Wii List of Confirmed Launch Titles [Archive]

EvilBob46

08-13-2006, 04:41 PM

By way of Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/) comes an Nwizard list (http://www.nwizard.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=245&Itemid=2) of confirmed Wii launch titles.

There are 27 titles total so far. Interestingly, only 4 of the 27 titles are published by Nintendo, with the rest coming from 3rd parties. Ubisoft is contributing the most titles after their announcement (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6155198.html) earlier this month that they would have 7 games ready for the console on Day 1. Super Mario Galaxy is not on the list, but is expected "within 6 months of the launch" according to Miyamoto (http://wii.ign.com/articles/707/707709p1.html).

JazGalaxy

08-13-2006, 05:57 PM

That launch list get's a "wow" from me. At least 5 titles are contenders for excellent games, and that's about 5 more than most Day 1 console launches.

UnderHero5

08-13-2006, 05:59 PM

Not a bad launch line up.
Damn, I want quite a few of those.
Metroid, Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Red Steel, maybe Excite Truck... and Wario Ware if it makes launch.

Damn it!
I'll have to narrow that list down to 2 or 3.

Camel

08-13-2006, 06:02 PM

Just having Metroid and Zelda on a launch makes it super successful as far as I am concerned. All the others are just icing on the cake.

Leto K

08-13-2006, 06:06 PM

Thats just unfair... Zelda and Metroid at launch? Plus a few other games that I know I'm going to have a hard time leaving on the shelf?
Definately a strong launch selection, and a few A name games right on the horizon too.

antoniogaud

08-13-2006, 06:10 PM

Where am I supposed to get the money for all of this?!

Metal

08-13-2006, 06:16 PM

Pretty easy to get their GameCube games ready since they look pretty much the same.

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 06:19 PM

Pretty easy to get their GameCube games ready since they look pretty much the same.
Oh, hush your mouth! :p

An impressive line-up of titles, to be sure. Gamers rejoice, ignoramii despair...

Neverborne

08-13-2006, 06:20 PM

Pretty easy to get their GameCube games ready since they look pretty much the same.

There's always got to be at least one. Troll.

Anyway, it looks like Nintendo learned from their previous two console launches.

bone_matrix

08-13-2006, 06:21 PM

Pretty easy to get their GameCube games ready since they look pretty much the same.

You sir, are a tool. A giant tool. No need to troll. Now, leave.

ANYWAY, it looks like there are about 10 or so games that I would want on Day 1. I didn't realize that COD3 was going to be a launch game. Hope its cool. Definitely getting trauma center. This will be the best rated launch for a system ever. You heard it hear first. :D

Chameleo

08-13-2006, 06:23 PM

has any console ever launched with this many titles?!

Wonka

08-13-2006, 06:23 PM

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 06:26 PM

Nice list! Sign me up.

I have my 360 and so I can totally wait on that other 3rd kind of console.

Saw this hilarious comparison/spoof of the PS3 and the Wii. I am STILL laughing about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJEcD4wKlc

Go on click it. Click it and laugh...
That's already been posted, but it's still funny as hell.

The PS3 girl... She's the spitting image of someone I know and who tried (unseccessfully) to ruin my working like a long time ago.

mkelehan

08-13-2006, 06:29 PM

Could someone point me to where it was officially confirmed that Metal Slug and FF:CC were going to be ready for launch? We haven't even seen a single screenshot of FF:CC, and we're to believe it's going to be gold in a month or two?

Rirath

08-13-2006, 06:29 PM

Where's my Wii Punchout? :D

Sadly Mario and SSB are still post launch, but Zelda and MP3 look great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJEcD4wKlc

Go on click it. Click it and laugh...

Wow, I can be pretty jaded but I think I turned 3 shades of red on that.
Hilarious, if not the most embarrassing thing ever.

EvilBob46

08-13-2006, 06:35 PM

Could someone point me to where it was officially confirmed that Metal Slug and FF:CC were going to be ready for launch?

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles was announced as a Wii launch title at E3. See here. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/705/705607p1.html)

"Breaking News: Square Enix has just announced "Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers" for Nintendo Wii, also available at launch."

Metal Slug was announced as a launch title in an interview here. (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7430)

"And for us, as a company, the fact that we have a project which is Metal Slug Anthology, which is going to take advantage of the controller whether you're throwing a grenade or firing a gun, at launch. . .it's a very exciting time."

The two games are launch titles from the statements that have been made so far (unless the developers go back on what they originally said).

Phanto

08-13-2006, 06:38 PM

Where am I supposed to get the money for all of this?!

Thats why the Wii is cheap ;) :D

Well the launch tittles are looking good in my opinion, but I'm really looking forward to get Twilight Princess & Metriod on launch day..

Xenkylm

08-13-2006, 06:46 PM

I'm going to try and make it all the way through zelda before moving on to other AAA titles (e.g. Metroid). gonna pick up the party games and zelda on day 1, if possible.

Crittias

08-13-2006, 07:10 PM

What do folks here consider "must have" titles on that launch list?

I'm definitely considering a Wii purchase, but it will be the first Nintendo product I've ever owned, so I know very little about their games.

automaton

08-13-2006, 07:11 PM

I also doubt that Final Fantasy: CC is going to make launch. We have seen absolutely ZERO from this game so far. Not a screen shot, gameplay movie, box art, story synopsis, character art, description of gameplay. Hell, Sponge even hasn't even invented some news about this one.

Come to think of it, you can say the same thing about Metroid Prime 3. We've seen next to nothing on that one either. All I recall is a FMV from E3.

EternalGamer

08-13-2006, 07:15 PM

Tons of stuff on MP3. Lots of developer interviews with info making the rounds (both in Nintendo Power nad in Hardcore Gamer last month). But your right about Crystal Chronicles. If it really is a launch title, Square is sure holding its cards close to its vest.

Kelegacy

08-13-2006, 07:21 PM

Jesus, this is insane. I'm wondering if I should see if I can sell my GC for a few bucks now. I mean, the Wii plays all the same games anyway.

Mozgus

08-13-2006, 07:21 PM

Wow...in terms of quality over quantity, this may actually beat the Dreamcast launch.

Spigot

08-13-2006, 07:36 PM

There's always got to be at least one. Troll.
Too bad they're not like the Highlander. We could get them all to chop off each others' heads.

Well, I'm excited for the launch already and seeing a strong launch line-up means that even if I take my time and buy the games over the usual 6 month drought following most console launchs, there will be a pile of what appear to be decent games to play.

Holy run-on sentence, Batman!

The game I'm really looking forward to (whenever it ends up shipping) is the Disaster: Day of Crisis game. It looks like a spiritual sequel to the Disaster Report games, even if it doesn't have anything to do with them. Call my interest piqued...

Rafer

08-13-2006, 07:37 PM

What do folks here consider "must have" titles on that launch list?

Zelda I assume is going to be the must have title. Personally, subject to reviews and opinion, I'm going for Zelda and Wii Sports. Wii Sports looks like a good way to "show off" the system, as I can imagine people bitching about the controller when they can't fire an arrow straight in Zelda, so Wii Sports should be good to have around. Also I'm curious about Elebits, even though I've heard negative stuff. It looks like a sort of Katamari/Pikmin/HL2 Gravity Gun hybrid.

Metroid I guess would be considered another must have, but personally what I've played of the 3d ones just hasn't really grabbed me.

And I think it's a good thing Nintendo isn't rushing Mario, they've admitted that Mario Sunshine was a bit rushed and I think the system is going to have some dry periods over the next year and a half if developers just jumped on the bandwagon after E3. The DS had a bit of a dry period after launch too right?

Deathbane27

08-13-2006, 07:54 PM

Nintendo delivers my lucky number. IT'S AN OMEN! :D

Edit: GAH! Kamalot, you were supposed to hit Submit a few seconds sooner so I'd have the 27th post in this thread! You ruined the omen! :(

Kamalot

08-13-2006, 07:54 PM

I just realized I can get a Wii and about 6 games for the price of 1 PS3. :)

Kamalot

08-13-2006, 07:55 PM

Jesus, this is insane. I'm wondering if I should see if I can sell my GC for a few bucks now. I mean, the Wii plays all the same games anyway.
Do it. Do it now.

Kamalot

08-13-2006, 07:56 PM

Wow...in terms of quality over quantity, this may actually beat the Dreamcast launch.
Dreamcast had Soul Calibur for the US launch; which is still the best fighting game ever.

Kamalot

08-13-2006, 07:57 PM

I too, wouldn't be shocked if Crystal Chronicles was pushed back. You know, that's okay with me too. I'd love to have Crystal Chronicles on Day 1, but if it gets pushed, I can spend more quality time with some other titles first.

Pinku!

08-13-2006, 08:04 PM

Holy crap...dammit Nintendo, my bank account can't handle all this awesomeness!

...time to start using my husband's. *shifty eyes*

EDIT: SWEET, 100 posts! *strips and runs around nekkid*

Kamalot

08-13-2006, 08:06 PM

Holy crap...dammit Nintendo, my bank account can't handle all this awesomeness!

...time to start using my husband's.
You are gonna start using your husband's awesomeness?! :eek:

Congrats on the 100th post! Send photos of your celebration. :o

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 08:11 PM

You are gonna start using your husband's awesomeness?! :eek:

Congrats on the 100th post! Send photos of your celebration. :o
KAMALOT! Tsk. :p

Neverborne

08-13-2006, 08:21 PM

Too bad they're not like the Highlander. We could get them all to chop off each others' heads.

Yeah, but then there'll still be one left. With our luck he'll gain Super-Troll powers, or something.

Wait. I just described Zeal.

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 08:28 PM

Yeah, but then there'll still be one left. With our luck he'll gain Super-Troll powers, or something.

Wait. I just described Zeal.
Actually, I believe you just described Mike Jones. Well, if Super-Troll powers include plagiarism.

And no, I'm not going to let it lie!

Spigot

08-13-2006, 08:30 PM

Man, I missed this act of evil. Where did he plagiarize?

I think Zeal and Mike Jones will have a huge, lightning-filled duel to the death, hopefully ending with a synchronized decapitation.

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 08:33 PM

Man, I missed this act of evil. Where did he plagiarize?
Read the first post then flip forward to post #68!

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13202

Spigot

08-13-2006, 08:41 PM

Gotta really hope he's the same guy or else you're right!

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Gotta really hope he's the same guy or else you're right!
Different guy. Sadly, it's been proven many times in many different threads. The reason I'll keep bumping my gums about it is because he (Mike) has yet to address the issue.

Spigot

08-13-2006, 08:45 PM

Different guy. Sadly, it's been proven many times in many different threads. The reason I'll keep bumping my gums about it is because he (Mike) has yet to address the issue.
Well, I have to agree with you there. Plagiarists go to the special hell along with child molesters and people who talk in theatres.

*waits for it...*

fitbabits

08-13-2006, 08:50 PM

Well, I have to agree with you there. Plagiarists go to the special hell along with child molesters and people who talk in theatres.

*waits for it...*
The thing is, all he really needed to do when called on it was to edit the post and add a credit to the original author, yet he decided to just brush it off.

Maybe the people who talk in theaters and the child molesters are one in the same? That would explain a lot. Someone should conduct a study, methinks.

The Continental

08-13-2006, 09:00 PM

Is Mike Jones even still around? That question goes for both the troll and the rapper.

destoo

08-13-2006, 09:00 PM

(funny bit from the Nwizard's page)
If that doesn't get you excited about the Wii, you have no soul.

I'll pass on ExciteTruck though.. maybe a rental?

Any word on the Toys-R-Us bundle? Do you usually get to choose your games or they force them on you?

Mozgus

08-13-2006, 09:08 PM

Dreamcast had Soul Calibur for the US launch; which is still the best fighting game ever.
Best 3D fighting game ever, yes. But DC also had like 4 other must own titles at launch too.

Neverborne

08-13-2006, 09:08 PM

Wow, I'm surprised no one has said, "I'm Mike Jones," yet.

Zelda, Metroid, Dragon Quest, and Red Steel for me (ranked by priority if one of the titles start selling out).

Camel

08-13-2006, 09:16 PM

Wow, I'm surprised no one has said, "I'm Mike Jones," yet.

Zelda, Metroid, Dragon Quest, and Red Steel for me (ranked by priority if one of the titles start selling out).
I almost restrained myself from posting:

"Who is Mike Jones?"

Almost. :D

Mike Jones

08-13-2006, 09:18 PM

Pretty easy to get their GameCube games ready since they look pretty much the same.

So true, considering they are using Gamecube Dev Kits to make the games. Pathetic that the Wii isn't even as powerful as XBOX 1.

Neverborne

08-13-2006, 09:22 PM

So true, considering they are using Gamecube Dev Kits to make the games. Pathetic that the Wii isn't even as powerful as XBOX 1.

And he's here!

How does it feel to be crowned, "The Biggest Troll in the Universe?"

Spigot

08-13-2006, 09:43 PM

The thing is, all he really needed to do when called on it was to edit the post and add a credit to the original author, yet he decided to just brush it off.

Maybe the people who talk in theaters and the child molesters are one in the same? That would explain a lot. Someone should conduct a study, methinks.
Sigh. I was hoping someone would get my Firefly quote, but I guess it was not to be. Esp. given that I didn't credit it while lumping it into the discussion on plagiarism.

Oh, the layers upon layers...

thenefariousone

08-13-2006, 09:46 PM

"This post is useless without pictures."
- random farker, 2006

Holy crap...dammit Nintendo, my bank account can't handle all this awesomeness!

...time to start using my husband's. *shifty eyes*

EDIT: SWEET, 100 posts! *strips and runs around nekkid*

Deathbane27

08-13-2006, 10:04 PM

Sigh. I was hoping someone would get my Firefly quote, but I guess it was not to be. Esp. given that I didn't credit it while lumping it into the discussion on plagiarism.

Oh, the layers upon layers...

I got it. Just couldn't come up with a humorous way to respond to it, and posting "That's from Firefly! Lolololololololzorz!!!!1" seemed silly.

shnastybiznastic

08-13-2006, 10:44 PM

Man, those launch titles look great.

Mike Jones is a troll.

Xenkylm

08-13-2006, 11:51 PM

So true, considering they are using Gamecube Dev Kits to make the games. Pathetic that the Wii isn't even as powerful as XBOX 1.

unfortunately, there's a difference between trolling and lying.

kid cabelgo

08-14-2006, 01:38 AM

You sir, are a tool. A giant tool. No need to troll. Now, leave.

ANYWAY, it looks like there are about 10 or so games that I would want on Day 1. I didn't realize that COD3 was going to be a launch game. Hope its cool. Definitely getting trauma center. This will be the best rated launch for a system ever. You heard it hear first. :D

Well, Troll or not, he's technically right. But again, even that's another reason the Wii rocks. We're looking at lower cost and speedier development titles. While the other consoles (and PC for that matter) are waiting years for a few AAA titles to come out, the Wii will be getting piles of cheap, fun games.

At least that's what I hope happens.

Wedge

08-14-2006, 02:46 AM

soco

08-14-2006, 03:03 AM

while i'm happy to see such a large list, i kinda hope that they hold some of those off a bit. this holiday season i'm gonna have like 10-15 must-play games between the consoles and portables :D it's gonna take like 2 months of vacation to get through of these!

more importantly, knowing Nintendo, we may not see new versions of some of these games until the next generation, at least in their full state :( at least, we still have a new mario kart and hopefully a new zelda to look forward to after this, and please god, a new Kid Icarus :D

Opty

08-14-2006, 04:55 AM

Who cares if the first batch of games were mostly developed on Gamecube devkit? Did anyone care that the first batch of PS2 games were mostly developed on the PS1 devkit?

easi

08-14-2006, 05:47 AM

Salvation.

gspot

08-14-2006, 06:14 AM

Dreamcast had Soul Calibur for the US launch; which is still the best fighting game ever.
I hate to be off topic here, but have you ever played Naruto 3 for the GC?

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 07:08 AM

I hate to be off topic here, but have you ever played Naruto 3 for the GC?
Never have. I keep hearing it is good and I tell myself I'll rent it, right after 'one more round' of Soul Calibur. ;)

-Mike Jones-

Watership

08-14-2006, 07:11 AM

The way people treat WII stories here, I sometimes wonder if Nintendo news comes with SUGAR or something. This can't be right. 30 plus games on a release day? No No. That's too many games. 20, MAYBE. Launch is special for game publishers for a reason, and that reason is attach rate. The limited number of titles means that new system buyers have less selection, and end up getting lots of the launch titles. Having that maybe means some titles will have some very low sales. That's not really logical.

30 plus games at launch? With a new control interface? Even if the graphics are Xbox1 end of life quality, that screams "dumping".

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 07:18 AM

30 plus games at launch? With a new control interface? Even if the graphics are Xbox1 end of life quality, that screams "dumping".No, that screams SELECTION.

I know that I won't be able to get all the games on day 1, but I also know that I won't have a dry spell after the 1st week too. Between launch and through the new year, I'll have PLENTY of things to play. IN fact, this may be the first time I actually ASK for games for Christmas, since I won't be able to afford them all.

Plus, if you take a look at the list, you see that there is a huge selection of games. Racing, Shooting, Adventure, Kiddy (spongebob), etc. There is a game on that list for everyone, including your parents.

Tha attach rate is going to be crazy high, cause people will get the Wii for cheap (<$250) and then have money leftover for games. From what I understand a 2-3 game-per-console attach rate is considered VERY healthy at launch. How many games will people walk away with?

You can get a Wii and 6 games for the price of a PS3.

Attach rate for Wii is going to be crazy!

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 07:20 AM

The way people treat WII stories here, I sometimes wonder if Nintendo news comes with SUGAR or something.
No, these stories are about GAMES. You may be a little shocked to find out that GAMERS are interested in GAMES more than hardware, specs or cancelations.

dragntyr

08-14-2006, 07:50 AM

Its good to see that Nintendo finally seems to have third party support after a decade of almost nothing.

Chameleo

08-14-2006, 08:24 AM

actually i'm with watership a bit.

with that many launch titles a lot of great games will be overlooked. launching with so many might be risky....

shnastybiznastic

08-14-2006, 08:53 AM

with that many launch titles a lot of great games will be overlooked. launching with so many might be risky....
Certanly it will take us gamers a while to figure out what's worthwile, but I don't see how launching with a plethora of titles is a bad buisiness decision.

SexualChoc

08-14-2006, 08:58 AM

Hmm. £425 on a PS3 and no games at launch, or a Wii and about 6? That's a no brainer.
But the challenge is choosing the 6....

Phades

08-14-2006, 09:31 AM

This is my list of launch games that I want to leave the store with.

Excite Truck
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Wii Sports

List is subject to change due to word of mouth, reviews and injuries.

However; as has already been mentioned, we have not yet seen a single screenshot from several of the games on this list. I find it odd that they will be available for launch. I mean, no screenshot, BOOM GOLD, launch title.

I can actually believe it. They don't want to release many screenshots because then the game will inevitably be compared to Xbox360/PS3 games purely on graphics (which of course we know the Wii will pale in that regard). Since that's not really a good way to show off the Wii, they're probably waiting to unveil the games until they can get them out there to be PLAYED. Actually, I wish all developers would do that kind of thing. Hold off on showing your game until there's really something to show. Pretty pictures don't mean a thing.

Of course, the higher liklihood is that they simply haven't updated from their "launch title" status and are really nowhere close to being done. Not like this doesn't happen often with "launch" titles. Saint's Row anyone?

I also find it funny how $250 has suddenly become cheap. I don't think that's cheap, it seems more like reasonable for a game system launch. If it comes out at that price it's still more expensive at launch than the Gamecube was. Heck, with the 360 only $50 more it actually seems a little high. I was hoping for more like $199. I'll still be there day one of course to get my Zelda on, I'm just saying....

Rook34

08-14-2006, 09:39 AM

Thankfully, I have the money for a Wii waiting, now I"m just saving for the games, of which there are 6 on the list I want. More games at launch is a great thing for those people who think differently. Like said earlier, you may not be able to afford all the games at launch, but when you are done beating what you got you can go to the store and buy another, not have to wait 4 months for another good game. Also, there are a lot of trolls out there who would say "what a small launch, I'd rather get a XXX that has a larger game selection". Well, now they can't bitch. By the time you've eaten your fill of launch games, Mario, Smash Bros., and others will likely be out.

I am holding off however on selling my cube just in case it's not completely backwards compatible. That and Gamestop only gives 25 bucks for it anyway.

gspot

08-14-2006, 12:21 PM

Never have. I keep hearing it is good and I tell myself I'll rent it, right after 'one more round' of Soul Calibur.

I have to say, way better than soul caliber. Soul caliber caters to button mashers too much IMO. Anyone with Maxi vs. me wins. Naruto is easy enough for first timers to play a game without getting p-raped, but skill definitely shows when veterans are playing.

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 12:56 PM

I have to say, way better than soul caliber. Soul caliber caters to button mashers too much IMO. Anyone with Maxi vs. me wins. Naruto is easy enough for first timers to play a game without getting p-raped, but skill definitely shows when veterans are playing.
The thing is, anyone with enough skill can beat buton mashers at Soul Calibur. I used to be beat by Maxi all the time, until I learned to watch his moves. Maxi is difficult to read, but he can be beat.

I used to get VERY frustrated at people who could run the table at Soul Calibur with no apparent skill. Then I started to watch and analyse their character's weaknesses, moves and the player's style. Soul Calibur is incredibly deep, but is something you don't need to memorize combinations for, like Virtua Fighter or Tekken. It can be learned through rythm and practice along with a great set of friends on whom to practice your skills.

Mozgus

08-14-2006, 03:06 PM

gspot

08-14-2006, 03:18 PM

The thing is, anyone with enough skill can beat buton mashers at Soul Calibur. I used to be beat by Maxi all the time, until I learned to watch his moves. Maxi is difficult to read, but he can be beat.

I used to get VERY frustrated at people who could run the table at Soul Calibur with no apparent skill. Then I started to watch and analyse their character's weaknesses, moves and the player's style. Soul Calibur is incredibly deep, but is something you don't need to memorize combinations for, like Virtua Fighter or Tekken. It can be learned through rythm and practice along with a great set of friends on whom to practice your skills.
...and I find those qualities more with Naruto.

Anyways, despite it's appearances, this is not a debate. It's not a debate, because you did not play Naruto, so you could not possibly know the pros and cons compared to soul caliber. So anything I say about Naruto could be entirley made up jibbery-joo as far as you know.

So break out your freeloader and play some Naruto the next time you get the chance, and then we can discuss a valid topic without biases like gaming gentlemen.

Megalith

08-14-2006, 03:21 PM

I see nothing worth playing except Zelda. Too bad it is just a port.

Also, I am pretty sure that some gay anime game isn't better than the legend of Soul Calibur.

fitbabits

08-14-2006, 03:25 PM

I see nothing worth playing except Zelda. Too bad it is just a port.

Also, I am pretty sure that some gay anime game isn't better than the legend of Soul Calibur.
Wow, a troll with homophobic tendencies. You're a peach, Megalith.

Evil Avatar

08-14-2006, 05:05 PM

Joystiq has posted a list (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/13/the-confirmed-wii-launch-lineup/) of the confirmed Wii launch titles, including gems like Red Steel, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and a new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles title.

Not that much to get excited about. Seems like they are missing a "Halo" style system seller.

TheEpicOfTyler

08-14-2006, 05:07 PM

Does anyone know if Crystal Chronicles will be an online compatible? My party has been split up across far distances. :(

kickmybum

08-14-2006, 05:08 PM

No Halo type game?!?! What do you call "SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab"?? Huh?!

Kelegacy

08-14-2006, 05:08 PM

Not much to be excited about? Evil, I think you make these posts to get people riled up.

No, I KNOW you do.

pseudopseudo

08-14-2006, 05:09 PM

Not that much to get excited about. Seems like they are missing a "Halo" style system seller.
Are you effin' kidding me? What do you think Zelda is? That game alone'll sell systems. I'd have to say the rest of the list rounds out pretty nicely, as well.

thecrazyd

08-14-2006, 05:11 PM

Comon Evil, this is clearly the greatest Launch Lineup of all time. Quit your flaming.

Zanzibar

08-14-2006, 05:12 PM

Between Zelda and Wii Sports, this system will sell like hotcakes.

Camel

08-14-2006, 05:14 PM

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16265

Rirath

08-14-2006, 05:14 PM

Wtf? This list was posted a few days ago and everyone loved it. Now Evil's reposting another link and saying "Meh." Come on, seriously? I've been harder than most on Nintendo all along, but... seriously?

Evil, what exactly would Nintendo have to do to get you excited?

GrinR

08-14-2006, 05:14 PM

Nintendo doesn't need a lineup. Nintendoids line up no matter what for the latest in Mario, Pokemon, etc. fun fun fun!

Chameleo

08-14-2006, 05:15 PM

Not that much to get excited about. Seems like they are missing a "Halo" style system seller.

no, you're missing a "halo" style game. no one buying the Wii will "miss" halo.

Chameleo

08-14-2006, 05:18 PM

Nintendo doesn't need a lineup. Nintendoids line up no matter what for the latest in Mario, Pokemon, etc. fun fun fun!

haha too bad i dont have a dumbass name for people who play halo on xbox or mgs on ps3.

Rirath

08-14-2006, 05:18 PM

Nintendo doesn't need a lineup. Nintendoids line up no matter what for the latest in Mario, Pokemon, etc. fun fun fun!

While it's true, it also helps that the price is quite affordable. The GC didn't have as many AAA titles as I would have liked, but for what little I paid, I more than got my money's worth. If the PS3 was as affordable, I'd gladly line up no matter what for the latest in FF & etc.

When I buy a Nintendo system, I really do mainly want the latest in Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Pokemon, etc. These are the games I BUY the system for, honestly. For the price though, it's totally worth it. Everything else, if there is anything else, is just icing.

Skjef

08-14-2006, 05:20 PM

Not that much to get excited about. Seems like they are missing a "Halo" style system seller.Hilarious. Like throwing meat to rabid dogs. I, for one, will not take the bait.

EvilBob46

08-14-2006, 05:21 PM

Evil Avatar stole my news post.

Jerk.

Mozgus

08-14-2006, 05:22 PM

Lol, jesus. Not only does Evil have no idea what news items are posted to his own site, but he also completely fails at trolling. In order to succeed at trolling, you must ATTACK THE WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE! And the launch line-up is definitely *not* the Wii's weak point. Try again, thank you.

Switcher

08-14-2006, 05:23 PM

Remember people, this is the man that believes the DS is a poor handheld system.

He knows games. :rolleyes:

Returner

08-14-2006, 05:24 PM

I just lost all faith in this site.

Rirath

08-14-2006, 05:25 PM

he also completely fails at trolling. In order to succeed at trolling, you must ATTACK THE WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE! And the launch line-up is definitely *not* the Wii's weak point. Try again, thank you.

You have to wonder though if he really believes it. If mentally right when he posted that, he was saying to himself "Oh yeah, zing baby! Buuuuuurn!"

By the way, the Halo-style game for Wii is called Metroid Prime 3. Many of us are pretty excited about it. Stars a rather famous bounty hunter named Samus. Rather popular series.

I just lost all faith in this site.

Don't worry bud, it's not new. It's just one of the quirks we've learned to live with. Evil's sometimes like the grandpa in the corner that wakes up every once and awhile, forgets where he is, and shouts obscenities that make everyone in the room uncomfortable.

The Great Gatsby

08-14-2006, 05:27 PM

Hahaha. The Douche strikes again. This site rocks!!

Kelegacy

08-14-2006, 05:30 PM

This is Evil's forte. He does this every so often to make people come into a thread and participate in a discussion. He knows his comments are asinine, but he does it to spark conversation and draw people to his site. It's obvious if you have been here for awhile.

Pay no attention, move along. He's not as dumb as he makes himself out to be.

GrinR

08-14-2006, 05:31 PM

haha too bad i dont have a dumbass name for people who play halo on xbox or mgs on ps3.

That's mainly because niether Sony nor Microsoft have the kung-fu grip of Nintendo when it comes to thier fans. Nintendo has their market locked up, just like Apple. Nintendoids buy Nintendo no matter what they release. Apple people will buy Apple computers no matter what. They're different from fanbois because their level of zeal makes fanbois look like casual consumers.

This isn't a criticism, it's an observation of fact, and benefits both Nintendo and Apple similarly.

thecrazyd

08-14-2006, 05:33 PM

That's mainly because niether Sony nor Microsoft have the kung-fu grip of Nintendo when it comes to thier fans. Nintendo has their market locked up, just like Apple. Nintendoids buy Nintendo no matter what they release. Apple people will buy Apple computers no matter what. They're different from fanbois because their level of zeal makes fanbois look like casual consumers.

This isn't a criticism, it's an observation of fact, and benefits both Nintendo and Apple similarly.
I disagree. I find that MS fanboys can be just as rabid, as well as Sony. A fanboy is a fanboy, regardless of the camp.

Chameleo

08-14-2006, 05:46 PM

That's mainly because niether Sony nor Microsoft have the kung-fu grip of Nintendo when it comes to thier fans. Nintendo has their market locked up, just like Apple. Nintendoids buy Nintendo no matter what they release. Apple people will buy Apple computers no matter what. They're different from fanbois because their level of zeal makes fanbois look like casual consumers.

This isn't a criticism, it's an observation of fact, and benefits both Nintendo and Apple similarly.

xboxoids will buy whatever MS comes out with as well. i.e. everyone who bought an xbox before ps3/wii were released.

Camel

08-14-2006, 05:53 PM

I'm going to have to agree with GrinR here. Mostly because I am now one of those people who Nintendo has it's claws sunk into. Xbox and PS# have lots of good games, and will continue to come out with lots of good games. But Nintendo has much more recognizable first party content that people like me will immediately be more interested in than most other games. Mario? Zelda? Metroid? I'm already hooked. Cool sounding game for Xbox/PS#? I almost always take the "I'll wait and see" approach. There are lots of people who will defend any of the three sytems extrememly vocally, but Nintendo fans are a different breed entirely. It's not a bad thing, but there's definitely a completely different vibe going on. I didn't explain this very well, but hopefully my point is somewhat understandable.

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 06:48 PM

...anything I say about Naruto could be entirley made up jibbery-joo as far as you know.
That's true. Plus, I like the words jibbery-joo.

I'll never get around to Naturo though. Not because I don't believe you, but because Soul Calibur has me so completely satisfied I don't ever feel the need to play another fighting game, let alone the urge to go BUY one.

I don't doubt you, but I am totally satisfied with Soul Calibur. If there was never another fighting game made, I would still be happy. The exception comes in the form of Power Stone, but that's a different kind of fighting alltogether. :cool:

thecrazyd

08-14-2006, 07:44 PM

...and I find those qualities more with Naruto.

Anyways, despite it's appearances, this is not a debate. It's not a debate, because you did not play Naruto, so you could not possibly know the pros and cons compared to soul caliber. So anything I say about Naruto could be entirley made up jibbery-joo as far as you know.

So break out your freeloader and play some Naruto the next time you get the chance, and then we can discuss a valid topic without biases like gaming gentlemen.
Like always, you are wrong. I do like Naruto, but it is not nearly as deep as Soul Caliber. Then again, I know you are biased against SC, due to the fact that you suck at it, and get demolished by button mashers. You suck less at Naruto, and therefore you think it is a better game. That is how you judge your fighters, and as such, you are wrong in this argument.

Chameleo

08-14-2006, 08:04 PM

Kamalot

08-14-2006, 08:12 PM

Like always, you are wrong.Damn! You don't gotta be so rude...you're beating on da gspot! :cool:

But both of you are wrong. It is Soul Calibur, not Soul Caliber! :eek:

gspot

08-14-2006, 08:28 PM

Like always, you are wrong. I do like Naruto, but it is not nearly as deep as Soul Caliber. Then again, I know you are biased against SC, due to the fact that you suck at it, and get demolished by button mashers. You suck less at Naruto, and therefore you think it is a better game. That is how you judge your fighters, and as such, you are wrong in this argument.
If you remeber correctly crazyd, I bought Soul Calibur, and played you, and even though I button mashed, and even though you were much better at the game than I, I was able to beat you with Kilik, Maxi, and Raphael several times (also that breakdancing mummy guy I forget his name). That is my complaint. Bad players beat good players all the time without any goddamn problem. That shouldn't happen.

I also remember playing you and Micah in Naruto (during the period where you guys did nothing but play Naruto for like 3 weeks straight) and getting my ass handed to me on a fairly consistent basis, but not so much so that it just wasn't any fun. Naruto rewards good players more in Naruto than in Soul Calibur, and also is much more fun for both the good players and the noobs.

Also, I intentionally stated "IMO." So, you are telling me that my preference is wrong, which doesn't make any sense you ass pounding cock knight.

thecrazyd

08-14-2006, 09:08 PM

If you remeber correctly crazyd, I bought Soul Calibur, and played you, and even though I button mashed, and even though you were much better at the game than I, I was able to beat you with Kilik, Maxi, and Raphael several times (also that breakdancing mummy guy I forget his name). That is my complaint. Bad players beat good players all the time without any goddamn problem. That shouldn't happen.

I also remember playing you and Micah in Naruto (during the period where you guys did nothing but play Naruto for like 3 weeks straight) and getting my ass handed to me on a fairly consistent basis, but not so much so that it just wasn't any fun. Naruto rewards good players more in Naruto than in Soul Calibur, and also is much more fun for both the good players and the noobs.

Also, I intentionally stated "IMO." So, you are telling me that my preference is wrong, which doesn't make any sense you ass pounding cock knight.
Actually, you seem to have quite the faulty memory. You beat me a couple times at the PS2 version of SC2, because I was used to the Gamecube version. I completely schooled you at the GC version, and still could. You are basing your opinion on the time that your little brother kicked your ass repeatedly as Maxi.

And, while fun, Naruto does not reward good players better then SC. It rewards certain characters more, due to balance issues, but not good players.
Damn! You don't gotta be so rude...you're beating on da gspot! :cool:
It's alright, he knows he is always wrong about everything.

gspot

08-14-2006, 09:27 PM

Actually, you seem to have quite the faulty memory. You beat me a couple times at the PS2 version of SC2, because I was used to the Gamecube version. I completely schooled you at the GC version, and still could. You are basing your opinion on the time that your little brother kicked your ass repeatedly as Maxi.

And, while fun, Naruto does not reward good players better then SC. It rewards certain characters more, due to balance issues, but not good players.

It's alright, he knows he is always wrong about everything.
No, because you brought your GC over my place so you could play as Link instead of Heihachi, and exactly what I said happened, happened. I was able to button mash you several times, and you even got pissed off about it. I remember being constantly reminded about how much bullshit it was that you were losing.

Yes there are power characters in Naruto, but that only matters to noobs. In Naruto 3, the best characters are easily either Temari, or Orochimaru; However, Snappy and I beat each other with weaker characters all the damn time. Yes, Lee is awkward to use for noobs. So is Itachi and Zabuza, yet I pwn with all of them constantly on level 4 comp and so can anyone who has spent the time to play it as well.

again, It's my fucking preference, I do not know what you are arguing. If you are arguing the basis of my preference: I spent just as much time attempting to learn Soul Calibur as I did Naruto. I never wish to play Soul Calibur again and I will play Naruto over and over. I like it better; it's deeper, more variation in characters, more variation in styles, more game modes available, prettier (I guess you could argue this, I just find the cell shading in Naruto very well done in contrast to the graphics in Soul Calibur), and it is also 4 player.

thecrazyd

08-14-2006, 09:34 PM

shnastybiznastic

08-15-2006, 02:10 AM

Christ guys! Why argue over which is deeper when SSBM is better thain either in every way?

thecrazyd

08-15-2006, 02:18 AM

Christ guys! Why argue over which is deeper when SSBM is better thain either in every way?
I disagree, not in saying that SSBM is better, but that it is better in every way.

easi

08-15-2006, 03:35 AM

Nintendo make the best games, so obviously they get the most dedicated fans.

Xbots, on the other hand, tend to be very dull people, droning on about numbers and marketing bullshit. I find them incredibly tiresome.

gspot

08-15-2006, 07:36 AM

What I am arguing is not what you perfer, I am arguing the statement that Naruto is deeper. It is not. It is not at all. This is not a matter of preference. I also know for a fact that you not spend as much time learning SC as you did Naruto. That is a damned dirty lie. Also, your tall tales about being able to even get CLOSE to beating me in SC is nothing more then selective memory, or mild to heavy psychosis. In other words, bring it on, little man.
You were arguing with me before I said Naruto was deeper, that is obviously not what you were arguing. And I spent a shitload of time trying to like Soul Calibur by learning the characters and the only thing you "know for a fact" is that it wasn't entirely during the time when we played each other.

crazyd, get your head out of your ass. This is still fucking preference. As for bringing it on, I returned Soul Calibur 2 after two weeks of dissatisfaction. I'd play you, and still win more times than I should because I can button mash with Kilik. And I don't even fucking care, because I don't play Soul Calibur.

In Naruto 3, I would seriously fuck you up.

thecrazyd

08-15-2006, 09:20 AM

You were arguing with me before I said Naruto was deeper, that is obviously not what you were arguing. And I spent a shitload of time trying to like Soul Calibur by learning the characters and the only thing you "know for a fact" is that it wasn't entirely during the time when we played each other.

crazyd, get your head out of your ass. This is still fucking preference. As for bringing it on, I returned Soul Calibur 2 after two weeks of dissatisfaction. I'd play you, and still win more times than I should because I can button mash with Kilik. And I don't even fucking care, because I don't play Soul Calibur.

In Naruto 3, I would seriously fuck you up.
Wrong again, you were arguing with Kamalot that Naruto is more fun for beginners, and rewards veteran players more. ie that it is more deep. Once again, I am not arguing over a preference, I am arguing this fact. And, you clearly did not spend as much time learning SC as you did Naturo as,
I returned Soul Calibur 2 after two weeks of dissatisfaction.
If only we did not live across the country from each other, I would refresh your memory about how button mashers rarely win against skilled players in SC. Your faulty, selective memory.

Mr.Condescension

08-15-2006, 12:03 PM

Are you effin' kidding me? What do you think Zelda is? That game alone'll sell systems. I'd have to say the rest of the list rounds out pretty nicely, as well.

Zelda is not a system seller because it's available on the GC with basically everything, including the graphics, intact. Anyone who is picking up Zelda at launch for the Wii had already decided to buy a Wii, otherwise they would pick up the GC version. Red Steel (*shudder*) is more of a system seller than Zelda, since it's exclusive.

Kamalot

08-15-2006, 12:33 PM

Zelda is not a system seller because it's available on the GC with basically everything, including the graphics, intact. Anyone who is picking up Zelda at launch for the Wii had already decided to buy a Wii, otherwise they would pick up the GC version. Red Steel (*shudder*) is more of a system seller than Zelda, since it's exclusive.
I suppose there is also Metroid Prime 3 as well. So if EXCLUSIVES are the only things that clasify as system sellers, how many system sellers are there on the list of 27 games?

Would exclusive control scheme be considered exclusive enough to be a system seller?

Mr.Condescension

08-15-2006, 12:44 PM

Would exclusive control scheme be considered exclusive enough to be a system seller?

It could very much be listed as a system seller, as could blu-ray for the PS3, live and live arcade for the Xbox 360, etc.

I think, though, that what Evil says is mostly true...there is no Halo/FF/MGS/Mario type killer app in the launch line-up. I don't personally see a problem with that. It's in line with every other launch to date.

Kamalot

08-15-2006, 01:16 PM

It could very much be listed as a system seller, as could blu-ray for the PS3, live and live arcade for the Xbox 360, etc.
The way I see it, control scheme directly relates to gameplay. Live relates to gameplay to a lesser extent, also crossing over into demos and videos, but online play and the ability to download demos offer a fair bit to videogaming. Bluray, not so much. Aside from the potential to build a large streaming world, there isn't much Bluray offers gaming. Sure, it can be used as a bullet-point on a sales sheet, but one that has little-to-no impact on gaming.

gspot

08-15-2006, 07:03 PM

Wrong again, you were arguing with Kamalot that Naruto is more fun for beginners, and rewards veteran players more.

Anyways, despite it's appearances, this is not a debate. It's not a debate, because you did not play Naruto, so you could not possibly know the pros and cons compared to soul caliber. So anything I say about Naruto could be entirley made up jibbery-joo as far as you know.

Remeber that time I said that? Oh man, good times.

And, you clearly did not spend as much time learning SC as you did Naturo.

I spent about 2 weeks learning Naruto just as I did SC. I liked Naruto, so I decided to keep playing Naruto after I learned the game. I learned SC in pretty much the exact same timeframe, decided I would not play it enough in the future, and got my money back.

If only we did not live across the country from each other, I would refresh your memory about how button mashers rarely win against skilled players in SC. Your faulty, selective memory.

bring it on fucker, I will button mash the shit out of you! (in this case, "...the shit out of you" means win 2 out of every 5 games)

thecrazyd

08-15-2006, 07:11 PM

Remeber that time I said that? Oh man, good times.
I am sure you think you have a point there... but you really don't. At all.
I spent about 2 weeks learning Naruto just as I did SC. I liked Naruto, so I decided to keep playing Naruto after I learned the game. I learned SC in pretty much the exact same timeframe, decided I would not play it enough in the future, and got my money back.
So, after two weeks of Naruto, you said, "That's it, I am done learning. I will continue to play, but will learn nothing from it, and will progress in my skill NO FURTHER."
bring it on fucker, I will button mash the shit out of you! (in this case, "...the shit out of you" means win 2 out of every 5 games)
If by 2 out of 5, you mean 1 out of 7, then maybe. MAYBE.