List of Confirmed Wii Virtual Console Titles

[EternalGamer]

IGN (http://wii.ign.com) has posted a list (http://wii.ign.com/articles/742/742962p1.html) of Virtual Console titles which they claim have been confirmed to be available by the end of the year. The complete list is as follows:

NES

Mario Bros, The Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Ice Hockey, Pinball, Soccer, Tennis, Urban Champion, Wario's Woods, Baseball, and Solomon's Key

Super NES

F-Zero and SimCity

Nintendo 64

Super Mario 64

SEGA Genesis

Sonic the Hedgehog, Altered Beast, Golden Axe, Columns, Ecco the Dolphin, Gunstar Heroes, Space Harrier II, Toe Jam & Earl, and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

TurboGrafx-16

Bonk's Adventure, Super Star Soldier, Victory Run, Bomberman '93, and Dungeon Explorer

Looks like a fantastic start for the Genesis and TG-16 releases, but Nintendo's offerings seem a bit weak. Also, where is the game that started it all, Super Mario Bros?!

[miah]

How about 'Nintendo Golf' I logged so many hours on that game.. My uncle and I mastered the game after playing it nonstop for a couple weeks over the summer. We could beat the course under par almost every time.

[Sandman]

Nintendo is going to get alot of my money if they keep releasing quality titles like these....I can already see spending around $50 on these games.

[JazGalaxy]

Frustrating Omissions:

Pilotwings
WaveRace

[JimmyDanger]

Well color me unimpressed - so far....

Not that it's a BAD list - just so many better games they could have brought out ...

Particularly feeling the lack of Devil's Crash and Herzog Zwei from Genesis
Alien Crush from TG16 -

and too many games to mention for NES/SNES/N64....

[Kefkataran]

Bonk's Adventure = less please. Nice list, and I look forward to seeing it expand quickly.

[Sandman]

If Nintendo puts the N64 wrestling games on there I'll probably have to change my pants.

[Camel]

If Nintendo puts the N64 wrestling games on there I'll probably have to change my pants.
No Mercy? Great game. :D

[mkelehan]

Folks, of COURSE it's unimpressive. They need to release games over the 5 or 6 year life cycle of the console. They're saving SMB and SMW for a rainy day, right along with Ocarina of Time.

My question, though, is why the NES Wario's Woods? It's a great puzzle game, but the SNES version is just better, and there's really no reason to have it when the SNES version could go up with the exact same amount of effort on Nintendo's part.

[Sandman]

No Mercy? Great game. :D

I'd even settle for Wrestlemania 2000 or WCW vs NWO. Both were good titles and me and my friends logged countless hours in each.

[Opty]

Hey guys, Nintendo needs to blow their load and bring out all of their good games at launch so when there's lulls they have no ammunition to fill the gaps! What are they thinking not putting our favoritest games on there right away!

[EternalGamer]

What strikes me is how the Genesis and TG16 obviously have some of their biggest hitters with gamers in this lineup: Gunstar Heroes, Golden Axe, Bonk, Bomberman etc. But Nintendo's 1st party titles are pretty weak outside of Mario 64 and the original Zelda. Perhaps Nintendo is saving their big hitters for slow release months, or maybe they are actually trying to give other companies a shot at getting some business before they throw down their big hitters.

But what in the world is up with no Super Mario Bros is beyond me. Without question that should have been the first title up there, especially if Nintendo is trying to reach the casual market--it's probably their most iconic game. But there is always the wishful thinking that the reason it isn't on the list is because it comes preinstalled on every Wii. :)

[Heretic Machine]

I'm not really interested in paying for retro titles, with very few exceptions. I got sick of that real quick when that was all we were getting on XBLA. I'm sorry, but this is the internet, I can play any of those games for free. Give me original content.

[Kefkataran]

Uh, Perigon? You choose *now* to bitch about this? We've known for months that the big draw of Nintendo's online thing was NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, and N64 titles for download. They've mentioned doing original stuff too, but I don't think most people interested in a Wii are concerned about that right now. I just don't see the logic in posting bitching about that decision this late in the game.

[Rook34]

They do seem a bit precey for what they are. If they were more like a buck each for 8 bit, 5 for 16 bit it would be better. I wouldn'r mond playing Gunstar, TJ&E, and Bonk again, though I already own 2 of them. Gunstar is a bitch to find...

[Heretic Machine]

Uh, Perigon? You choose *now* to bitch about this?

I've brought it up several times before. But I mean, it isn't as if anything I say will change what Nintendo does. From an armchair CEO perspective, I think they need to offer original content to have a product worth bragging about.

[Kagger]

Frustrating Omissions:

Pilotwings
WaveRace


Amen to Pilot wings, luckly I have a copy and they are cheap to come by.

Nintendo needs to capitalize on things like Earthbound and Mario RPG, games that are really rare and that people CRAVE.

Could you imagine if somehow Panzar Dragoon Saga got released on the VC through Sega?



Perigon, what about people who don't want to run roms? I am excited about being able to play Mario RPG (when I did play it on a rom...the controls were bleh using a keyboard)

[Camel]

The subject was brought up, so I think now is a great time to bitch. It's not like Perigon started a thread about it.

As much as I love the idea of the VC, I think I need to be smart and just realize that I can play most of these games for free.

EDIT: There are certain games I might buy just for the hell of it though....Super Dodge Ball? Yes please! Some 64 games like No Mercy and Mario Tennis and maybe even Pokemon Stadium (for some delicous Clefairy Says action) would definitely be worth snagging as well.

[Sandman]

Amen to Pilot wings, luckly I have a copy and they are cheap to come by.

Nintendo needs to capitalize on things like Earthbound and Mario RPG, games that are really rare and that people CRAVE.

Could you imagine if somehow Panzar Dragoon Saga got released on the VC through Sega?

Still wouldn't be the same as having the original boxed copy. Kind of like when Valkyrie Profile came to PSP....good port sure, crappy system.

[RMan]

Perhaps Nintendo is saving their big hitters for slow release months, or maybe they are actually trying to give other companies a shot at getting some business before they throw down their big hitters.
Well, they're also going to have less control over other companies releases, at least not without ruffling some feathers. It still seems a decent start. Honestly, I wouldn't release too many of heavy hitters right off, don't really want people walking away from their launch purchases deciding to not buy a launch title because they know they can get SMB and reminisce.

[Heretic Machine]

Amen to Pilot wings, luckly I have a copy and they are cheap to come by.

Nintendo needs to capitalize on things like Earthbound and Mario RPG, games that are really rare and that people CRAVE.

Could you imagine if somehow Panzar Dragoon Saga got released on the VC through Sega?



Perigon, what about people who don't want to run roms? I am excited about being able to play Mario RPG (when I did play it on a rom...the controls were bleh using a keyboard)

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any retro titles up, obviously there is a market for them. But a lot of the stuff on their launch list seems like filler, and there is absolutely no original content, and none has been announced to be in the pipes. To me, that sounds like a pretty weak setup when both of your competing platforms are going to be offering things like fLow and Roboblitz.

[Kefkataran]

The subject was brought up, so I think now is a great time to bitch. It's not like Perigon started a thread about it.

But it seems like such a weird time to bitch about it. That's not going to change at this point, so either talk about the games or move on, I'd say. *shrug*


I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any retro titles up, obviously there is a market for them. But a lot of the stuff on their launch list seems like filler, and there is absolutely no original content, and none has been announced to be in the pipes. To me, that sounds like a pretty weak setup when both of your competing platforms are going to be offering things like fLow and Roboblitz.

Again, as far as we know, Nintendo's only going to focus on retro with the Wii downloadable games for the forseeable feature. They've only just barely mentioned doing original content, so I'm not holding my breath to see it any time soon.

[Grimmjow]

Pilot wings or even Donkey Kong Country for SNES, these games are running pretty expensive once they start adding up

[RMan]

Nintendo needs to capitalize on things like Earthbound and Mario RPG, games that are really rare and that people CRAVE.
Agreed, and I think they will, but now is not the time IMO. They need enough games to get people connected and get hooked up with the marketplace, that’s all they really need right now. Beyond that, most titles that the players haven’t heard about, like those old gems, will get lost in the shuffle of the launch. Heck, there’s a good chance that they’ll have a profiling system that can eventually offer product recommendations, so I think there are some good reasons to release the better games post launch.

[EternalGamer]

The cool thing about these retro titles is the convenience. Sure, I can get these on emulators. But taking my computer (even if I have a laptop) over to a friend's house, hooking it up to his TV, trying to scrounge up some decent controllers, and configuring them properly for each game takes quite a bit of work. I know because I did just that when I got my new laptop and setting it all up when we got there took way too long, almost as long as playing the actual games.

With the Wii, there is no need to configure anything, or hunt down decent controllers. You turn on the Wii and they are there to play with the same controllers you play everything else with, on your big screen TV with surround sound. Most people don't have multimedia PC's hooked up to their TVs, so for those that don't, this convenience factor is huge. I already have pretty much any game they'd throw on Virtual console from these systems but there are still definitely games I'll buy to play with friends. Gunstar Heroes is probably one of them. And when Majora's Mask pop's up, that will probably be another because I never got a chance to play it on the N64 and I want to do it right on a TV with a proper controller.

[Royal Fool]

Why isn't there Toejam & Earl 2? It's a much superior (if not different) sequel. I want it. :(

[Kagger]

Pilot wings or even Donkey Kong Country for SNES, these games are running pretty expensive once they start adding up

Really? I picked up pilot wings for about 7 bucks with shipping off ebay, and I own 2 copies of DKC. My siblings own one from when we got our SNES, then I got one when Student Council had a SNES Deck and a copy of DK sitting around. Guess I took that for granted

[Heretic Machine]

The cool thing about these retro titles is the convenience. Sure, I can get these on emulators. But taking my computer (even if I have a laptop) over to a friend's house, hooking it up to his TV, trying to scrounge up some decent controllers, and configuring them properly for each game takes quite a bit of work. I know because I did just that when I got my new laptop and setting it all up when we got there took way too long, almost as long as playing the actual games.

With the Wii, there is no need to configure anything, or hunt down decent controllers. You turn on the Wii and they are there to play with the same controllers you play everything else with, on your big screen TV with surround sound. Most people don't have multimedia PC's hooked up to their TVs, so for those that don't, this convenience factor is huge. I already have pretty much any game they'd throw on Virtual console from these systems but there are still definitely games I'll buy to play with friends. Gunstar Heroes is probably one of them. And when Majora's Mask pop's up, that will probably be another because I never got a chance to play it on the N64 and I want to do it right on a TV with a proper controller.

But here is what you're talking about, for conveniance: Purchasing a Wii, bringing that to your friend's house, hooking it up to a broadband connection, and using two controllers that are going to cost way about twice as much a two PC controllers would cost you.

Again, I'm not saying there is no market for this. But it certainly isn't my deal. Maybe if they could figure out a way to work online play into some of the games... I could go for some Super Double Dragon online.

[92miata]

off topic. how the hell do you save games and downloads to the wii????? no hd so it must use memory cards? are they proprietary or can you just buy them down at costco? thanks for answering a probably stupid question.....:)

[Heretic Machine]

off topic. how the hell do you save games and downloads to the wii????? no hd so it must use memory cards? are they proprietary or can you just buy them down at costco? thanks for answering a probably stupid question.....:)

500mb of built-in flash memory, and support for flash cards.

[EternalGamer]

Perigon you don't have to download them at your friend's house, though doing so is certainly a hell of a lot easier than searching for emulators and ROMs. You just have it on your system and you are enjoying some Wii Monkey Ball or whatever, you just flip over to your Virtual Console games and play some Double Dragon. The convenience is not even comparable, especially in terms of the ability to enjoy them with others. Single player games are ok on your PC monitor, but both trying to play with more than one person and going to the trouble to hook it up to a TV are big pains in the ass. And I have went through a lot of PC controllers and never really found any I liked, until I bought USB adapters that allowed me to plug console controllers into them.

[JazGalaxy]

I just would have thought they'd handle it somewhat chonologically. That is to say The Legend of Zelda and super mario brothers now, Pilotwings and Fzero now, Waverace and SM64 now... then things like Super Mario Bros. 3, Donkey Kong Country and Ocarina of Time later. Much the time they relatively hit in hte life of their respective consoles.

That would keep games from getting overshadowed.

I hope they feature old games that people missed out on. I mean... Blast Corps? That game was so unique and uniquely awesome that if it doesn't get serious love this time around I'm going to be upset.

[31 Flavas]

Awww.... No Keith Courage in Alpha Zones for the TG16 VC?

[Atepsflame]

SimCity? SimCity? Come on, weaksauce, weaksauce!

[EternalGamer]

Keith Courage was one of those damn games that ate up weekends when I was young. Everytime I would swear I was going to see it through to the very end this time but I'd end up quiting five hours later on a tough boos. I still remember those damn Gun guys and the frankenstein boss. In actuality it is probably a pretty terrible game, but I have alot of fond memories of it.

The real classic TG16 games are Legendary Axe, Splatter House, Alien & Devil's Crush, Blazing Lasers, and SommerAssault.

[Heretic Machine]

SimCity? SimCity? Come on, weaksauce, weaksauce!

Whatever, that is actually my favorite version of Sim City. I played it a couple of days ago.

[CrysDark]

I wonder how these are loaded onto the machine? Is virtual console done by original hardware (like sony) or emulators.

Would be awsome if they were just standard .roms, you could load up your personal collection and go-to-town. I know I would.

[Wraith]

Kinda surprised to see SimCity SNES on there. I bought that game used back in the SNES days and really enjoyed it. But I guess I never figured it as having enough of a draw to make it into the Virtual Console lineup. I wonder if I should give it a try on Wii (assuming I get one), or just try and locate the SNES and get it hooked it up again.

[MajSheppard]

Problem for me is, well I already have most of the games on the list. I will not buy them again when all of my systems are hooked up and ready to go. The genesis games however will be nice as my genesis is shot. And the other non-nintendo systems will be fun to play with.

I believe all the games that people will want will be released as long as their developers want them to be. So dont worry folks.

[Atepsflame]

Whatever, that is actually my favorite version of Sim City. I played it a couple of days ago.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the SimCity. On the PC.

[Kefkataran]

Again, I'm not saying there is no market for this. But it certainly isn't my deal. Maybe if they could figure out a way to work online play into some of the games... I could go for some Super Double Dragon online.

I do agree on this. I'd really love to see some of these titles get minor enhancements, be it online play where applicable or even a 360-style achievement system so you can show off to your friends. Alas, probably not happening. :(

[Intruder]

I just want my Excitebike. If they bring that i will be in heaven, ohhh yea and NHL 94

[Heretic Machine]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the SimCity. On the PC.

I really prefer it on the SNES. I mean, it isn't like I'm not a PC gamer, I am. But the graphics and music of the SNES version were just... better. It gave the game a lot of character an atmosphere. The GUI was also better. The lack of a mouse is really the only downer, and I honestly don't mind it at all.

[Kagger]

I just want my Excitebike. If they bring that i will be in heaven, ohhh yea and NHL 94

NHL 94 for the SNES is one of the best sports games ever!


I was reading reviews for some of the new hockey games, and found it hilarious that one-timers are still one of the only ways to score...though I always preferred the wrap around

[TrackZero]

Well color me unimpressed - so far....

Not that it's a BAD list - just so many better games they could have brought out ...

Particularly feeling the lack of Devil's Crash and Herzog Zwei from Genesis
Alien Crush from TG16 -

and too many games to mention for NES/SNES/N64....

Agreed. I mean, Solomon's Key? Who gives a fuck?

[Savok]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the SimCity. On the PC.
Kicked ass on the SNES as well, back in the day.

Perigon, I think you're missing the big picture here. Roms are illegal, the VC isn't.

They could add online to some of the classic multiplayer games though.

[jonat3]

But here is what you're talking about, for conveniance: Purchasing a Wii, bringing that to your friend's house, hooking it up to a broadband connection, and using two controllers that are going to cost way about twice as much a two PC controllers would cost you.

Again, I'm not saying there is no market for this. But it certainly isn't my deal. Maybe if they could figure out a way to work online play into some of the games... I could go for some Super Double Dragon online.

Why would he need to go online at his friend's house? He only wants to play VC games at his friend, he can easily download those VC games at home. There's no need to set up broadband at his friend.
And as far as i know, the shell controllers (or GC controllers) don't cost that much compared to PC controllers. It's the wiimote that is expensive, but those aren't used for VC games.

[thecrazyd]

The subject was brought up, so I think now is a great time to bitch. It's not like Perigon started a thread about it.

As much as I love the idea of the VC, I think I need to be smart and just realize that I can play most of these games for free.
Here is a shocker: You can illegally download most other games for free as well!

[Chameleo]

in one of the initial Wii videos, someone was moving the controller, and the sound coming from the TV (you couldn't see the action) matched Super Mario Bros.

I think they're going to make some of their big hitters wii-mote compatible, and that takes time/work to accomplish.

[sixtyfps]

Would be awsome if they were just standard .roms, you could load up your personal collection and go-to-town. I know I would.

Buddy, you are optimistic to a fault.

[Evil Avnovice]

It's nice that they have a good number of titles for the Virtual Console's launch window, but my personal problem is that I have most of these games in a number of GC and GBA titles, so I can't see myself paying for these again.

No Super Mario RPG? No Yoshi's Island? A Link to the Past? Tetris Attack? :(

Having tried a few Genesis roms on my PSP emulator, some of the games listed are worthwhile, others didn't hold up too well. I'd like to see Elemental Master and Saint Sword on there someday.

[sixtyfps]

in one of the initial Wii videos, isomeone was moving the controller, and the sound coming from the TV (you couldn't see the action) matched Super Mario Bros.

I think they're going to make some of their big hitters wii-mote compatible, and that takes time/work to accomplish.

While we're on the tangent of optimism: I'm hoping for this and network play ... and a corresponding price tag that won't piss me off.

You kids all know that the prices they quoted were "starting" prices, riiiiiiight?

[bjornbarspingvinen]

The Genesis and Turbografx games are awesome, I might buy a Wii for that :D

[Savok]

It's nice that they have a good number of titles for the Virtual Console's launch window, but my personal problem is that I have most of these games in a number of GC and GBA titles, so I can't see myself paying for these again.

No Super Mario RPG? No Yoshi's Island? A Link to the Past? Tetris Attack? :(

Having tried a few Genesis roms on my PSP emulator, some of the games listed are worthwhile, others didn't hold up too well. I'd like to see Elemental Master and Saint Sword on there someday.
As a PAL gamer I really want Super Mario RPG, among other things that weren't released here.

Sadly Nintendo can't blow their load in one shot. Besides, with Wii launch numbers meaning the console will actually be able to be purchased by most people, the VC servers are gonna be clogged enough as it is.

[sixtyfps]

...as a follow-up to my last (posted) thought, Chamelonid, the Classic Controller does not have any motion sensing built into it, so! in theory, this means that either:

A) Only NES games will be Wii Remote-enhanced, or
B) The notches on the back of the Classic Controller will accept a mount for the Wii Remote.

[Chameleo]

...as a follow-up to my last (posted) thought, Chamelonid, the Classic Controller does not have any motion sensing built into it, so! in theory, this means that either:

A) Only NES games will be Wii Remote-enhanced, or
B) The notches on the back of the Classic Controller will accept a mount for the Wii Remote.

i think the video i saw only showed the woman using the wii-mote. the classic controller hadn't been revealed yet.... the woman was pointing to the right of the screen, and tipping the front up - everytime she tipped it up, we heard a "bling" (coin sound) coming from the screen.

some online multiplayer ala "mario vs. luigi" would be great - with motion sensing. even split screen single console. Nintendo can really go places with this if they put some effort into it.

i read that 4 page R&D article on the official Wii site; and they said they started developing Wii immediately after the Gamecube launch..... i think thats a bad idea because it diverts attention from the main console - right at launch. the company should focus on wii support instead of developing a new machine.... MS is already working on the next xbox....

[Spigot]

As soon as they bring Alien Crush and Blazing Lazers to the Virtual Console, I'm there. Those two games would almost warrant the purchase of a Wii for me. Heck, just bring Blazing Lazers. Best shmup ever (at least until the various Treasure games came along).

[Savok]

i read that 4 page R&D article on the official Wii site; and they said they started developing Wii immediately after the Gamecube launch..... i think thats a bad idea because it diverts attention from the main console - right at launch. the company should focus on wii support instead of developing a new machine.... MS is already working on the next xbox....
The folk who design the machines aren't the same folk supporting it. They can't just bring in the hookers for a 6 month orgy.

[Chameleo]

The folk who design the machines aren't the same folk supporting it. They can't just bring in the hookers for a 6 month orgy.

yeeeaaah i guess. but the company IS diverting attention from their main event to the next one..

i think they should take a year or 2year break before they begin really making the new console... i mean they can think about it and toss ideas around, but actually devote a team to it?! ... meh.

[Nessus]

Folks, of COURSE it's unimpressive. They need to release games over the 5 or 6 year life cycle of the console. They're saving SMB and SMW for a rainy day, right along with Ocarina of Time.

My question, though, is why the NES Wario's Woods? It's a great puzzle game, but the SNES version is just better, and there's really no reason to have it when the SNES version could go up with the exact same amount of effort on Nintendo's part.

My thoughts exactly. SNES Wario's Woods rules, but it's so hard to teach other people how to play so you can play against someone.

[Huricos]

Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger!

I neeeeed Chrono Trigger.

[Spigot]

Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger!

I neeeeed Chrono Trigger.
I've already got it for my SNES (and in ROM form, and the crappy PS1 port) but if they did a great job of emulating it, it would be pretty sweet to have on the Virtual Console. I'm curious about what Square will do, VC-wise.

[Savok]

yeeeaaah i guess. but the company IS diverting attention from their main event to the next one..

i think they should take a year or 2year break before they begin really making the new console... i mean they can think about it and toss ideas around, but actually devote a team to it?! ... meh.
As I said, the bits that are diverting the attention never had attention what's actually out anyway. They design the hardware, make the prototype all that shit. Once it's out they move onto the next thing (unless the thing catches fire or something) they're done until the technology becomes available to revise it, make it cheaper, make the layout better (fix the power supply like with the Xbox). All things out of their control, just a matter of watching the technology, in the mean time they can start throwing around ideas for the next console.

A whole team is there because that's their job, designing hardware, that's what they're trained for. If they aren't working on hardware, they're not doing anything, and that's just a waste of money.

[mightbe]

Mmmm. NES Pinball and Gunstar Heroes. That's awesome.

[Kefkataran]

yeeeaaah i guess. but the company IS diverting attention from their main event to the next one..

i think they should take a year or 2year break before they begin really making the new console... i mean they can think about it and toss ideas around, but actually devote a team to it?! ... meh.

Like Savok's explaining, these guys have whole teams who focus only on developing new hardware. They have very little reason to sit around doing nothing after a new console launch, so it's only sensible that they'd start them to work on the next one right away. If nothing else, that's good for us because we know the console gets PLENTY of development time to make sure it's good enough. I'm sure Nintendo, Sony, and even Microsoft have been doing this since their first entries into the console world.

[StoneGut]

So far so good.

[TKO]

Okay, I can see how the virtual console isn't for everyone, but I think it's obvious this is going to appeal to a lot of people. ..For a start, the TV's usually more of a social area in most peoples houses. This makes it far easier to rope in a second player for whatever cool retro title ya wanna throw down.

Also, I think y'all are technically capable people here, and really underestimate the effort that goes into setting up a decent emulation machine. What's a good emulator for platform x? Where are the roms? How the feck to we get a decent controller plugged in now? What, I have to use the keyboard? (A modded XBox is a whole other level of geekery required to get up and running.)

I've got just about every emulator worth having on my PC. I've also got an X-Arcade joystick setup to work in most of them. Y'know what? Other than the first month or two of retrogaming fun, they get bugger all use now. I'm getting a Wii, and will certainly be buying a few Virtual Console titles. I rekon there will be far more social gaming going on on that beast in this house than on the PC.

[CapnBob]

Ice Hockey! That makes me happy. I lost that game years ago, I can't wait to play it again.

[muddi900]

off-topic:

Does the wii support SDHC mem cards. They go upto 8GB

[Bydo_Empire]

I'm mostly interested in the TG titles, but I think this is a great start. How many games can you play at once? They also want to give lesser-known titles a chance. If they put out Super Mario World, SMB3, Super Metroid, etc everyone would buy those.

[bapenguin]

Here is a shocker: You can illegally download most other games for free as well!

This just in, pirating software (http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/10/pirated-software.html) can save you millions!

[Royal Fool]

This just in, pirating software (http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/10/pirated-software.html) can save you millions!
Beijing, China – A recent study by the Pirated Software Association (PSA) showed that businesses could spend less money using pirated proprietary software than software they bought.
Best study ever.

[Jenga]

Um...the Wii is aiming for casual gamers. I doubt the casual gaming audience has any idea what emulation is.

[Rook34]

Here's hoping Cadash makes it on from the TG 16 also.

[Chris_D]

The Genesis list is pretty sweet (TJ&E is awesome coop fun), but there are still plenty of Genesis heavy hitters to come. Streets of Rage, Phantasy Star for starters. Definitely a good idea for the wii to space out the virtual console titles, but inevitable frustration for fans of certain titles!

[Spigot]

Best study ever.
The sad thing is that people were actually paid to come up with that answer to the study. Yeesh. I want a job where I can just point out the blatantly obvious and get paid obscene amounts of money for it.

[MacD]

The only retro game I need is street fighter 2, snes style (with the turbo code).

Or I could just score a snes with tens of games for $40 off'f ebay :P

[Virtual Machine]

I want Ninja Spirit and Bloody Wolf!

[Nighthold]

What the hell is up with the lack of SNES love?!?! Arguably the best console in the big N's history, and they release two games for the VC launch, one of which is a port of a PC title?!?!

Jesus fucking christ Nintendo. Get with the program.

[Rook34]

I want Ninja Spirit and Bloody Wolf!

I played Ninja Spirit recently, about 2 months ago. That game is pretty hard! I used to be able to go through the whole game as a kid and not die once... What the hell happened to me?!

[Ultima Thulian]

Decent start, but Urban Champion? They just should've left that one dead.

[Spigot]

Check out the Virtual Console list for Japan. (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11382) Grumble grumble...

[51|RandoM]

Awww.... No Keith Courage in Alpha Zones for the TG16 VC?

You have to be kidding. that was a release title and it sucked. What a waste of a hucard.

[Ultima Thulian]

Check out the Virtual Console list for Japan. (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11382) Grumble grumble...

Grumble Grumble indeed! Why do they get Gradius and Contra III and we get Urban Champion and Solomon's something? :mad:

[Spigot]

You have to be kidding. that was a release title and it sucked. What a waste of a hucard.
HEY!

Keith Courage had some really cool looking armour and a big sword. Leave him alone.

[Ultima Thulian]

Dude, even I haven't heard of the game, it must suck! I mean, "Keith Courage"? Lame!

[EternalGamer]

HEY!

Keith Courage had some really cool looking armour and a big sword. Leave him alone.


And that sword grew and became HUGE. By the time you were four to five hours in (you had to start over every time) your Sword would go half way across the screen. Good times. :)

[dr_wily]

hah lame..

all they need to do is drag n drop their entire archive to a folder for dling.

nintendo just loves to tease and release at a trickle..

now if kart 64 were there with online play id have to buy launch day.

[MacD]

Check out the Virtual Console list for Japan. (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11382) Grumble grumble...

And I third the grumble! Contra, SMW, SF2, Zelda...wtf is so special about the japanese that they get these titles? Localisation has been done years ago, so thats no reason to screw us :(

[Coridan]

I really hope Nintendo is able to release most of it's greatest hits. It would be a shame if all these "new players" didn't get a chance to see the meat and potatoes of their library.

[Spigot]

Dude, even I haven't heard of the game, it must suck! I mean, "Keith Courage"? Lame!
Disregarding the last part of your comment, this struck me as funny. I've had this happen with recent game releases where it's almost like, if I haven't heard of it at least once in the lead up to release, is there any possibility of it being any good? I'm not saying that every game has to have a cover spread on all the game magazines or front page previews by all the game sites, but the games that just appear as if from the ether with absolutely no fanfare always worry me.

[rubek]

I want Doctor Mario... that music was so mesmerizing.

[Spigot]

I want Doctor Mario... that music was so mesmerizing.
Just play the original Warioware. It's in there.

[rubek]

Oooh, thanks Spigot, I wasn't aware of that!
Such fond memories of spinning pills.

[Spigot]

Oooh, thanks Spigot, I wasn't aware of that!
Such fond memories of spinning pills.
Actually, I think it's called "Dr. Wario" but it's the same game :)

It's about time I put a useful post on here!

[TKO]

So, what titles would you guys really like to see on the virtual console? If you could just pick one or two, what would they be? Mine would be Starfox (SNES), WaveRace (N64) (or maybe Mario Kart 64 .. hmmm, hard to decide.) :)

edit: Hmmm... that Japan list is pretty good. What they should do is just release those in western territories too, and purchasers of those get the english version when/if it's done. (There are probably silly copyright issues that stop this from being easily done.)

[Phades]

Keith Courage was one of those damn games that ate up weekends when I was young. Everytime I would swear I was going to see it through to the very end this time but I'd end up quiting five hours later on a tough boos. I still remember those damn Gun guys and the frankenstein boss. In actuality it is probably a pretty terrible game, but I have alot of fond memories of it.

The real classic TG16 games are Legendary Axe, Splatter House, Alien & Devil's Crush, Blazing Lasers, and SommerAssault.

You shame yourself by leaving off Ninja Spirit, Military Madness, Dungeon Explorer 2, Battle Royale, Cadash, Impossimole (The frozen one?)... I could continue. I loved my TG16 :)

Personally, I really liked Keith Courage. I was disappointed when the sequel they promised at the end credits never materialized.

[Kefkataran]

all they need to do is drag n drop their entire archive to a folder for dling.

nintendo just loves to tease and release at a trickle..

That would be a terrible idea. Releasing them slowly is a business decision as it gives people time to mull over and buy stuff they might not otherwise, whereas if everything is out there they might not buy some stuff due to having to spend money on so much at once. It's the same thing Microsoft does, and it looks like Nintendo's at least going to keep giving us stuff at a faster pace than the big M.

[jonat3]

That would be a terrible idea. Releasing them slowly is a business decision as it gives people time to mull over and buy stuff they might not otherwise, whereas if everything is out there they might not buy some stuff due to having to spend money on so much at once. It's the same thing Microsoft does, and it looks like Nintendo's at least going to keep giving us stuff at a faster pace than the big M.

Yeah, the problem is that people can only think from their own perspective. From a consumer perspective, it would be convenient to have immediate access to all the games, but from a business perspective it would be pretty stupid to do that.

Besides, since i can see both sides, i prefer that they do only a few releases overtime. That way, i can anticipate the games more. If i get all of the games at once, i'll download the ones i want immediately and never play them again after a few days. Also, games that i have never played, i probably won't download.
By releasing only a few at a time, the individual games get more attention than if they were released all at once. There's more chance that way i will download a game i've never played before. Since the games are spread out, i can focus my attention on a select few games for a certain period. Having only a few games to pay attention to is good, since i'm the type who loses attention quickly and never finishes a game. If i have too much games to choose from, my attention will get divided and in essence, so will my enjoyment factor. Having the games spread out, also means that the enjoyment throughout the year is a constant, instead of only enjoying it at the beginning and never pay attention to it ever again.

[Kefkataran]

Yeah, the problem is that people can only think from their own perspective. From a consumer perspective, it would be convenient to have immediate access to all the games, but from a business perspective it would be pretty stupid to do that.

I realize that, but I don't think any consumer who understands the business perspective (which isn't that tough to understand) would expect the company to release everything in one go.