Where is Killzone 2?

[bapenguin]

With less than a month to go till the Playstation 3 launch I have one question to ask; where is Killzone 2?

The controversy that surrounded (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killzone_%28PS3%29) Killzone 2 when it was unveiled at E3 2005 was astronomical. Sony unveiled their PS3 with a killer trailer of the sequel to one of the PS2's most popular titles. Some said it literally took the wind out of Microsoft's XBox 360 sails at the show. Shortly after the show, it was revealed the trailer was pre-rendered, and the back and forths continued as to whether the trailer was using real game assets or even running on the hardware.

Fast forward to today. We are a E3 and 2 Tokyo Game Shows (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/23/tgs-killzone-2-wru/) later and Killzone 2 still hasn't shown itself. For a game that was used to unveil a system, it sure has been quiet. Does Sony not want to bring up the bad memories? Or could we see another surprise unveiling next Spring?

Sony was unavailable for comment.

[soco]

i'm betting that they're super hard at work on it and they're trying their best to get it close to what the videos were, and we might hear about it at around summer 2007 and if they can get it ready in time, they'll try to launch it against Halo 3.

[Gorvi]

More likely than not, they're trying to push Resistance, and figure that if they were to push a game that looks so similiar, they'd cut into Resistance's sales. Of course the fanboy perspective will be that it was all prerendered, nothing is ready, and the game was just vaporware. I'm guessing that second opinion will be the predominant vein of the rest of the replys to this thread.

[TrackZero]

They're definitely continuing work on it, polishing, etc. Sony will probably try to bring it out against Halo 3.

[The Iron Weasel]

I imagine they're waiting for people to forget a little more about that trailer. Also they couple possibly be waiting for something like Halo 3 gameplay footage to be released, or Gears Of War to be launched. So if its really mind-boggelingly better looking then they have a trump card.

[Doctor Setebos]

It was all prerendered, nothing is ready, and the game was just vaporware.

Thanks, Gorvi! :D

[Paranoia]

Given their track record. MEH!!

[KidCactus]

Didn't you know, it was released on the Phantom instead?

[The Iron Weasel]

Given their track record. MEH!!
Killzone was actually a pretty fun game. But I believe they marketed it at the wrong crowd. The game felt more like Call Of Duty or Medal Of Honor then Halo. So when Halo-Killer started getting thrown around the hype picked up and got out of control. I'm looking forward to Killzone 2...or....3....or whatever they want to call it. But Halo-Killer I seriously doubt.

[HumpYourWay]

Where is Killzone 2???????? More like:
Is bapenguin having another bad day?


Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.

[bapenguin]

Is bapenguin having another bad day?


Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.

Umm...my head. It's something I've been curious about lately. The trailer WAS kickass, and its a game I'm looking forward to. I thought I'd dig Resistance, but after seeing it at Digital Life I'm kinda torn.

[The Iron Weasel]

Is bapenguin having another bad day?


Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.
Does there have to be an origin for the post? Who pissed in your fruit loops. Sometimes the mind wanders, and brings you places unexplained. I'm guessing this is probably one of those times. How does asking for opinions on Killzone 2 make one feel better about themselves? Stop being a silly bitch.

[KidCactus]

Killzone was actually a pretty fun game.
I agree. I even think it was great, one of my favorite PS2 games. Liberation for the PSP is not far away now (already leaked onto the net), tried the demo and it seems to be a solid game.

[The Iron Weasel]

I agree. I even think it was great, one of my favorite PS2 games. Libertion for the PSP is not far away now (already leaked onto the net), tried the demo and it seems to be a solid game.
I think the major issue with killzone was the technical constraints they had to deal with. But bad framerate or not, the game was solid fun for 24 bucks. I regret nothing after purchasing it. I'm just hoping killzone 2...3....whatever will have actual AI.

[Borys]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.

Killzone was UTTER SHIT. If I was to recommend a PS2 FPS to someone I would go with SOCOM 3, miles better.

[protocol_image]

Does there have to be an origin for the post? Who pissed in your fruit loops. Sometimes the mind wanders, and brings you places unexplained. I'm guessing this is probably one of those times. How does asking for opinions on Killzone 2 make one feel better about themselves? Stop being a silly bitch.

I think the point is that this isn't news. Why is this on the front page, when it more aptly belongs somewhere else in the forum?

[Thenetcase]

Where is Killzone 2???????? More like:
Is bapenguin having another bad day?


Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.

You sir... Are a...

PS3 FAN BOI FUCKMOOK!!!!

Now piss off and die. There's no reason to badger someone because they actually asked a legit question.
Personally I think that Sony's surprise for us about Killzone2 is that it's been cancelled. heh heh.

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[KidCactus]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.
What kind of shit comment is that? I can't enjoy both Killzone on the PS2 and Half-Life 2 on the PC?

[Gorvi]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.

Killzone was UTTER SHIT. If I was to recommend a PS2 FPS to someone I would go with SOCOM 3, miles better.

How was it shit exactly? I'm actually curious as to why you think so, since I've only played the demo, and was actually thinking of picking it up for cheap as the PSP version is looking to be pretty good.

[Morratut]

It was all prerendered, nothing is ready, and the game was just vaporware.
Very true.

It probably is in production but the game will look nothing like the videos. Sony has shown many times that it is full of shit :D

[The Iron Weasel]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.

Killzone was UTTER SHIT. If I was to recommend a PS2 FPS to someone I would go with SOCOM 3, miles better.
Yeah...okay...that makes TOTAL sense. I've been playing PC Shooters since Doom, and I enjoyed Killzone. It must suck not being so elitist sometimes.

[KidCactus]

How was it shit exactly? I'm actually curious as to why you think so, since I've only played the demo, and was actually thinking of picking it up for cheap as the PSP version is looking to be pretty good.
Killzone Liberation for the PSP is a TOTALLY different kind of game though.

[The Iron Weasel]

I think the point is that this isn't news. Why is this on the front page, when it more aptly belongs somewhere else in the forum?

I agree but shitting all over the guy who put it up really Isn't going to solve anything.

[Venkman]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.

Killzone was UTTER SHIT. If I was to recommend a PS2 FPS to someone I would go with SOCOM 3, miles better.

Killzone was one of the few 1st person shooters to have solid art direction and convey a real sense of a war torn planet. The intro level with the trenches was amazing from an art stand point.

I am an Xbox guy all the way, but if Halo 2 made the Earth levels look half as battle worn as Killzone it would have been a much more successful game.

Of course, you can always stick with Socom for your 300 polys per character fix, and blocky looking plants.

[protocol_image]

You sir... Are a...

PS3 FAN BOI FUCKMOOK!!!!

Now piss off and die. There's no reason to badger someone because they actually asked a legit question.
Personally I think that Sony's surprise for us about Killzone2 is that it's been cancelled. heh heh.

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WOAH! Hey now buddy...try a little ritalin in the morning...it might help...

I find it hilarious that your comment can be turned right back around on you...

"There's no reason to badger someone because they actually asked a legit question." ....Which he did....he asked if this was news worthy...

jesus christ, stop getting so pissed off at people you don't even know....it's called the internet.....people employ freedom of speach on it.....don't let it get your panties all bunched

[Gorvi]

Killzone Liberation for the PSP is a TOTALLY different kind of game though.

Oh, I know, I have the demo. My point was, I played a demo of the original Killzone a few weeks ago, and with my interest growing because of the PSP sequal, I was considering picking up the original. Plus, I'd honestly like to hear why the game was "shit" as I don't think I've ever actually heard a reason other than "It's not teh Halo!1111elventyeleven!!".

[Fuzzwah]

Where is Killzone 2???????? More like:
Is bapenguin having another bad day?

Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.

Its EA. I mean, right there on the logo it says "news.... with attitude". I think this post is squarely in the attitude section. Personally, its these kinds of questions and the discussions in the thread which is why I visit this website. When every other gaming news sites simply post up press releases, its the bit of niggle that keeps me coming back.

And I'm not a fanboi of any company really... I enjoy niggle posts directed at pretty much anyone :)

[Fuzzwah]

WOAH! Hey now buddy...try a little ritalin in the morning...it might help...

I find it hilarious that your comment can be turned right back around on you...

"There's no reason to badger someone because they actually asked a legit question." ....Which he did....he asked if this was news worthy...

jesus christ, stop getting so pissed off at people you don't even know....it's called the internet.....people employ freedom of speach on it.....don't let it get your panties all bunched

So why pick on this guy's freedom to use massive colored text? :)

I fail to see how quoting it, and thus repeating his huge yellow spam helps the situation at all....

[soco]

can someone edit the boards software and disable the usage of text sizes that large? :D

[Plays4Pants]

Where is Killzone 2???????? More like:
Is bapenguin having another bad day?


Where is the news origin of this post? Guess he just needs to pester around a bit in order to feel better about himself? Pathetic.

His question is valid, but at the same time you're absolutely right! The lack of news isn't news. This is my last straw for ea.
My friends at work warned me about how dumb ea is. At first, i thought it was interesting...a site where people bicker about everything that happens in gaming...but alas I have to say i should have heeded my friends' words. bye.

[rein]

Good question BA. I was thinking about that too. I am in the same boat with you about Resistance. (Is that a real expression, same boat?) I was really excited about it at first but as launch gets closer, not as much. I would be all over Killzone 2 but it is starting to look more and more like I will be buying a 3rd party shooter for the PS3 at launch.


((everyone else, if you do not have anything to add to the discussion of Killzone 2, STFU!!))

[protocol_image]

So why pick on this guy's freedom to use massive colored text? :)

I fail to see how quoting it, and thus repeating his huge yellow spam helps the situation at all....

you can call it "picking on" if that makes you feel better....i tried to not make it seem that way, and more of a statement....but i suppose i could have withheld the lecture at the end

i'm just really tired of the short fuses of people on message boards....perhaps i have too much hope for the good nature of people, and in that i am being ignorant

all i ask is that people have a fair debate that doesn't include personal attacks, or hateful commands such as "piss off and die"

perhaps i ask too much....

[Thenetcase]

you can call it "picking on" if that makes you feel better....i tried to not make it seem that way, and more of a statement....but i suppose i could have withheld the lecture at the end

i'm just really tired of the short fuses of people on message boards....perhaps i have too much hope for the good nature of people, and in that i am being ignorant

all i ask is that people have a fair debate that doesn't include personal attacks, or hateful commands such as "piss off and die"

perhaps i ask too much....


My purpose in the response was that I"m sick of biggotted fucktards coming on here and blasting everyone who pisses in the direction of their favorite game or console.
If they don't have anything constructive to say or do, they should just go hang out with people who like them. It's bullshit to come here and be retarded here.

That being said...
The reason why I made it HUGE AND YELLOW was because I Thought that it would help throw a tad bit of humor into the situation as well as get my point across.
Fan boys SUCK!! I think that they are retarded. I own a PC, an Xbox360, and I'l probably be getting a PS3. ALL of them have their strong points and anyone who fails to note that they ALL have their weaknesses is a fan boy fuckmook! That's just how I feel about it, so stop infringing on my civil rights to say whatever I want to say. ;) heh heh heh.
Or.. well.. since this is a private board... I should say, "stop infringing on my ability to push my luck on this board". <cough> Besides, I haven't had my coffee yet.

Oh yeah, last thing I wanted to mention...
Why do you get involved in other people's business?? That 105y/o Chinese dude wouldn't do that... and he's lived a long time. And who are you to judge whether or not I was being allegedly "hateful"? I wasn't being hateful. Maybe, by that logic, 'hateful' is determined by a third-party observer and therefore I can determine that you were being hateful when you responded to me. And ANYONE who disagrees with me is automatically being hateful. That word doens't mean shit anymore. Great. Way to destroy the English language.

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[The Iron Weasel]

<cough> Besides, I haven't had my coffee yet.[/color][/size]

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Sir, how can you post without some sort of caffene in you!?

[EternalGamer]

The video was definitely vaporware. But I also don't doubt they are working on it now, probably to try to release next year around the time of Halo 3.

[KidCactus]

If they don't have anything constructive to say or do, they should just go hang out with people who like them. It's bullshit to come here and be retarded here.
So you're off to see your friends now? :p

[boratika]

A story:

A few weeks ago I was walking past a particular retailer, let's just call them, say, Harvey Norman. In the Adelaide CBD. And in a prominant front window they had a big PS3 display fishing for preorders. They seemed to have missed the fact that sony had delayed the release as they still brandished a November release date, as well as the fact that Sony had told Australian retailers to stop taking preorders. Okay, that's not so bad. However, as to what really nadgered my moolies and left a mighty bitter taste, how were they trying to convince customers? Well a big TV playing a loop of the Killzone 2 video of course.

Feel free to derive your own moral from this story.

[fitbabits]

I was thinking about Killzone 2 round the time of TGS, but I'd forgotten about it since. I'm one of those who think that the first one was a blast, although I much preferred Cold Winter for some reason.

Anyway, K2 is probably still in heavy development and will likely be Sony's answer to Halo 3 - even though the 'Halo-killer' label Sony attributed to Killzone backfired on them.

[Thenetcase]

Sir, how can you post without some sort of caffene in you!?


Apparently I can do so quite "hatefully". :D

I'm going to get coffee now. I promise my next post will include a coffee enduced apology for being an ass and probably some more decent and improved humor. :)

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[The Iron Weasel]

Apparently I can do so quite "hatefully". :D

I'm going to get coffee now. I promise my next post will include a coffee enduced apology for being an ass and probably some more decent and improved humor. :)

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I've learned that tired posting leads to over-reaction, and hate. Caffene makes individuals far more pleasent.

[Thenetcase]

A story:

A few weeks ago I was walking past a particular retailer, let's just call them, say, Harvey Norman. In the Adelaide CBD. And in a prominant front window they had a big PS3 display fishing for preorders. They seemed to have missed the fact that sony had delayed the release as they still brandished a November release date, as well as the fact that Sony had told Australian retailers to stop taking preorders. Okay, that's not so bad. However, as to what really nadgered my moolies and left a mighty bitter taste, how were they trying to convince customers? Well a big TV playing a loop of the Killzone 2 video of course.

Feel free to derive your own moral from this story.

Moral, don't make analogies to Australian stores to a group of American people who are, for practical intents and purposes, ignorant of Australian retailers.

[Thenetcase]

I've learned that tired posting leads to over-reaction, and hate. Caffene makes individuals far more pleasent.

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[bapenguin]

I think the point is that this isn't news. Why is this on the front page, when it more aptly belongs somewhere else in the forum?

It's news because I made it news. It's news because its a valid question. It's news because it generates reader discussion.

[protocol_image]

well, TheNetCase, i will agree with you about all consoles having independent strengths and weeknesses.....i own almost every system because there are awesome games worth playing on them

and in the original intent of this thread, i do agree that killzone2 being a no-show for so long is a HUGE mistake....not to mention the fact that pre-rendered movies always look so much better than the final game....but i will still wait to form an opinion on this game until the day they show it running in real-time

does that make ME a fanboy? because i'm not even planning on getting the ps3 for another year at least....and i've never owned a sony system (save for the psp) within their first year of release

as of right now, if they were to release visuals of the game, and it doesn't hold up to Gears of War, they would be shooting themselves in the foot with a bazooka.......wait, wouldn't that be a rocket jump? ....which is awesome? ah, the paradox!

[IRONGUSTAV]

killzone is psp is very good,the graphics are the best i have seen on that machine

[fitbabits]

killzone is psp is very good,the graphics are the best i have seen on that machine
It's been getting fairly solid reviews across the board. Almost makes me want to get a third PSP, but not quite.

[TrackZero]

His question is valid, but at the same time you're absolutely right! The lack of news isn't news. This is my last straw for ea.
My friends at work warned me about how dumb ea is. At first, i thought it was interesting...a site where people bicker about everything that happens in gaming...but alas I have to say i should have heeded my friends' words. bye.

A lack of news, on a title that proclaimed to have in game footage shown at E3 in 2005 is definitely news. The questions need to be asked by someone, at some point. At the very least, assuming the game has come along fine, it's interesting to speculate on when the game will see the light of day.

But hey, if you're that easily disinterested, so long, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[Kelegacy]

It's news because I made it news. It's news because its a valid question. It's news because it generates reader discussion.
I don't mean this to be snide, or as an attack, but that means the side forums as a whole would be news. A lot of forum fodder generates massive reader discussion, but that stuff isn't front page.

[Jack B]

I've been wondering about that too. It could be in development, but looking so far from the "gameplay" videos of E3 2005, that they won't show it until a while after the PS3 launches. It would be roasted as the poster child for Sony's aggressive "gameplay" FUD from 2005.

It could also be going the way of Duke Nukem, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't show up sometime in 2007.

[Goronmon]

I don't mean this to be snide, or as an attack, but that means the side forums as a whole would be news. A lot of forum fodder generates massive reader discussion, but that stuff isn't front page.I guess thats one of the benefits of helping to run a website, you get to make some of your posts as newsposts. (And I mean that in a good way.)

I mean really, even newsposts are just regular posts that are deemed good enough for display on the front page. Just because this one doesn't have a link to another article, doesn't mean its not worthy to be on the front page.

[Goronmon]

How was it shit exactly? I'm actually curious as to why you think so, since I've only played the demo, and was actually thinking of picking it up for cheap as the PSP version is looking to be pretty good.Its been a while, but I had two main complaints.

1) No AI. Gameplay boiled down to waiting at a certain point for enemies to rush at you as you mowed them down.

2) The weapons seemed way too similar. To the point where I felt like there were only 2 main guns, and the only difference was one had a scope and one didn't.

[EternalGamer]

A lack of news, on a title that proclaimed to have in game footage shown at E3 in 2005 is definitely news. The questions need to be asked by someone, at some point. At the very least, assuming the game has come along fine, it's interesting to speculate on when the game will see the light of day.

But hey, if you're that easily disinterested, so long, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


The thing about "news" is that, regardless of what else might be debated about it, there is at least a general consensus that it is a term that, at the very very least, indicates "information" of some type. A lack of information is not news.

This is true despite CNN's attempt to keep you "updated" with their lack of updates for five hours on a story.

[bapenguin]

I don't mean this to be snide, or as an attack, but that means the side forums as a whole would be news. A lot of forum fodder generates massive reader discussion, but that stuff isn't front page.

Right. And the ones the Editor's feel are related and news worthy...we move them to the front page. Since I'm an editor, there was no need to post this in the forums then move my own post to the front page.

[bapenguin]

The thing about "news" is that, regardless of what else might be debated about it, there is at least a general consensus that it is a term that, at the very very least, indicates "information" of some type. A lack of information is not news.

This is true despite CNN's attempt to keep you "updated" with their lack of updates for five hours on a story.

If Ford announced a new car that could go 500 miles on a single gallon of gas this year. They showed the car off. 2007 comes and goes, and 2008 starts. People begin to wonder if they'll ever get this great car. Ford hasn't shown the car to anyone anymore, nor has it talked about it.

Is that news?

[Gorvi]

Its been a while, but I had two main complaints.

1) No AI. Gameplay boiled down to waiting at a certain point for enemies to rush at you as you mowed them down.

2) The weapons seemed way too similar. To the point where I felt like there were only 2 main guns, and the only difference was one had a scope and one didn't.

Thanks, man, I appreciate the opinion. As a console gamer, I've come to expect crappy AI, hopefully with the 360/PS3 we'll be able to expect better AI simply because they can devote more power to that. As far as the weapons, eh, that sucks, but I may still pick it up.

[Goronmon]

Thanks, man, I appreciate the opinion. As a console gamer, I've come to expect crappy AI, hopefully with the 360/PS3 we'll be able to expect better AI simply because they can devote more power to that. As far as the weapons, eh, that sucks, but I may still pick it up.Yeah, its definately not a terrible game by any means, there were just plenty of other games I would rather have been playing at the time. Its probably cheap enough now that it would be worth buying.

[Thenetcase]

If Ford announced a new car that could go 500 miles on a single gallon of gas this year. They showed the car off. 2007 comes and goes, and 2008 starts. People begin to wonder if they'll ever get this great car. Ford hasn't shown the car to anyone anymore, nor has it talked about it.

Is that news?

Just for the record, bap, I'm behind you 100% on this one.

It's the same as if Bush declared war on Iran next and said they were moving in troops... and then nothing was ever said about it. People would definitely see that as a newsworthy thing.

The lack of news on something that should be plastered all over everything shoud be intriguing. There's either something extremely exciting in the works or something disappointing. There's usually no "in between" point for stuff like that.

I guess the most obvious analogy here would be Duke Nukem. The new game has been in the works for years. Having NO NEWS about it whatsoever has created MASSIVE amounts of tension and NEWS for YEARS. Almost a decade in fact! That means that yes, NO NEWS can equal NEWS.

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[EternalGamer]

If Ford announced a new car that could go 500 miles on a single gallon of gas this year. They showed the car off. 2007 comes and goes, and 2008 starts. People begin to wonder if they'll ever get this great car. Ford hasn't shown the car to anyone anymore, nor has it talked about it.

Is that news?

No, news would be when you go and ask Ford about the problem and they give you some type of response (even if their response is a lack of response). Then at least you have "new" information. And even then it would be a rather sorry atttempt at news, unless you attempted to look into where they were supposedly manufacutring their cars, what their competitors or scientist had to say about the technology, etc. Recalling up things that people already know is not news, it is a reminder.

[rein]

The thing about "news" is that, regardless of what else might be debated about it, there is at least a general consensus that it is a term that, at the very very least, indicates "information" of some type. A lack of information is not news.

This is true despite CNN's attempt to keep you "updated" with their lack of updates for five hours on a story.

Did you not watch the Iraq war coverage and the search for wmd's? There was a lot of "lack of information" in the news. :D

If IGN, or some other video game reporting site, ran a story about the lack of Killzone 2 footage, I bet it would have been submitted as news to EvAv. Maybe BA should get on the phone and try to get us a quote or something to add to the post. Do it BA. Call your Sony rep and ask where the hell Killzone 2 is. please?

..well, this post makes less sense since you posted the one above it while I was typing it. :o

[Thenetcase]

Yeah, its definately not a terrible game by any means, there were just plenty of other games I would rather have been playing at the time. Its probably cheap enough now that it would be worth buying.


That's how I felt about HALO when it came out. I didn't even get it for the XBox. I got the PC version and had more fun with that. But it's definitely NOT a ground-breaking FPS and never was. People who thought that were deceived by mass marketting campaigns that were carefully and effectively planned and distributed across many media platforms.
It's like Hitler told his council: "If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it". It's true. That's what MS did for HALO and it worked. :)

HALO was NOT A BAD GAME AT ALL, but it was definitely NOT revolutionary like they claimed it was.

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[EternalGamer]

Did you not watch the Iraq war coverage and the search for wmd's? There was a lot of "lack of information" in the news. :D

If IGN, or some other video game reporting site, ran a story about the lack of Killzone 2 footage, I bet it would have been submitted as news to EvAv. Maybe BA should get on the phone and try to get us a quote or something to add to the post. Do it BA. Call your Sony rep and ask where the hell Killzone 2 is. please?


If he did that, at least it would begin to become some sembalance of news. And any news organization that just gives you the information that they "still don't have any information" is really shitty news. Maybe you guys watch too much CNN. NPR has news. CNN rarely does. Instead they continually tease you with the possibility that they might have news sometime soon.


For the record, I don't really have a large problem with Baps posting this on the frontpage. But justifying it by calling it "news" doesn't make sense to me. As Kelegacy has already pointed out, it completely destroys the distinction between news and regular forum posts.

[bapenguin]

Did you not watch the Iraq war coverage and the search for wmd's? There was a lot of "lack of information" in the news. :D

If IGN, or some other video game reporting site, ran a story about the lack of Killzone 2 footage, I bet it would have been submitted as news to EvAv. Maybe BA should get on the phone and try to get us a quote or something to add to the post. Do it BA. Call your Sony rep and ask where the hell Killzone 2 is. please?

While it would be nice if I could "call up" our Sony rep....I hardly have a solid list of EMAIL contacts for them. They aren't exactly responsive. I did send an email off though.

But...I will append the existing article to make it sound more newsworthy.

[rein]

The netcase
It was the music in Halo that did it. I can't believe there has not been some kind of story proving that Bungie had subliminal advertising in the Halo theme. That music still haunts me to this day. It's in my head right now. Get it out! :eek:

Everyone else
Maybe this isn't "news", but the editors here at EvAv have a right to post editorials on the front page. I kind of read this as a mini editorial more than an investigative news piece. I guess I read it wrong.

[Vandenh]

Killzone 2 never existed... why are you even worried that it is not here yet????

>HALO was NOT A BAD GAME AT ALL, but it was definitely NOT revolutionary like they claimed it was.

Here we go again... if you don't think it was I pity you, but I guess you feel cool by stating this.

[Odyzen]

Sony was unavailable for comment. Now it's news :p

[Thenetcase]

While it would be nice if I could "call up" our Sony rep....I hardly have a solid list of EMAIL contacts for them. They aren't exactly responsive. I did send an email off though.

But...I will append the existing article to make it sound more newsworthy.

Don't cave into their pathetic excuses.

Posts like yours make this site different from every other site out there by giving it a personal and less corporate, business-like feel. I prefer to have a site run by real people who aren't out to prove anything and don't need to get rich off of their hobby. That's rare and that's why I visit Evil AVatar every day. If those assholes who badgered you about this aren't going to contribute and they leave the site, let me know and I'll send in an extra $50 next time I contribute to this site.
I'd gladly pay their share to keep this site personal and exactly the way it is now. Very few places let you scream "fuckmook" at someone in large yellow font... and very few places even let you attain anywhere near true freedom of speech and expression. ;)

[Thenetcase]

Killzone 2 never existed... why are you even worried that it is not here yet????

>HALO was NOT A BAD GAME AT ALL, but it was definitely NOT revolutionary like they claimed it was.

Here we go again... if you don't think it was I pity you, but I guess you feel cool by stating this.

Okay, that's a fair opinion... you can pity me, I probably need it! :)

But do this for me: List features that make it revolutionary ... or even better than other mainstream FPS games.

Thanks!
-TNC-

[EternalGamer]

Yeah, damn those robotic corporate lackeys that actually provide information. It's refreshing when someone stands up to to them and bravely refuses to provide substance.

[EternalGamer]

Sony was unavailable for comment.

Cute.

So, can we all just start sticking this at the end of our posts and submit them as news? :)

[Gorvi]

Okay, that's a fair opinion... you can pity me, I probably need it! :)

But do this for me: List features that make it revolutionary ... or even better than other mainstream FPS games.

Thanks!
-TNC-

I'll second the question. Other than tight controls (for a console FPS) I never saw the big deal with Halo either.

[bapenguin]

Cute.

So, can we all just start sticking this at the end of our posts and submit them as news? :)

Only if you email the rep and don't get a response in 30 seconds.

For the record, I don't really have a large problem with Baps posting this on the frontpage. But justifying it by calling it "news" doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah...I really should be trying to justify it as "news" I know it's not. It's more of an editorial anyway.

[Goronmon]

Yeah, damn those robotic corporate lackeys that actually provide information. It's refreshing when someone stands up to to them and bravely refuses to provide substance.Dear Eternal Gamer,

Please remove the stick from your ass. Thanks.

Love,
Goronmon

;)

[Thenetcase]

Yeah, damn those robotic corporate lackeys that actually provide information. It's refreshing when someone stands up to to them and bravely refuses to provide substance.

Substance has nothing to do with it...
Publishing a news article on lack of information that SHOULD be available is definitely something worth talking about.

The point of my last post was obviously missed by you. I, and many other people no doubt, read this site because it's actually one of the rare places where you can come to read the writer's opinions because they aren't ballsucking some big corporate monster.

-TNC-

[EternalGamer]

How are you going to accuse me of being too serious when I was making fun of someone else for a ridiculious argument about how only evil robotic "corporations" provide information.

[Bishop]

It would be a shame if this game fades into nothingness. The first one was so good and the second one looked even better. Pre-rendered or not it's still going to look alot better then one so I'm all up for that.

[Thenetcase]

How are you going to accuse me of being too serious when I was making fun of someone else for a ridiculious argument about how only evil robotic "corporations" provide information.

Actually you were missing said person's point about how that isn't bad, but this is better.

[EternalGamer]

y one of the rare places where you can come to read the writer's opinions because they aren't ballsucking some big corporate monster.

-TNC-

No, I understand your overly cliched view of "evil corporation" whoredom very well. I just find it incredibly silly.

[Stig]

They said that they wouldn't say anything about Killzone for the PS3 until they released Killzone for the PSP. That won't be until the 31st or so, so don't expect to hear anything before then.

I was rather hoping that they would have at least something at Sony's Gamers Day today, but probably not. They'll show it "when its ready"... :D

[Knite]

Would it make you all feel better if bapenguin just called it an editorial, by an editor of the site?
since... like.. you know... editors sometimes editorialize.... and stuff?

[Dag-Sabot]

Maybe I could start a news thread about where i thought I left my car keys last night and how im hoping they'll turn up soon sometime in 2007.

-Generically themed "Irish-style Pub" No. 62543 was unavailable for comment.

[EternalGamer]

Yes, editorials are not news and that's a fair point. Although in my mind, good editorials still avoid just stating the obvious, which is why they deserve being distinguished from just normal forum posts.

[MaiXu]

Uh, maybe the whol "demo" at E3 a few years ago was total bullshit, it was all pre-rendered and the game really isn't even that far along if it even exists at all?

The first Killzone, by the way, was nothing spectacular. Hardly something to really build a franchise with.

[cliffbo]

I was thinking about Killzone 2 round the time of TGS, but I'd forgotten about it since. I'm one of those who think that the first one was a blast, although I much preferred Cold Winter for some reason.

Anyway, K2 is probably still in heavy development and will likely be Sony's answer to Halo 3 - even though the 'Halo-killer' label Sony attributed to Killzone backfired on them.

you are probably right when you say it will be released at about the same time as halo3 but i think you will find its ms$ who is waiting for kz2 not the other way around also neither sony or guerrilla ever said that kz was a halo beater that was what the magazines at the time were suggesting and they were wrong as the two games are very different.

:p

[Wolvie]

Well it was obviously a CG movie, after seeing next-gen graphics from both the 360 and PS3, you can tell that nothing runs THAT smoothly.
But still, it is rather weird that Sony hasn't even said a word about it's Halo counter-measure. I mean, this game WAS supposed to be the game that made Xbox 360 owners forget about their 360's and get a PS3, right? So what gives???

[EternalGamer]

The way you could tell it was CG was that every character in that demo had their own independant animations. There didn't appear to be any animation scripts for say, walking, or moving. It was all individual and unique. No game can do that. Assassin's Creed seems to be a step in that direction, but even it is a far cry from something like that video.

[Thenetcase]

The way you could tell it was CG was that every character in that demo had their own independant animations. There didn't appear to be any animation scripts for say, walking, or moving. It was all individual and unique. No game can do that. Assassin's Creed seems to be a step in that direction, but even it is a far cry from something like that video.

Good point.
Games are getting close... that's for damn sure. I would be willing to bet that with the advent of ATI and nVidia placing physics controllers on GPUs that there will be a MAJOR leap in the right direction soon. As in, with-in 12 months.

-TNC-

[51|RandoM]

You sir... Are a...

PS3 FAN BOI FUCKMOOK!!!!

Now piss off and die. There's no reason to badger someone because they actually asked a legit question.
Personally I think that Sony's surprise for us about Killzone2 is that it's been cancelled. heh heh.

-TNC-



Yeah, compare his well-reasoned post to yours and then try figuring out who the fanboy is...

[51|RandoM]

It's news because I made it news. It's news because its a valid question. It's news because it generates reader discussion.

A question about the length of your cock would fit all three of those conditions too, how long before we see that on the front page?

:D

[bapenguin]

A question about the length of your cock would fit all three of those conditions too, how long before we see that on the front page?

:D

The problem with that is there's not enough room on the front page.

[51|RandoM]

The problem with that is there's not enough room on the front page.

So, opera on the DS works that well?

:p

On topic, they're still trying to live down the hype fiasco from the pre-rendered movie. I don't think we'll hear much until the game is almost done. Then, presuming it actually turns out nice, they'll open the floodgates and we'll be awash in hype, just like we are for Gears of War currently.

[[VSK]BadCRC]

Jesus Christ, this thread turned into one major clusterfuck of fanboyism and whatever classifiction of dip stick "omg ea is teh d00m3d" falls into. So much so, that I felt compelled to comment on it. My ranting will commense, now.

To the asshole that came out against bap for posting this in the first post, please proceed to the nearest hole, throw yourself inside, and die. You will not be missed.

You seem to forget that people are capable of free thought, in that bap can think to himself "Hey, Killzone2, it's been missing for about a year, year and a half now with no word from anybody on it's developmental state, and there's no relevent news on it's production status on the internet, I wonder what people think about it." - I don't need the New York Times, a Google News, or Yahoo News to tell me what I think about something else, sometimes I can just decide what I think based off what I know or maybe don't know.



My friends at work warned me about how dumb ea is. At first, i thought it was interesting...a site where people bicker about everything that happens in gaming...but alas I have to say i should have heeded my friends' words. bye."

Welcome to the Internets. The Internets is a worldwide community of egocentric single-celled organisms bent on the destruction of themselves through unintelligent deliberation. Now go fuck yourself.

/end rant


Back to the discussion at hand, Killzone2. Yeah, I think it's a pretty big deal that this game has fallen off the radar. This was the big selling point of the PS3 during last year's E3. Without going too much into doom&gloom possibility of this, I have to wonder though if maybe they canned the project due to developmental costs, and Sony was tight lipped about it so as not to hinder PS3 sales - but this is speculation of course.

Or maybe they're still in development, and Sony's just being tight lipped because they want to make a big announcement out of it. Like, "Remember Killzone2 at last year's E3? Well guess what - launch title baby!". Won't happen.

[Wyrm]

I really wanted to like Killzone, but I just really had no fun playing it. A little game called Black had a similar feeling to it, but did a much better job keeping me entertained. I also hate controlling an FPS on the PS2, but that's just me.

[51|RandoM]

I also hate controlling an FPS on the PS2, but that's just me.

It isn't just you. :p

[dirtbag]

My purpose in the response was that I"m sick of biggotted fucktards coming on here and blasting everyone who pisses in the direction of their favorite game or console.
If they don't have anything constructive to say or do, they should just go hang out with people who like them. It's bullshit to come here and be retarded here.


That's enough -- you don't want to get BigJonno all stirred up again, do you? :p

Besides, it's the "biggotted fucktards" who make things so very interesting here. In fact, that can be the new slogan.

"Evil Avatar: You'll come for the news and discussion, but you'll stay for the biggotted fucktards."

[Gorvi]

That's enough -- you don't want to get BigJonno all stirred up again, do you? :p

Besides, it's the "biggotted fucktards" who make things so very interesting here. In fact, that can be the new slogan.

"Evil Avatar: You'll come for the news and discussion, but you'll stay for the biggotted fucktards."

Quick, someone get that added to the logo ASAP!

[Siraris]

I have a feeling that everyone may get an answer to this sooner than they think, and not what most people (at least on this board) are expecting :D

[Chameleo]

my prediction:

they'll sit on the title till they can make the game look like the video released in 05. then they'll say "SEE!? IT WASN'T PRE-RENDERED!!" (in 2008).

[Roc Ingersol]

if it was gonna compete with Halo3, they'd have released something else by now.

[Watership]

Anybody defending Killzone didn't play a single PC FPS before.

Killzone was UTTER SHIT. If I was to recommend a PS2 FPS to someone I would go with SOCOM 3, miles better.

For PS2 however, it was an entry into a genre that they had very few entries in.

[Siraris]

if it was gonna compete with Halo3, they'd have released something else by now.

Yes, because we have just received a tidal wave of information about Halo 3 as well, and it's scheduled to be released in less than 6 months.

[Thenetcase]

Yes, because we have just received a tidal wave of information about Halo 3 as well, and it's scheduled to be released in less than 6 months.

Let's see... we know everything we need to know about HALO3...

1.) It has a killer techno classical soundtrack, like the first two. That's a big selling point.
2.) It has guns and alien technology and shields and malee weapons.
3.) It has multiplayer and XBL content
4.) It has great graphics.
5.) It'll have big sweaty aliens throwing big balls of goo around.
6.) There will be a sexy chick at least TALKING in it.
7.) It will provide over 15 hours of non-stop single player action!

Anyways...
That's all we need to know that millions of people who have bought the first two will buy this one.

And it might be a great game. but since I haven't been impressed with the first two yet, I'll just step back and watch.

-TNC-

PS. 8.) There will be something about a flood and some crap about aliens trying to bring the end of the world. No doubt.
9.) It will have the master cheff ... I mean chief in it.

[Zanzibar]

i'm betting that they're super hard at work on it and they're trying their best to get it close to what the videos were, and we might hear about it at around summer 2007 and if they can get it ready in time, they'll try to launch it against Halo 3.
I like this theory. I think you're right on. At the very least, it will be revealed with a kick-ass trailer shortly after Halo 3's next big media release; probably near Christmas.

[Siraris]

We barely knew anything about Gears of War until recently, yet somehow it got hyped into one of the biggest games ever (based on a couple screenshots and a bit of story/gameplay mechanics).

Sony has one of the best marketing machines on the planet, I think they know how to handle the launch of one of their biggest games. But of course, the guys spending time posting on a internet messageboard probably know better, right?

[caballero776]

I imagine they're waiting for people to forget a little more about that trailer. Also they couple possibly be waiting for something like Halo 3 gameplay footage to be released, or Gears Of War to be launched. So if its really mind-boggelingly better looking then they have a trump card.
I don't know much, but I do know this: no one 'waits around' when you're developing a game. When it's done, it goes out the door.

What's more, next-gen games take a whole lot more effort to make... so don't expect that anyone's sitting around on their thumbs when it comes to next-gen titles.

[Dag-Sabot]

We barely knew anything about Gears of War until recently, yet somehow it got hyped into one of the biggest games ever (based on a couple screenshots and a bit of story/gameplay mechanics).

I believe the difference here is..

What we knew at E3: Gears had actual game play video. I guess they missed that small part at Sony-Jugend summercamp.

[Siraris]

I believe the difference here is..

What we knew at E3: Gears had actual game play video. I guess they missed that small part at Sony-Jugend summercamp.

It's ironic you say that, because somehow Motorstorm used CG reference footage and the final game looks almost identical to that. You act like Sony using reference footage for a game is a new thing :confused:

Again, I think you'll be quite surprised when you see what the final Killzone 3 looks like :rolleyes:

[Venkman]

And another thread about video games degenerates into posters bickering with each other over semantics.

[Dag-Sabot]

It's ironic you say that, because somehow Motorstorm used CG reference footage and the final game looks almost identical to that. You act like Sony using reference footage for a game is a new thing :confused:

Again, I think you'll be quite surprised when you see what the final Killzone 3 looks like :rolleyes:

I like pleasant surprises and long walks on the beach.
edit: Not to get bogged down in semantics, but that wasn't at all ironic.

[Venkman]

We barely knew anything about Gears of War until recently, yet somehow it got hyped into one of the biggest games ever (based on a couple screenshots and a bit of story/gameplay mechanics).

I think it was the graphics. One of the few games that looked next gen and was actually real time at the time it was revealed.

Sony has one of the best marketing machines on the planet, I think they know how to handle the launch of one of their biggest games. But of course, the guys spending time posting on a internet messageboard probably know better, right?

I think many would agree Sony seems to be acting very, very strangely about the PS3.

[Dag-Sabot]

And another thread about video games degenerates into posters bickering with each other over semantics.And another thread with a clumsy indictment from a poster who then goes on to parrot the contents of many previous posts -without adding anything to the discussion. Wow, I love editorials. *sqaawk!*

[Citizen Philip]

And another thread with a clumsy indictment from a poster who then goes on to parrot the contents of many previous posts -without adding anything to the discussion. Wow, I love editorials. *sqaawk!*

Ad nauseum.

[tayaya]

Well it's time for my first post here on the forums, and I'm sure I'll someday regret chipping my 2 cents in right in the midst of a heated argument, but here goes...

As far as the original Killzone is concerned, I think it's a good game in its own right, and to be honest I like many of the weapons and a lot of the art direction better than the thinks we have in the Halo universe. It wasn't without its problems (buggy engine that let you get snagged on perfectly flat walls, dumb-as-hell AI, and WAAAAY too many of the same exact enemies to kill), but overall it was a fantastic game witha decent story. The sad part about it though is that the first level is undoubtedly the the most impressive...the game makes a big splash with it and then the rest that follows is kinda monotonous after about 4 runs through gray buildings. Considering it's a PS2 game though, it's pretty impressive for what it is, and again I love the art direction, the Killzone universe itself, and some of the level designs. The game has a lot of obvious flaws but all thigns considered it's a good game that fell victim to the hype machine.

Fast forward to Killzone 2/3/whatever it is...

The videos shown at that PS3 unveiling oh-so-long ago were all very controversial pieces, becuase they all showcased too-good-to-be-true visuals and very obviously pre-scripted/pre-rendered "gameplay." Sirairis brings up a good point about Motorstorm though. It's very close to looking like the "target video" that was shown, with a few notable exceptions - the environment textures and foliage dont' look quite as nice, and we wont' see any mud getting caked on windshields to the point where visibility is totally reduced. That said though, the video from back then does look awfully close to the finished product.

BUT, a racing game and an FPS are two different animals, and cars don't ahve to move as fluidly and organically as humans/aliens/critters do. I think with Killzone we'll see environments and vehicles of the caliber we saw in that "target video," but the characters aren't going to look quite as detailed in terms of facial textures, animations, on in-game animation. Is it coming? I think so. Is it going to be awesome? Maybe. Will it be as impressive as Sony hyped it up to be with that video clip? I doubt it. It'll still be impressive, but not as close to the target video as Motorstorm was, simply because of the type of game we're talking about.

Just a thought.

Don't mind the typos...am at work and don't care to proofread!

[Gorvi]

Well it's time for my first post here on the forums, and I'm sure I'll someday regret chipping my 2 cents in right in the midst of a heated argument, but here goes...

As far as the original Killzone is concerned, I think it's a good game in its own right, and to be honest I like many of the weapons and a lot of the art direction better than the thinks we have in the Halo universe. It wasn't without its problems (buggy engine that let you get snagged on perfectly flat walls, dumb-as-hell AI, and WAAAAY too many of the same exact enemies to kill), but overall it was a fantastic game witha decent story. The sad part about it though is that the first level is undoubtedly the the most impressive...the game makes a big splash with it and then the rest that follows is kinda monotonous after about 4 runs through gray buildings. Considering it's a PS2 game though, it's pretty impressive for what it is, and again I love the art direction, the Killzone universe itself, and some of the level designs. The game has a lot of obvious flaws but all thigns considered it's a good game that fell victim to the hype machine.

Fast forward to Killzone 2/3/whatever it is...

The videos shown at that PS3 unveiling oh-so-long ago were all very controversial pieces, becuase they all showcased too-good-to-be-true visuals and very obviously pre-scripted/pre-rendered "gameplay." Sirairis brings up a good point about Motorstorm though. It's very close to looking like the "target video" that was shown, with a few notable exceptions - the environment textures and foliage dont' look quite as nice, and we wont' see any mud getting caked on windshields to the point where visibility is totally reduced. That said though, the video from back then does look awfully close to the finished product.

BUT, a racing game and an FPS are two different animals, and cars don't ahve to move as fluidly and organically as humans/aliens/critters do. I think with Killzone we'll see environments and vehicles of the caliber we saw in that "target video," but the characters aren't going to look quite as detailed in terms of facial textures, animations, on in-game animation. Is it coming? I think so. Is it going to be awesome? Maybe. Will it be as impressive as Sony hyped it up to be with that video clip? I doubt it. It'll still be impressive, but not as close to the target video as Motorstorm was, simply because of the type of game we're talking about.

Just a thought.

Don't mind the typos...am at work and don't care to proofread!

Good first post and all good points!

[Vermillion]

This post has been removed by me as requested by the Admins.

I apologize for anyone offended by the made up words I used. They were not meant as derogatory slang towards any social, economic, socio-economic, religous or racial group, nor was the context they were used in meant as anything more than a fictiously and poposterous representation of what transpires on these forums on a daily basis.

I do not however, apologize for your need to push your biased ideology of what is "socially acceptable" on a message board. A joke with the made up word, unacceptable, a joke about loving Tom Clancy games because of the ability to murder Mexicans, a-ok. The people that complained are biased hypocrites, only looking out for themselves, but turning a blind eye when it's a joke at the expense of another group. Classic.

[Venkman]

Why don't you go die in a fire noob. You're thoughtful insights are neither wanted or appreciate. Call someone a "fanboi", a "faggzor", a "jewbie", a "fuckmook" or don't post at all.

I haven't heard some of those insults before. hilarious! I almost snorted my drink. ;)

Nice first post, dude up there. I agree about Killzone. The sound crushed Halo. The guns were meaty and lethal sounding, even the reload animations were satisfying.

Halo 2 had machine guns that sounded weak, especially the dual wield machine pistols. Lame ass sound design.

The covenant ships didn't have enough oomph to their sound, nor their weapons. The guns sounded like something from a Saturday morning cartoon.

And the faceless marines, although voice acted by a variety of hollywood talent, had little impact on the game. it was almost as if Bungie geeks tried to get every hot chick from TV shows they could.

Although the gravel-like voice of the main prophet in Halo 2 was bad ass.

[tayaya]

Why don't you go die in a fire noob. You're thoughtful insights are neither wanted or appreciate. Call someone a "fanboi", a "faggzor", a "jewbie", a "fuckmook" or don't post at all.

I'll keep that in mind for the future, fuckmook. Wanted to sound intelligent...at least for the first post. :p

[Jack B]

It's ironic you say that, because somehow Motorstorm used CG reference footage and the final game looks almost identical to that. You act like Sony using reference footage for a game is a new thing :confused:

Again, I think you'll be quite surprised when you see what the final Killzone 3 looks like :rolleyes:

It's not the target video footage many people have a problem with, it's the claim that's it's "in-game or gameplay" footage, that people rail on Sony for...

Big difference. In all in how high you set expectations. And Sony set the expectations so very high at E3 2005 in order to try and derail the 360.

Yeah, so that's why you've seen 10 million posts since then of people trying to knock Sony off that pedestal they put themselves on...

[Jack B]

We barely knew anything about Gears of War until recently, yet somehow it got hyped into one of the biggest games ever (based on a couple screenshots and a bit of story/gameplay mechanics).

Sony has one of the best marketing machines on the planet, I think they know how to handle the launch of one of their biggest games. But of course, the guys spending time posting on a internet messageboard probably know better, right?

What's your definition of "recently", because since about 200 people got hands on time at E3, I wouldn't describe that as a "couple of screenshots and a bit of story/gameplay mechanics. I'd describe that as hands on time. Since it won best Console Game from the 36 contributing sites of GameCriticsAwards.com, I'd hardly call that "barely knowing anything...".

You're confusing "hype" with "actual hands-on play". Two different things. Hype is marketing, press releases, ads, promotional items. Opinion is from Hands On play is opinion, not hype. You may disagree with the overwhelming majority of those users who've played with a controller in their hands, but that's not hype.

[dirtbag]

I'll keep that in mind for the future, fuckmook. Wanted to sound intelligent...at least for the first post. :p

He left out "fucktard" as well, but maybe he's waiting for you to have more posts. :cool:

Anyway, welcome to the boards!

[Thenetcase]

I'll keep that in mind for the future, fuckmook. Wanted to sound intelligent...at least for the first post. :p

For the record.. if you ever use Fuckmook again it should be formatted in text as follows:

FUCKMOOK!!!11!!1\

Regards,

\\\TNC/// ("")

[fatefodder]

I noticed this a while back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc

If the above video is true, I think the problem that Killzone 2 will face that other games may not is that the "gameplay" video was made by a CG company, not Geurilla. The latter will have to refer to the former's work as a bar.

Again, assuming that the video's content is true.

On another note--going back to the original post, however: I think that sooner or later Sony will have to resolve the Killzone issue , and when they do this sort of speculation will be pretty pointless.

All we have now is an "in-game" video; the rest is just guesswork and wishful thinking.

[Utils]

The Killzone Story is kind of like the Perfect Dark on XBOX fiasco. Or any Rare game for that matter.

[Wasson_]

[RPG NPC]

I heard it was deep in the woods near the old elven temple...

[/RPG NPC]

[TrainwreckX]

More likely than not, they're trying to push Resistance, and figure that if they were to push a game that looks so similiar, they'd cut into Resistance's sales. Of course the fanboy perspective will be that it was all prerendered, nothing is ready, and the game was just vaporware. I'm guessing that second opinion will be the predominant vein of the rest of the replys to this thread.

Fanboys like Blur Studio, who turned down that pre-rendered video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CQ1qxxWLQ

You, sir, were pwned. That just happened.

[Gorvi]

Fanboys like Blur Studio, who turned down that pre-rendered video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CQ1qxxWLQ

You, sir, were pwned. That just happened.

Oh no, I've been pwned! The agony! Honestly, I wasn't trying to imply that the video was pure gameplay, I was simply saying that they're more than likely working on something that will end up looking pretty similiar. My second comment was sarcasticly aimed at those that simply see the word Sony and mindlessly bitch on and on about how everything PS3 and PSP related is shit while hugging their 360. Fanboy comments on either side are annoying as hell, and really, I'll make a positive or negative comment about any system, regardless.

[TrainwreckX]

Oh no, I've been pwned! The agony! Honestly, I wasn't trying to imply that the video was pure gameplay, I was simply saying that they're more than likely working on something that will end up looking pretty similiar. My second comment was sarcasticly aimed at those that simply see the word Sony and mindlessly bitch on and on about how everything PS3 and PSP related is shit while hugging their 360. Fanboy comments on either side are annoying as hell, and really, I'll make a positive or negative comment about any system, regardless.

Well, as I only own a PS2 in this generation (and PC) I can hardly be considered a fan boy. That being said, I find it hard to get excited about the Playstation 3 in any regard. With the best exclusive being Metal Gear Solid 4 in 2008, I can wait.

[dirtbag]

Well, as I only own a PS2 in this generation (and PC) I can hardly be considered a fan boy. That being said, I find it hard to get excited about the Playstation 3 in any regard. With the best exclusive being Metal Gear Solid 4 in 2008, I can wait.

I'm with you 100% -- I did PC/PS2 this gen, and now it's time to wait and see what the next-gen consoles can do. I'm leaning toward the 360 right now, but I want to see what happens after the other 2 are released (like maybe some juicy price-cuts).

[mister_slim]

I was thinking about Killzone 2 round the time of TGS, but I'd forgotten about it since. I'm one of those who think that the first one was a blast, although I much preferred Cold Winter for some reason.
I think that reason would be that you have taste (no offense to Killzone).

Of course, I'm a Warren Ellis fanboy, so I have to say that.

[TrainwreckX]

I think that reason would be that you have taste (no offense to Killzone).

Of course, I'm a Warren Ellis fanboy, so I have to say that.

I'm a quality software fanboy. There is no quality software being released on the Playstation 3 in the next 6 months (if I'm wrong please tell me now).

[mister_slim]

I'm a quality software fanboy. There is no quality software being released on the Playstation 3 in the next 6 months (if I'm wrong please tell me now).
Well, I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but I'd say both Resistance and Heavenly Sword are quality (Heavenly Sword, I'll admit, is only quality provisionally, but I'll pretty much guarantee Resistance is a great game. I've beaten every Ratchet & Clank multiple times, by the way).

[TrainwreckX]

Well, I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but I'd say both Resistance and Heavenly Sword are quality (Heavenly Sword, I'll admit, is only quality provisionally, but I'll pretty much guarantee Resistance is a great game. I've beaten every Ratchet & Clank multiple times, by the way).

I've heard it doesn't have offline multiplayer. Plus we already know it doesn't have online multiplayer. What does this FPS have that others do not? Why should I buy this instead of something like Gears of War? I mean a legit answer will have me consider it.

[mister_slim]

I've heard it doesn't have offline multiplayer. Plus we already know it doesn't have online multiplayer. What does this FPS have that others do not? Why should I buy this instead of something like Gears of War? I mean a legit answer will have me consider it.
Well, it has offline co-op, which is what I'm interested. I have no idea if Resistance has offline deathmatch. It certainly does have online multiplayer. I have no idea why you should buy this rather than Gears of War. I'm not personally that interested in GoW because I don't particularly like the style and the setting, or Epic's previous games, and the gameplay isn't that novel to me, while I've loved all of Insomniac's games. That said, I'm not planning to buy a PS3 at launch, so I'm not sure why you're asking me to justify such a purchase to you. If you want more info on Resistance, I recommend Ted Price's IGN blog (http://blogs.ign.com/Ted-Insomniac/).