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Kefkataran
08-14-2006, 01:15 PM
Courtesy of Comic Book Resources (http://www.comicbookresources.com): Last week we received word about the fact that an Avengers film was finally in the works. This week, CHUD.com has an interview with the man named as the writer of that film, Zak Penn. A couple interesting tidbits are revealed. From the interview (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=7381):


“No question the thing that it inspired me was the Ultimates run,” Zak told me. “I thought it was brilliant, cinematic, and made me realize that a super hero team didn't have to be goofy. There has been a lot of discussion about whether it will be live action or a next-gen big budget CGI thing, but we've tabled it for awhile while I write the Hulk. I imagine we will make all these decisions next year.”

Doing this based on the popular and successful Millar Ultimates run is obviously a good idea. Now the CGI thing, that's very interesting. What do you guys think about this? It could be a really good solution to how to do a proper, believable Avengers film... if they don't make it suck. Zak also notes in the interview that they're hoping to work some other Marvel characters into the upcoming Hulk film that he's also writing. I can see people's interest in that film rising.

thecrazyd
08-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Bring on Sammy J as Nick Fury!

vash
08-14-2006, 01:26 PM
i think for something based on the ultimates high level cgi would be better than real actors. you could do much more monumental action ;)

Dr.Finger
08-14-2006, 01:42 PM
I think I'd combine the two like in Sin City, or better yet, A Scanner Darkly. Real live actors, but the effects would be green screened in, or Rotoscoping.

Civil Thor
08-14-2006, 01:44 PM
Hopefully it's a little more mature in theme and not just another Ultimate Avengers.

Heretic Machine
08-14-2006, 01:51 PM
All I know is Ultimate Avengers sucked ass, and I don't really want another animated Avengers product. I was hoping for a real live action version, but I guess the star power involved is unrealistic.

SexualChoc
08-14-2006, 01:55 PM
I think I just exploded at the possibility of how awesome this can be. In fact, I just posted how I wanted it to be like this.

Spigot
08-14-2006, 02:03 PM
If it has some really high quality CGI or even high quality animation, I'd watch it. Ultimate Avengers 3 we don't need.

Xerxes
08-14-2006, 02:23 PM
We really don't need another Ultimate Avengers 3. But you know what sad, alot of would probably bite the bullet and buy it.

Salamande
08-14-2006, 02:28 PM
To do it like the franchise deserves, you'd almost have to have it all CGI. Unless, of course, you wanted it to cost about $500 million.

resikel
08-14-2006, 02:36 PM
A little off topic but, since all of the troubles that they are having in bringing Watchmen to the big screen, I would love to see an animated straight-to-DVD of Watchmen or perhaps a treatment of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight as well. Just wishful thinking.

Heretic Machine
08-14-2006, 02:40 PM
To do it like the franchise deserves, you'd almost have to have it all CGI. Unless, of course, you wanted it to cost about $500 million.

I don't see why. The Ultimate Universe, and specifically Ultimate Avengers is very grounded. You'd need to be able to enlarge Hank Pym, and shrink his wife. Bring in Banner as a villain, use the same old effects from The Hulk, add some explosions and you have your special effects budget.

The most money involved would be getting Sam Jackson on as Nick Fury.

digitalErich
08-14-2006, 02:44 PM
I would think a CGI-heavy movie would be the way to go, but completely CGI? I'd a be a little leary of that.

And I've said it a thousand times before...the Watchmen would work best as an HBO maxi-series. You'd get the big budget along with the adult themes and you wouldn't have to sacrifice any plot elements for time.

captainspankypants
08-14-2006, 03:08 PM
I seriously doubt they'll make an all-CGI Ultimates movie after they already made Ultimate Avengers using cell animation. It would be too confusing to the general public.

JazGalaxy
08-14-2006, 03:32 PM
I don't underestand, frankly, why we haven't seen a hybrid movie along the lines of Skycaptian and the world of tomarrow whereby you can't really tell what's CGI and what's real. That's the way comic books movies need to be done, in my opinion. A state of hightened reality whereby you can't tell what's real and what's not.

SexualChoc
08-14-2006, 03:35 PM
I don't see why. The Ultimate Universe, and specifically Ultimate Avengers is very grounded. You'd need to be able to enlarge Hank Pym, and shrink his wife. Bring in Banner as a villain, use the same old effects from The Hulk, add some explosions and you have your special effects budget.

The most money involved would be getting Sam Jackson on as Nick Fury.

I'm pretty sure he would be pretty lenient on the pay check. He loves comics (goes to a store about once a month) and would like to be in a comic movie.

Heretic Machine
08-14-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm pretty sure he would be pretty lenient on the pay check. He loves comics (goes to a store about once a month) and would like to be in a comic movie.

Ya, but I think the SAG probably puts limits on how low budget some actors can work for on big-name movies. I mean, I don't know, that is just my guess from what I've heard of how they do business.

Dr.Finger
08-14-2006, 04:03 PM
A little off topic but, since all of the troubles that they are having in bringing Watchmen to the big screen, I would love to see an animated straight-to-DVD of Watchmen or perhaps a treatment of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight as well. Just wishful thinking.I think animation would be a bad choice on Watchmen. If you look at the story, there are very few special effects needed: Ozymandias' cat thing, Dr. Manhattan's skin, the Mars scenes and the end. What you need more than anything else are good actors and a great script, unlike most comic movies.

SexualChoc
08-14-2006, 04:42 PM
Ya, but I think the SAG probably puts limits on how low budget some actors can work for on big-name movies. I mean, I don't know, that is just my guess from what I've heard of how they do business.

Well cast who the wanted in the Ultimates 4. That would be insanely cool.

resikel
08-14-2006, 05:36 PM
I think animation would be a bad choice on Watchmen. If you look at the story, there are very few special effects needed: Ozymandias' cat thing, Dr. Manhattan's skin, the Mars scenes and the end. What you need more than anything else are good actors and a great script, unlike most comic movies.

I suggested animation because it's probably the cheapest route to make. The live action movie version from last I heard was past the 120+ million budget projection and that's scaring the suits. A HBO maxi-series would be great too but then again, budget wise, it probably going to cost alot more than they are willing to spend.

BlackPete
08-14-2006, 08:16 PM
Was I the only one who thought "The Avengers" on seeing the headline? :confused:

(Ya know... the one with Sean Connery...)

Frogleg Special
08-14-2006, 08:21 PM
I actually enjoy watching Ultimate Alliance (the upcoming Marvel game) CGI trailer. I'm perfectly ok with CGI considering it will be vastly improved for the movie.

Paranoia
08-14-2006, 10:25 PM
I wish someone can do a near perfect comic to movie adaptation like what Rodriguez did with Sin City.

Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2 strayed away what made the original Ultimate comic great.

Ventura_DK
08-14-2006, 11:48 PM
To do it like the franchise deserves, you'd almost have to have it all CGI. Unless, of course, you wanted it to cost about $500 million.

Plus, we all saw how Fantastic Four ended up. CGI would be a good way to bring a large group of super heroes to the screen.