Street Fighter II The Fastest Selling XBLA Game

[bapenguin]

Capcom (http://www.capcom.com/) didn't think it was too early to brag (http://www.capcom.com/news/news.xpml?prid=700059) about the popularity of Street Fighter II' Hyperfighting (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/s/streetfighter2livearcadexbox360/default.htm).Within the first 24 hours of it’s unveiling, Street Fighter II’ Hyper Fighting has become the fastest selling Xbox Live Arcade title to date with hundreds of matches being played every hour. Street Fighter II’ Hyper Fighting’s overwhelming success can be attributed not only to its arcade roots but also its timeless gameplay. Thousands of users continue to flock online to purchase the game with the hopes of proving who truly is the world’s best street fighter. The ultimate retro gaming experience is now available worldwide for download on Xbox Live Arcade for 800 Microsoft Points.

I'm hooked on the online play, but the offline play is ridiculously difficult.

[Bishop]

Another waste of 800 points!

[TrackZero]

I found the offline play much harder than I remembered as well. But I found it's merely a matter of re-learning which moves/tactics work best against any given fighter, and the matches become far easier.

[agentgray]

I didn't buy it. Why? Because of that difficulty.

I used to be able to go straight through the game while getting perfects on most of the characters.

Soooo...I download the demo, select Ryu, and pretty much watch as the other Ryu scores two perfects on me. Oh, I was doing all the combos and moves, but the AI was just a little quicker than I remember.

I go to a buddie's house to play it on Live. I hand off some victories to some people. Ok, good. Skills still there. I pop in my SNES, play a couple of rounds. SKills still there. What the heck is up with the Live single-player game?

[Expugnare]

I didn't buy it either because of the difficulty. I remember being able to actually play decently against the AI. In the XBLA version I got a measly 1 hot on Ryu before he had juggled me rapidly and kill me.

[Food Nipple]

I didn't buy it. Why? Because of that difficulty.

I used to be able to go straight through the game while getting perfects on most of the characters.

Soooo...I download the demo, select Ryu, and pretty much watch as the other Ryu scores two perfects on me. Oh, I was doing all the combos and moves, but the AI was just a little quicker than I remember.

I go to a buddie's house to play it on Live. I hand off some victories to some people. Ok, good. Skills still there. I pop in my SNES, play a couple of rounds. SKills still there. What the heck is up with the Live single-player game?

The game is a port of the arcade version not the SNES port with dumbed down AI.

[Switcher]

Greeeeatttt Capcom....GREAT.

Now that you can PLAINLY see there's a market for this whole "fighting game" thing you've invented, you can get off your retarded asses and make Street Fighter 4!!!


Douchebags.

[agentgray]

The game is a port of the arcade version not the SNES port with dumbed down AI.
I should have been more descriptive of my SFII history. The SNES version was the only other available copy I had to test with. Maybe I should load up MAME...

Capcom got plenty of quarters from me in the past. (Man, remember when it was just a quarter or two?)

[Kelegacy]

I was disappointed. I didn't realize how hard it would be with the 360 controller, which I deem one of the best controllers ever made. Oh well.

I bought Table Tennis today though. I love it. I don't know why I mentioned that, but I'm drunk.

[gzsfrk]

I could -never- beat the arcade version, while I was quite capable playing the SNES port. There was definitely a difficulty disparity between the two, so perhaps that's part of the reason for the perceived increase in difficulty.

Other than that, I remember reading in a review that the speed seemed to be a tad higher than the arcade original, so perhaps that's a factor as well?

Lastly, the only other thing that occurs to me is the controller. When playing Capcom fighters, using a D-pad (especially a subpar one as all released since the SNES seem to have been, imo) increases the difficulty quite a bit compared to a good arcade stick. Has anyone tried playing wit the DoA4 Arcade Fighting Stick controller yet?

[Savok]

I was disappointed. I didn't realize how hard it would be with the 360 controller, which I deem one of the best controllers ever made. Oh well.
I had the same problem, the 360 controller just sucks for the game. Remapping the controls so you take the important shit off those god damn back triggers helped a lot though.

[gmub]

i think the game has the right dificulty, i prefere this than finishin it in half an hour

[Orosco]

I had some jerkoff disconnect after I beat him in a ranked match, right after I won the third round, got timed out and didn't get the credit. I checked the recently played gamertag list, but whoever it was, they wern't listed, just the previous two who I had played just before.
That really rubbed my rhubarb.

[rein]

... but I'm drunk.

Aren't we all? To be even more off topic, I turn 41 tomorrow. Fucking 41 and I got carded tonight. It's like I have the brain of a 8 year old and the body of a 20 year old... ...or is it the other way around? Either way, I will never get old. :)

Rockstars Table Tennis is pretty cool but it gets a bit repetititititve.

Oh, and I hate Street Fighter. MK4Life. :D

[geckokidd]

I had some jerkoff disconnect after I beat him in a ranked match, right after I won the third round, got timed out and didn't get the credit. I checked the recently played gamertag list, but whoever it was, they wern't listed, just the previous two who I had played just before.
That really rubbed my rhubarb.

That has happened to me about 5 times. It is really starting to piss me off too. God forbid you get a loss on your account. Pussies!!

[pheriannath]

To the people saying the arcade is harder...

..As someone who owns several arcade machines, I can testify to the fact that there are selectable difficulty options on pretty much any machine, ESPECIALLY fighting games. Some of you played with cranked up difficulty and others played with easy-mode. It all depended on what your local arcade boss decided was best: keep people on the machines, or force them to keep pumping quarters.

[fahrvergnugen]

The xbox 360 version lets you adjust the difficulty slider. I have no idea how I'll ever score a perfect match on 3 stars difficulty, it's insane how good the CPU player is.

[Kelegacy]

Aren't we all? To be even more off topic, I turn 41 tomorrow. Fucking 41 and I got carded tonight. It's like I have the brain of a 8 year old and the body of a 20 year old... ...or is it the other way around? Either way, I will never get old. :)

Rockstars Table Tennis is pretty cool but it gets a bit repetititititve.

Oh, and I hate Street Fighter. MK4Life. :D
Age is nothing. Who gives a shit? You are only as young as you feel/act. I act like I'm 18. I'm really 25. Don't tell anyone.

But now that you admitted you are 41, I'm taking you off my Xbox Live buddy list. 41 years olds talking to 25 year old boys are creepy as fuck.

Kidding. And I AM drunk. Long Trail for life! I also stole 4 large Utz bags of assorted chips and one large cylinder of Pub Mix before I left the party. Shoved them in my cooler and ran to my friend's car. Everyone had his/her own bag of chips on the ride home and crunched away happily. Kelegacy comes through again. :)

[Schnoogs]

[but the offline play is ridiculously difficult.

Aint that the truth. When I was a kid I could breeze through the SNES version at the default setting...often beating it without losing a round.


This 360 version has been busting my balls! Finally made it to Sagat after numerous tries.

[Lekon]

About difficulty. I picked up a rom of Hyperfighting, to test it out. Xbox 360 at zero stars seemed rougher than arcade at 6 stars.


Arcade at full stars was just insane, actually harder than X360 at full stars.

I wouldn't mind It being hard, or challenging, but the computer is just bloody cheap most of the time, Zangeif Always lands a spinning piledriver the second he's in range of you, even through your own moves.

[Johan]

Aren't we all? To be even more off topic, I turn 41 tomorrow. Fucking 41 and I got carded tonight. It's like I have the brain of a 8 year old and the body of a 20 year old... ...or is it the other way around? Either way, I will never get old. :)

Rockstars Table Tennis is pretty cool but it gets a bit repetititititve.

Oh, and I hate Street Fighter. MK4Life. :D

Hey man, happy birthday! I'm 39...not in the fourth decade yet, but will be soon ;)

[Deadend]

Oh, and I hate Street Fighter. MK4Life.
Go play an old Mortal Kombat game NOW, then come back and say it again with a straight face, unless you were kidding.

So, I have heard that Capcom kinda 1/2 assed the port of their 15 year old arcade game, true?

[f1sh3r]

To the people saying the arcade is harder...

..As someone who owns several arcade machines, I can testify to the fact that there are selectable difficulty options on pretty much any machine, ESPECIALLY fighting games. Some of you played with cranked up difficulty and others played with easy-mode. It all depended on what your local arcade boss decided was best: keep people on the machines, or force them to keep pumping quarters.

i turned the difficulty as low as it goes on the xbl version and i can still only get so far in the game before the AI goes hyper mode and becomes frustratingly mad to fight against.

[f1sh3r]

The xbox 360 version lets you adjust the difficulty slider. I have no idea how I'll ever score a perfect match on 3 stars difficulty, it's insane how good the CPU player is.

i managed one perfect round, then had the computer come back and score 2 perfects in a row on me. i guess it doesn't like losing. one of the gamerscore unlocks is for beating the game on 7 stars, i can't even imagine.

[Kefkataran]

Got this last night and played a few games to remind myself just how badly I suck at fighting games. Still managed a couple online wins though. I fear the offline is a lost cause. We'll see.

[aversion2k]

I was always a mortal kombat fan

[blackzc]

So is there a way to put a X arcade stick on the 360?....

[EternalGamer]

Age is nothing. Who gives a shit? You are only as young as you feel/act. I act like I'm 18. I'm really 25. Don't tell anyone.

But now that you admitted you are 41, I'm taking you off my Xbox Live buddy list. 41 years olds talking to 25 year old boys are creepy as fuck.

Kidding. And I AM drunk. Long Trail for life! I also stole 4 large Utz bags of assorted chips and one large cylinder of Pub Mix before I left the party. Shoved them in my cooler and ran to my friend's car. Everyone had his/her own bag of chips on the ride home and crunched away happily. Kelegacy comes through again. :)


If you think age doesn't matter, just give it a few more years before the reality of how transient life is to set in and how impossible it is to ever return.

Also if you think drunk is bad you should try other. Other is what I am. It's when your friend show you a Pie symbol with a parenthesis under it and tell you it is "Pie man" because they think it is clever. But it's really not that clever because you can put anything over the top of a parenthesis and it would look like a smilely face. That is all my friend. Say no more! To your room Doestovsky. Math is hard, we should jump rope today.

[InvaderScooge]

Did any of you ever beat the SNES on the hardest setting without losing a round to get that special art background after the ending? If so, how does the difficulty compare? Sounds like a lot of you always played it on easy mode :)

[Draknodred]

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's hard. Granted I haven't played SF2 in ages, but godamn I felt like a noob after playing arcade the first few times. The computer owns me =\ Once I pull myself away from the Dead Rising Demo I'll try some more online play =)

[TrackZero]

I had the same problem, the 360 controller just sucks for the game. Remapping the controls so you take the important shit off those god damn back triggers helped a lot though.

I had no problem with the back trigger for my kick, only some annoyance with the heavy punch, which was easily remapped.

[TrackZero]

Did any of you ever beat the SNES on the hardest setting without losing a round to get that special art background after the ending? If so, how does the difficulty compare? Sounds like a lot of you always played it on easy mode :)

No, I used to beat the SNES version on hard. (Which usually still only made Vega a challenge.) But this isn't the SNES version, they don't compare.

Honestly though, I think I like this version better. I'd be disappointed if this was easy as the SNES one.

[TrackZero]

I wouldn't mind It being hard, or challenging, but the computer is just bloody cheap most of the time, Zangeif Always lands a spinning piledriver the second he's in range of you, even through your own moves.

True, I noticed that. But you just have to alter your tactics to never let him get close to you. Lots of jump attacks and fireballs usually make short work of him, just never let him back you into the corner.

[pseudopseudo]

True, I noticed that. But you just have to alter your tactics to never let him get close to you. Lots of jump attacks and fireballs usually make short work of him, just never let him back you into the corner.
Oh my God, check that... this game takes STRATEGY to beat!

Looks like Capcom's smarter than they seem after all. ;)

[Draft]

Why don't you bitches like learn a combo or whatever and win.

[crashedout]

There is a huge difference in the cpu using AI and being cheap. If the game is using moves without the same delays that the player is subject to, that is poor. I have to try this to see what is up.

[Bumbuliuz]

Like so many I tried the demo got beaten silly by the AI and decided I didnt want another frustration like I had with Doa4. And 800 points is too much for this title.

[Bydo_Empire]

I always preferred a good d-pad to an arcade stick, it was just easier on my hands and wrists. AI difficulty aside, I can't pull off moves reliably with the 360 dpad. That sucks. Street Fighter has really tight control, and this version doesn't do it to me. It's not AI problems, it's not being able to translate thought into action, which SF normally does exceedingly well.

[TrackZero]

There is a huge difference in the cpu using AI and being cheap. If the game is using moves without the same delays that the player is subject to, that is poor. I have to try this to see what is up.

I was always under the impression that Zangeif can do grabs instantly, whether the computer is playing him or a person. It was part of his design. Though I may be mistaken.

[TrackZero]

I always preferred a good d-pad to an arcade stick, it was just easier on my hands and wrists. AI difficulty aside, I can't pull off moves reliably with the 360 dpad. That sucks. Street Fighter has really tight control, and this version doesn't do it to me. It's not AI problems, it's not being able to translate thought into action, which SF normally does exceedingly well.

I've heard that about the d-pad. Personally, I use the analog stick and don't have any problems kicking ass.

[Schnoogs]

Why don't you bitches like learn a combo or whatever and win.

I actually know numerous combos and historically I'm use to whooping peoples ass at this game. But even I've found the AI to be surprisingly difficult even at the eastiest setting.

It almost seems like a bug...like the difficulty setting slider doesnt really change anything.

[Draft]

I was always under the impression that Zangeif can do grabs instantly, whether the computer is playing him or a person. It was part of his design. Though I may be mistaken.Well, the move is "instant" in that it happens as soon as you perform the required input. The reason it seems "cheap" when the computer does it is the 360 motion can be hard to pull off, so actual humans tend to fuck it up.

Playing a pro Zangeif player can be a nightmare.

[DeathtollWRX]

Oh god, So I'm hovering in the top 50-90. I run into the second ranked player and he just used to M bison to fly from one end to the other. Yeah I get in a few hits here and there but it's sad that the 2 nd ranked player plays so "cheaply" I don't mind losing to a tougher character to use (guile Dhalsim Zang) but wow I was let down.

[Schnoogs]

Oh god, So I'm hovering in the top 50-90. I run into the second ranked player and he just used to M bison to fly from one end to the other. Yeah I get in a few hits here and there but it's sad that the 2 nd ranked player plays so "cheaply" I don't mind losing to a tougher character to use (guile Dhalsim Zang) but wow I was let down.

Whatever works.

[DeathtollWRX]

Whatever works.


You could say that. Then some people would never lose. whatever works consists of turning off your xbox after a loss so it doesn't count against you. I guess that works as well. Half of the people in the top 100 do that.

[Johan]

Also if you think drunk is bad you should try other. Other is what I am. It's when your friend show you a Pie symbol with a parenthesis under it and tell you it is "Pie man" because they think it is clever. But it's really not that clever because you can put anything over the top of a parenthesis and it would look like a smilely face. That is all my friend. Say no more! To your room Doestovsky. Math is hard, we should jump rope today.

I have absolutely NO idea what this means :eek:

EternalGamer...wow, man ;)

And, did you mean Dostoevsky?

[Schnoogs]

You could say that. Then some people would never lose. whatever works consists of turning off your xbox after a loss so it doesn't count against you. I guess that works as well. Half of the people in the top 100 do that.


That's two different things...one is poor sportsmanship the other is a strategy that relies on carefully chosen moves that is repeatable and is proven to win.

Who are you to determine what set of moves is cheap and what isnt? Capcom chose to include those moves for M. Bison. It's a game..the goal is to win and clearly this player has found a reliable means of doing so that doesnt involve poor sportsmanship.

I like to use Ryu's fireballs...is that cheap????

[Mortis]

The lag online is pathetic. How the fuck can I host 3 or 4 games in a row with no lag and then the next 3 are absolute slideshows? After one or two lag plagued games I simply can't force myself to play it anymore for the rest of the day.

[Varsity]

I've now given up trying to photoshop (well, GIMP) this into a spoof on SF2. I'd love to see someone with actual talent give it a whirl though!

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/976/mosspunchupny8.jpg

[Morangie]

You could say that. Then some people would never lose. whatever works consists of turning off your xbox after a loss so it doesn't count against you. I guess that works as well. Half of the people in the top 100 do that.

There is a difference between using one move over and over and cheating. Seriously, how badly do you suck if you knew exactly what he was going to do and still lost? Read this (http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm), learn, move on.

[bapenguin]

The lag online is pathetic. How the fuck can I host 3 or 4 games in a row with no lag and then the next 3 are absolute slideshows? After one or two lag plagued games I simply can't force myself to play it anymore for the rest of the day.

That's really weird. I just completed 50 some ranked matches...I think 2 had lag. I've been really impressed with the netcode.

[Orosco]

I've now given up trying to photoshop (well, GIMP) this into a spoof on SF2. I'd love to see someone with actual talent give it a whirl though!

Dr. Mossman is a total MILF.

[f1sh3r]

That's two different things...one is poor sportsmanship the other is a strategy that relies on carefully chosen moves that is repeatable and is proven to win.

Who are you to determine what set of moves is cheap and what isnt? Capcom chose to include those moves for M. Bison. It's a game..the goal is to win and clearly this player has found a reliable means of doing so that doesnt involve poor sportsmanship.

I like to use Ryu's fireballs...is that cheap????

that was considered cheap back when this game was new in the arcade. doubt much has changed much, but whatever makes you feel better.

[DeathtollWRX]

There is a difference between using one move over and over and cheating. Seriously, how badly do you suck if you knew exactly what he was going to do and still lost? Read this (http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/), learn, move on.


The whole point I was trying to make was I wished that when I played a top ranked player, he or she would be using advanced combinations and difficult techniques to win. When I got to battle one of the better players it ended up being a dissappointment because it was a matter of charging back and forth across the screen. I never said he was cheating. The same guy played me again and when I defeated him he disconnected on me.. I consider that cheating. At the end of the day he has one more victory over a higher ranked player and I do not.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

You could say that. Then some people would never lose. whatever works consists of turning off your xbox after a loss so it doesn't count against you. I guess that works as well. Half of the people in the top 100 do that.


Shit like that is why I don't play online and may still not get a 360. The main appeal of the system is the online play, and asshats like that just ruin it. They make up a large percentage of the players too.

[Mortis]

That's really weird. I just completed 50 some ranked matches...I think 2 had lag. I've been really impressed with the netcode.

The same thing (the lag) happens to me everyday, I just figured it was the norm. Sometimes it actually lags/slows down in the character selection screen also, after that the match is either fine or it's a slideshow. I have no idea why it's so inconsistent. I've even rebooted the 360 thinking it was some weird issue with mine.

[TrackZero]

The whole point I was trying to make was I wished that when I played a top ranked player, he or she would be using advanced combinations and difficult techniques to win. When I got to battle one of the better players it ended up being a dissappointment because it was a matter of charging back and forth across the screen. I never said he was cheating. The same guy played me again and when I defeated him he disconnected on me.. I consider that cheating. At the end of the day he has one more victory over a higher ranked player and I do not.

What he used was a "wall", you would have gotten to his more advanced techniques had you shown you could counter it.

[dena miscreant]

What he used was a "wall", you would have gotten to his more advanced techniques had you shown you could counter it.

True that. Play against the computer on 7 stars and see how far you get. You will most likely find that it is 10x harder than most online fighters.

[DeathtollWRX]

Well I used my 800 gamerpoints and I knew that kind of thing would happen oh well. Might as well smoke the cigar I bought. Hopefully some of the newer fighting games (where the characters are moer fleshed out) will come out. SNK VS CAPCOM and the Alpha series would be great additions. Oh and about the wall... Like I said I beat the guy a few times before ( he used the same guy) but each time I beat him he just disconnected. I guess there will always be grief players. I've had my fair share of Halo 2 matches and there will be probably be more bad sports in Halo 3. I might just head back to PC gaming where at least there is punkbuster and protected servers. I'm starting to regret my 360 purchase. The only game i've really enjoyed was Oblivion (which I could have bought on my computer) and Halo2 (which is an Xbox game)

[DeathtollWRX]

ARGH, I just beat the number 1 ranked played Jorge Avila and he disconnected on me after the match! He used M bison. =( Someone please add a patch that counts disconnects.


update
I beat him three times in a row. even though I've added him as a player to avoid it still pits me against him and he stills disconnects after every loss =(

[Achilles]

ARGH, I just beat the number 1 ranked played Jorge Avila and he disconnected on me after the match! He used M bison. =( Someone please add a patch that counts disconnects.


update
I beat him three times in a row. even though I've added him as a player to avoid it still pits me against him and he stills disconnects after every loss =(I see a lot of negative feedback coming out of this game for the high-ranked players. See if you can get them down to 0 stars :P

[Tharsis]

List those SOBs here - can we all leave them negative feedback, even if we haven't played against them?

[Jack B]

Shit like that is why I don't play online and may still not get a 360. The main appeal of the system is the online play, and asshats like that just ruin it. They make up a large percentage of the players too.

It only matters if you care about your ranking.... You and the player you played know who's better. You could just be happy with that...

I do agree, it is annoying, but if you play friends, then it doesn't matter. Bragging rights are only really attained with your one on one with friends.

If you forget about rankings and play for fun, then it won't matter so much anymore. If it really matters, then you'll probably get pretty ticked off when it happens. I don't know how often, but I'd imagine it's not that often, but I haven't played so what do I know.

Many leaderboards on Live have players who are at the very top because of one thing or another that isn't quite right. Often the ones at the top get a reputation and people do eventually figure out who are really the best. I'm typically so far from the top it really doesn't matter that much.

In Chromehounds we get a team who disconnects after they've lost every 10th match or so. We give them bad feedback and move on. We know we won. The game is so much fun, we just consider it an occupational hazard...

[Kefkataran]

It only matters if you care about your ranking.... You and the player you played know who's better. You could just be happy with that...

I do agree, it is annoying, but if you play friends, then it doesn't matter. Bragging rights are only really attained with your one on one with friends.

That's somewhat true, but it also completely ruins the point of having a ranking system in the first place. If Microsoft and/or Capcom (whoever is in charge of how the leader boards work for SF2) aren't going to fix something like this, they shouldn't even put the rankings in in the first place. I agree about not letting affect your enjoyment, but it's still something major that they need to be fixing.

[ElPresidente]

Glad to see I'm not the only person finding the single player difficult.

And yes, the D-pad is awful for the game so I was happy to see remapping options so I could use my Hori stick.

Haven't tried online yet. May do that after work tonight.

[Jack B]

That's somewhat true, but it also completely ruins the point of having a ranking system in the first place. If Microsoft and/or Capcom (whoever is in charge of how the leader boards work for SF2) aren't going to fix something like this, they shouldn't even put the rankings in in the first place. I agree about not letting affect your enjoyment, but it's still something major that they need to be fixing.

I agree they should stop disconnects somehow, but disconnects "after" a match only matter for ranking purposes. It doesn't effect gameplay at all.

I've never disconnected and never will, but if someone else does it doesn't matter to me unless rankings count. We give bad feedback in Chromehounds and just move on to the next match, but we're not going to quit the game because of it. Wish it were fixed, but it's not. Some people care more than others and will use that cheat. It's done in about 10% of the Chromehounds matches. Kind of an occupational hazard, I suppose.

In NBA 2k6, you can't achieve a rank from a match if you or your opponent is below 75% in reputation. A developer could also track disconnects and if limit ranked match players to people who only had an allowable percentage... There are many creative ways that could be employed to stop or limit disconnects. It's a shame that more companies don't penalize disconnecting. :(

Magnanimous Gnome said, Shit like that is why I don't play online and may still not get a 360.
I know it can be frustrating, but using that logic, you wouldn't buy a 360 or PS3 or Wii unless it had an online leaderboard, because without online leaderboard it wouldn't matter if someone disconnected "after" the match or not.

We've had fun with video games for 30 years without online leaderboards at all. I'm not going to let a few cheaters spoil my fun.

[Kefkataran]

I agree they should stop disconnects somehow, but disconnects "after" a match only matter for ranking purposes. It doesn't effect gameplay at all.

But ranking IS part of the game. Again, I get that it doesn't matter to you, and I agree that you shouldn't let worrying about ranking ruin your gameplaying experience. But if they're going to put it in the game, they should do it right and work to fix bugs like this. Rank does matter to some people, and since they put it in the game as a feature, it SHOULD.

[Jack B]

But ranking IS part of the game. Again, I get that it doesn't matter to you, and I agree that you shouldn't let worrying about ranking ruin your gameplaying experience. But if they're going to put it in the game, they should do it right and work to fix bugs like this. Rank does matter to some people, and since they put it in the game as a feature, it SHOULD.

It seems your replies to my original post seem to hint that I don't agree with you. I keep saying and agreeing that...

1. It does matter to some people
2. It is part of the game
3. It should be corrected
4. I don't like it either

I'm just promoting the notion, that cheaters on a leaderboard disconnecting "after" a match, should be put in perspective. If they disconnect "during" a match, that's different. Disconnecting after, only effects the rankings on a leaderboard, not the actual match itself.

We've played for decades without online leaderboards. There is much more "fun" to be had with 360 or a game than a rank on a leaderboard. Not buying a 360, PS3 or Wii, because someone can cheat on a leaderboard seems like an over reaction to me.

[Kefkataran]

I'm just promoting the notion, that cheaters on a leaderboard disconnecting "after" a match, should be put in perspective. If they disconnect "during" a match, that's different. Disconnecting after, only effects the rankings on a leaderboard, not the actual match itself.

And again, if the rankings are important to you, which they are and should be to some people as part of the game, then this DOES affect your game.


We've played for decades without online leaderboards. There is much more "fun" to be had with 360 or a game than a rank on a leaderboard. Not buying a 360, PS3 or Wii, because someone can cheat on a leaderboard seems like an over reaction to me.

I agree. It is an overreaction. But it's still a major problem too.

[Jack B]

And again, if the rankings are important to you, which they are and should be to some people as part of the game, then this DOES affect your game.



I agree. It is an overreaction. But it's still a major problem too.


Agreed. I wouldn't think it would be that hard for a developer to fix... :(

I've just given up on perfection. There is always something missing.... Even games I love have 20 things I'd like to see changed. I'm always dreaming of the 'next' new and improved version...

I was reading on the Forza 2 blog, how the developers were really thinking hard about bump drafting chains for lap times and/or allowing drafting at all for best times. Nice to see, them concerned. Hope they come up with something decent. At least they care! :)

[Kefkataran]

I would guess a SF2 patch to fix it will be coming eventually. Or, well, I'd hope so.

[Achilles]

I would guess a SF2 patch to fix it will be coming eventually. Or, well, I'd hope so.I think DOA4 tracks disconnects. That would seem to be the simplest fix for the problem. Personally I'd make it so that if you disconnect you lose the match, but I'm a bit iron-fisted about cheating.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I really don't care about leader boards - that isn't why this bothers me. It bothers me because it's cheating and childish, and those things seem to be too common on Xbox Live. I've only used it a few times myself (at a friend's house) and ran into plenty of immature players (fag, etc.) and cheaters. I also see complaints about it on here pretty often.

It might affect my purchase of a 360 simply because I want the console mainly for online play. I'd kind of forgotten about all the name-callers and griefers, but this thread reminded me of that. Hence why I might rethink that 360 purchase. I'll just have to give it some thought and decide how much this kind of thing would frustrate me.

It wouldn't affect my purchase of a Wii because I'll be buying that system for single player games and maybe some party gaming in the same room. I doubt I'll be using it online much, at least not for a while. I'm mainly interested in the Nintendo franchises, and so far none of those are games I want to take online.


Edit - Hope that clarifies what I was trying to say in my earlier post.

[Johan]

I think DOA4 tracks disconnects. That would seem to be the simplest fix for the problem. Personally I'd make it so that if you disconnect you lose the match, but I'm a bit iron-fisted about cheating.

I'm with that...regardless of reason, if you disconnect, then......WHAM, you lose.

Simplest solution to discourage that crap. I wish they had done something similar with Halo 2 (quitters should lose a level or two every time. Then they'll all match up at the bottom ;) ).

[DeathtollWRX]

I think my problem is that I am too competative. Oh well I do kind of like the fact that I can beat him. I was posting right after the incidident so I was still a little pissed off. Anyway I'm past 250 online matches and I think I got my money's worth

It only matters if you care about your ranking.... You and the player you played know who's better. You could just be happy with that...

I do agree, it is annoying, but if you play friends, then it doesn't matter. Bragging rights are only really attained with your one on one with friends.

If you forget about rankings and play for fun, then it won't matter so much anymore. If it really matters, then you'll probably get pretty ticked off when it happens. I don't know how often, but I'd imagine it's not that often, but I haven't played so what do I know.

Many leaderboards on Live have players who are at the very top because of one thing or another that isn't quite right. Often the ones at the top get a reputation and people do eventually figure out who are really the best. I'm typically so far from the top it really doesn't matter that much.

In Chromehounds we get a team who disconnects after they've lost every 10th match or so. We give them bad feedback and move on. We know we won. The game is so much fun, we just consider it an occupational hazard...

[Schnoogs]

I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS GAME!!

First off I'm a huge Street Fighter fan. I use to play the SNES version every second of the day. I picked up the 3DO version...the PS2...the Dreamcast...you name it. I've been looking forward to the 360 version since the first day they announced it.

Well after having played it for a week all I can say is...

"WHO IN THE NAME OF HELL PROGRAMMED THE DIFFICULTY SETTINGS FOR THIS GAME!!!!"

I would love to meet the mofo at Capcom in charge of difficulty. I nearly lost it tonight and almost sent my controller through the window. I was playing on the lowest setting and in my 3rd fight again Blanka he was unleashing 3 and 4 hit combos back to back.

THREE AND FOUR HIT COMBOS ON EASIEST DIFFICULTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What in gods name goes on during the hardest difficulty?!??!? 50 hit Killer Instinct combos?!?!?!?!

Thanks Capcom for completely f'ing up this game and taking my $10. How do you screw that up??! Time to fire up my SNES emulator. ;)