View Full Version : Wii Component Cables No Longer Online Exclusive
mkelehan
11-04-2006, 06:00 AM
You may remember that many a Nintendo fan was disappointed to hear that component cables for the Wii would only be available online. Well, it looks like Nintendo has had a change of heart, according to Game Informer's recent interview with Perrin Kaplan (http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200611/N06.1103.1640.33657.htm).GI: Will component cables be available on day one?
Kaplan: Yes, at retail and online. Best Buy, GameStop, Circuit City, etc… and Nintendo.com.Emphasis added.
If this is accurate, bravo to Nintendo for reversing what could only be called a boneheaded move. Many of us early adopters are those with good TVs, and I wasn't planning on playing Zelda until I got the component cables to enjoy it in 480p. However, you remember Kaplan told us that the Wii would be region free, and that turned out to be a mistake... hopefully this is not another.
score
11-04-2006, 06:37 AM
I posted about this very thing (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20294) in the forums this morning :p
Good news all around I think
bapenguin
11-04-2006, 07:03 AM
Awesome. Should have been done from the start.
mkelehan
11-04-2006, 07:05 AM
Awesome. Should have been done from the start.
And the great thing is, since it's coming at launch, it WILL be done from the start. It's like their little mistake never happened.
Draft
11-04-2006, 07:09 AM
Perrin Kaplan is dumb as fuck so I would wait for someone with a pair of testicles to confirm this.
Mr.Green
11-04-2006, 08:38 AM
Women give you a hard time Draft? ;)
Yep, I really tihnk Perrin Kaplan should have lost her job over the 'region free' debacle. That was a serious flub up...even if she made a mistake during the interview she should have researched it afterwards and notified the interviewers.
Instead she left all the fans thinking that the Wii would end up being region free (as it freaking should well be!!). Boneheaded and clueless...can't do her job right. Fire her and get someone who knows the facts about their own product please.
Averic
11-04-2006, 09:36 AM
I just bought an HDTV and was going to use the regular AV cables . Is there really a big difference from A/V and Component to warrent the $20-$30?
GammaKitsune
11-04-2006, 09:52 AM
Great! Now I can hook my shiny new Wii up to the HDTV I won't be able to afford! And I don't have to order online to do it!
mkelehan
11-04-2006, 09:57 AM
I just bought an HDTV and was going to use the regular AV cables . Is there really a big difference from A/V and Component to warrent the $20-$30?
Not only do you have the difference between composite and component, but also the difference between 480i and 480p. Many HDTVs (mine included) don't do 480i too well, and do 480p very well. It's worth it.
Yep, I really tihnk Perrin Kaplan should have lost her job over the 'region free' debacle. That was a serious flub up...even if she made a mistake during the interview she should have researched it afterwards and notified the interviewers.
Instead she left all the fans thinking that the Wii would end up being region free (as it freaking should well be!!). Boneheaded and clueless...can't do her job right. Fire her and get someone who knows the facts about their own product please.
It was a simple mistake that was corrected MONTHS before anyone spent a dime on it. If people bought Wiis under the assumption that they were region free, then yeah, it's a problem. But to be honest, I'll bet Wii region coding wasn't even set in stone at that point. No big deal.
anakin876
11-04-2006, 10:07 AM
Great! Now I can hook my shiny new Wii up to the HDTV I won't be able to afford! And I don't have to order online to do it!
component cables can be used to hook up your Wii to many regular TVs. S-Video cables make a huge difference when compared to the regular A/V (composite) cables. The component cables are even better than S-Video. For those who have a progressive scan capable TV the component cables will make it possible to do 480p - but that's the only part of this that is HDTV pertinent.
If they were releasing an HDMI cable then your sarcasm would be more than applicable - but you can buy a 20" stereo TV with component inputs for 97 F******* dollars at Best Buy right now. So - component cables are not just for the elitist HDTV bastards - at this point in time standard TVs can make use of them as well.
Edit: paragraphs added in
GammaKitsune
11-04-2006, 10:29 AM
component cables can be used to hook up your Wii to many regular TVs. S-Video cables make a huge difference when compared to the regular A/V (composite) cables. The component cables are even better than S-Video. For those who have a progressive scan capable TV the component cables will make it possible to do 480p - but that's the only part of this that is HDTV pertinent.
If they were releasing an HDMI cable then your sarcasm would be more than applicable - but you can buy a 20" stereo TV with component inputs for 97 F******* dollars at Best Buy right now. So - component cables are not just for the elitist HDTV bastards - at this point in time standard TVs can make use of them as well.
Edit: paragraphs added in
You can't hook component cables up to my TV, as far as I know. Just A/V cables. I couldn't use them if I had them.
anakin876
11-04-2006, 10:38 AM
You can't hook component cables up to my TV, as far as I know. Just A/V cables. I couldn't use them if I had them.
I believe you - and my point wasn't all TVs can use these cables. Unfortunately not all TVs are awesome - especially if they are older. However, you don't have to drop $3k to use component cables. At this point entry level TVs can make use of component cables - and on the TVs that do have component inputs it makes a BIG difference when compared to standard A/V cables.
I used to game on a TV that was made in the early 80s and didn't have a Tuner capable of more than 36 channels. I had to get a VCR just so I could watch comedy central (channel 58 at the time) and plugging in A/V cables required using the A/V inputs on the VCR. I understand not being able to make use of component cables. But for a majority of TVs purchased in the last few years - component cables are useful and actually quite nice to have.
GammaKitsune
11-04-2006, 10:47 AM
I believe you - and my point wasn't all TVs can use these cables. Unfortunately not all TVs are awesome - especially if they are older. However, you don't have to drop $3k to use component cables. At this point entry level TVs can make use of component cables - and on the TVs that do have component inputs it makes a BIG difference when compared to standard A/V cables.
I used to game on a TV that was made in the early 80s and didn't have a Tuner capable of more than 36 channels. I had to get a VCR just so I could watch comedy central (channel 58 at the time) and plugging in A/V cables required using the A/V inputs on the VCR. I understand not being able to make use of component cables. But for a majority of TVs purchased in the last few years - component cables are useful and actually quite nice to have.
Certainly many newer TVs have this sort of functionality, but I'm speaking for the crowd that can't really afford anything like that. I would go so far as to say that a large number of people who will be getting new consoles will be playing them on old TVs. In particular, I'm speaking for many college students, who often have a fairly old, inexpensive TV and no money or desire to replace it. Certainly we can manage to drop a little bit of money on a new console and some games every now and again, at least with a bit of planning and perhaps begging, but a whole new TV is out of the question.
flinxz
11-04-2006, 11:02 AM
Certainly many newer TVs have this sort of functionality, but I'm speaking for the crowd that can't really afford anything like that. I would go so far as to say that a large number of people who will be getting new consoles will be playing them on old TVs. In particular, I'm speaking for many college students, who often have a fairly old, inexpensive TV and no money or desire to replace it. Certainly we can manage to drop a little bit of money on a new console and some games every now and again, at least with a bit of planning and perhaps begging, but a whole new TV is out of the question.
Jesus, it is like nobody is even reading what is said here. It was made very clear that a whole new TV with this capability is not out of the question. I do not know of very many people who can drop $300+ for a gaming system and not afford a $98 TV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7005787&st=component&type=product&id=1099392073893).
I am not saying that you have to buy a new TV, but stop with the out of reach bullshit.
If you have to scrimp and save to afford $300, another $100 for a shitty small 20" isn't a big priority. So stop with the available-to-everyone elitist HDTV-owning bullshit.
Vagabondllama
11-04-2006, 11:11 AM
Certainly many newer TVs have this sort of functionality, but I'm speaking for the crowd that can't really afford anything like that. I would go so far as to say that a large number of people who will be getting new consoles will be playing them on old TVs. In particular, I'm speaking for many college students, who often have a fairly old, inexpensive TV and no money or desire to replace it. Certainly we can manage to drop a little bit of money on a new console and some games every now and again, at least with a bit of planning and perhaps begging, but a whole new TV is out of the question.
My 2 year old $150 TV that supports component cables is "too expensive" for people? Component cables are pretty damn standard now. I don't even see what the big fuss is about HDTV and such, but it's certainly not difficult to get a new TV. If you don't have a TV in your household that can do component, then maybe it's time to get a new one anyway? Not saying you need to, but this shouldn't be something that we're arguing over.
flinxz
11-04-2006, 11:21 AM
If you have to scrimp and save to afford $300, another $100 for a shitty small 20" isn't a big priority. So stop with the available-to-everyone elitist HDTV-owning bullshit.
If you have to scrimp and save to afford $300 then maybe you should wait for a price drop.. You could pick up a Cube for less than $40 and a copy of Zelda for the Cube at $40 (I think). It has already been made very clear by you and others that componant cables are for HDTV elitists only. This route could save loads of money.
fable2323
11-04-2006, 11:42 AM
If you have to scrimp and save to afford $300, another $100 for a shitty small 20" isn't a big priority. So stop with the available-to-everyone elitist HDTV-owning bullshit.
If you are scrimping and saving to afford $300, thats your problem. Some of us having been gaming since the 80's and are now old enough to afford these luxuries. I want to view my games how they are intended to be viewed. If the box reads 480p widescreen with Dolby Pro Logic II support, thats how I intented to play it. Dont be a hater becuase you dont have an HDTV. Mature a little, start your career, build some success and believe it or not, one day you will be able to afford those luxuries too...
KSmitty
11-04-2006, 12:01 PM
My 2 year old TV was only $200 and it has component too. I am glad Nintendo decided to sell these cables as now I will be able to get them on launch day and not have to wait for mail order/ebay. And for those that don't know YES component makes a HUGE difference do yourself a favor and get component cables for whatever system you own (if your TV supports it)
-K
If you are scrimping and saving to afford $300, thats your problem. Some of us having been gaming since the 80's and are now old enough to afford these luxuries. I want to view my games how they are intended to be viewed. If the box reads 480p widescreen with Dolby Pro Logic II support, thats how I intented to play it. Dont be a hater becuase you dont have an HDTV. Mature a little, start your career, build some success and believe it or not, one day you will be able to afford those luxuries too...
Wow, what a huge douchebag.
f1sh3r
11-04-2006, 12:10 PM
If you have to scrimp and save to afford $300, another $100 for a shitty small 20" isn't a big priority. So stop with the available-to-everyone elitist HDTV-owning bullshit.
being poor really makes you angry eh?
f1sh3r
11-04-2006, 12:13 PM
Wow, what a huge douchebag.
no, actually he's telling it like it is. i know you little college kids think you make up a majority of anything, but reality says otherwise. :)
I like how you old farts think you make up a demographic worth catering to when all you do is whine about how you never have time to play or that "the PC I bought from Dell 5 years ago with onboard graphics won't run Oblivion! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!".
flinxz
11-04-2006, 12:27 PM
What does a five year old Dell running Oblivion have to do with component cables for the Wii?
About as much as flaming college kids for being poor.
flinxz
11-04-2006, 12:48 PM
About as much as flaming college kids for being poor.
Well I never flamed any college kids for being poor. I just said that if money is a problem you can play the new Zelda (primary reason for Wii it seems) for less than $100. In addition most new SDTVs have component inputs. It is very much worth the extra $30 to get the component cables if your TV can handle it.
To be honest, I don't even know the purpose of buying component cables for Wii or playing it on an HDTV.
Wii does not support HD or digital audio.
Oh and don't say 480p is HD.
flinxz
11-04-2006, 01:02 PM
To be honest, I don't even know the purpose of buying component cables for Wii or playing it on an HDTV.
Wii does not support HD or digital audio.
Oh and don't say 480p is HD.
Well Zeal A: Because 480p is HD.
Honestly Component, just like S-Video, looks much better than the standard AV cables on SDTVs, and even more so on HDTVs. If you are dumping a bunch of money to play a game, you may as well play it at its best, if you can.
Well Zeal A: Because 480p is HD.
Honestly Component, just like S-Video, looks much better than the standard AV cables on SDTVs, and even more so on HDTVs. If you are dumping a bunch of money to play a game, you may as well play it at its best, if you can.
Anything below 720p is not HD. Period.
Have you ever seen an HD channel broadcast in 480p. Don't be stupid here ok.
And I agree about playing games as they're intended. I refuse to play anything that isn't HD now.
KingGorilla
11-04-2006, 01:18 PM
no, actually he's telling it like it is. i know you little college kids think you make up a majority of anything, but reality says otherwise. :)
I do not fein fiscal responsibility, but the amount of money your grown ass men spend on toys is mind boggling.
That being said, I wonder how much the 8800's will retail for.
GammaKitsune
11-04-2006, 01:23 PM
Amazing. I try to make a simple point about saving up for selective luxuries (a new console) while making due with what I have (an old TV), and suddenly I'm painted as a fool. Money is a problem in college. I can't just go out and start a career; that's why I'm in college. There's something I really want (A Wii, Zelda) and I can manage to afford it with a little effort and planning. Heaping another $100 (or more) onto that for a TV and component cables, however, means I can't get what I wanted in the first place.
Take your collective sticks out of your asses and realize that the whole world has better things to do with money than blow it all on a whim. I have a TV, I don't have a Wii or Zelda, and I've got a limited budget of spending money. You would think my priorities would be clear to people.
anakin876
11-04-2006, 01:37 PM
Take your collective sticks out of your asses and realize that the whole world has better things to do with money than blow it all on a whim. I have a TV, I don't have a Wii or Zelda, and I've got a limited budget of spending money. You would think my priorities would be clear to people.
your sarcastic original comment is what opened up to storm - not the sticks up people's butts.
Great! Now I can hook my shiny new Wii up to the HDTV I won't be able to afford! And I don't have to order online to do it!
The point I was trying to make was A) component is nice B) lots of people have the option of component C) component does not have to be HDTV
Amazing. I try to make a simple point about saving up for selective luxuries (a new console) while making due with what I have (an old TV), and suddenly I'm painted as a fool. Money is a problem in college. I can't just go out and start a career; that's why I'm in college. There's something I really want (A Wii, Zelda) and I can manage to afford it with a little effort and planning. Heaping another $100 (or more) onto that for a TV and component cables, however, means I can't get what I wanted in the first place.
Take your collective sticks out of your asses and realize that the whole world has better things to do with money than blow it all on a whim. I have a TV, I don't have a Wii or Zelda, and I've got a limited budget of spending money. You would think my priorities would be clear to people.
Shut the hell up already everyone. If you don't want component cables, you don't have to buy them. For people who want them it is a good thing that they will be sitting in stores right next to the Wii on launch day (or so Kaplan would like us to believe). End of discussion
I would also like to say that component inputs are available on a lot of TVs and if you want to play widescreen/480p (EDTV) then you gotta have 'em. If you shitty TV doesn't have in then OK, drop it.
31 Flavas
11-04-2006, 03:40 PM
I refuse to play anything that isn't HD now.Sucks to be you.
Sophism
11-04-2006, 04:55 PM
I know so many people who buy new cell phones every four to six months at a cost of >$200 each but who think that my purchasing a 27 inch LCD for $400 was a ridiculous purchase.
And yes, that's how much mine cost, because I looked around for a bargain. It's an Insignia (Best Buy's in-house brand) that was on clearance, and it has served me quite well for 18 months now.
It's not that I don't have sympathy for the poor college student. I just think that when it comes down to it, it's really not something that is going to make the game more fun. More impressive, maybe. But "fun" is not something I've ever found to be determined by the crispness of graphics or lack of ghosting/artifacts.
Also, Zeal, I do get "HDTV" broadcasts in 480p. When I boot up my cable box options, it asks me if I want 480p, 720p, or 1080i. All three work. Also, I miss your red sig. I thought you were a yellow copycat until I saw your name.
Sophism
11-04-2006, 05:02 PM
Oh, and just for total confirmation, Best Buy posted what Wii products they'll have in stores on Launch Day. Here's what they officially have so far:
Component video cables (Best)
React brand SKU 8008988, $24.99
Psyclone brand SKU 7985727, $59.99
Also, Zeal, I do get "HDTV" broadcasts in 480p. When I boot up my cable box options, it asks me if I want 480p, 720p, or 1080i. All three work. Also, I miss your red sig. I thought you were a yellow copycat until I saw your name.
Yeah, dude, but HD channels only broadcast in either 720p or 1080i. What you're doing at 480p is actually downconverting the native signal.
By the way, is there a code to turn links from yellow to red. My signature's one giant link.
resikel
11-04-2006, 05:30 PM
Yeah, dude, but HD channels only broadcast in either 720p or 1080i. What you're doing at 480p is actually downconverting the native signal.
By the way, is there a code to turn links from yellow to red. My signature's one giant link.
Yeah. Highlight the "Finish the Fight" and change the color code from the pulldown menu to your liking.
Yeah. Highlight the "Finish the Fight" and change the color code from the pulldown menu to your liking.
Oh snap. This dude is smarter than Cortana.
MaiXu
11-04-2006, 05:37 PM
This is good news. Even if you don't have an HDTV, component cables do wonders for clearing up a 480i signal. I had component cables for my Xbox, PS2, and GameCube, and they were all hooked up to my 27" Sony Wega TV, which was not HD. The difference between the standard hookup and the component was night and day, especially on the PS2 (GTA looked like a whole new game). But even playing RE4, Halo, and Metroid Prime on my brother's TV, which had the same 480i signal but through the standard (out of the box composite) hookup, it was a distracting difference. The 480i without component cables presented muddy graphics, very little crispness to them, and dull colors. Everything was was sharp and popped with the 480i component.
So, in short: if you have an HDTV, of course you'll want the component cables. But if you have a normal TV capable of taking a component input, then by all means, the cables are worth a purchase. It really is that much of a difference.
Sophism
11-04-2006, 05:40 PM
Oh snap. This dude is smarter than Cortana.
So you know, I finally beat Halo 2 for the fourth time today, and I could not help but think of your sig the whole last half-hour or so. :p I WANT TO FINISH THE FIGHT!
JimmyDanger
11-04-2006, 05:43 PM
Oh, and just for total confirmation, Best Buy posted what Wii products they'll have in stores on Launch Day. Here's what they officially have so far:
Component video cables (Best)
React brand SKU 8008988, $24.99
Psyclone brand SKU 7985727, $59.99
That seems like a lot of money just for component cables ....
Is there a first party option?
(shudders to think what they'll be worth downunder - if Nintendo - infamous for their "kiddie" approach down here even release them....)
Also - RE: Component inputs/new tvs/panels/hdtv...
A decent VGA input/HDMI/component TV is one of the most sensible investments the modern gamer can make at the moment....A panel that can be universally used for all consoles you own - and even your PC - is an across the board investment in all your gaming areas at once. The expense is justified imho. If you can't afford it, well, cool beans, but don't have a go at HDTV owners for being "elitist" just because they chose to invest in something universally useful.
So you know, I finally beat Halo 2 for the fourth time today, and I could not help but think of your sig the whole last half-hour or so. :p I WANT TO FINISH THE FIGHT!
See you in online co-op.
Sophism
11-04-2006, 05:54 PM
JimmyDanger, for reference, the Gamecube's first-party component cable was $29.99 and didn't include the audio cables.
51|RandoM
11-04-2006, 06:53 PM
Component is definitely worth getting, definitely better than composite or s/video. If my display didn't have component input, I'd be buying a new display, not a Wii...
S-video wasn't "always better than composite" as some people are saying. It depends on the quality of the comb filters in your TV. On a tv with the best comb filters, s-video won't look any better than composite. Not really an issue nowadays anyways, but just wanted to point that out. :p
Chameleo
11-04-2006, 07:41 PM
i have a sony TV that has "16:9 enhanced" and can display 480i.
can i use these cables or am i good with the ones that come outta the box?
51|RandoM
11-04-2006, 08:19 PM
i have a sony TV that has "16:9 enhanced" and can display 480i.
can i use these cables or am i good with the ones that come outta the box?
what you said about your tv doesn't help.
it either has component inputs or it doesn't, just look at the back of the tv.
...actually, you might be able to cheat by pressing the input button on the remote and see if any of the sources are labeled component. It won't prove it doesn't have component(could be labeled as something else), but it might prove that it does.
A component input will typically look like 3 RCA jacks, usually color coded with one red, one green, and one blue. On some TVs/Displays the jacks might be BNC instead of RCA(like my plasma).
anakin876
11-04-2006, 08:24 PM
i have a sony TV that has "16:9 enhanced" and can display 480i.
can i use these cables or am i good with the ones that come outta the box?
what model is the sony? From the sound of it I would guess these component cables would make a noticeable difference in your viewing experience
archon
11-04-2006, 08:38 PM
To be honest, I don't even know the purpose of buying component cables for Wii or playing it on an HDTV.
Dude, F-Zero, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime (1 and 2) all were hotsex in 480p. The Wii games will be even better. It is a must if you can afford it.
Chameleo
11-04-2006, 10:56 PM
what model is the sony? From the sound of it I would guess these component cables would make a noticeable difference in your viewing experience
its an FD trinitron Wega.... KV-27FS100L
.... on the back there are a bunch of "lines"... labelled 1 to 4. Three of them have only 3 inputs, but one has 5. i'm assuming this is the component input....
but what i'm concerned about is, if my picture will be letterboxed because i cannot display 480p, only 480i.....
MaiXu
11-04-2006, 11:05 PM
its an FD trinitron Wega.... KV-27FS100L
.... on the back there are a bunch of "lines"... labelled 1 to 4. Three of them have only 3 inputs, but one has 5. i'm assuming this is the component input....
but what i'm concerned about is, if my picture will be letterboxed because i cannot display 480p, only 480i.....
Well, if you're TV is 16:9, you *want* the letterbox. It'll allow you to see more of the game, to take advantage of your rectangular TV.
But no, switching to the higher resolution (even if that resolution is only the best possible 480i you can get, which isn't even technically HD) will *not* change your display. That would be something you'd have to toggle either on your TV or within the system itself. If you have those component inputs, I highly recommend you buy the cables. The high-quality 480i is a huge improvement over the cables that come "out of the box."
[VSK]BadCRC
11-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Can I just say this...
I don't own an HDTV, I own a shitty 32 inch SDTV, note even EDTV. So no component inputs, no S-Video, nothing fancy in the least. But people swear up and down to these differences in 480i and 480p, but seriously, how much of a difference are we talking about?
No, stop talking about this - give me some screenshots or real images of how different these two display modes, progressive vs. interlaced really are. I'm tired of people swearing by this but not showing me the real difference.... It's irritating.
Chameleo
11-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Well, if you're TV is 16:9, you *want* the letterbox. It'll allow you to see more of the game, to take advantage of your rectangular TV.
But no, switching to the higher resolution (even if that resolution is only the best possible 480i you can get, which isn't even technically HD) will *not* change your display. That would be something you'd have to toggle either on your TV or within the system itself. If you have those component inputs, I highly recommend you buy the cables. The high-quality 480i is a huge improvement over the cables that come "out of the box."
i have a 16:9 mode which puts the image into a letterbox.. but its like 1/2 the screen size... it sucks!!!!
i want 16:9 with just a bit of black, in 480i..... i think that will be using my TV to its maximum capabilities... but i dont wanna waste my money on the component cables if they dont work or make any difference.
BadCRC']Can I just say this...
I don't own an HDTV, I own a shitty 32 inch SDTV, note even EDTV. So no component inputs, no S-Video, nothing fancy in the least. But people swear up and down to these differences in 480i and 480p, but seriously, how much of a difference are we talking about?
No, stop talking about this - give me some screenshots or real images of how different these two display modes, progressive vs. interlaced really are. I'm tired of people swearing by this but not showing me the real difference.... It's irritating.
Dude, I'll just tell you like it is. There's really not much of a difference unless you're gonna play games in 720p and 1080i.
The difference between 480i to 1080i is like black and white to color.
mkelehan
11-05-2006, 12:07 AM
BadCRC']No, stop talking about this - give me some screenshots or real images of how different these two display modes, progressive vs. interlaced really are. I'm tired of people swearing by this but not showing me the real difference.... It's irritating.
You're asking the impossible. The difference is all in how it shows you the motion from one image to another, so a static screenshot wouldn't tell you a thing.
Hemalin
11-05-2006, 12:11 AM
You're asking the impossible. The difference is all in how it shows you the motion from one image to another, so a static screenshot wouldn't tell you a thing.
So a video then?
MaiXu
11-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Dude, I'll just tell you like it is. There's really not much of a difference unless you're gonna play games in 720p and 1080i.
The difference between 480i to 1080i is like black and white to color.
Not even! As I said, I had a standard-def TV, and using the component hookups for the best possible 480i image really makes a difference, even over other 480i images. The leap to true HD, a progressive signal like 720p, is well worth the price, but I would argue that even on a normal, non-HD television, the increased quality of component 480i is worth it.
bapenguin
11-05-2006, 07:04 AM
480p = Enhanced Definition TV not HDTV
vladthedog
11-05-2006, 06:48 PM
has anyone heard any word on vga cables? i don't even own a tv, just a 21" monitor i use for my 360 (and has a 2nd input on the monitor so wouldn't even need to get a switch). i eventually want to GET a real tv, but i don't wanna waste the money on something cheap/small... ;)
blackzc
11-05-2006, 09:19 PM
Dude, I'll just tell you like it is. There's really not much of a difference unless you're gonna play games in 720p and 1080i.
I knida disagree. 480p gives you lots of depth.
But yeah DOA4 at 720 is bananas. :D
KingGorilla
11-05-2006, 09:46 PM
I think it is more like melons.
TheFlyingOrc
11-06-2006, 08:21 AM
Dude, I'll just tell you like it is. There's really not much of a difference unless you're gonna play games in 720p and 1080i.
The difference between 480i to 1080i is like black and white to color.
I'm not really interested in anything for my games unless it ends in a p - I care a lot more about doubling the frame rate than I do upping the resolution. I prefer 720p to 1080i like a sensible human being.
However, I use 1080i for movies from my upconverter. It's nice sexy-time.
TheFlyingOrc
11-06-2006, 08:22 AM
Oh, and 480i to 480p is quite significant. Makes everything on screen look smoother.
Venkman
11-06-2006, 08:33 AM
Will the Wii cable work with the gamecube/N64/SNES?
anakin876
11-06-2006, 09:26 AM
Will the Wii cable work with the gamecube/N64/SNES?
I've read that the Wii component cable will not be backwards compatible with the GC - but I don't know if they are still using the same connector for the A/V cable as they did with the GC/N64/SNES.
If they do use the same connector for the A/V cable then those of us with an S-Video cable will be able to keep using the same cable....which would be nice for me.
Venkman
11-06-2006, 12:25 PM
Actually, I guess the componant video cables for the GC used the special digital out, so while the Wii cables MIGHT work for the GC, they won't work for any other systems that don't have that digital out.
Hemalin
11-06-2006, 12:45 PM
Oh, and 480i to 480p is quite significant. Makes everything on screen look smoother.
So a video then?
anakin876
11-07-2006, 07:09 AM
So a video then?
I've never seen comparison videos like that on the internet - most people tend to say that it can't be done effectively. Once you pass everything through a camcorder or something to try and make your comparison videos, then push it back through another monitor (of unknown specs) the differences are destroyed. I thought I had found some pics for you - but the page won't load.
You could test it yourself - at least as far as S-Video - with a 10-15 dollar cable made by pelican (or whoever) so you can at least see the picture difference that's possible. Component should be another, smaller step up from the S-Video. A friend of mine bought a panasonic Tau TV a few years back (it was between 100-200 dollars for a 23 inch I believe) and we were blown away just by the difference the new TV made. Then we hooked up the S-Video cable - and our minds were boggled. Mario Kart was a new and much better looking game. It made a huge difference.
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