, you both get credit for them. If one person has that particular one already, it doesn't go toward their total count.

[Mortis]

You beat it already!? How many hours did you put in?

I think it took me around 9.5 hours, I stopped to eat twice and to post here but that didn't take long. It really depends on how quickly you get through some of the tougher sections, I had trouble with the later half of the game.

[agentgray]

Sigh. My family is all sick and would not go to bed. Inbetween viewings of Cars I saw Bap, Gunny, and Expug online. I so much wanted to come out and play.

Alas, the game is still in the wrapping. Elite Beat Agents is cool though.

[Megalith]

The campaign is only 9 hours? What a joke.

[Gpig]

I swear to god. From now on...anyone that asks that question gets banned for the day. That shit comes up too much.

It's on the front page because we put it there.

This is a very bad idea.

[Gpig]

The campaign is only 9 hours? What a joke.

As long as it's great all the way through then there should be no complaints. Max Payne felt like it was like 6 hours and it was one of my favorite games. A joke would be like 3 hours and it wasn't an arcade game. Plus GoW has co-op and adversial multiplayer. If it was the only game you bought this year then it would be disappointing, but if you only buy one game a year then I don't know why you would spend the money on a next gen console already when they're going to have price drops.

I know you're a gimmick account, but I thought I would cut the real flaming off at the pass.

[MaiXu]

So the online is only four on four? For a total of eight?

I wonder if this was a technical limitation, or a deliberate decision for pacing. I could see how having too many people in a game that plays like this could ruin the strategy and devolve into hunting in packs.

Still, I'd love to see large, objective-based maps with this gameplay. It seems like you could have a tense, meaningful shootout/standoff if this game is paced the way I think it is.

God dammit. I really want a 360, a $10,000 HDTV, and this game. Le sigh ...

[Tony1l]

Love This Game! It easily measeures up in the (Best) top 10 games I've ever played.

[saulob]

Come on, gimme my PC version.

[Intruder]

So the online is only four on four? For a total of eight?

I wonder if this was a technical limitation, or a deliberate decision for pacing. I could see how having too many people in a game that plays like this could ruin the strategy and devolve into hunting in packs.

Still, I'd love to see large, objective-based maps with this gameplay. It seems like you could have a tense, meaningful shootout/standoff if this game is paced the way I think it is.

God dammit. I really want a 360, a $10,000 HDTV, and this game. Le sigh ...


Honestly I wouldn't want more than 4 on 4, maybe 5 aside. But that is about it. The multiplayer plays very carefully and tactically with a lot of communication within the squad. If you got too many people in the squad I think it would lose the tactical aspect and communication would become sloppy. 4 players are good to keep track of on your team.

[Mortis]

Just played a few games online...holy shit it's awesome. I'm going to be playing this for quite a while.

[Dag-Sabot]

Just played a few games online...holy shit it's awesome. I'm going to be playing this for quite a while.Stay hydrated and dont forget to eat! [/mothervoice]
Lucky bastard.

[phantomhitman]

guess what, my eb preorder...fucking history. They said the shipment was not delivered to this whole area, which is true. Maybe I can get lucky and grab a copy at BB or Target.

[Jack B]

The campaign is only 9 hours? What a joke.

Depends on your level of ability. It will be about 50 hours for me on hardcore.

Also, why is game length a badge of honor anyway? I've seen the most repetitive auto generated monsters and leveling treadmill RPG's and people say, "yeah, it's got 50 hours of gameplay". Woohoo. 50 hours of repetitive gameplay.

I don't think you'll find the corridors and rooms etc, looking like the same thing with different furniture... :)

20 hours worth of hamburgers or 10 hours (single player only, not Coop or Multiplayer) worth of Tenderloin... Take your pick.

[Jack B]

Just played a few games online...holy shit it's awesome. I'm going to be playing this for quite a while.

....but it's only 9 hours... Didn't you hear? You can't be having fun... Quick stop now! ;)

[CptTripps]

Going to pick up my pre-order this afternoon and then I've got all evening to get acquainted. This Friday is a holiday also which means GoW marathon!!!

[theguido]

Well, I'm not surprised by the response here. Considering this place is basically a certified MS fan-site it's not shocking.

....Of course, since I'm going to play it in a few days I'll find out first hand whether this is a decent game or not.

[The Letter 3]

It is that whole "Post about games on a gaming news page." thing that keeps popping up in the middle of our off-topic discussions about which Political party has the smallest penis.
Haha! Sounds like we need to have a "spiritual revival" here. I'll put in a call to Cliffy B, he's crazy enough to make it work.

[Chaos Machine]

Depends on your level of ability. It will be about 50 hours for me on hardcore.

Also, why is game length a badge of honor anyway? I've seen the most repetitive auto generated monsters and leveling treadmill RPG's and people say, "yeah, it's got 50 hours of gameplay". Woohoo. 50 hours of repetitive gameplay.

I don't think you'll find the corridors and rooms etc, looking like the same thing with different furniture... :)

20 hours worth of hamburgers or 10 hours (single player only, not Coop or Multiplayer) worth of Tenderloin... Take your pick.
ill take 20 hours of kobe beef hamburgers

[rein]

I have not decided how much I like or dislike the game so far. The AI is ok at best, for every cool and great thing the AI does, there is one enemy (or your teammates) that will either stand there and get shot multiple times, or they will sit behind cover and you can wait with your gun aimed and pop them when they raise up. I just jumped on for a second and the very first battle I had an enemy run into the open. I opened fire on him and he stood there not trying to move or anything. Every stationary weapon I flank, the enemy never even tries to turn around and defend himself. You can run up and do anything you want to them. I don't know why everyone is praising the AI so much. Yes, some enemies will flank you, but most have the idiot code or something controlling them.

The story is ok at best. I have not completed the game and my opinion may change, but this far into Halo and I was already digging the story. In Gears, I am a guy who was broken out of prison to shoot stuff, and I was framed.

The only other complaint I have is in the control. Why make the controls the way they are? It isn't an improvement on controlling a shooter and it is a bit annoying at times. Yes, you can hit the 'A' button a little early and try to make getting behind cover a little smoother, but even then, your character doesn't always do what you intended. Getting over a barrier is a bit cumbersome too. Hit 'A' early, and then hit 'A' again. Couldn't they have simply mapped an 'X' command to jump over obstacles? I keep reading quotes where reviewers and posters say that there is a learning curve. It isn't a learning curve as much as it is making a clumsy control scheme work. Once you are behind cover, the control is a bit better. I do like the way the "swat" commands work when you are progressing wall to wall down a hallway. I do like the way reloading works too.

The game is gorgeous, no doubt about it. It is very clean and sharp looking. The action is very fast paced and great. I would not come close to calling it a bad game, but I don't think I am ready to give it GOTY.

One more thing about idiot AI, I have had multiple times when I rush an enemy who is hidden behind a wall and he just stays crouched for several seconds. I just ran up to one, planted a grenade on him and he still stood there for a second. He did finally stand up just before exploding. :)

[SaintArnold]

Nice impressions bapenguin.

I hate you all for making me want a 360. I'm trying my damndest to wait for Halo 3 and a price drop.

[Mortis]

....but it's only 9 hours... Didn't you hear? You can't be having fun... Quick stop now! ;)

Heh. Man if you haven't tried the multi yet you should get at least one game in, I have never had this much fun on Live.

Edit: BTW I don't know if the regular version comes with the free 48 hour Live gold card but if you have Gears and no gold I can give one of you my code from the CE. Just send a PM.

[Roc Ingersol]

20 hours worth of hamburgers or 10 hours ... worth of Tenderloin... Take your pick.
Mr Kutaragi? Is that you?

[Crus4d3rX]

The EBs in Manhattan claim that they are all getting 60+ copies later today, so shouldn't be a problem to pick up in NYC.

Spent about 2 hours playing multi this morning - haven't tried the single player yet. Think it looks just fantastic and is a blast to play. If you play a lot of BF2 or other shooters on PC, you will probably initially feel like you don't have much control or aim, but I found myself improving over time.

As others here said, it is a bit difficult to move about the levels at times when you unexpectedly attach to walls, etc. There are times you mean to head up a stairway, for example, but end up doing a swat move across the gap. A lot of it will probably get more familiar over time, though, as we learn to anticipate how the A button will act in any given circumstance.

I found the action very intense, and playing with the team, where you can revive each other, leads to some great firefights. Not a game to go lone wolf on, as it's very hard to take out two guys at once if they both see you in time.

Counting the hours until I get off work...

[Dag-Sabot]

The EBs in Manhattan claim that they are all getting 60+ copies later today, so shouldn't be a problem to pick up in NYC.

Spent about 2 hours playing multi this morning - haven't tried the single player yet. Think it looks just fantastic and is a blast to play. If you play a lot of BF2 or other shooters on PC, you will probably initially feel like you don't have much control or aim, but I found myself improving over time.

As others here said, it is a bit difficult to move about the levels at times when you unexpectedly attach to walls, etc. There are times you mean to head up a stairway, for example, but end up doing a swat move across the gap. A lot of it will probably get more familiar over time, though, as we learn to anticipate how the A button will act in any given circumstance.

I found the action very intense, and playing with the team, where you can revive each other, leads to some great firefights. Not a game to go lone wolf on, as it's very hard to take out two guys at once if they both see you in time.

Counting the hours until I get off work...
Let me guess: You couldn't afford the "5".

[Steele Johnson]

This game was awesome. I played the SP campaign and I've been having fun with some of the multiplayer modes.

Now I'm off to play Call of Duty 3. Two great games in one week! Yeah!

[Crus4d3rX]

Let me guess: You couldn't afford the "5".

Hmmm? Not following, sorry.

[Kelegacy]

I'm so angry. I've tried to buy Live cards on eBay all day but keep getting out bid. I want them for around 30-35 bucks and for sellers to send them to me via email, the codes. Jesus Louise, I'm at work and it's hard to keep surfing that site without getting caught.

I'll try to call EB before my trek home tonight. Today's my birthday, I guess I'll use that as a present....

[Camel]

Happy Birthday, Kel!

As my present to you, you can play Gears with me later! Just picked it up. As a super bonus present, I will go out of my way to not accidentally kill you.

[Mr.Green]

Hmmm? Not following, sorry.
He was wondering why you didn't replace the s with a 5 in your name while at it.

[Kelegacy]

Happy Birthday, Kel!

As my present to you, you can play Gears with me later! Just picked it up. As a super bonus present, I will go out of my way to not accidentally kill you.
That's if I can get a freakin' Live code before the end of the day!

[Tia]

Gah I am so pissed off. I pre-ordered it from ebgames. Last time I pre-order from that store. They still don't have it, they blame fed-ex, but I don't beleive it is fed-ex. They are just screw ups. Not that I can't wait for the came, I just don't like the schlep.

*is annoyed

[dethnight]

Well I'm barely through Act 2 yet, and I can say without a doubt that this is the most action-packed, balls-to-the-wall game I have played in years! Hardcore difficulty isn't just a name, it must have taken me 4 hours just to get to the Bez. fight. I had a few buddies over last night to play, and MAN did they get co-op perfect in this game. I really thought someone was gonna have a heart-attack, it's just that tense of a game.
One of the best things is that the enemy will advance on you, but instead of just blind running at you, it will hop from cover to cover, until there right on top of you. Almost reminds me a little of Time Crises mixed with Doom as far as game mechanics go. Maybe a little repetitive, but in the same way banging hookers while snortin coke off em is repetitive, YOU DON'T CARE! I'll be back tonight at 5:01 pm.

[Crus4d3rX]

He was wondering why you didn't replace the s with a 5 in your name while at it.

Ah, ok, got it. Not "l33t" enough, I guess.

[Crus4d3rX]

Gah I am so pissed off. I pre-ordered it from ebgames. Last time I pre-order from that store. They still don't have it, they blame fed-ex, but I don't beleive it is fed-ex. They are just screw ups. Not that I can't wait for the came, I just don't like the schlep.

*is annoyed

If you want it today, go somewhere else, buy it, play it. When you get your other copy by Fed-Ex, return the unopened copy to first store and get your $ back.

[Crittias]

Gah I am so pissed off. I pre-ordered it from ebgames. Last time I pre-order from that store. They still don't have it, they blame fed-ex, but I don't beleive it is fed-ex. They are just screw ups. Not that I can't wait for the came, I just don't like the schlep.

*is annoyed

I'm in the same boat. WTF, EBGames? Get with the program!

[Goronmon]

Picked up my copy at BB during my lunch break, no pre-order or anything. I'm a happy camper. :D

[Schnoogs]

Just fired it up...man does this look good on a 1080p display.

Definitly the new benchmark for any system. I'm in the "stand and stare at everything" phase.

Gameplay seems cool too ;)

[Rafer]

, why is game length a badge of honor anyway? I've seen the most repetitive auto generated monsters and leveling treadmill RPG's and people say, "yeah, it's got 50 hours of gameplay". Woohoo. 50 hours of repetitive gameplay.

I don't think you'll find the corridors and rooms etc, looking like the same thing with different furniture... :)

I felt that way about Doom 3 and F.E.A.R, I think they both would have been way better if they had fewer levels and a few more scripted scenes. Doom 3 was way too long and I was getting bloody sick of all those closet monsters.

[Phades]

If it's around 9-10 hours and makes me feel like I want to play through it again at a higher difficulty, that's 20+ hours. I've played several 20+ hour games that I would never have any desire to go through again. Also, it's got Multiplayer which extends the life considerably.

A game that's too short is something like the newest Tomb Raider. I enjoyed it, but once you've gone through once you're done, no desire to do it again. There's no multiplayer to extend the life either.

Besides, I'm sure we'll all get to pay for additional content soon enough ;)

[DubiousQuality]

So now that we know Gears lives up to the hype, where's all the neysayers? Oh wait the're playing it too. heh

Haven't picked it up yet, having picked up 2 copies of NWN2 this week (one for the woman and one for myself) Hopefully will get a chance to snag it soon, it sounds like its shit hot.

If they can make UT2007 turn out the same I'll be a happy camper, as I've always been pretty fond of ye ol Unreal engine.

[Virtual Machine]

I really need to know...


Is the Megadeth song in the game????

I'm a half hour away from playing this thing goddamnit - or playing more Call of Duty 3 at any rate...

[Zeal]

HUR HUR WHY THIS FRONTPAGE.

Shut the fuck up already.

I see that in every thread I go to.

[Mortis]

That's if I can get a freakin' Live code before the end of the day!

I can give you my 48 hour code from Gears.

[Kelegacy]

I can give you my 48 hour code from Gears.
I'll let you know. I might pick up a 13 month at CC for 39.99. But thanks for the fallback offer...

...my EB is out of copies I think. I'm out the door for the evening right now, gonna swing by a few stores on the way home.

[Steele Johnson]

Ummm, this is great and all I pick it up today, buuuut....why is this front page?

a) because it's a newly released game for a next-gen platform.
b) because it's a great game (triple A title).
c) because it lived up to all the hype.
d) because people like to read reviews from real gamers.
e) because gamers like to talk about games in these forums.
f) because it's a game created by one of the best graphics engine developers.
and so on, and so on...

Now for the real question... why would you ask such a stupid question?

[rein]

Happy Birthday Kelegacy. If you get a 12/13 month subscription to Live Gold, does that mean you are going to the other side? No more 360 rants? :)

I'm about to jump back on and finish up act two. I will probably give multi a try tonight. It should be a blast if my teammates don't kick me for sucking.

[GunnyMo]

Co op is a blast as well as the multiplayer. I think there were several of us up until 1230am last night playing it. The collective screams of "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" and the psychotic laughter when someone gets chainsawed was fantastic! :D I've never been a big fan of spectating after you die but GoW makes it very enjoyable. It's like watching a horror movie: you are yelling and screaming at the screen (especially when your team only has one guy left), knowing they can't hear you, but you yell anyway. Loads and loads of fun.

Only complaint: You cannot change game options while you and your friends are in the multiplayer lobby. No manual map changes, weapon, or game type changes. You have to completely exit back to the main menu (kicking everyone out of the lobby), change up and then reinvite. Annoying as hell.

The game forces without forcing (if that makes sense) teamwork. The lone gun usually doesn't survive long with a charge up the middle. You need to work together to be successful. Just about every position on the map has a flanking spot so it is hard to camp forever. Execution mode has to be one of the funnest as you have to kill your opponent with a melee attack. You put enough rounds into them, they go down and you have about 10 seconds to get to them to finish them off (curb stomp on the head, chainsaw or shotty usually do it). So much fun!

Oh, and the single player is fantastic. The Corpser battle was amazing.

[GunnyMo]

I really need to know...


Is the Megadeth song in the game????

I'm a half hour away from playing this thing goddamnit - or playing more Call of Duty 3 at any rate...

I haven't heard it yet but I'll bet you it plays over the credits. The in game music is excellent, though.

[Mortis]

I haven't heard it yet but I'll bet you it plays over the credits. The in game music is excellent, though.

I didn't watch all the credits but I think it was just game music and then some odd song. I think Dave Mustaine said in the interview with Major Nelson that by the time they renamed the song to Gears of War the game music was already final.

[Double T]

FYI, I bought COD at circuit city today and they are giving away a free 10 dollar gift card with purchase. I used that on the already on sale 12+1 month Xbox live ($30) then will buy GOW with free faceplate (http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Gears-of-War-Faceplate-Xbox-360/sem/rpsm/oid/163316/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do) at 5pm.

Life is good

[Returner]

:) I really like GoW. There are a few things that bother me but I'll keep it to myself, I don't want to start any flame wars. :)

[ezzkmo]

I just bought it this afternoon, brought it home, and now I'm about to bring it the rest of the night. ;)

I fired it up for 30 minutes or so, and I'm loving it so far. The presentation and visual style is amazing. I love the war torn city. And also Firefox 2.0 for just correcting me that war torn is 2 words and not one.

[Schnoogs]

Here's some constructive criticism.

The controls are a bit hard...I would say that 33% of the time the "A" button doesnt do what I think or want it to do.

There have been quite a few times where I've died because instead of hugging the wall he dives out into the open...or I try to run and he does anything but that.

Your squad....USELESS. The manual says that if you hold the top left button and hit "Y", "B", or "A" you can control them. Has anyone gotten that to work?? Half the time theyre all dead within seconds and I'm too pinned down to help them. They suck to be honest...

[Jack B]

Happy Birthday Kelegacy. If you get a 12/13 month subscription to Live Gold, does that mean you are going to the other side? No more 360 rants? :)

I'm about to jump back on and finish up act two. I will probably give multi a try tonight. It should be a blast if my teammates don't kick me for sucking.

Stick to Hardcore for the better AI. I was tempted to drop down to casual, but if I go past the 4 hour mark (I'm at about 3 now) for Act 1, I'll either shoot myself or drop down to casual... :)

[Jenga]

Played some co-op with a friend. Excellent game. Chainsaw is so fucking awesome.

[Codicier]

I didn't watch all the credits but I think it was just game music and then some odd song. I think Dave Mustaine said in the interview with Major Nelson that by the time they renamed the song to Gears of War the game music was already final.

Doesn't the 360 support custom soundtracks?

Just get the song on there and get going. :)

[Kelegacy]

Happy Birthday Kelegacy. If you get a 12/13 month subscription to Live Gold, does that mean you are going to the other side? No more 360 rants? :)

I'm about to jump back on and finish up act two. I will probably give multi a try tonight. It should be a blast if my teammates don't kick me for sucking.
I fucking hate all of you. My birthday, gonna spent killing monsters with friends in co-op, but guess what? Wal-Mart, Circuit City, EB, EVERYWHERE doesn't have the game or sold out of it. Every store in the city. WTF.

Oh yay, I have a XBL Gold card sitting here waiting until tomorrow. This wasn't a great day anyway; I'm rather grumpy on my birthdays, in real life I actually hate being the center of attention and birthdays pretty much thrust you in that role without your consent. Last year I fucking went beserk at the office when my coworkers somehow found dozens of pictures from me from birth to adulthood and plastered them all over my desk and walls for my 25th, and I proceeded to rip them all down as soon as I walked in for the morning. This year they didn't do anything out of fear of my anger.

But I turned down a few drinks at a bar to go buy Gears of War and get online. I failed. My birthday is an utter failure.

[Dag-Sabot]

I turned down a few drinks at a bar to go buy Gears of War and get online. I failed.I cannot respect you any less about now.

[Mortis]

Doesn't the 360 support custom soundtracks?

Just get the song on there and get going. :)

Yes indeed that could be done. Really though the audio and game music are so well done I don't want to play anything over it. You really need to hear the enemies also to stay alive.

I just completed Act 1 on insane, it wasn't that bad really, the squad AI seems better to me on that difficulty. I don't know if I can get past some of the harder parts on insane though, I can't stop playing this game damnit.

Damn Kel, that's rough man. Happy Birthday though!

[QueeG-Servo]

The multiplayer is a breath of fresh air on the 360 scene. It's all about tactics, and cover. So far, in my matches, I have instigated the conversation with my team. Once I started talking, they all chimed in, and we were instantly calling out enemies, suggesting flanking moves, and coordinating attacks.

PURE, FREAKING, AWESOMNESS!!!!!!

[RandomViolence]

I fucking hate all of you. My birthday, gonna spent killing monsters with friends in co-op, but guess what? Wal-Mart, Circuit City, EB, EVERYWHERE doesn't have the game or sold out of it. Every store in the city. WTF.

Oh yay, I have a XBL Gold card sitting here waiting until tomorrow. This wasn't a great day anyway; I'm rather grumpy on my birthdays, in real life I actually hate being the center of attention and birthdays pretty much thrust you in that role without your consent. Last year I fucking went beserk at the office when my coworkers somehow found dozens of pictures from me from birth to adulthood and plastered them all over my desk and walls for my 25th, and I proceeded to rip them all down as soon as I walked in for the morning. This year they didn't do anything out of fear of my anger.

But I turned down a few drinks at a bar to go buy Gears of War and get online. I failed. My birthday is an utter failure.

Ummm, happy birthday? If you want I'll come up and cheer you up with those fuzzy handcuffs just the way you like it.

Seriously, though, happy birthday man! I'll drink one for ya.

[Wolfgang]

After 1hr of playing Gears and CoD3 my 360 broke :(

It was one of the old ones (made on 10/15/2005), so I am getting a free repair -- but talk about a TEASE!

[Major Dan]

I finally got my copy. EB hadn't received the damn shipment yet so I drove around and found it at a Walmart, one that just opened today. I was so mad and then so happy :)

This game is incrediable!!!

It really is fun to play. Can't wait to try some Co-op over live, although right now I am helping my son finish his homework.

Catch you all later as a COG

[Dag Nasty Evil]

I swear to god. From now on...anyone that asks that question gets banned for the day. That shit comes up too much.

It's on the front page because we put it there.

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.

[RandomViolence]

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.

Yeah, fuck you editors for putting editorial content on the front page!

Hey, wait...

[F3nyx]

Last year I fucking went beserk at the office when my coworkers somehow found dozens of pictures from me from birth to adulthood and plastered them all over my desk and walls for my 25th, and I proceeded to rip them all down as soon as I walked in for the morning. This year they didn't do anything out of fear of my anger.jesus christ. Did you even, you know, attempt to let them know you appreciated the thought? Or did you just let them think, correctly, that you're a total sociopath?

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.You're a moron. Editorial content on the front page has been standard around here for a hell of a lot longer than you have.

[Dag Nasty Evil]

Yeah, fuck you editors for putting editorial content on the front page!

Hey, wait...

What about this post is anything but him saying how much he likes the game?
Something he could have done in the 3-4 Gears threads in the forums.

I want my "Daily Gaming News", not "I'm gonna post how much I love a game everyone else loves too, and has been talking anout for the past day and a half, because I fucking can" I mean seriously in the past year/ year and a half if noticed a severe drop in quality in from age "news".

But, yes I do want Gears, and I will be picking it up tomorrow so I'm not saying this because I dislike the game.

[Adam Blue]

What about this post is anything but him saying how much he likes the game?
Something he could have done in the 3-4 Gears threads in the forums.

I want my "Daily Gaming News", not "I'm gonna post how much I love a game everyone else loves too, and has been talking anout for the past day and a half, because I fucking can" I mean seriously in the past year/ year and a half if noticed a severe drop in quality in from age "news".

But, yes I do want Gears, and I will be picking it up tomorrow so I'm not saying this because I dislike the game.

I'm no....rocket scientist, but fuck this is his site(next to Evil), and he can pretty much do whatever he wants. This site started as a blog. There's no reason it cannot continue to do so. I respect the opinions of the editors, which is why I frequent here. You are just wrong, and rude.

And this ventation comes from the fact that I lost my 360. That damn thing is getting repairs/replaced while everyone else is playing GoW.

[Zeal]

Who needs game reviews when you have my impressions.

[OUX]

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.

Uh are you stupid? Him saying he liked the game is a review. Given it is not an in depth annotated review that cites other games and carries on for 4 pages of blathering, but anytime someone give their opinion it is a review because that is what a review is. Now if Bap really hated the game but for "some reason" was singing its praise I would have a problem with that, but I like this site because I trust the mods and their opinions. False news is one thing but this isn't being proclaimed as "news." It is on the front page yes. This is the place that the mods put things that they deem worthy whatever that may be. So now I will revert to my former post: SAY WHAT AGAIN!

[QueeG-Servo]

I want my "Daily Gaming News"


you want....


YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut up, you little self-centered bastard.

Who gives a shit what you want.



This site is geared toward giving informative, entertaining, and insightful "news" to those who wish to visit. If this isn't news to you, then keep your mouth shut!

This site is not called Dag Nasty's Cared-about Topics.

Other people put their time, effort, and freaking heart into creating something that is SO MUCH bigger than your worthless little rant about how YOU don't think something belongs on the front page.

Why don't you go ask your mom if she cares, because as of now, that's your last hope of finding sombody who does.

[eth3rton]

It's on the front page because we put it there.


HELL YEAH...!!

Holy Shit. I must say Gears of War lives up to the hype...so far.

OMFG this game is sooooooooo COOL...!!

[Jenga]

As far as I see it, it's their site, they can do whatever the hell they want with it. You know you could just...IGNORE this post. Not like you're being forced to read it. If they made like 4 or 5 posts concerning how GoW is awesome, then yes I'd understand but you're just overreacting here.


you want....


YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut up, you little self-centered bastard.

Who gives a shit what you want.



This site is geared toward giving informative, entertaining, and insightful "news" to those who wish to visit. If this isn't news to you, then keep your mouth shut!

This site is not called Dag Nasty's Cared-about Topics.

Other people put their time, effort, and freaking heart into creating something that is SO MUCH bigger than your worthless little rant about how YOU don't think something belongs on the front page.

Why don't you go ask your mom if she cares, because as of now, that's your last hope of finding sombody who does.Um...I think you're taking this a little too personally don't you think?

[TheHulk]

As Cartman would say... "Screw you guys!" It'll be about 2 weeks before I get to play it due to work and a trip to New York. Have fun with it! And Bap, we need more of these on the front page, not less. I'd like to see something like this on all the major release that come out, not just for the 360, but every system.

[MaiXu]

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.

Say it with me now ... "too."

You want news? Go to IGN. No wait, they're a bunch of tools. Try GameSpot. No, they're a bunch of cornfed corporate boys. Um, Kotaku?

This is the kind of stuff that makes Evil Avatar a good read. Stick around for a while, you'll grow to appreciate it. I for one put more stock in a minireview from Bap than I do the anonymous 9s and 10s this game is earning elsewhere. Don't like it? There's the door.

[smellytim]

I dont know if anyone clarified in the first 100 posts, but while only one person can pick up COG tags, they count for both people in the game.

[Lekon]

I just got to play the game finally. Sweeeeeet and fun game so far.

Here's my curiosity though. What genius at Activision wanted to release COD3 against this? I mean, it seems like a horrid idea to just put two big FPS games against each other.

Then again.. They really should have released this game last week. Viva Pinata is going to kick its ass come thursday. I mean cmon' Talking Magic Pinatas vs Gears of war? I think we know who'll win.

-Kidding, of course.-

[Major Dan]

Dude, like I totalllly forgot about that game. I gotta go pre-order that right awwayy.

Actually they may be on to something there, my 10 year old really liked the interactive demo. Who knows the next Pokemon???? :eek:

[imagecreature]

Just play co-op with a friend on live. - Two Big Thumbs Up!

[Jack B]

Hey don't get all pissy at me because your ego is to big to but your "Gears of War" rant in the forums. If this were an actual review I'd have nothing but happy, nice things to say, but to often I see either, news that's not fucking news (read: this topic) or some stupid unresearched bullshit that just gets pulled an hour later.

If Penguin gets mad at you it won't have anything to do with his ego. I'd say his ego is no bigger than it should be. :)

Go build your own successful website and you can choose your own format for the front page. It's good to be king. :D

[eth3rton]

Go build your own successful website and you can choose your own format for the front page. It's good to be king. :D


This is Baps site...? Then who the hell is EA...?

[Zeal]

Then who the hell is EA...?
http://movies.monstrous.com/pictures/evil_dead_03.jpg

[Jack B]

This is Baps site...? Then who the hell is EA...?

Relax. "King" was meant to refer to Dag's role if he owned a website, not Penguin's.

[endrom]

I got the game and Im on Act 5, Anyone got hints on how to kill general RAAM on the train? its a fricking bat fest.

[Rirath]

For the record, Dag has a point. This topic is basically forum fodder given front page postage. You may not agree with it, but stop jumping all over him already... I came to this site to get away from that type of garbage. And to everyone telling him to "build his own site", oh please. I hoped to never see such lines on a site such as this.

This is a community site, it's been said a billion times. A community site should accept all input, even if it's "WTH is this here?", not just "Because we say so." If it's "because we say so", then it doesn't need to be said. I hope this site never becomes another case of us-vs-them with the reds and their support group, and everyone else.

[Adam Blue]

I dont know if anyone clarified in the first 100 posts, but while only one person can pick up COG tags, they count for both people in the game.

You are awesome just for registering to post this bit of info that I don't think many people were clear about...at least I had no idea. Kudos.

And Zeal, second Evil Dead reference today. You must be my brother from another mother.

[F3nyx]

For the record, Dag has a point. This topic is basically forum fodder given front page postage. You may not agree with it, but stop jumping all over him already... I came to this site to get away from that type of garbage. And to everyone telling him to "build his own site", oh please. I hoped to never see such lines on a site such as this.What, exactly, is your hang-up with editorial content on a game that came out yesterday? And Dag probably wouldn't have gotten flamed if he'd attempted the tiniest sliver of civility.

This is a community site, it's been said a billion times. A community site should accept this kind all input, even if it's "WTH is this here?", not just "Because we say so." If it's "because we say so", then it doesn't need to be said. I hope this site never becomes another case of us-vs-them with the reds and their support group, and everyone else.Accepting all input and weilding the banhammer are mutually exclusive. You make the site sound like a democracy, when in fact it's a dictatorship just like any website. The "community" isn't obligated to put up with that shit.

[DeathtollWRX]

Most.Fun.Coop.Evar

[Abash Alarmist]

Just got done with a 3-4 hour marathon of Gears of War online. Within the first 5 minutes of me booting up the game, and 10 seconds into the prison scene, I was summoned into a game with some EvAV members. It was baptism by submersion, but I just got to say that it was fucking amazing. Hiding behind a stairwell and popping out with a-chainsaws ablazing...Gold moment.

[phantomhitman]

Single player story-decent
Environment-flipping sweet
Tarded ai teammates-oh noz
Bringing in another human to help through co-op-priceless

If only more games could offer this. 2 people playing together through the whole single player campaign, that is just lollipops and sugar canes.

[MrMeatshake]

could anyone answer a question i have aboot the controls? - is there a southpaw type control setup - a la the halo games? or can u swap the 'move' and 'aim' sticks? i haven't got the game yet as i live in the UK, and i ask not for me, but for a friend, you understand...

[Dag-Sabot]

Relax. "King" was meant to refer to Dag's role if he owned a website, not Penguin's.

What?! Is someone finally impersonating me?

[CptTripps]

could anyone answer a question i have aboot the controls? - is there a southpaw type control setup - a la the halo games? or can u swap the 'move' and 'aim' sticks? i haven't got the game yet as i live in the UK, and i ask not for me, but for a friend, you understand...

You know, I was browsing through the controls a tad just to look at the sensitivity. There is some customization available so I'm guessing this would be possible but am not sure.

Also on controls, I understand why they have had poo flung at them, but I also understand what they tried to do with it. They are not buggy to me at all and just take some getting used to. After 6 hours last night, my last 5 online matches played very well and I only accidentally did a dive roll once that costed me my life. Now that I have them down, I like the controls very much.

Ok... on to the game.

Single Player - Loving it, 50" Samsung is pure bliss with GoW. The acting is cheesy sometimes, but I would not say it's even close to the worst I've heard. The A.I., I haven't had a problem with yet (started on hardcore). They may not be brilliant but have yet to get me killed. Graphics and sound I'm sure you know the answer to this one. I've also seen complaints about enemy A.I. with them just sitting there and not moving, on this I have a theory.... they are pinned and scared to move because they know they will die. I had it happen to me online, I was flanked, the last one alive and there was nothing I could do but die. Just a guess, but the enemy has been very challenging and I have not run into this issue.

Split Screen Co-Op - Awesome, me and the wife were actually playing and she was really starting to dig it. She is not one for the bouncy\twitch FPS games and the slower tactical pace of this really appealed to her.

*note* You are always running with AI squadmates, having someone join for co-op just fills one of your squadmates with an actuall person. Therefore there is no need for difficulty scaling imo.

Live Drop-In Co-Op - Awesome, worked perfectly with no lag and playing co-op while still having your full screen is fantastic.

And the icing on the cake.... LIVE 4x4 matches!!! OMG!!!
I have not had this much fun since I first played BF1942. The matches are very intense, I was actually talking to my team (I rarely chat on live) and getting a kill is very satisfying. It must be experienced to really understand, but once you get the hang of it I have played nothing better in years and years. I think any more than 4x4 would lead to less tactical gameplay, it is perfect.

My online story, playing the level with the train that runs through the middle. We were down a man with 3 vs. 4 and getting schooled. I grabbed some good cover and waited on the other side of the tracks. I spot the enemy running up and taking cover. Looking around I see no mates, they must have taken the low road for a flank, oh well I'll just hold the line until they show. The train passes, two COG burst across the tracks and climb the platform. One stumbles right into my chainsaw as he rounds the corner I'm hiding behind. His buddy runs past without noticing me so I shoot him, shoot him right in the head with about 30 rounds, he dies... As the train passes the enemy across the way watch as I kill their friends. I return to cover just as the other two charge across, while filling one full of holes as he climbs onto the platform the train rolls through and creams his mate. I get the victory screen stating that I got the final kill, then the window comes up that shows scores and teams..... I am the only one on my team, my squad had all left the game and I didn't notice. So bascially I got to wipe out an entire team and felt like John Rambo doing it. Needless to say, the wasted me until the match was over after that, but damn if I will not be playing all night tonight!!!

GO GOW!!!!

[GunnyMo]

I agree with you on the story, Cpt. I've had many genuine, out loud laughs at the dialog. I really get a sense of Marcus' frustration at what is going on and how he's stuck in the middle of it yet he keeps his sense of humor. There is a line where he responds to Dom asking, "Did you see that?" and Marcus says, "Yeah, I did. Kinda wish I hadn't." has me rolling with laughter at his sarcasm (I crack a smile every time I think about it) but saddened by the sad and desperate way he said it. John DiMaggio is an amazing voice actor.

I hadn't mentioned the seamless online co-op yet so thanks for doing so. It is excellent. I was playing single player yesterday, Jesse James 27 wanted to play, I dropped him an invite and fifteen seconds later my AI mate Dom started moving around as Jesse took over. No loading, no restarts, nothing. Just pick up and go. Brilliant!

[Jack B]

What?! Is someone finally impersonating me?

The other Dag. Dag Nasty Evil. Not, that you aren't deserving of being King at some point... :)

[Jack B]

Note on AI, because I've seen it in a few threads. Your squad AI on Hardcore is OK, but they do die, but that's OK. You're supposed to be the hero. If they were as good as you, then it would be like Big Trouble in Little China when Jack Burton (Kurt Russell) and his buddy Wang are about to face off with about ten of Lo Pan's evil henchmen. Jack Russell accidently flings his gun behind a crate while trying to get it off safety. By the time he retrieves it Wang has already dispatched all the henchmen... You need to be Wang or you can't "save the day" so to speak, that's why your friendly AI can't be too good. Helpful, but not better than you.

Regarding the enemy AI, on Hardcore they don't stand in the open. They use cover very effectively. They flank agressively. If they see you, you're flanking plan is busted. They don't sit around waiting behind cover. They press the issue. Sometimes they press the issue and die, but they also retreat and roll backwards or run to a cover when you get the upper hand. All in all, they are pretty crafty for enemy AI. I've seen much worse and personally haven't experienced any better. Also, they are very good shots. Don't stick your head out for long or you get it shot off.

I've heard on casual they are inclined to stand in the open etc., but how can you complain about weak AI on the "easy" setting.

As for the Insane level of difficulty... From what I've heard it's tougher than Legendary on Halo 2, so that's saying something. Wonder who on EvAv will be the first to complete the achievement for that? If it's tougher than Legendary, I have zero chance. :o

[GunnyMo]

Heh, I just finished the game on Hardcore and tried the prison level on Insane. Insane is a good word. :) It's gonna take a while to beat Insane single player. I'm up to do it co op tho.

[Johan]

I'm enjoying this game immensely (I caved and bought it...hate spending that much money, but such is life!). It's a blast to play through the levels with my brother.

I also had the thought that I really enjoy the rumble feature, and I think PS3 players (with other games, as GoW will OBVIOUSLY never be on the PS3) will miss that in some games.

And the A-button for running...one of the BEST effects I've ever experienced in a game. Absolutely intense and immersive. Actually makes me tense up (and VERY few games are able to get me that immersed in them).

Unbelievable game. Terrifically fun. Love it!

[Kelegacy]

Had a good time tonight, somewhere in Act 2. Played Co-Op for a quick game, was great fun. If I'm around tomorrow night, someone needs to catch up with me for some more action. I really sucked at first, but now I've got it down good. If not, Saturday during the day and maybe Sunday afternoon.

You know where to find me.

[Zeal]

How did yall get your copies early...I thought it didn't come out until the 12th.

I'm getting mine in the mail on the 13th.

[Chimp]

Last year I fucking went beserk at the office when my coworkers somehow found dozens of pictures from me from birth to adulthood and plastered them all over my desk and walls for my 25th, and I proceeded to rip them all down as soon as I walked in for the morning.

Yeah, how dare they care enough about you to go through the trouble of trying to do something nice for your birthday. What assholes!

This year they didn't do anything out of fear of my anger.

Or, perhaps they realized you're a tool (as least as far as birthdays go), and decided to leave you to wallow in your misery. :rolleyes:

[Johan]

<blah blah blah>

Have the good sense and decorum on a forum to realize that, with all of your NINE FREAKING POSTS, you haven't earned the right to rip on long-timers.

That's pretty freaking basic forum-101 right there. Who cares what your point is? Are you on topic? No...you're just being insulting, so please STFU and try again in a thousand posts or so and several months later. :rolleyes: And at that point....STFU again; please.

If he wants his birthdays understated and under the radar, why the hell would you care? I'm the same way; I don't really care for the attention. I celebrate my kids birthdays, but mine is just another day. Get me a video game and I'm a happy camper with that, and that alone.

On topic: Great game. Not overrated; terrific gameplay, visuals, and online co-op rocks. A definite BUY recommendation.

[F3nyx]

Have the good sense and decorum on a forum to realize that, with all of your NINE FREAKING POSTS, you haven't earned the right to rip on long-timers.

That's pretty freaking basic forum-101 right there. Who cares what your point is? Are you on topic? No...you're just being insulting, so please STFU and try again in a thousand posts or so and several months later. :rolleyes: And at that point....STFU again; please.Come on, you think a high postcount grants some kind of immunity from criticism? I haven't spouted enough on this site to break a thousand -- does that mean I'm not allowed to "rip on long-timers"? And it's not as if he just joined yesterday, either...

Kelegacy made himself sound like a goddamn sociopath. I'm a bit shocked that nobody else seemed to notice.

[Johan]

Come on, you think a high postcount grants some kind of immunity from criticism?

To continue this thread jack: That's not my point at all. If you lurk for months or years, it's highly unlikely people will get to know you very well within the forum. High post counts mean the person has at least been "talking" with others, and builds a reputation (EVERYONE knows a bit about people like fitbabits, Zeal, GunnyMo, others who have been around a while AND posted their opinions...we may not like what we have to say all the time, but we get to know one another a bit, at least).

It's the reputation (built by actually interacting with others on the forum) which provides context for criticism, and allows someone who has been here for a loooooong time with lots of posts to get away with calling people out more, since they're obviously out there themselves, taking the risk of having the same done to themselves. AND they're a contributing part of the forum.

That's my opinion. Disagree if you will, but I think defending a nine-post-count lurker who pops in to attack someone and then pops back out is pretty silly. Let him/her contribute to the site a bit in words/threads and build a rep./connection with others first.

As an analogy, I'm much more inclined to take criticism from someone I actually talk with, interact with, and know a bit about than from some fool who just walks up to me and starts sticking his/her opinion in my face. Screw that type of person. This, btw, is why I'm not saying, "FUCK YOU" to you...because I know a bit about you and respect your opinion. I just disagree with it.

IF you were a nine-post-count lurker, however, I would tell you off. As it is, I respectfully disagree! :)

[torrefaction]

I'm completely impressed with this game. I beat the Coop on Hardcore last night with Lexicon, and it was a goddamn blast. We went on to play some Coop and tore it up (3 vs 4) :D.

Really...This game plays incredibly, and the tactical nature of the multiplayer is just freakin awesome.

[Kelegacy]

Kelegacy made himself sound like a goddamn sociopath. I'm a bit shocked that nobody else seemed to notice.
Are you prejudice against sociopaths? They are people too, you know.

People love me in the office, I'm a very likeable, mirthful guy. However, birthdays are not a great time for me. I had a bad commute that morning and I took it out on them as a result. I apologized, but I adamantly stated I didn't want anything special for my birthday this year (though I did that year, too). I don't like to be the center of attention, like I said before, but birthdays require it of you. And this is my work station, so people are going to see me all day with shit plastered to the walls and basically screaming, "IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY!! LOOK AT HIM! GIVE HIM ATTENTION!"

I didn't like it. I'm sure you and other people attacking me have had blow-ups before as well. I never lose my cool, as I'm a peaceful grunt. But on birthdays I'm for some reason predisposed to grumpiness.

Wish me a happy birthday, toss a present my way, but don't make a spectacle of it.

[Dag-Sabot]

Kelegacy made himself sound like a goddamn sociopath. I'm a bit shocked that nobody else seemed to notice.I did.
I turned down a few drinks at a bar to go buy Gears of War and get online. I failed.I cannot respect you any less about now.
Also: Way too much information. I dont care to know Kel's stand on birthdays. Oh! He doesn't like being the center of attention? Yet he needs to use this thread as a personal "Dear Diary, you're not going to believe what happened at the office today.." entry.

[GunnyMo]

To thread jack even further, this guy leaves his pals at the bar so he can find gears?? Man, no offence, great game, but you might be a loser.


Yeah, 'cause we all know drinking yourself into a puking stupor, passing out in the gutter and possibly getting arrested and spending the night in jail is something only the cool kids do. :rolleyes:

[Chimp]

Have the good sense and decorum on a forum to realize that, with all of your NINE FREAKING POSTS, you haven't earned the right to rip on long-timers.

And perhaps YOU should realize, regardless of how many posts you have on an internet forum, that in real life the proper response to someone attempting to do something nice for you (even though they may annoy you in their attempt) would be to say "Thank you very much. I appreciate the gesture, but I don't like a big fuss being made about my birthday. If it's all the same to you, I'm going to take these pictures down" rather than flying into a blind rage and ripping their hard work to shreds.

But hey, what do I know, I only have nine posts on Evil Avatar and am therefore unsuited to comment on someone's lack of social skills. I'll be back when I've "earned the right." Actually, since you seem to be the arbiter of such things here, please drop me a PM when you feel I may post again. Thanks!

Edit: And to actually add to the thread at hand, and thereby earn Johan123's undying respect and admiration through my ability to contribute to EvAv, I'll add that Gears of War is just an amazing experience. The polish exhibited by this title is nothing short of amazing. Epic should be proud of what they've done here - they've made the 360 a real contender, with just this title alone.

[Kelegacy]

Yeah, 'cause we all know drinking yourself into a puking stupor, passing out in the gutter and possibly getting arrested and spending the night in jail is something only the cool kids do. :rolleyes:
And furthermore, I work for a living and am of an age where I don't want to go to work with a hangover. My birthday was on a Wednesday. I passed up a night of boozing in the middle of the week, OMG. I go out nearly every weekend to make up for it, and even if I didn't who cares. Unlike some of these bastards, I don't live in my mother's basement, jobless, or go to college, so a night of relaxing with a game is something I look forward to because I don't get to do it all day long like them.

I was a lush in college. I'm past the age where drinking is "cool", though it's still something I enjoy as a fairly responsible adult. I'll have titties in my face and a beer in my hand this weekend; I think that beats partying on a Wednesday evening by myself or with office drones, birthday or not.

[Johan]

But hey, what do I know, I only have nine posts on Evil Avatar and am therefore unsuited to comment on someone's lack of social skills. I'll be back when I've "earned the right."

Well...at least we agree on that point then! Good for you in seeing the error of your ways!

Actually, since you seem to be the arbiter of such things here, please drop me a PM when you feel I may post again. Thanks!

Anyone who names themselves "Chimp" needs more than a PM for assistance...and the only arbiters here are the reds. You offered a dumbass opinion of a person's character, jacking the thread, and I called you out on it, dipshit. :rolleyes:


Edit: And to actually add to the thread at hand, and thereby earn Johan123's undying respect and admiration through my ability to contribute to EvAv.

You've got a ways to go before you get that far... :rolleyes: Go back to lurking...or EVOLVE from the chimp you are and start posting on topic. :cool:

[torrefaction]

And furthermore, I work for a living and am of an age where I don't want to go to work with a hangover. My birthday was on a Wednesday. I passed up a night of boozing in the middle of the week, OMG. I go out nearly every weekend to make up for it, and even if I didn't who cares. Unlike some of these bastards, I don't live in my mother's basement or go to college, so a night of relaxing with a game is something I look forward to because I don't get to do it all day long like them.

I was a lush in college. I'm past the age where drinking is "cool", though it's still something I enjoy as a fairly responsible adult. I'll have titties in my face and a beer in my hand this weekend; I think that beats partying on a Wednesday evening by myself or with office drones, birthday or not.

Really, you shouldn't bother explaining yourself. About 1/3 of Chimp's posts have been chiming in to diss people, if you look at his post history. He's just a malcontent looking to appear smart by dissing someone elses social choices

Don't fall off your high horse chimpy, it's pretty high up and may hurt.

[Kelegacy]

Really, you shouldn't bother explaining yourself. About 1/3 of Chimp's posts have been chiming in to diss people, if you look at his post history. He's just a malcontent looking to appear smart by dissing someone elses social choices

Don't fall off your high horse chimpy, it's pretty high up and may hurt.
I was directing my comment towards Dag-Sabot.

[Dag-Sabot]

Yeah, 'cause we all know drinking yourself into a puking stupor, passing out in the gutter and possibly getting arrested and spending the night in jail is something only the cool kids do. :rolleyes:

Please Gunny, are you that childish? Having a few beers on YOUR BIRTHDAY with your FRIENDS doesn't equal Auto-visit-to-the-drunk-tank. I used to be suprised and wonder where these weirdos came from, those who forgot how to function with real live humans...
edit: Kel Ive been to college too, yet i dont need to bore people with stories of my drinking adventures. If you cant have a beer on a Wednesday and still come to work on a Thursday, call A.A.

[Jack B]

Yeah, 'cause we all know drinking yourself into a puking stupor, passing out in the gutter and possibly getting arrested and spending the night in jail is something only the cool kids do. :rolleyes:

Have to agree with you on this one. Peer group pressure has killed a ton of people. "Just have one more for the road... Come on' drink with us...". I'm glad Kelegacy wouldn't give in any peer or "social" pressure "not to be a loser"... Screw that. Leaving a bar to get Gears sounds like a good idea to me.

[torrefaction]

Please Gunny, are you that childish? Having a few beers on YOUR BIRTHDAY with your FRIENDS doesn't equal Auto-visit-to-the-drunk-tank. I used to be suprised and wonder where these weirdos came from, those who forgot how to function with real live humans...

*Hypocrisy Alert*

You're posting on a GAMING news site, criticizing someone who decided they wanted to play one of the best games of the years on their birthday. Because he didn't feel like going out with his office buddies, that makes him a weirdo?

I've passed up partying plenty of times to play games. Odds are my social life has been much richer than yours (Not a comment about you, but more about the somewhat wild life I led for a long period of time).

Who's the one that's childish here, that drinking suddenly becomes required on your birthday? Sounds like me when I was 15.

[Jack B]

Please Gunny, are you that childish? Having a few beers on YOUR BIRTHDAY with your FRIENDS doesn't equal Auto-visit-to-the-drunk-tank. I used to be suprised and wonder where these weirdos came from, those who forgot how to function with real live humans...

I forgot it was on his birthday. I suppose it depends on whether his friends are there a ton anyway... whether they made a long trip... whether he already had a couple drinks and spent an hour or two...

I don't have enough info and we probably don't need to go any further... :) My guess is, that he had fun, but just didn't want to spend his whole evening drinking at a bar. I've done both, but birthday's aren't a big deal to me and at Kel's age, my guess is his buddies may have forgotten he left another drink into their evening. I know, that's how it was for me in my 20's. :)

OK. Back to Gears talk... Once you get seamless cover movement down, it's heaven. I love swat turns. :)

[Johan]

This thread needs a new title: Gears of SHIT WE'VE BEEN JACKED!

[F3nyx]

Are you prejudice against sociopaths? They are people too, you know.

People love me in the office, I'm a very likeable, mirthful guy. However, birthdays are not a great time for me. I had a bad commute that morning and I took it out on them as a result. I apologized, but I adamantly stated I didn't want anything special for my birthday this year (though I did that year, too). I don't like to be the center of attention, like I said before, but birthdays require it of you. And this is my work station, so people are going to see me all day with shit plastered to the walls and basically screaming, "IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY!! LOOK AT HIM! GIVE HIM ATTENTION!"

I didn't like it. I'm sure you and other people attacking me have had blow-ups before as well. I never lose my cool, as I'm a peaceful grunt. But on birthdays I'm for some reason predisposed to grumpiness.

Wish me a happy birthday, toss a present my way, but don't make a spectacle of it.Okay, that does put it in perspective. I'm glad you returned to explain.

[Dag-Sabot]

*Hypocrisy Alert*

You're posting on a GAMING news site, criticizing someone who decided they wanted to play one of the best games of the years on their birthday.
Oh pardon me sir, i dont eat, sleep, and drink gaming. Do I have to resign? Oh you think you might have a better social life than me now? Are you a retard? And just how are we going to determine that? I was merely pointing out that having human interaction has more value in this instance. Especially on the one day of the year that others recognize you. Besides all that you can still have a few beers and go looking for the game. All this aside, nothing like giving someone who secretly craves attention what he wants..

[Kelegacy]

I forgot it was on his birthday. I suppose it depends on whether his friends are there a ton anyway... whether they made a long trip... whether he already had a couple drinks and spent an hour or two...

I don't have enough info and we probably don't need to go any further... :) My guess is, that he had fun, but just didn't want to spend his whole evening drinking at a bar. I've done both, but birthday's aren't a big deal to me and at Kel's age, my guess is his buddies may have forgotten he left another drink into their evening. I know, that's how it was for me in my 20's. :)
As a child, every birthday I was raped by our church's priest, Father Caleb. He would ask that I come to the parish and ravage my body severely. While doing so, he would drink alcohol and pour beer over my supple young body, laughing as he had his way with me.

This may be why I don't celebrate my birthdays with alcohol.

[torrefaction]

Oh pardon me sir, i dont eat, sleep, and drink gaming. Do I have to resign? Oh you think you might have a better social life than me now? Are you a retard? And just how are we going to determine that? I was merely pointing out that having human interaction has more value in this instance. Especially on the one day of the year that others recognize you. Besides all that you can still have a few beers and go looking for the game. All this aside, nothing like giving someone who secretly craves attention what he wants..

I said odds are. That's all. The vast majority of people I've met haven't really gone off the deep end the way I did. That's a good thing, and as I said, it wasn't a negative comment against you.

You must've missed the whole part where he doesn't like to be the center of attention on his birthday, and just had a rough day. Some people just don't like recognition.

How does human interaction "have more value", than something you've really been looking forward to. Because it's an arbitrary day when you where born? Personally, I almost never celebrate my birthday on a weekday. The weekends before and after are better for that.

[Dag-Sabot]

As a child, every birthday I was raped by our church's priest, Father Caleb. He would ask that I come to the parish and ravage my body severely. While doing so, he would drink alcohol and pore beer over my supple young body, laughing as he had his way with me.

This may be why I don't celebrate my birthdays with alcohol.Thanks for the explanation, again way too much info, but whatever, enjoy your own personal blog-thread..
Secretly i can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

[Kelegacy]

Secretly i can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.
Huh, why's that?

[Dag-Sabot]

I said odds are. That's all.
Great.. Now call Vegas, you butterfly they'll want to know.

[Dag-Sabot]

Huh, why's that?The Suspense: "Will he have a good day at the office or no?" or "Will he see a funny looking dog on the way home that deseves commentary on or not?"
Just too many variables. Its like a forum version of Dilbert.

[Kelegacy]

The Suspense: "Will he have a good day at the office or no?"
"Will he see a funny looking dog on the way home that deseves commentary on or not?"

Just too many variables. Its like a forum version of Dilbert.
Wow, someone doesn't like me. That's okay, though. I understand some people may feel threatened by my rich personality and phosphorescent charm.

[torrefaction]

The Suspense: "Will he have a good day at the office or no?"
"Will he see a funny looking dog on the way home that deseves commentary on or not?"

Just too many variables. Its like a forum version of Dilbert.

Jesus you're inane. God forbid someone make a comment about how disappointed they are that they didn't get the game, and relate an anecdote about disliking birthdays.

[fargo]

agreed... killer game!

[Dag-Sabot]

Wow, someone doesn't like me. That's okay, though. I understand some people may feel threatened by my rich personality and phosphorescent charm.You're mistaken: I neither like nor dislike you. -I don't know you. I was pointing out that for a guy who doesn't like "being the center of attention" you sure like to post long winded dissertations on how you don't like being the center of attention on your birthday. I don't care, I pre-ordered.

[Dag-Sabot]

Jesus you're inane. God forbid someone make a comment about how disappointed they are that they didn't get the game, and relate an anecdote about disliking birthdays. Maybe you're right. How was your Birthday?
My Favorite bithday was my 24th. We were doing deep-ocean research at the time.. Miles away from anywhere, with over 5,000 m below the keel on a bumpy and rainswept sargasso sea. I was convinced that no one remembered the birthday of a lowly, and then much derided, bosun's mate. But after completing my watch I discovered that while I was tracking squalls and fighting sleep and seasickness on radar watch, scrubbing many a filthy toilet, and getting thoroughly soaked checking on the equipment on deck, the cook had secretly prepared my favorite: "Chickenwings and chocolate squares" ..with purple frosting! Apparently one of the mates had looked up my name and birth date in the ship's log/duty roster. It was the best birthday ever! They even did the song, gave me a signed card and everything. Much later, even though we were a "dry" ship i found a bottle of beer in my bunk.
*sniff*

GOW rocked. Im so happy with it.

[Johan]

WTH ?

[Megalith]

I want to know why the graphics in this game are Xbox 3.

This is what H2 was supposed to look like.

[Chimp]

Really, you shouldn't bother explaining yourself. About 1/3 of Chimp's posts have been chiming in to diss people, if you look at his post history. He's just a malcontent looking to appear smart by dissing someone elses social choices

Don't fall off your high horse chimpy, it's pretty high up and may hurt.

I have to admit - I'm astounded at the number of people defending Kelegacy's actions. If you guys truly believe they way he reacted is O.K., I'm frankly astonished. Defending his "social choices" because he's a "regular" and I have nine posts to my name is ludicrous.

And Johan123, the best you can do is comment on my choice of forum names? Clever. At least torrefaction went through the trouble of looking at my back posts and noting the possible irony of me talking about someone else's behavior while posting negative things on an internet forum. Well played, sir! Johan123, please take notes from torrefaction in the future.

[Dag-Sabot]

Now do a caricature of me, chimpy.

[torrefaction]

Maybe you're right. How was your Birthday?
My Favorite bithday was my 24th. We were doing deep-ocean research at the time.. Miles away from anywhere, with over 5,000 m below the keel on a bumpy and rainswept sargasso sea. I was convinced that no one remembered the birthday of a lowly, and then much derided, bosun's mate. But after completing my watch I discovered that while I was tracking squalls and fighting sleep and seasickness on radar watch, scrubbing many a filthy toilet, and getting thoroughly soaked checking on the equipment on deck, the cook had secretly prepared my favorite: "Chickenwings and chocolate squares" ..with purple frosting! Apparently one of the mates had looked up my name and birth date in the ship's log/duty roster. It was the best birthday ever! They even did the song, gave me a signed card and everything. Much later, even though we were a "dry" ship i found a bottle of beer in my bunk.
*sniff*

GOW rocked. Im so happy with it.

What exactly does this have to do with Gears though? Kel was saying his birthday was a failure because he failed to succeed at getting gears...

Eh..Whatever. The difference here is I'm not going to rail on you for posting, and distract from the topic at hand because you decided to post about your 24th birthday.

[Kelegacy]

I have to admit - I'm astounded at the number of people defending Kelegacy's actions. If you guys truly believe they way he reacted is O.K., I'm frankly astonished. Defending his "social choices" because he's a "regular" and I have nine posts to my name is ludicrous.

And Johan123, the best you can do is comment on my choice of forum names? Clever. At least torrefaction went through the trouble of looking at my back posts and noting the possible irony of me talking about someone else's behavior while posting negative things on an internet forum. Well played, sir! Johan123, please take notes from torrefaction in the future.
I thought I explained myself. I said I overreacted, I apologized to them, but I still made it clear that I didn't want them to do anything like that to me this year. I had a rough commute and even though I didn't yell at anyone, my grumpiness and obvious irritation was seen as I tore down all my pictures and decorations.

I apologized that same day, after I cooled down. I can't remember why I was like that that morning, but they know I'm not typically a pissant. It was just a greasy bubble in my otherwise civil dealings with human beings.

And the reason they are defending my social choices is because, well, they are my choices. A game I wanted to play came out that day so I ran home to buy it. People can't really condemn me for that, not on a gaming site.

[Johan]

Johan123, please take notes from torrefaction in the future.

Notes from torrefaction? Yes; happily...though I'm of the opinion that checking a nine-post history (now a few more) is a waste of my time, and in your case, I was correct.

Notes from you? Uh...NO. :rolleyes:

I'll be waiting for Darwin to work things out with you, too.

[torrefaction]

Exactly what I was thinking when i read Kel's post. Followed closely by, "Who gives a shit".

You apparently cared more than anyone else, considering your continuous railing against his post :rolleyes:

*Edit*

Heh. Did you delete your post? Is it because you noticed the part where I said the difference is I wouldn't rail against you for posting something in line? His comments at least had something to do with gears. It's a forum, for conversation.

[Dag-Sabot]

IAnd the reason they are defending my social choices is because, well, they are my choices. A game I wanted to play came out that day so I ran home to buy it. People can't really condemn me for that, not on a gaming site.This is what I don't understand. And as stated before, im obviously not a leet gamer, but even I, a lowly weekend gamer made a point to pre-order this despite my apprehensions.
What exactly does this have to do with Gears though?Exactly what I was thinking when i read Kel's post. Followed closely by, "Who gives a shit".
You apparently cared more than anyone else, considering your continuous railing against his post :rolleyes:

*Edit*

Heh. Did you delete your post? Is it because you noticed the part where I said the difference is I wouldn't rail against you for posting something in line? His comments at least had something to do with gears. It's a forum, for conversation.
Brutal. It took me that many posts to argue my point im not railing at anyone; I still don't care.
Nope, just edited it insted of triple posting. And i added a gear reference at the end of my sea story. Feel free to discuss.

[torrefaction]

This is what I don't understand. And as stated before, im obviously not a leet gamer, but even I, a lowly weekend gamer made a point to pre-order this despite my apprehensions.
Exactly what I was thinking when i read Kel's post. Followed closely by, "Who gives a shit".

Nope, just edited it insted of triple posting. And i added a gear reference at the end of my sea story. Feel free to discuss.

I'm not sure, but he may well have preordered it. I did, and didn't get my copy. I was lucky another store had it in, despite shipping problems...even though EB still has my $5.

/Obligatory Better off Dead reference.
I want my 5 dollars!

[Dag-Sabot]

I'm not sure, but he may well have preordered it. I did, and didn't get my copy. I was lucky another store had it in, despite shipping problems...even though EB still has my $5.

/Obligatory Better off Dead reference.
I want my 5 dollars!
Ok... but would you ditch your friends to look for this/play this on your birthday? Just humor me.

[torrefaction]

Ok... but would you ditch your friends to look for this/play this on your birthday? Just humor me.

Heh. Entirely possible. Unless of course my birthday fell on a week. I don't really think this classifies as ditching, he said he just didn't go.

My friends know I'm a gamer, and would just laugh when they realized how bad I wanted to play it.

Again, this is the wrong forum to call someone out for this type of thing.

[Dag-Sabot]

Heh. Entirely possible. Unless of course my birthday fell on a week. I don't really think this classifies as ditching, he said he just didn't go.

My friends know I'm a gamer, and would just laugh when they realized how bad I wanted to play it.

Again, this is the wrong forum to call someone out for this type of thing.
a) You're being evasive.
b) Read his post. He says he turned down drinks from his friends to go looking.
c)I agree, also the wrong place to post your birthday stories of freaking out at your office cause you went off your nut that day.

[Kelegacy]

Ok... but would you ditch your friends to look for this/play this on your birthday? Just humor me.
You need to stop assuming things. I didn't ditch my friends and never said I did. I didn't have any plans preset. Some people from work (co-workers, NOT friends) were going out and I didn't go with them. I went home instead and swung by the game stores to pick up the game. EB's shipments were late and the other stores were sold out.

You seem to have some crazy vendetta going right now. Saying how bad a person I am for leaving my "friends", how much of a loser I am because I didn't choose to go drinking on a Wednesday evening, that I'm a social retard because I went home to play a videogame after work.

You assume a lot. I could assume you're a total asshole, and from the stuff you've said so far in this thread, I doubt I'd be far off.

[Dag-Sabot]

You need to stop assuming things. I didn't ditch my friends and never said I did. I didn't have any plans preset. Some people from work (co-workers, NOT friends) were going out and I didn't go with them. I went home instead and swung by the game stores to pick up the game. EB's shipments were late and the other stores were sold out.

You seem to have some crazy vendetta going right now. Saying how bad a person I am for leaving my "friends", how much of a loser I am because I didn't choose to go drinking on a Wednesday evening, that I'm a social retard because I went home to play a videogame after work.

You assume a lot. I could assume you're a total asshole, and from the stuff you've said so far in this thread, I doubt I'd be far off.
Now you're making assumptions. I wasn't the one that called call you a sociopath (although "i think" its likely true). And I had earlier erased the "loser" part of my post, that gunny managed to quote. The only thing I did try to do was attempting to upbraid you for posting your adventures here. To be fair you said you turned down drinks. That means you were there already for someone to offer you one. No vendetta, I promise, just making some "bullshit" calls.

[GunnyMo]

Please Gunny, are you that childish? Having a few beers on YOUR BIRTHDAY with your FRIENDS doesn't equal Auto-visit-to-the-drunk-tank. I used to be suprised and wonder where these weirdos came from, those who forgot how to function with real live humans...
edit: Kel Ive been to college too, yet i dont need to bore people with stories of my drinking adventures. If you cant have a beer on a Wednesday and still come to work on a Thursday, call A.A.

Sorry, I forgot the sarcasm tag to make what I said blindingly obvious.

[torrefaction]

Now you're making assumptions. I wasn't the one that called call you a sociopath (although its likely true). And I had earlier erased the "loser" part of my post, that gunny managed to quote. The only thing I did try to do was attempting to upbraid you for posting your adventures here.

Erasing loser from a post does not mean it didn't happen. And he related his story about how he failed to get Gears, so his story was relevant. Regardless, your railing against this is trivial.

[Dag-Sabot]

Erasing loser from a post does not mean it didn't happen. And he related his story about how he failed to get Gears, so his story was relevant. Regardless, your railing against this is trivial.
I was editing not going back and retracting. Otherwise I completely agree, but its a slow day and you haven't answered my question, truthfully.

[torrefaction]

I was editing not going back and retracting. Otherwise I completely agree, but its a slow day and you haven't answered my question, truthfully.

Dude...I wasn't being evasive.

If my birthday was on a weekend, I'd probably go out. If it was on a weekday and it was the Gears launch, I probably wouldn't. I'm glad you live in a black and white world (I'm sure it makes decision making easy, like deciding to rail against a gamer for going home to play a game), but situations are conditional for me.

In other words, I think there is nothing wrong with Kel trying to play Gears.

[Kelegacy]

Now you're making assumptions. I wasn't the one that called call you a sociopath (although its likely true). And I had earlier erased the "loser" part of my post, that gunny managed to quote. The only thing I did try to do was attempting to upbraid you for posting your adventures here.
Many of us on EvAv are not just disembodied screen names, anonymous members. We are characters, personalities, and we treat each other like a makeshift internet family. We fight, we laugh, we tell stories. I'm known for my long-winded rants, my colorful tales of such and such. By giving insight into our lives offline, we let other people into our existence beyond gaming.

I understand that may bother you, but it may also be why none of us know anything about you, and your voice isn't unique among the thousands of others that post on this site. I'm forthcoming with information, but it's not because I'm a lonely little man sitting at home friendless and looking for e-companionship. I do it because I want to, and in two years of typing this is the first time someone has gone batshit crazy over one of my little "window" posts.

But you'll have a unique voice after today, no doubt. Another forum asshole--like we need one more.

[Dag-Sabot]

Dude...I wasn't being evasive.

If my birthday was on a weekend, I'd probably go out. If it was on a weekday and it was the Gears launch, I probably wouldn't. I'm glad you live in a black and white world (I'm sure it makes decision making easy, like deciding to rail against a gamer for going home to play a game), but situations are conditional for me.

In other words, I think there is nothing wrong with Kel trying to play Gears. I was just curious. Im not judging: I just wanted to hear from someone that they would ditch/avoid/cancel plans/not make plans with their real-life friends for the chance to buy this game. I don't know if theres something "wrong" with it or not. But is this the thread to be posting about it? And then making me post over and over just to get an answer?

[torrefaction]

I was just curious. Im not judging: I just wanted to hear from someone that they would ditch/avoid/cancel plans/not make plans with their real-life friends for the chance to buy this game. I don't know if theres something "wrong" with it or not. But is this the thread to be posting about it? And then making me post over and over just to get an answer?

You didn't have to. You could've taken the time to read my first post, and realize that I was saying I would play this game rather than hanging out with my friends. And you only posted once, saying I was being evasive, and then I clarified.

You certainly do a funny little dance with logic.

[Dag-Sabot]

Many of us on EvAv are not just disembodied screen names, anonymous members. We are characters, personalities, and we treat each other like a makeshift internet family. We fight, we laugh, we tell stories. I'm known for my long-winded rants, my colorful tales of such and such. By giving insight into our lives offline, we let other people into our existence beyond gaming.

I understand that may bother you, but it may also be why none of us know anything about you, and your voice isn't unique among the thousands of others that post on this site. I'm forthcoming with information, but it's not because I'm a lonely little man sitting at home friendless and looking for e-companionship. I do it because I want to, and in two years of typing this is the first time someone has gone batshit crazy over one of my little "window" posts.

But you'll have a unique voice after today, no doubt. Another forum asshole--like we need one more.Maybe so, but with all due respect, I haven't gone "batshit crazy", or even gone as far as calling you an "Asshole". So no need to patronise, I know how an internet forum works. And pardon my objections to your little fire-side chats. I've heard better. Again, as a sociopath you're likely to be your own biggest fan.

[Zeal]

Dag-Sabot, will you shut up, fag warrior. You don't even know the guy you're intentionally trying to start an argument with.

OK, I cannot believe my Gears of War will not arrive from Amazon until the 20th. All I can say is NEVER get the $4 standard shipping, because the date is listed as shipped on the 10th and expected arrival on the 20th.

What the hell is that. Seriously.

[Johan]

Gears of War...yeah! :)

Oh...sorry; what were we actually talking about? ;) Let's ask the monkey...

[Kelegacy]

Dag-Sabot, will you shut up, fag warrior. You don't even know the guy you're intentionally trying to start an argument with.

OK, I cannot believe my Gears of War will not arrive from Amazon until the 20th. All I can say is NEVER get the $4 standard shipping, because the date is listed as shipped on the 10th and expected arrival on the 20th.

What the hell is that. Seriously.
Why don't you go buy it now and return Amazon's version to the store? Really, it's a hoot. We can play some co-op or kill some other EvAvers if you're up for it, too.

[Dag-Sabot]

Dag-Sabot, will you shut up, fag warrior. You don't even know the guy you're intentionally trying to start an argument with.

OK, I cannot believe my Gears of War will not arrive from Amazon until the 20th. All I can say is NEVER get the $4 standard shipping, because the date is listed as shipped on the 10th and expected arrival on the 20th.

What the hell is that. Seriously.
Seriously? You got owned. You always pay for next day.

[torrefaction]

Why don't you go buy it now and return Amazon's version to the store? Really, it's a hoot. We can play some co-op or deathmatches against the other EvAv sissies!

What was that? I thought I heard you say "Or get chainsawed and curb stomped repeatedly by torrefaction".

[Zeal]

Let's ask the monkey...

We're talking about Gears of Awesome, Sweet and Cool.

Gears of War is so freakin' sweet...that one time...this kid dropped a spoon in a restaurant...and GEARS OF WAR TOTALLY FLIPPED OUT AND KILLED EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE TOWN.

[torrefaction]

We're talking about Gears of Awesome, Sweet And Cool.

Gears of War is so freakin' sweet...that one time...this kid dropped a spoon in a restaurant...and GEARS OF WAR TOTALLY FLIPPED OUT AND KILLED EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE TOWN.

Oh Christ. Someone read Real Ultimate Power.

My girlfriend got me that book.

[Kelegacy]

What was that? I thought I heard you say "Or get chainsawed and curb stomped repeatedly by torrefaction".
Oh, I've only played for a few hours but I have no doubt I'll have my ass handed to me numerous times. Especially against live human opponents.

[Dag-Sabot]

You didn't have to. You could've taken the time to read my first post, and realize that I was saying I would play this game rather than hanging out with my friends. And you only posted once, saying I was being evasive, and then I clarified.

You certainly do a funny little dance with logic.Logic? No, coprehension. I asked whether you would abandon your friends not to "play" but... that they would ditch/avoid/cancel plans/not make plans with their real-life friends for the chance to buy this game. And you sir, would like a chance for a foxtrot with comprehension skills. But the dance card is full and yours, empty.

[torrefaction]

Logic? No, coprehension. I asked whether you would abandon your friends not to "play" but to have a "chance at buying". And you would like foxtrot with comprehension skills.

Right. If I'm playing the game, that typically requires me to purchase it. And I'm sure as hell going to play it if I do buy it. Kel had a preorder, so he had every expectation of getting the game.

So...yeah, logic.

[Dag-Sabot]

Right. If I'm playing the game, that typically requires me to purchase it. And I'm sure as hell going to play it if I do buy it. Kel had a preorder, so he had every expectation of getting the game.

So...yeah, logic.
A "chance" to buy means that you may or not be successful in the attempt.

[torrefaction]

A "chance" to buy means that you may or not be successful in the attempt.

Nitpick much?

And FYI, the night I got it, I had offers from friends to go out. Knowing that I couldn't get this from EB, I told them that I was going to be trying to get this game. I had to drive to another city to get it.

So, there's your ass, regardless of how relevant it is. It should be fairly obvious from my posts that I would, but I guess this isn't going to end until I spell it out for you that yes, even for the chance to buy.

I also told my girl I'd be meeting with her later because I was going to be trying to pick this up. She understood, because she knows I'm a gamer.

God.

[Dag-Sabot]

Nitpick much?Nope. Thanks. -Just curious what one would risk for a Klondike bar.

[Zeal]

Back on topic, assholes.

[Dag-Sabot]

Back on topic, assholes.I love the game despite my pessimism. Totally lived up to the hype. I want to use the sniper rifle. Theres no drivable vehicles, right?

[Goronmon]

Everyone argues now, but you know you'd accept a game invite if it popped up on your screen. ;)

[Megalith]

Why does the blood look like Chinese hot sauce.

[Chimp]

zAnd the reason they are defending my social choices is because, well, they are my choices. A game I wanted to play came out that day so I ran home to buy it. People can't really condemn me for that, not on a gaming site.

Nor would I. Sorry if I was unclear - I was only commenting on your post where you spoke about ripping down the pictures that your workmates had put up in honor of your birthday. Wanting to go home and play GoW is to be commended in my book :).

[Chimp]

Gears of War...yeah! :)

Oh...sorry; what were we actually talking about? ;) Let's ask the monkey...

Gears of OH MY GOD KELEGACY RIPPED THE PICTURES DOWN!!!111ONE.


You've forced me to contribute and have raised my post count from Peon to Squire. Perhaps you've won after all...very sneaky.

[Goronmon]

Why does the blood look like Chinese hot sauce.What the hell have you been ordering?

[Jack B]

Dag-Sabot, will you shut up, fag warrior. You don't even know the guy you're intentionally trying to start an argument with.

OK, I cannot believe my Gears of War will not arrive from Amazon until the 20th. All I can say is NEVER get the $4 standard shipping, because the date is listed as shipped on the 10th and expected arrival on the 20th.

What the hell is that. Seriously.

Zeal, you could just buy a copy locally and return the 2nd one for store credit. You'll be playing this weekend if you do. Good luck.

You might like it. Luke Smith say's Halo is his Mario and he loves Gears. I'm sure you've read enough to know it has a different style than Halo. Hope you like it. :)

[Jack B]

Why does the blood look like Chinese hot sauce.

Because they were all out of Mexican hot sauce. :)

[Zeal]

ON THE 1UP SHOW....YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE A STAR....ON THE ONE UP SHOWWWWW YOU ALREADY AARRR::chainsaw to the fucking head::

[Johan]

Gears of OH MY GOD KELEGACY RIPPED THE PICTURES DOWN!!!111ONE.


You've forced me to contribute and have raised my post count from Peon to Squire. Perhaps you've won after all...very sneaky.

You're at 13! Now I'm listening! :)

Yeah...I'm a sneaky bastard, too! :)

-no hard feelings!-

[Dag-Sabot]

Why does the blood look like Chinese hot sauce.It all looks like Chinese hot sauce, you're in trouble when it actually tastes like Chinese hot sauce.

[Chimp]

You're at 13! Now I'm listening! :)

Yeah...I'm a sneaky bastard, too! :)

-no hard feelings!-

Likewise :).

[Zeal]

Does the game look better when you play it in 720p or 1080i.

It is natively set to 720p, right.