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Switcher
05-11-2005, 11:53 AM
In an interview conducted just yesterday in Japan, Square Enix President Youichi Wada had nothing but positive things to say about recent announcements made by Nintendo, specificly their online plan, and upcoming console.

"What increased our interest further," states Wada regarding the networking plan, "is that the next step is already being prepared for Revolution." Nintendo's networking plan is, according to Wada, "not just a portable, not just a console -- it's exactly what we wanted in that it's the birth of a completely new platform."

Check out IGN's article (http://cube.ign.com/articles/611/611909p1.html?fromint=1) for the full scoop.


Not possible for Square Enix support being a bad thing - especially in Japan.

bapenguin
05-11-2005, 11:56 AM
I remember when live was first coming out, and they talked about the next step with it. One of the things MS said was that you'd be able to get stats/score/friends lists from other mobile devices. Like be able to see info on your cell phone, etc. This never really came to fruitation. Hopefully Nintendo pulls off something like this with being able to see the same information from your NDS,GBA2,Revolution, etc. Centralized, unified information access is really pretty exciting.

falak
05-11-2005, 12:05 PM
This never really came to fruitation.Is this what happened to the killer tomatoes? :D

Liquidize105
05-11-2005, 12:12 PM
Oh, I think it's gonna be better than simple score listing, much better.

H.M._Murdock
05-11-2005, 12:19 PM
Maybe if Nintendo's online is so great maybe SquareEnix will re-release a version of Crystal Chronicles that’s fun to play without 4 GBAs.

The Radical Cleric
05-11-2005, 12:26 PM
The article mentions that you will only be able to connect with people "that you have met in real life". :confused: I'm open minded, but I can't see how that's feasible, as only a few of my Live friends are people I've met in real life...and also, how would the service know this? Because you told it so? :confused: I don't know what to think. I'm firmly on the fence about Nintendo at this point.

Abednigo
05-11-2005, 12:27 PM
I believe that the lack of Square games on the N64 kind of doomed the GC too (along with the MANY other developers that didn't release games for it). This whole lack of respect and/or faith in Nintendo really started with the N64 and it's cartridge format. If Nintendo had gone another way, I bet we would have seen FFVII, VIII, IX and X on a Nintendo platform instead of on the Playstation/PS2. Things would probably be very different now. Hopefully this is a sign of the good things to come for Nintendo. Not that things are really bad (unless you're a Sony or MS fanboy), but I'd like to see Nintendo get the same respect industry-wide as Sony and Microsoft get.

King Drewsky
05-11-2005, 12:28 PM
This is a pretty big endorsement from a company that hasn't made a "real" console game for Nintendo since the SNES (FF CC, doesn't count).

Tricky Thumb
05-11-2005, 12:33 PM
This is a pretty big endorsement from a company that hasn't made a "real" console game for Nintendo since the SNES (FF CC, doesn't count).

Uh, FF:CC doesn't "not count" just because you said so.

This is gonna be really interesting at E3, oh yes.

ÜberJumper
05-11-2005, 12:39 PM
I WILL BUY A REVOLUTION IF IT HAS FM5 ON IT THAT DOESN'T SUCK... errr sorry

Reanimated
05-11-2005, 12:42 PM
Death throes are funny to watch.

jeffool
05-11-2005, 12:57 PM
...not just a portable, not just a console -- it's exactly what we wanted in that it's the birth of a completely new platform.

So... A portable console. Cool.

CapnBob
05-11-2005, 12:57 PM
Death throes are funny to watch.

Square-Enix is dying? Wow. I thought they were still really popular.

Rakael
05-11-2005, 01:21 PM
This is all just getting strange.

Reanimated
05-11-2005, 01:26 PM
Square-Enix is dying? Wow. I thought they were still really popular.



:rolleyes:

Who said anything about SquEnix dying?

Mason
05-11-2005, 01:29 PM
How many other people are secretly predicting that on the day that the Revolution is finally revealed, Iwata-san will solemnly approach the podium, look over his notes, and then proceed into a rousing speech about how there is no need for a Revolution console, because the spirit of the gaming revolution is in all of you (pointing emphatically), and that you already embody it in every waking moment of your lives, so no console will ever be necessary again!

The room will then fall silent.

Testcase
05-11-2005, 01:43 PM
:rolleyes:

Who said anything about SquEnix dying?

YOU'RE dying??
Dude that sucks.

:p

CapnBob
05-11-2005, 01:58 PM
Who said anything about SquEnix dying?


Well, the article is about them and how much they like the Nintendo online plan, but it leaves out most of the specifics of Nintendo's plan or any of their own hype about it. So, either you're talking about Square Enix or you're posting in the wrong thread. Unless of course you've seen the full plan yourself, verified how it actually functions, travelled to the future to see how successful it is, seen it fail, travelled back in time and spent your afternoon commenting on how Nintendo is in its death throws in a thread about how a third party has commented that they really like the plan. In which case, you a total retard for wasting your time posting here when you could be out there winning the lottery and playing games on your Playstation 4.

Kelegacy
05-11-2005, 02:24 PM
As long as Square doesnt become a pet of Microsoft, I dont care where they go. I dont hate MS, but it's just a personal thing I guess. Square could almost singlehandedly bring Nintendo back into the forefront of gaming--not a bad thing but i doubt games like Manhunt or GTA would ever surface on that system. I'm an adult, i want adult content (even if the games suck...appease me!)

I want the next GTA games, Final Fantasy and assorted other great series as a staple for the next round...so wherever those games go I'm going. I'll end up owning all the systems in the next 5 years, but who gets my money first will depend on the games. So far Sony gets the most of my dough, because the games I want to play the most show up on that system.

Kelegacy
05-11-2005, 02:27 PM
Uh, FF:CC doesn't "not count" just because you said so.

This is gonna be really interesting at E3, oh yes.

No, it really doesnt count. They put the name Final Fantasy on a game that wasnt on par with the heralded series. If it wasnt for that name, i doubt it would have been as popular.

cough Final Fantasy Mystic Quest cough

Furious Wang
05-11-2005, 03:12 PM
cough Final Fantasy jpop cough final fantasy 9 cough

codswallop
05-11-2005, 05:26 PM
This whole lack of respect and/or faith in Nintendo really started with the N64 and it's cartridge format.

I was sitting on my couch the other day, waiting for Jade Empire to load, when I realised how much I missed cartridges and their instant-loading.

The Gamecube load times aren't too bad, mainly because of the small discs. I hope load times don't get any worse with next-gen systems. Maybe the generation after next flash memory will be so cheap that we'll be using 4GB flash memory for games instead of discs.

mister_slim
05-11-2005, 05:52 PM
I think I'm at the point now where I'd rather Nintendo just wander off and quietly do their own thing. Then I can buy their consoles and games without having to listen to people weep for the illusionary Nintendo of their childhood.

Stryfe01
05-11-2005, 05:54 PM
Revolution=D-evolution...as in Ninty's death. No i am not completely writing off the big N, but it's very clear their next foray into the console war, is indeed again a reaction, instead of counter attack. They said online would never be big...here we go Live! is huge, Sony's online is capable, but not great. I'm all for the big N's creativity, but it's clear that they just keep on alienating gamers. How long can one company survive on niche gaming, and still be as profitable as they have been ?

mister_slim
05-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Revolution=D-evolution...as in Ninty's death. No i am not completely writing off the big N, but it's very clear their next foray into the console war, is indeed again a reaction, instead of counter attack. They said online would never be big...here we go Live! is huge, Sony's online is capable, but not great. I'm all for the big N's creativity, but it's clear that they just keep on alienating gamers. How long can one company survive on niche gaming, and still be as profitable as they have been ?
Predictions of Nintendo's death are more likely to be credible if you demonstrate that you have some idea what you are talking about.

ghost
05-11-2005, 06:52 PM
cough final fantasy 9 cough

I hope you aren't one of the people who looked at FF9's artistic style and decided to hate the game. Whether you liked the art style or not, that game had a great story that harkened back to classic Final Fantasy glory. Not the best FF, but a damn good one that too many people unfortunately decided to pass up.

mister_slim
05-11-2005, 07:08 PM
FF9 actually still looks pretty good. The art has held up quite well.

Kelegacy
05-11-2005, 07:11 PM
I hope you aren't one of the people who looked at FF9's artistic style and decided to hate the game. Whether you liked the art style or not, that game had a great story that harkened back to classic Final Fantasy glory. Not the best FF, but a damn good one that too many people unfortunately decided to pass up.

No shit. A good bad guy (thankfully, after 8's naught-seen time traveling phantom-body jumping queen or some crap) a good story and old-school environments and throwback character models (Black mage, etc) really made the game stand out. I liked it better than 8 by far. It was intended as an old school honorific but some people still hated it for reasons unfathomable by me.

cough Final Fantasy jpop cough final fantasy 9 cough

As for jpop...go stick your head in the mud. :confused:

Rommel
05-11-2005, 09:25 PM
Uh, FF:CC doesn't "not count" just because you said so.

Some could argue it is a GBA game, but I would disagree.

that game had a great story that harkened back to classic Final Fantasy glory.

FFIX was a fun little romp, but had one of the most ludecris stories of any RPG I have ever partook of. Enemies that killed thousands of people were forgiven and even honored. Enemies were revealed right before they were killed. Seriously, the game had the biggest plot holes and logical inconsistanies of any title in the series.

Loganrapp
05-11-2005, 09:56 PM
I'm sorry, every time I see someone talk about The Revolution, I can't help but say it like Dave Chappelle's impersonation of Prince.

Bushido
05-11-2005, 11:54 PM
How long can one company survive on niche gaming, and still be as profitable as they have been ?

i own a computer for my own personal use (the ultimate hardcore gaming machine) the only console(niche gaming) i bought was the GameCube and a ton of games, purely for the good clean fun it provides my familly. Would the Xbox have been better? Halo is for chumps, I cut my teeth on Quake and UT.Xbox LIVE! wtf would i use that for? when i have the GODAMN INTERNET by the godamn balls. How does nintendo survive? gee i dunno, they persuaded me to buy.

homunculus
05-12-2005, 02:31 AM
Anyone who says Nintendo is going down only has to look at Japan to see that they are extremely wrong. Man, it must be nice to believe that the world only revolves around America.

Gigadafud
05-12-2005, 05:07 AM
i am very interested to see what nintendo does this time around. i am not saying the GC was a success, but it was not a failure either. I own a GC and I am glad i bought it. Maybe i am a sucka for zelda/mario/mario kart/metroid, all those games you are NOT going to be play anywhere else but on Nintendo. so that is also i will also buy the Revolution. i cannot pass up those games. they are some of my favorites. i am sure that is true for alot of people and a respective system.

i also think that the one thing that could sway ALOT of people is that if Nintendo lures back in Square and some of the big name companies to develop some games for them again. the only thing that sucks imo nowadays is that alot of your 'big name games' seem to be one system exclusives. the xbox360 and revolution are going to be similar systems as far as hardware goes. sony, who knows with the cell chip. personally at this point i think its more hype than anything.

Gigadafud
05-12-2005, 05:09 AM
also, why can't e3 be held around the country. like michigan where i live, so i could go!!

VirgoBlu
05-12-2005, 09:54 AM
So is Square bringing Bust-A-Groove back for the Revolution? I'd buy one.

Stryfe01
05-12-2005, 01:15 PM
Anyone who says Nintendo is going down only has to look at Japan to see that they are extremely wrong. Man, it must be nice to believe that the world only revolves around America.

I'm wrong ? How ? A whole industry can't be wrong when nintendo is putting out 3rd and 1st party games at 1-2 every few months for it's flagship console. They can't be wrong when it makes "great" financial decisions that keeps costing them market share. If it wasn't for the collateral they have in the bank, and the continued success of their portable, there would be no Nintendo hardware maker today. Unlike some of you I really don't enjoy seeing the same IP in iteration XXI. I played GTA, I tried GTA:VC. I played and loved Halo (haters), and I liked Halo 2. Will I necessarily buy Halo 3, since the story is not finished yes. Though I am not expecting any breakthrough gameplay, or cinematic visuals. Nor am I picking up every cookie cutter PC\Xbox Fps made. I bought a gamecube for unique games, but that doesn't mean that the whole library of maybe 10-11 of them warrants me buying their console.

Again sorry, but i'm not playing "Mario Touch", or "Kirby's Air Ride Revolution". Just as I won't buy "Halo Broken Covenant", or Crimson Skies Zeppelin". The system that gets my money next generation will be the one that offers original games, some basic games (shooters etc) with great stories, and won't require me to be "Revolutionized" or "Emoted". Just give me great games, great features and make it worth the price.
It's my opinion, and if u dont like it fine.

Kelegacy
05-12-2005, 02:53 PM
Amount of consoles sold doesnt equal success generally. look at how many games are sold for each system, then the profit margin comes into focus. Sony has sold fucking tens of millions more consoles than each of the others and still has games that are reaching the 6 million copies sold mark. That's amazing. Despite the dated architecture of that system, it has held up splendidly. I dont see how that train can be derailed, unless MS buys all the development houses like Square, Capcom, Atlus, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and everyone else that makes the games that sell the most on the other systems.

I wouldnt put it past them goddamnit.

mister_slim
05-12-2005, 07:45 PM
I'm wrong ? How ?
Well, you started your previous post with a factually wrong characterization of Nintendo's online strategy, attributing to them words they have not said. STFU.

Stryfe01
05-13-2005, 08:41 PM
Well, you started your previous post with a factually wrong characterization of Nintendo's online strategy, attributing to them words they have not said. STFU.

factually wrong how ? nintendo clearly stated before that they did not believe that online gaming was viable enough to follow. then they released the BB adapter, and said they would not support it nor design infrastructure for it, but would leave that up to a developer's personal preference. Now all of a sudden it's Wifi in Revolution out of the box, and gamespy partnerships. where did i go wrong there ?

mister_slim
05-13-2005, 09:04 PM
They said online would never be big...
Source this, which I really doubt you can, or STFU.

Stryfe01
05-14-2005, 07:56 AM
Sure i'll post all i can find before i go wash my car. I have to say though that your an asshole. Really, couldn't you disagree without cursing ? Anyway...

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=3629
official BB announcement

http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/gamecube/games/news/36591.shtml
Iwata saying gamer's aren't demanding online games

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2495
Nintendo flip-flopping then blaming it on a posting error

http://www.n-sider.com/articleview.php?articleid=258&page=4
What else do you need ? Read the entire article.

I've owned every single Nintendo console released in NA, and i am still a Nintendo fan. However this time around Nintendo needs to work damn hard to recruit me. Like I said before, a stable of a few good IP's does not make a great system. I own all 4 this generation, and between all of them I have probably 200 games between Xbox and PS2, 50 for DC and maybe 10 for GCN. JRPG's and exclusives kept me playing my PS2, online kept me on my Xbox, I dust off my GCN each time a great title ships...Now how often has that become ? Where's the storm, besides Zelda, after RE4 ?

mister_slim
05-14-2005, 07:21 PM
I'll try to get through this without cursing. As I quoted you above, you implied that Nintendo stated online would never be big. I challenged you to back that up, as everything I seen from them stated that online was not yet viable (Has Xbox Live even hit 10% yet?), not that they would never do it (note: SNES and N64 both had modems of some kind, and the GC had an underutilized BBA), and your sources don't back up your claim. In one of your posts, you displayed the ability to distinguish between opinion and fact, and I have faith you can do it again.