Dead Rising Demo: Live!

[Lekon]

Go forth, slaugher zombies, raid the mall, storm the castle!

Well, not that last one, but its up, its downloading now, and its availble for UK and US residents. According to Major Nelson it's not available in Mexico, Germany, Australia, New Zealand or Asia.

Details (http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/08/04/Dead-Rising-Demo.aspx) of demo are here and it weighs in at almost 1 gig.

Editor's Note: Thanks to soco and Norse for similiar submissions.

[NinjaSverre]

YES HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! I hate being at work when things like this happens but thank god we have the XBOX360 Kiosk/demo stand thingy here.

[Vandenh]

Woot! This should be in the news section.

[CapnBob]

Downloading right now

[soco]

i wrote a new submission a bit back, but i'm not sure where they go to be authorized or whatever.

[Tricky Thumb]

Aw hell yes!

I hope it'll let me roam aimlessly so I can play it for a day or two to sate my Dead Rising itch.

[soco]

people elsewhere are saying it's just time limited to 15 minutes.

[Tricky Thumb]

people elsewhere are saying it's just time limited to 15 minutes.

Well that figures, I guess I'll just be restarting it a lot then.

[Lekon]

Heh. only 15 minutes? Drat... Well, I too will be doing a lot of restarts! 20% now. Just wish I could get it downloaded faster.

To our friends in German/Austraila/etc, just setup an American login with a free silver account, and login through it on your 360, there are plenty of online guides to setting them up.

[phantomhitman]

i canot wait unitl i get home and cannot dl it due to a gillion other people dling it.

[Savok]

What the fuck? WHAT THE GOD DAMN FUCK?

The WHOLE POINT of online is that location really doesn't matter, why THE FUCK don't I have this? What fuckwit genius took his daily dose of peroxide for this piece of inspiration? I want a fucking name.

We get the full version later, I get that, you need to make it, ship it, all that shit. This is toggling a fucking flag on a file at most, there is no real reason on this Earth that myself and other Aussies/Kiwis so on shouldn't have access to this.

[JudasGoat]

Man, just make a US gamertag and log in with that, it will be available for you (should be).

In other news: "I KICK ASS FOR THE LORD!"

[Savok]

Checking the link's link, apparntly it's our laws or regulations or some shit. I really don't see how it's their business since the demos are not being sold. I can go right now, and find a picture of a girl fucking a horse in about 20 seconds, download it to my PC and enjoy it, yet a game demo is suddenly a no no. Bullshit, they don't want Aussies dragging down their severs.

[Reanimated]

Try calming the fuck down and creating a UK or US gamertag. There are instructions all over the place on how to do this. I have Japanese and German tags and have tons of content from those regions.

[soco]

i'm sure it's not about aussies dragging down the servers as australia is still a somewhat small market for them. i think it's probably to play it safe since in the case of the marketplace it's connected to a device that's targetted at children. vote for some new politicians next time around.


anyway, back on topic, anyone got the demo yet? how is it? the EGM review numbers weren't so spectacular. :( god i wish work would fire me or something so i could go home and play :D

[Savok]

I shouldn't fucking have to is the point, why the fuck should I have circumvent their rules just to get something I should already have access to?

And what happens when they start cracking down on the smallest shit like Blizzard does?

[Savok]

i'm sure it's not about aussies dragging down the servers as australia is still a somewhat small market for them. i think it's probably to play it safe since in the case of the marketplace it's connected to a device that's targetted at children. vote for some new politicians next time around.
I'm looking at the Saint's Row demo right now, I'm surprised it doesn't have several fucks in the title from the beginning.

[Paranoia]

Checking the link's link, apparntly it's our laws or regulations or some shit. I really don't see how it's their business since the demos are not being sold. I can go right now, and find a picture of a girl fucking a horse in about 20 seconds, download it to my PC and enjoy it, yet a game demo is suddenly a no no. Bullshit, they don't want Aussies dragging down their severs.

Blame your government censorship, not MS.

[Reanimated]

I'm looking at the Saint's Row demo right now, I'm surprised it doesn't have several fucks in the title from the beginning.




DR has a lot more gore in it than SR. Most likely the reason you don't have it is due to legal issues with releasing it in your territory. Sorry.

So, I mean, there's 2 things you can do here - continue crying about it like a little girl with a skinned knee, or go create another gamertag and grab the demo.

[Savok]

I've been looking at the instructions, they need a valid address and phone number, it's borderline identity theft.

[BleedTheFreak]

Has anyone tried it yet? Does it seem worth picking up? I'm going to trade in a few games for store credit today at lunch, and I was going to slap my cash down on this one, but I wanted to hear thoughts on the demo first.

Thanks!

[TrackZero]

YES HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! I hate being at work when things like this happens but thank god we have the XBOX360 Kiosk/demo stand thingy here.

You hate it? I just found out about this and now I'm going in for a 12 hour shift, every day all weekend long. Meaning I'll only have a few spare hours in between to check this out!

[MSUStud911]

Does anyone have it yet? I'm at work, so I won't be able to get it for another 8 hours or so. I'd appreciate some impressions. :)

[BleedTheFreak]

Does anyone have it yet? I'm at work, so I won't be able to get it for another 8 hours or so. I'd appreciate some impressions. :)

I found lots of impressions at the gamespot forums for Dead Rising, all of the posts were extremely positive. I didn't read anything negative at all, except how hard the skateboard is and questions on the games ability to maintain it's "fun factor" since we don't get any missions to try out in the demo.

[MrMeatshake]

arrrrrg! i can't WAIT for this! let me outta this work rubbish! i wanna b in front of my 360 right now, playing the saint's row demo while the dead rising one's downloading!!

thank you, MS :)

[Lord Dongkey]

I've been looking at the instructions, they need a valid address and phone number, it's borderline identity theft.

:eek:


I can understand being annoyed about the situation, but unless you're kidding and forgot el' smiley de' sarcasm, that's just plain silly.

Take a deep breath, do what you need to do to get the demo, and get on with life.

[NinjaSverre]

The 30 seconds I played, before a custumer wanted help, was very good. Except boring to death loading times I didn't find anything negative.

[BleedTheFreak]

I saw on a forum that the latest EGW only gives DR a 7.5, 7.0, and 8.0. Not bad scores, but only just above mediocrity. I wonder what caused them to score a game low that everyone is really enjoying the demo for? Length? I heard there are 9 different endings, and would it ever get old to stomp on zombies? Especially since I've learned not all zombies act the same, some run and some shuffle, some are fast and some are big and strong.

Though, that same issue gives N3 a pair of 4.5's and Prey only a 6.5, which seems pretty low for such a fun shooter as Prey is so far (I'm only on level 5 right now).

[Atorak]

In other news: "I KICK ASS FOR THE LORD!"

Wow, was that a Dead Alive quote? Talk about cult classic!

[BrainDrain]

Great!, but dam if I didn't just get to work. :(

[MSUStud911]

I saw on a forum that the latest EGW only gives DR a 7.5, 7.0, and 8.0. Not bad scores, but only just above mediocrity.

Those seem to be pretty good scores to me. I mean damn, an 8.0 is a very good game. They probably dinged it because it has no online component and after awhile I'm sure it gets old killing zombies. But I wouldn't call those scores just about mediocrity. Just because a game doesn't get straight 9.0s doesn't mean it's not a good game.

[BleedTheFreak]

Those seem to be pretty good scores to me. I mean damn, an 8.0 is a very good game. They probably dinged it because it has no online component and after awhile I'm sure it gets old killing zombies. But I wouldn't call those scores just about mediocrity. Just because a game doesn't get straight 9.0s doesn't mean it's not a good game.

The 8 wasn't what really worried me. It was the two 7's that had me scratching my head. If I were to review a game I had a blast playing, it would get more than an 8. As such, when I see a number like 7 (or of course, less) I always assume that it was merely "pretty fun" but not a blast to play. I'm not paying $60 for "pretty fun", is my meaning. I *want* to buy this game, but not if it's like a 5 hour game with no replayability. That's what rentals are for.

[antoniogaud]

The demo seemed fun - although I'm not sure what to do as 'backup for Dan'... anybody have any ideas?

[KidCactus]

The game/demo was quite good, but you can't dive into the story, so pretty much all you do is wander around thrasing zombies. Fun for 15 minutes, but I'm hoping the full version gives me a lot more than that. And I'm sure it will.

Favorite weapon: Electric guitar, for sure!

[KidCactus]

although I'm not sure what to do as 'backup for Dan'... anybody have any ideas?
I have no idea either. Never met anyone called Dan, but maybe that's somewhere after the hillbillies, in the finished version of the game?

[Mortis]

Son of a bitch I'm stuck at work for 7 more hours. Ah well at least I have my vacation days with the retail release next week.

[Serapth]

I saw on a forum that the latest EGW only gives DR a 7.5, 7.0, and 8.0. Not bad scores, but only just above mediocrity. I wonder what caused them to score a game low that everyone is really enjoying the demo for? Length? I heard there are 9 different endings, and would it ever get old to stomp on zombies? Especially since I've learned not all zombies act the same, some run and some shuffle, some are fast and some are big and strong.

Though, that same issue gives N3 a pair of 4.5's and Prey only a 6.5, which seems pretty low for such a fun shooter as Prey is so far (I'm only on level 5 right now).


I have always found EGMs scoring to be pretty damned weak. They are inconsistant as hell. Plus, this is the magazine that rated either Winning 11 or Fifa really poorly, because the reviewer didnt like soccer!!!

[bean19]

The game/demo was quite good, but you can't dive into the story, so pretty much all you do is wander around thrasing zombies. Fun for 15 minutes, but I'm hoping the full version gives me a lot more than that. And I'm sure it will.

Favorite weapon: Electric guitar, for sure!

Yep, pretty much just let's you "test" zombie-thrashing. You can also see two game videos by traveling to either end of the mall. These are the psychos that you get to fight. Very cool stuff.

Zombie-thrashing is satisfying but I think that it is ultimately not what you are supposed to be doing. I think that the game is going to be more about getting through the zombies without fighting them in order to do all the plot points. . . Then, after you've learned the case, it will be all about killing zombies.

They give you really excellent starting weapons. . . extremely violent and fun. It was also a lot of fun to change outfits. :)

Oh, another cool thing is that it looks like OJ is pretty much a life-refill and that you get all that you want as long as you return to that fridge. . . Thus the time management playing a huge part in the gameplay.

I've never been much of a fan of that game dynamic. Having games that are so explorable and awesome but that have a time limit. . . well, they annoy the hell out of me. I want to go off the rails but return to them when I feel like it. . . not feel obligated to follow the main story because not doing so will mean not getting to see it. Screw that.

Also, I think it may have been disabled. . . but I hope that we have at least a little bit of direction about where to go for our next case file. The girl didn't actually give us her gun though, and we were instantly in an area far from the girl, so I suspect that intro video has very little to do with the actual goal of the demo. . . which is pretty crappy construction, but it excels elsewhere, so whatever.

It definitely FEELS like you are in Dawn of the Dead. . . shit-tons of zombies everywhere (not crazy amounts like the hordes of goblins in Ninety-Nine Nights) but still crazy amounts like we've seen in zombie pictures.

Fun stuff. . . I wish the demo had given us a boss fight though. I like being able to learn one boss before a game goes live. . . It's fun to show up and then just beat the hell out of someone because you've owned him in the demo so often. :)

Must buy for me.

[BleedTheFreak]

...this is the magazine that rated either Winning 11 or Fifa really poorly, because the reviewer didnt like soccer!!!

Wow. Just.... wow. That's lame.

[zangster]

I've been looking at the instructions, they need a valid address and phone number, it's borderline identity theft.
By valid address and phone number they mean one that fits the following convention:

1234 Main Street
Baltimore, MD 21236

(410)555-1234

In the above example that is a valid city, state and zip code and telephone area code so that's a good start, make up the rest to fill out the fields. I don't live in Japan or England but making up valid addresses and phone numbers for both was easy enough so I could set-up Live accounts in both regions.

[zangster]

This link (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=mov&id=12169) should give a slightly better feel for how missions will work in the game.

[BleedTheFreak]

Fun stuff. . . I wish the demo had given us a boss fight though. I like being able to learn one boss before a game goes live. . . It's fun to show up and then just beat the hell out of someone because you've owned him in the demo so often. :)

I've always liked that as well, though I really love it when the full version of the game turns the demo on it's ear in some way, so it's not quite like you've done it to death before you get the full game. F.E.A.R. did that too me, the demo areas were not in sequence or in the right places in the full game, and at one point I blew through one room and assumed I knew what was coming up, and got my ass blown away for my assumptions.

[Serapth]

By valid address and phone number they mean one that fits the following convention:

1234 Main Street
Baltimore, MD 21236

(410)555-1234

In the above example that is a valid city, state and zip code and telephone area code so that's a good start, make up the rest to fill out the fields. I don't live in Japan or England but making up valid addresses and phone numbers for both was easy enough so I could set-up Live accounts in both regions.


Oddly enough, when I have to fake a us address online, I always end up being Bob Gore, from Beverly Hills, California... since its the only valid zip code I know.

At least that show proved useful for something.

[bjornbarspingvinen]

Loved the demo, like the sandbox approach, and the cutscenes are sweet....

[Reanimated]

I have always found EGMs scoring to be pretty damned weak. They are inconsistant as hell. Plus, this is the magazine that rated either Winning 11 or Fifa really poorly, because the reviewer didnt like soccer!!!




Seriously. If you want to go by reviews, then at least wait for a source that has at least a little credibility left like Game Informer or Gamespot. Otherwise, just grab the demo and think for yourself.

[Dafizman]

Just finished playing around with it. 3 times through and I've ended with 3 differnet cutscenes, each which clearly lead up to a boss fight of some kind. I'd have to say the best moment was flinging cd cases at a zombies head over and over until they fall down. Different weapons also seem to have slightly different uses, like the sledge hammer can do a wide arc swing if you're holding stlll, but if you're moving at all it does a head pounding smash.

[protocol_image]

Seriously. If you want to go by reviews, then at least wait for a source that has at least a little credibility left like Game Informer or Gamespot. Otherwise, just grab the demo and think for yourself.

I can't even say that I would trust Game Informer. The magazine is created exclusively for GameStop (and now EB). I've definately seen games get higher scores than what I would expect....because they want you to buy games. It's less an unbiased magazine, and more like sales propaganda.

Hah, why does the word propaganda always sound like conspiracy theory? :)

Oh well, I just wish I could go home right now and download that demo! If only Microsoft had given the 360 some sort of "standby" mode, like the Wii has. Then they could add some ability to use our Live accounts from a web browser and remotely have our system download stuff from the marketplace. That is my dream. Somebody make it happen!

[Lekon]

Played through it 3 times already here, and going to do a fourth. Man, these weapons are fun. My favorite is either the shopping cart, the golf club, or the hot skillet. The skillet makes a nice *SSSSS* as you hold it up to a zombies face.

Have to admit, the controls are much nicer than I hoped, there's even a bit of auto aim with the swinging weapons. That and for some of them you really don't need to aim too much.

[Gamefreaks]

Try calming the fuck down and creating a UK or US gamertag. There are instructions all over the place on how to do this. I have Japanese and German tags and have tons of content from those regions.

The point is we shouldn't have to.

[Serapth]

I can't even say that I would trust Game Informer. The magazine is created exclusively for GameStop (and now EB). I've definately seen games get higher scores than what I would expect....because they want you to buy games. It's less an unbiased magazine, and more like sales propaganda.

Hah, why does the word propaganda always sound like conspiracy theory? :)

Oh well, I just wish I could go home right now and download that demo! If only Microsoft had given the 360 some sort of "standby" mode, like the Wii has. Then they could add some ability to use our Live accounts from a web browser and remotely have our system download stuff from the marketplace. That is my dream. Somebody make it happen!


Even with the tie in to EB, I have never really had an issue with Game Informer. The scores seem reasonable, and they will actually nuke a bad game with like 3s or 4s, and reward good games with good scores. I suppose 9+'s tend to be a bit too common, but no worse then any other magazine. My biggest beef would be when the do developer previews for games coming soon, they hype them all to hell. Recently they have done that for Red Steal, Biohazard, GoW, etc... there are normally one or two huge hype pieces. Then again, all magazines are guilty of this too.

As to your second request, Microsoft already announced it. In a nutshell, Live Anywhere will allow you to do exactly what you just requested, and more.

[Serapth]

Played through it 3 times already here, and going to do a fourth. Man, these weapons are fun. My favorite is either the shopping cart, the golf club, or the hot skillet. The skillet makes a nice *SSSSS* as you hold it up to a zombies face.

Have to admit, the controls are much nicer than I hoped, there's even a bit of auto aim with the swinging weapons. That and for some of them you really don't need to aim too much.


Can you go anywhere in the game, or are locations locked out?

[Schnoogs]

I need an excuse to call in sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MUST PLAY THIS GAME!!!!

[bjornbarspingvinen]

A sure buy for me! :) love it, the story seems to be alot more than what the demo shows. And in the gametrailer preview there seems to be alot of different areas....
One must love publishers who put out games like this.

[Reanimated]

The point is we shouldn't have to.


The point is there are legal issues, so you might try crying to your government regulators instead of making ignorant accusations. MS doesn't control where content (other than their own) goes up. The publishers do. There are two factors that will determine if a territory gets something or not - whether or not the PUBLISHER wants it up there, and whether or not there are legal issues getting that particular piece of content up in that territory because of ratings issues.

Hate to be an ass, but this crying every time something comes out is getting ridiculous. Stop wasting your time with the belly aching and use an alternative method of getting what you want, since the belly aching is going to get you nowhere, whereas action will get you the demo.

[protocol_image]

As to your second request, Microsoft already announced it. In a nutshell, Live Anywhere will allow you to do exactly what you just requested, and more.

Listen.....I love you...

[Gamefreaks]

The point is there are legal issues, so you might try crying to your government regulators instead of making ignorant accusations. MS doesn't control where content (other than their own) goes up. The publishers do. There are two factors that will determine if a territory gets something or not - whether or not the PUBLISHER wants it up there, and whether or not there are legal issues getting that particular piece of content up in that territory because of ratings issues.

Hate to be an ass, but this crying every time something comes out is getting ridiculous. Stop wasting your time with the belly aching and use an alternative method of getting what you want, since the belly aching is going to get you nowhere, whereas action will get you the demo.

What you say reeks of ignorance. I know a good deal of americans know as much about the rest of the world as my little finger...but please, you've got the dammed internet at your disposal. Do some goddammed research before you start exporting your lack of knowledge.

[Reanimated]

What you say reeks of ignorance. I know a good deal of americans know as much about the rest of the world as my little finger...but please, you've got the dammed internet at your disposal. Do some goddammed research before you start exporting your lack of knowledge.



How about YOU try doing the research. This has been explained several times:

http://www.majornelson.com/

http://www.majornelson.com/articles/MarketplaceFAQ.aspx

[Kelegacy]

I have always found EGMs scoring to be pretty damned weak. They are inconsistant as hell. Plus, this is the magazine that rated either Winning 11 or Fifa really poorly, because the reviewer didnt like soccer!!!
I agree. EGM has lost lots of credibility for me in the past couple years.

I hope I like Dead Rising. All the site hype has put this game on a pedestal. I can't wait to check it out when I get home from work.

Hey Reanimated, what are the odds this time?

[Lekon]

Can you go anywhere in the game, or are locations locked out?


If you go certian areas, you get a cutscene thats part of the story, also, if you wait too long (20 minutes it seems like actually) You get the day to night cutscene. Any cutscene or your death and the demo's over, but you can restart right after it.

[Reanimated]

I agree. EGM has lost lots of credibility for me in the past couple years.

I hope I like Dead Rising. All the site hype has put this game on a pedestal. I can't wait to check it out when I get home from work.

Hey Reanimated, what are the odds this time?




There are no odds, dude, due to the fact that there is zero variance in your behavior. This isn't like predicting the outcome of the superbowl; this is like predicting the likelihood that the sun will rise tomorrow.

[Bishop]

I shouldn't fucking have to is the point, why the fuck should I have circumvent their rules just to get something I should already have access to?

And what happens when they start cracking down on the smallest shit like Blizzard does?

The same reason why North America had to make a japanese one in order to get the Chromehounds demo. If you want the demo bad enough, stop your whining and make a UK or US one.

[Savok]

That Chromehounds thing was a fucking disgrace in itself.

[Kelegacy]

There are no odds, dude, due to the fact that there is zero variance in your behavior. This isn't like predicting the outcome of the superbowl; this is like predicting the likelihood that the sun will rise tomorrow.
Sure there is. I have heralded quite a few games that I've demoed on Live. Not all of course. If you think I'm always negative towards 360 titles, you haven't been looking for the good with the bad.

[absolut taco]

Wow, was that a Dead Alive quote? Talk about cult classic!
Funny, it was called Braindead in Sweden. Fucking fantastic movie, and I hope there is a handheld lawnmower weapon in DR so I can recreate the "party's over" scene.

[Reanimated]

Sure there is. I have heralded quite a few games that I've demoed on Live. Not all of course. If you think I'm always negative towards 360 titles, you haven't been looking for the good with the bad.



Looking for positive 360 feedback from you would be like looking for diamonds under my couch cushions. A fruitless endeavour.

[Rirath]

Sigh, if only 360 demos didn't take forever to download for me...
36%, and it's been at it for at least a few hours.

[Kelegacy]

Looking for positive 360 feedback from you would be like looking for diamonds under my couch cushions. A fruitless endeavour.
Anyway...anyone else have impressions, yet? I want to hear as many thoughts as possible about the pros/cons of the game. What else do I have to do, I'm at work. And arguing with Reanimated isn't my idea of a productive day.

[Savok]

Looking for positive 360 feedback from you would be like looking for diamonds under my couch cushions. A fruitless endeavour.
I've argued the quality of Kameo with him, he thinks it's great. Didn't even need to look for something.

[absolut taco]

Checking the link's link, apparntly it's our laws or regulations or some shit. I really don't see how it's their business since the demos are not being sold. I can go right now, and find a picture of a girl fucking a horse in about 20 seconds, download it to my PC and enjoy it, yet a game demo is suddenly a no no. Bullshit, they don't want Aussies dragging down their severs.
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Too. much. info.

[Savok]

Variety is the spice of life.

Also if you can't catch the reference, you are without geek culture.

[ElPresidente]

Checking the link's link, apparntly it's our laws or regulations or some shit. I really don't see how it's their business since the demos are not being sold. I can go right now, and find a picture of a girl fucking a horse in about 20 seconds, download it to my PC and enjoy it, yet a game demo is suddenly a no no. Bullshit, they don't want Aussies dragging down their severs.

Censorship has nothing to do with whether it is being sold or not. You can jump on the net and find content that is illegal in this country, true, that doesn't mean that a company would not be liable if they were to directly publish it to that country.

Saint's Row is a title very similar to a series already available in this country (GTA obviously) whereas Dead Rising is a very brutal game so folks are taking it a little more cautiously until the OFLC is able to give an indication of what they think.

Don't stress though, as many have pointed out, just create a US account. I've got a US, Aus and Japanese account on my 360, it is easy.

Wow, was that a Dead Alive quote? Talk about cult classic!

Please it is called Braindead (everywhere but the US :P). Pick the Aussie. ;)

Seriously. If you want to go by reviews, then at least wait for a source that has at least a little credibility left like Game Informer or Gamespot. Otherwise, just grab the demo and think for yourself.

Please tell me you didn't just imply those sources were credible??? :P

Try Eurogramer for something credible.

[Savok]

Based on what Zangster said I've been trying, only Xbox.com seems to be broken right now.

[Reanimated]

Try Eurogramer for something credible.




I'll try eurogamer if I need something to wipe my ass with.

[Johan]

Seriously. If you want to go by reviews, then at least wait for a source that has at least a little credibility left like Game Informer or Gamespot. Otherwise, just grab the demo and think for yourself.

GameSpot's reviews are generally solid; agreed (I disagree with ElPresidente on this one ;) ) I'll be downloading this sucker after work; my question is, how is this going to be substantially different from other hack-and-slash style games? I AM interested in the availability of multiple weaponry from within the environment...basically anything you can pick up, it seems, but I've never been a big fan of hack-and-slash gameplay. Will it be more than that?

[Morangie]

Try Eurogramer for something credible.

Eurogamer gave Sensible Soccer 2006 9/10 and Chromehounds 4/10.

[KNOTE]

Eurogamer gave Sensible Soccer 2006 9/10 and Chromehounds 4/10.

Eurogamer gets my shaking fist of fury! And a gnarled scowl.

[Maskatron]

Damn, I shouldn't have read about this demo right before I need to go to work. :(

[Serapth]

Eurogamer gets my shaking fist of fury! And a gnarled scowl.


Would this be a bad time to bitch about Play magazine again.

Funny thing is, every time ive mentioned the assitude that is Play, fitbabits pops into the thread and says "Dont get me started on Play magazine!".

Worse thing is, the bastard wont actually get started on Play magazine, so I havent a clue what he is talking about.

Anyways, no matter how bad a magazine is, Play is worse + 5. But it is pretty.

[Yeti2005]

Try calming the fuck down and creating a UK or US gamertag. There are instructions all over the place on how to do this. I have Japanese and German tags and have tons of content from those regions.


The point is we shouldn't have to.

No, I think the point is don't bitch to us or complain to MS since it's the laws in the countries (that you live in) that are preventing or delaying the demo. People seem to whine about this issue every time there's a new download. Either stop whining or do something about it (either by using a different gamertag or better yet speaking to your representatives in your govt).

[Grifter]

Would this be a bad time to bitch about Play magazine again.

Funny thing is, every time ive mentioned the assitude that is Play, fitbabits pops into the thread and says "Dont get me started on Play magazine!".

Worse thing is, the bastard wont actually get started on Play magazine, so I havent a clue what he is talking about.

Anyways, no matter how bad a magazine is, Play is worse + 5. But it is pretty.

I am not a huge fan of any gaming magazine (they are shit) but the couple times I needed something light to read I picked up Play and thought it was great. Considering I have only read 3 or 4 issues over the past 2 years I am just curious as to why you find it to be worse than EGM, OPM or OXM? Most of these magazine actuallly piss me off do to their extreme stupidity and seeming lack of common sense or understanding of technology and the industry they claim to belong to.

[Jack B]

Looking for positive 360 feedback from you would be like looking for diamonds under my couch cushions. A fruitless endeavour.

I'm not a huge Kelegacy fan, but to be fair to him he's started to make some positive comments. I believe I remember positive quotes on Oblivion, PDZ and Kameo, so he has mellowed a bit in that area.

[Genital Eclipse]

Anyone else notice the tards that are completely off topic in this thread?

[violentp]

Anyone else notice the tards that are completely off topic in this thread?

I've been noticing it for about a week now.

[bone_matrix]

ANYWAY:

I liked the demo. I only played once (have to go to work soon) and I don't really have anything bad to say about it. I wish I knew what I was supposed to do, but it was a Demo, and not really a mission. More kill zmobies than anything. Which was fun. I'll have to read up a bit about the missions, but I think I'll be getting this on launch day.

[sonysyndicate]

Anyone else notice the tards that are completely off topic in this thread?

Goiing back to the topic. I just finished downloading the demo and this is by far the best 360 game out (GRAW fans might argue against this).

[Kelegacy]

I'm not a huge Kelegacy fan, but to be fair to him he's started to make some positive comments. I believe I remember positive quotes on Oblivion, PDZ and Kameo, so he has mellowed a bit in that area.
Kameo is friggin' awesome. I love it. I am going to surpass 1000 on my Gamerscore this weekend as a result!

I want to get Table Tennis next, but until I find a cheap deal on it or arrange a trade with someone, I can wait a bit longer. But I really do want to pick up TT after playing the demo. I also still need to get GRAW.

I have Pac-Pix, F-Zero GP Legends, San Andreas Xbox and Phoenix Wright all still in the shrink wrap...I could start a trade thread with all the other games I have to offer as well, but I'm too lazy. (Too many games, not enough time to play them all)

[violentp]

Kameo is friggin' awesome. I love it. I am going to surpass 1000 on my Gamerscore this weekend as a result!

I want to get Table Tennis next, but until I find a cheap deal on it or arrange a trade with someone, I can wait a bit longer. But I really do want to pick up TT after playing the demo. I also still need to get GRAW.

I have Pac-Pix, F-Zero GP Legends, San Andreas Xbox and Phoenix Wright all still in the shrink wrap...I could start a trade thread with all the other games I have to offer as well, but I'm too lazy. (Too many games, not enough time to play them all)

Let me know what you have and I'd be willing to purchase a bulk of items cash.

[Zurik]

I thought the developers were saying it would take a while for the demo to be released and wouldn't happen until after the game was out? This is a very pleasant surprise!

[Morangie]

In the demo, jump off the balcony in the coffee shop onto the shop awning below to find a nice surprise :)

[Jack B]

Kameo is friggin' awesome. I love it. I am going to surpass 1000 on my Gamerscore this weekend as a result!

I want to get Table Tennis next, but until I find a cheap deal on it or arrange a trade with someone, I can wait a bit longer. But I really do want to pick up TT after playing the demo. I also still need to get GRAW.

I have Pac-Pix, F-Zero GP Legends, San Andreas Xbox and Phoenix Wright all still in the shrink wrap...I could start a trade thread with all the other games I have to offer as well, but I'm too lazy. (Too many games, not enough time to play them all)

I'm impressed! Glad to see you're having fun! Life is good! :)

[Goronmon]

Anyone else notice the tards that are completely off topic in this thread?Someone with the name "Genital Eclipse" calling OT posters "tards"? Interesting...

[Serapth]

I am not a huge fan of any gaming magazine (they are shit) but the couple times I needed something light to read I picked up Play and thought it was great. Considering I have only read 3 or 4 issues over the past 2 years I am just curious as to why you find it to be worse than EGM, OPM or OXM? Most of these magazine actuallly piss me off do to their extreme stupidity and seeming lack of common sense or understanding of technology and the industry they claim to belong to.

OVERWHELMING BIAS... huge, disgustingly bad. See, OPM and OXM both have an obvious bias, but that should be fairly obvious up front. Besides the bias ( which is enough to make me hate the magazine ), the writers are asshats. Its as much about personal opinion and how they feel that day, then it is about what they are actually talking about. Its the type of magazine that starts an RTS article with "I dont like strategy games, but..." Um ok, if you dont like fucking strategy games, why are you reviewing them. Worse so, you cant score down a product because your not keen on the genre. Same way, jRPGs seem to be universally praised, even if they are pure shit. Finally, they worship all thing Japanese, to the appoint of obnoxious fanboy Otaku types.

Oh yeah, and the scores make no fucking sense. "The game had so so graphics, the gameplay was infuriating and their was no online play... I give it an 8.5".

Basically its like they plucked their authors from the worst of a gamespot forum argument. Its too bad to, because if reading the words in that magazine didnt cause my eyes to bleed, it would be pretty good. Its very purdy and all.

[Rirath]

Anyone else notice the tards that are completely off topic in this thread?

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[Serapth]

2) Insulting is can be fun, but please have a point and please refrain from AOL lingo like 'tards. As a side note, any sort of homosexual insult, no matter how it is intended, is sure to end in tears.


Oh, stop being such a queer!


... sorry, you knew someone was gonna do it. Might as well get it over with.

[51|RandoM]

Someone with the name "Genital Eclipse" calling OT posters "tards"? Interesting...

Doesn't that tag get you thinking? Are the genitals being eclipsed, perhaps by a pea, or are they eclipsing something else, like, perhaps a sheep?

[Intruder]

I cannot believe how fun the demo is. It is a wonderful experience. It is actually as if you are stuck in a Romero movie. Words cannot describe how much fun i am having just replaying the demo. I mean, once a slutty dressd zombie woman dropped to her knees and began to perform, what looked like felatio, except she was using her teeth and much blood was spurting from me. COME ON!!! How cool is that! :) The amount of enemies is staggering too, it does not look like they have been cut down in numbers at all, and the frameate is solid, all the while the game looks beautiful. Back to playing now.

[Major Dan]

You hate it? I just found out about this and now I'm going in for a 12 hour shift, every day all weekend long. Meaning I'll only have a few spare hours in between to check this out!

I can't even get on LIVE right now :(

So I can't get it until Sep probably :(

[Returner]

:eek: All that is holy why must I be at work. I can't take this I want me some zombies.

[Mantooth]

:eek: All that is holy why must I be at work. I can't take this I want me some zombies.

Even better. I will be leaving work in 4 hours and have some free time this weekend to get my zombie smashing fill, but due to the incompetence of AT&T(SBC) I have no DSL at my new place. :mad:

[TRiLoGY]

Well ive played the demo for around 45mins and found it a bit Boring..
All you can do in the demo is wander around in one area and kill Zombies..
I think the full game will be good though :)

[Intruder]

Well ive played the demo for around 45mins and found it a bit Boring..
All you can do in the demo is wander around in one area and kill Zombies..
I think the full game will be good though :)

What freaking more do you need my friend???!?!?!?!

;)

Mall+Zombies+Hot women+weapons+rednecks=gaming goodness

[Oddmaker]

This is a very good game, best ive played for a very long time.

[RorschachCCCLX]

OVERWHELMING BIAS... huge, disgustingly bad. See, OPM and OXM both have an obvious bias, but that should be fairly obvious up front. Besides the bias ( which is enough to make me hate the magazine ), the writers are asshats. Its as much about personal opinion and how they feel that day, then it is about what they are actually talking about. Its the type of magazine that starts an RTS article with "I dont like strategy games, but..." Um ok, if you dont like fucking strategy games, why are you reviewing them. Worse so, you cant score down a product because your not keen on the genre. Same way, jRPGs seem to be universally praised, even if they are pure shit. Finally, they worship all thing Japanese, to the appoint of obnoxious fanboy Otaku types.

Oh yeah, and the scores make no fucking sense. "The game had so so graphics, the gameplay was infuriating and their was no online play... I give it an 8.5".

Basically its like they plucked their authors from the worst of a gamespot forum argument. Its too bad to, because if reading the words in that magazine didnt cause my eyes to bleed, it would be pretty good. Its very purdy and all.


I've noticed that the online sector isn't much better, Gametab/1up.com seem to be viciously pro-sony and simply swoon over all things Sqaure-Enix. As I've stated previously, I find it funny that it takes 5 years of hard work and pricey development to make a western style RPG like Baldur's Gate or Oblivion, but they manage to crap out a new final fantasy AND kingdom hearts nearly every year (both FF 12 and 13 and its many siblings are in production now.) Square must have one hell of a sweatshop.
Whats so great about afeminate characters chopping at each other with large, phallus-style swords?

uh, anyhow, back to this zombie thing we were talking about in the first place... anyone else find it funny that in the fine print it says "NOT APPROVED, LIECENCED OR OTHER WISE ENDORSED BY GEORGE A. RAMEO'S DAWN OF THE DEAD." ?

[Kelegacy]

I've noticed that the online sector isn't much better, Gametab/1up.com seem to be viciously pro-sony and simply swoon over all things Sqaure-Enix. As I've stated previously, I find it funny that it takes 5 years of hard work and pricey development to make a western style RPG like Baldur's Gate or Oblivion, but they manage to crap out a new final fantasy AND kingdom hearts nearly every year (both FF 12 and 13 and its many siblings are in production now.) Square must have one hell of a sweatshop.
Whats so great about afeminate characters chopping at each other with large, phallus-style swords?

uh, anyhow, back to this zombie thing we were talking about in the first place... anyone else find it funny that in the fine print it says "NOT APPROVED, LIECENCED OR OTHER WISE ENDORSED BY GEORGE A. RAMEO'S DAWN OF THE DEAD." ?
The FF games take a long time to make, friend. FFXII has been in the works forever it seems.

[CaptStu]

Quick question: When does the game make its way to stores?

[RorschachCCCLX]

But they were released in consectutive years back in the PSX days. A way of making them artificaly longer is to add a whole bunch of random encounters, that will take up 60% of the game right there, just build your story around it add one main character designed in freakishly queer-eye fashion and presto- FF-XXVII

[RorschachCCCLX]

Quick question: When does the game make its way to stores?

Our computer's say 8/9 is the in store day.

[TRiLoGY]

Quick question: When does the game make its way to stores?

I think its sometime next week in the US..
In the UK its out on the 8th September

[Genital Eclipse]

Hi, welcome to EA. To make your new membership more attractive, we suggest you memorize the following guidelines:

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3) Spelling and grammar rules are being monitored. This is for your own good, as well as the good of others.

Enjoy your stay.

Thanks for the tips. Oddly enough I joined the same month as you my little brother!

Anyways, back to the demo, I loved it and will buy 13 copies. I liked the secret bonuses for using the right weapons.

[RorschachCCCLX]

yeah, but for me when I play I keep hearing the Robot Chicken end-theme in my head...

[Neosho]

How about YOU try doing the research. This has been explained several times:

http://www.majornelson.com/

http://www.majornelson.com/articles/MarketplaceFAQ.aspx

I laughed at the amount of ownage here....Thank you, reanimated.

Back to topic though...I can't wait until i can check this out at my friend's place...come to think of it...this is probably why he was late for work today...:D

[F3nyx]

I've been looking at the instructions, they need a valid address and phone number, it's borderline identity theft.yeah dude, voluntarily giving them your contact information is EXACTLY the same as having it stolen from you. Also, believe it or not, "MiKKKro$oft" would love to deliver this demo right into your greedy, grubby hands, but unfortunately your homeland's semi-fascist restrictions prohibit this. You should move to the States -- here, at least it's still popular to pretend to give a shit for freedom.

Thanks for the tips. Oddly enough I joined the same month as you my little brother!Owned, 'nough said.

Someone with the name "Genital Eclipse" calling OT posters "tards"? Interesting...Name = post quality, now? Hmm... maybe you should explain what the hell yours means. Then we can all make snap judgements about each other!

I googled "Goronmon" and didn't find any definition (although I did find your neglected blog).

[Goronmon]

Name = post quality, now? Hmm... maybe you should explain what the hell yours means. Then we can all make snap judgements about each other!Calling someone a "tard" for making OT posts on a newspost on EvAv is pretty stupid. I just found it funny that someone with the name "Genital Eclipse" would be so anal (no pun intended) about OT posts.

I googled "Goronmon" and didn't find any definition (although I did find your neglected blog).Its a nickname given to me from high school. I was one of the bigger guys in my class (not fat), so my buddies gave me the nickname Goron (after the rock-eating guys from LoZ:TOoT and the fact that my last name Gagnon was fairly close). Back then we had a tendency to end names in with random suffixes (ie. my last name became Gagamemnon, Gagaroonmoon, etc). There you happy now? ;)

[F3nyx]

Calling someone a "tard" for making OT posts on a newspost on EvAv is pretty stupid. I just found it funny that someone with the name "Genital Eclipse" would be so anal (no pun intended) about OT posts.Meh... the 360/PS3 flaming seems to reach a new low every day. A man can't take a stroll 'round these forums for fear of being walloped by several dozen massive, waggling e-penises. "Tard" may be unwarranted, but "high-functioning autistic" would be overly generous.

Its a nickname given to me from high school. I was one of the bigger guys in my class (not fat), so my buddies gave me the nickname Goron (after the rock-eating guys from LoZ:TOoT and the fact that my last name Gagnon was fairly close). Back then we had a tendency to end names in with random suffixes (ie. my last name became Gagamemnon, Gagaroonmoon, etc). There you happy now? ;)I meant it as a rhetorical question, but... you're just too lovable to stay mad at! :o

manbabies lol

[BleedTheFreak]

(not fat)

Whew, that's a relief, I'm sure we all would really care if you were heavy. Yikes. Dodged a bullet there!

No offense, but your nick-name would have been a mouthful. I'd have called "Oronmo" and (since you're large in stature and not because of extra fat) hoped you didn't catch the tongue-in-cheek psuedo Pig Latin.

Though seriously, your original post with some loose guidelines might not have been a bad idea. And Genital Eclipse should probably have been more PC in his throwing the word "Tard" around, as there is bound to be *someone* who takes offense.

It might be I need to find better use of my time here at work, as well. Boy I wish it was quittin' time, I have a GIGA-FUCKING-BYTE download to attend to.

[Goronmon]

Whew, that's a relief, I'm sure we all would really care if you were heavy. Yikes. Dodged a bullet there!

No offense, but your nick-name would have been a mouthful. I'd have called "Oronmo" and (since you're large in stature and not because of extra fat) hoped you didn't catch the tongue-in-cheek psuedo Pig Latin.

Though seriously, your original post with some loose guidelines might not have been a bad idea. And Genital Eclipse should probably have been more PC in his throwing the word "Tard" around, as there is bound to be *someone* who takes offense.

It might be I need to find better use of my time here at work, as well. Boy I wish it was quittin' time, I have a GIGA-FUCKING-BYTE download to attend to.Chill dude, lol.

[Adam Blue]

Wow. This topic wins for going oddly off-topic.

I won't have my 360 until tomorrow. I'm going nuts right now. I want to kill zombies.

[Gamefreaks]

It's unavailablity in Australia has nothing to do with it not being rated - http://www.oflc.gov.au/special.html?n=46&p=156&sTitle=dead+rising&sProducer=capcom&sMediaFilm=1&sMediaPublications=1&sMediaGames=1&sDateFromM=1&sDateFromY=2003&sDateToM=8&sDateToY=2006&record=215218

[Lekon]

In the demo, jump off the balcony in the coffee shop onto the shop awning below to find a nice surprise :)


Oh dear god. Thank you for that tip, I never noticed the bleeding weapon of the gods was hiding right there. I wonder if that will be in the full version? That weapon ROCKS.

To an earlier poster who worried about hack and slash: Let me put your fears to rest. Theres hacking, slashing, smashing, shooting, and then there's sport.

I've never had a hack and slash where bowling became a weapon, or you could drive a shopping cart through a bunch of enemies, or use a golf club to drive balls as a weapon, This makes for a rather, unique mechanic on the usual pick blunt object, apply to enemy gameplay style.

[icronic]

God I love this place. The threads here never fail to make me smile. It's just like gamefaqs but more grown up. All the flaming, fancier words!

[Lekon]

Okay. I had to make another post. Two things.

One, I misspelled Slaughter in my original post, Maybe a mod could edit that? Makes me look goofier than I am, and its my first news post ever!

Two: This time around I started to play with the camera.
A female zombie in fishnets and gogoboots was walking towards me, so I put a hot frying pan to her face, she falls down, I take a picture. The outcome is a pink circle around her .. *ahem* lower parts that could be seen up the dress, and the picture is rated as "Erotica". Mind you, the picture is of a greyskinned female zombie with her face burned off.

Actually. There's probably a website devoted to that. I should get a new title. Zombie Erotica Photographer.

[BleedTheFreak]

Chill dude, lol.

Oh, I was just bustin your balls. It's all good.

[Jack B]

Just played the demo at lunch! It's laugh out loud funny. The Zombies fall down, get up, stagger around. They act just like Zombies in movies!

I expected, I'd have a few laughs, but wouldn't buy this game. Now I'm not so sure..., but I really want to get back into LOTR's (fun 8 hours so far) and pickup Prey, but I've spent 117 hours in Chromehounds and can't see a reason to stop yet... But, the Dead Rising demo was a ton of fun!

The variety of weapons is very good. Lot's of creativity. The mall is beautiful and fun to explore. I like that you have certain places to go and get a rest from the Zombies, but don't rest too long, because their always staggering towards you (the ones that see you at least...).

It's not so easy that you can coast or not pay attention. If you're not careful one of those blood suckers will manage to latch on and you'll have to shake them off.

I liked the cut scenes I saw as well. More boob physics. The blonde woman in the beggining had great hair, eyes etc. The NPC head movements and facial expressions were decent. I was thinking of Mass Effect as I'm watching the cut scenes and wondering how much more immersive the characters can get...

We are getting close to the time when the stories do matter and the characters, voice acting etc, is good enough for the average gamer to get attached or caught up in the characters and dialogue.

I know for some that's happened already, but really for the masses video game stories, acting etc, is B movie at best. I think it may be about to change in the next year or two...

[ElPresidente]

Eurogamer gave Sensible Soccer 2006 9/10 and Chromehounds 4/10.

The day I agree with every single review put out by a website is the day I stab my self in the eye with a satay dipped chopped stick.

Eurogamer is one of the few net review sites that has some writing talent and use a scoring system that is not artificially inflated by the strange belief that 7 should be the average point.

Anyway ON topic I'm sad because my download still hasn't finished. I was expecting to wake up and bright, shiny zombie killing goodness ready to go. :D

your homeland's semi-fascist restrictions prohibit this. You should move to the States -- here, at least it's still popular to pretend to give a shit for freedom.

Oh yay. Yet another ill informed moron passing judgement on a legal/political system they don't understand.

Read up kiddo and learn what my country is all about before you attempt to claim a higher moral ground (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=236282&postcount=38)

[Morangie]

No, their score for Sensible Soccer 2006 was artificially inflated by the fact they got an exclusive early review and their score for Chromehounds was deflated by the fact they wanted Mechassault.

The reviewers main problem was the fact that he didn't like the style of the game so why the hell was the review given to him? Its like getting a FPS fan to review the latest RTS, of course he isn't going to bloody well like it. They lost all credibility for me with those two reviews.

[Dafizman]

Anyone else try walking in the door right near where you start the demo? Hints at some of the "deeper" story.

[ElPresidente]

I wasn't defending those reviews. Just saying on the balance, there is a much higher quality of writing on Eurogamer compared to Gamespot, Gamespy, IGN, etc.

The score comment was simply referencing that a 5 on Eurogamer is closer to being the score for an average game. On other sites a 7 is closer. The problem with that is that suddenly your scoring any halfway decent release in such a manner that you're really only rating games out of 4. (7, 8, 9 or 10).

Anyway you can find a horridly inaccurate review on pretty much any website out there. It is the joy of attempting to provide an objective comment on a subjective medium.

[Sl1pstream]

and German tag

But why? Germany is about the only European country that is known for censorship.

Played the demo for about 5 minutes, although I will play around with it more tomorrow. What I played was fun and if I'm happy with what I see tomorrow, I'll probably pick it up when it gets released over here in September.

[Jack B]

No, their score for Sensible Soccer 2006 was artificially inflated by the fact they got an exclusive early review and their score for Chromehounds was deflated by the fact they wanted Mechassault.

The reviewers main problem was the fact that he didn't like the style of the game so why the hell was the review given to him? Its like getting a FPS fan to review the latest RTS, of course he isn't going to bloody well like it. They lost all credibility for me with those two reviews.

QFT!!! :)

I triangulate 6 things nowadays before a game purchase. Reviews and review scores are dropping a lot in my decision making since I started downloading so many games on the 360.

I've ranked them in order of importance for me, but they all play a part.

1. My interest in the genre
3. Word of mouth
3. Demo play
4. Developer/Franchise track record with that genre/franchise
5. Review content
6. Review score

Good example of why reviews can be misleading was hearing Mark MacDonald of www.gamevideos.com say, "All the maps in Chromehounds are mostly flat...". That might have been the most clueless statement I can remember reading in a long time. It was a massive hint, he didn't play more that a very few of the 80+ maps... And likely much of the rest of the game either!. Content can give you some clues about someone's review bias, but reviews typically do have a tilt and sometimes, it's difficult to determine what the tilt really is...

If I were to use review score, I'd use www.gamerankings.com as it's at least a consensus of review scores.

[Heretic Machine]

Awesome Dead Rising demo... but no money. Oh wait, look what came today, my housing deposit from my stay at the dorms last year.

[EvoG]

Absolutely awesome game. As with any game, it has to be fun to execute the primary activities in the game, be it driving, shooting and even just moving the character around. Once you've got that down(as a developer), adding the details and story is just icing to a tasty cake.

Point is, the demo is 100% just about exploration and zombie killing, and that alone is just terribly satisfying. The first time you slam the sledgehammer down, you 'know' that the game is going to rock; the power of the swing, the detail in the particle smoke from impact, the 'hwamp-ting' sound as it its the mall floor...its the details that are just everywhere. Then, you add the little things like Frank laughing when something 'funny' happens to a zomibe (hot frying pan to the face [charge attack]), the most excellent golf club attack (again, charge it up and aim with the head; higher will chuck the ball up) and the shopping cart hustle.

Notable stuff:

You can mix food in the blender in the second floor restaurant. Each combination has a different effect, such as zombies temporarily being unable to 'grab' you (they can still swat), full health or having highly damaging 'spit' (ranged attack with no weapons drawn). Think of the herbs in RE, but apparently a bit more robust.

The security guards near right at the front entrance of the mall have pistols(each with 30 rounds). Speaking of which, the gun sounds in the game are outstanding.

At the first landing on the stairs, nearest to where you start, you can jump to the blue ledge(Frank grabs the edge). Run all the way towards the end for a fun hidden weapon.

Someone else already mentioned dropping down from the second floor restaurant onto a canopy for another hidden weapon.

There are several cutscenes depending on where you exit. The obvious ones are the main entrance, the movie theatre and the grand hall. You can also exit through the door right where you begin.


The fact that there is quite a variety to the game locations (from screens) and the ability to drive vehicles (including motorcycles), this is a definite winner. As I said earlier, the game is already fun just to play, and then you view all the cutscenes, and you simply cannot wait to find out where the story continues.

Cheers

[ElPresidente]

If I were to use review score, I'd use www.gamerankings.com as it's at least a consensus of review scores.

I do that for console games. With PC it is a mix of looking at Gamerankings and the reviews in the mag I write for. The latter because I know the tastes of the other writers and I personally enjoy their writing. I wouldn't have read the mag so long otherwise. :P

But yes, taking an aggregate is generally the best way to go about it. Although there are exceptions. Chromehounds being one.

How one game could be misread by so many 'professionals' is beyond me.

[Kelegacy]

OKay, I really liked the demo. Really. So I'll probably end up grabbing the retail game...but not at 60 bucks. That's my personal boycott. :)

I wish the demo wasn't timed. I started just killing everything and then found that time expired. The second time through I ran and explored more shops. Time expired, but at least I got to the sporting goods store to grab some awesome equipment. Anyone try the bowling ball? I also loved how I could pick up a shopping cart and throw it down the stairs, knocking tons of zombies down as it tipped end over end.

I wonder how it will be in the long run, if it will get boring or not. But I can see this game being an awesome stress reliever. The gameplay is obvious and could get repetitive, but at least for the demo it was great and had a wonderful atmosphere.

Will be avidly awaiting more reviews.

[Morangie]

Kelegacy, try leaving the demo area and checking out some of the cutscenes, see if that grabs you. I never expected to get this game and actually care about the story, but now its the thing I'm most interested in.

[Kelegacy]

Kelegacy, try leaving the demo area and checking out some of the cutscenes, see if that grabs you. I never expected to get this game and actually care about the story, but now its the thing I'm most interested in.
Yeah I saw the one with the father and sons with the rifles. I really am interested in the game because it has atmosphere, and I have always wanted to be in a mall by myself and run amok. Never thought about the zombies, but I guess I don't mind them tagging along.

[ElPresidente]

I guess I'm not the only person who has fantasised about being locked up in a supermarket with a bunch of your mates and having the world's biggest food fight.

:D

80% downloaded and counting. This is killing me. :P

[Jack B]

Kelegacy, try leaving the demo area and checking out some of the cutscenes, see if that grabs you. I never expected to get this game and actually care about the story, but now its the thing I'm most interested in.

Yeah, I'm the same way. That 1st scene with the blonde woman was pretty good. I thought it was a step above what I'd seen in Prey. I liked the story line in Prey's demo, but the man (your character) and the woman in the 1st scene seemed much more real. The way her boobs moved a little when she raised her gun or stumbled when she hurt her ankle (OK, so I was looking at her ankle too, but I'm a guy, I can't help looking at slightly giggling boobs). :) She stumbled more realistically than players in 90% of the sports games I've seen. I was looking closely at the wispy hair just below her ear, which was a different color than the blonde hair on her head, looking at her eyes and head movements ect, thinking this is good shit.

The 2 kids and the crazy dad who wanted the younger kid to shoot the human was interesting... Will he do it. Probably not, but maybe he tries and misses... maybe some Zombie jumps on them just in time and eats Dad's brains! Yeah!!!

The one with the 3 guys (they were Zombie like...) in the jeep bashing heads with the baseball bat. The I wanted to see the woman's face who knelt down and find out who she was...

Very weird. I usually skip the cutscenes, but these were interesting to me...

[Kelegacy]

Did you see the cutscene where the girl in the bathroom stall is giving her boyfriend fellatio and she has an obvious cut/bite marks on her neck? Then he screams and she pulls her head back, her face all blood?

That one was fucked up.

[John Mirra]

For some reason the "Father and Sons" cutscene was really disturbing for me, and I don't know why.

This game's story has piqued my interest. The characters look great, and the voice-acting is anything but shab.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Demo was a lot of fun.

As several of you have mentioned, I came away interested in the story, something which I always thought was going to be pretty secondary to the game, and largely uninteresting.

The only worry I have now (and it's just a potential one) is that in the screens that list the "game features" after you finish the demo, there was the phrase "Achievements and keys downloaded from the Xbox Live Marketplace unlock rare items!"

So I'm just a little fearful now of the micropayments adding up, and that the game will ship with <1000 achievement points (I hate that, as a self confessed achievement whore). Because I can see myself really getting sucked in and paying for extra weapons in this game, so fingers crossed there're free content downloads...

[Neosho]

The only worry I have now (and it's just a potential one) is that in the screens that list the "game features" after you finish the demo, there was the phrase "Achievements and keys downloaded from the Xbox Live Marketplace unlock rare items!"

So I'm just a little fearful now of the micropayments adding up, and that the game will ship with <1000 achievement points (I hate that, as a self confessed achievement whore). Because I can see myself really getting sucked in and paying for extra weapons in this game, so fingers crossed there're free content downloads...

That kinda bothered me as well, considering i play at a friend's place. I wouldn't mind chipping in a couple bucks for it, as it's sort of a new situation, but...why :(

Either way, me and my friend hot seated this for about 2 hours this afternoon, i totally forgot i had to go to my g/f's for dinner... :eek:

We had a blast, (try kicking the shopping carts for loads of fun (jump while holding it), beating zombies in with a megaman hat, putting hats on teh zombies and taking pictures of them...amusing, amusing for sure...going nuts with the katana/smg...totally fucking awesome. Can't wait for the full thing to come out.

[ElPresidente]

Well it finally downloaded. I've been enjoying it but it is getting tired quickly. I think this is less the fault of the game and more the fault of the demo. The feeling of exploration wasn't there as the section of the mall you were confined to just isn't that big and all these tantalising locations I wanted to check out were barred to me.

Further the constant swarm of easy to defeat zombies makes the action seem a little skill-less. However hang a mission structure over that with objectives outside of seeing how many zombies you can kill... well then that all serves a great in game purpose.

In short I'm dissapointed in the demo, I thought it would tide me over til the game's full release but that is definately the problem of the demo itself. Despite my dissapointment I'm actually looking forward to the final release more than I was previously (and I already had it at the top of my must have list). The demo was like a teensy mouthfull of what looks like a grand feast. It was tasty but ultimately unsatisfying.

[Kelegacy]

On second thought, I think I'm going to buy this game. Time restrictions in games usually don't work well with me because of the slow, exploratory manner I play games, but I find myself wishing the demo wasn't so feckin' short. That means I want to keep playing, and that's a good thing.

I don't know what it is...I hate repetitious gaming, but this title is really growing on me. In N3 you can kill hordes of enemies, and I hated N3, but Dead Rising makes each kill fun. Again, once those reviews come in, if they are remotely positive, I'm game.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

I'm pretty sure aswell, Kelegacy, that you can unlock a survival mode where the only playtime limitation is how long you can stay alive. So provided you keep your health in check then there's a time limit free mode for you to mess around with.

[Adam Blue]

I'm pretty sure aswell, Kelegacy, that you can unlock a survival mode where the only playtime limitation is how long you can stay alive. So provided you keep your health in check then there's a time limit free mode for you to mess around with.

That is true. And you have to keep eating to stay alive.

[Kelegacy]

Your health goes down with the time? Or only when you get attacked?

[EternalGamer]

On second thought, I think I'm going to buy this game. Time restrictions in games usually don't work well with me because of the slow, exploratory manner I play games, but I find myself wishing the demo wasn't so feckin' short. That means I want to keep playing, and that's a good thing.

I don't know what it is...I hate repetitious gaming, but this title is really growing on me. In N3 you can kill hordes of enemies, and I hated N3, but Dead Rising makes each kill fun. Again, once those reviews come in, if they are remotely positive, I'm game.


That's good to hear. And as an added bonus, the 360 fanboys will now officially let you in their club. They can actually pay attention to your opinion on something now that it mirrors their own. I'm not really sure that's a compliment but... uh... congrats anyway. :)

[Norse]

That's good to hear. And as an added bonus, the 360 fanboys will now officially let you in their club. They can actually pay attention to your opinion on something now that it mirrors their own. I'm not really sure that's a compliment but... uh... congrats anyway. :)

It was just a matter of time. I don't think you can stay on this site for too long before becoming positive towards Xbox. Resistance is futile :)

[theguido]

It was just a matter of time. I don't think you can stay on this site for too long before becoming positive towards Xbox. Resistance is futile :)

I was pretty neutral towards the 360 when I came here but the volume and frequency of the fellating happening here has made me slightly negative towards the 360 thanks to the very shrill followers that it has on these forums. And, yes, I do mean followers because to many of them it seems somewhat religious in nature.

[EternalGamer]

It was just a matter of time. I don't think you can stay on this site for too long before becoming positive towards Xbox. Resistance is futile :)


I have no problem with positive attitudes towards the 360. There are plenty of people on this site, like TrackZero and Bapenguin, who are very postive about it without being ridiculious. Then there are these other guys who rarely have anything interesting to say and whose posts mainly seem geared towards defending MS on whatever charge is being labeled (and sometimes even when no charge is being labeled at all) by compiling long lists about how wonder every MS does is.

Whenever I see those things, I just started skipping over them because they never have anything insightful or even new to say. They just sound like broken PR records. They could save themselves and us a lot of time by just replacing all those paragraphs of text with "Microsoft has beautiful dick and I love to suck it." The amount of sophistication and self respect their posts show would be about the same. Occasionally one of them will get off their banal proselytizing routine long enough to contribute to a real conversation, but mostly they just walk around with MS's hairy appendage in their mouth issuing forth muffled cries of ecstasy.

[thefunmachine]

I have been wanting this game so bad, and playing the demo only made me want it more.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

I wanted to be back on the leaderboard so bad, and posting redundant comments will get me there.

Fixed.

Pardon the cynicism, maybe I'm wrong but I can't help but think it 8)

[Lekon]

I have no problem with positive attitudes towards the 360. There are plenty of people on this site, like TrackZero and Bapenguin, who are very postive about it without being ridiculious. Then there are these other guys who rarely have anything interesting to say and whose posts mainly seem geared towards defending MS on whatever charge is being labeled (and sometimes even when no charge is being labeled at all) by compiling long lists about how wonder every MS does is.

Whenever I see those things, I just started skipping over them because they never have anything insightful or even new to say. They just sound like broken PR records. They could save themselves and us a lot of time by just replacing all those paragraphs of text with "Microsoft has beautiful dick and I love to suck it." The amount of sophistication and self respect their posts show would be about the same. Occasionally one of them will get off their banal proselytizing routine long enough to contribute to a real conversation, but mostly they just walk around with MS's hairy appendage in their mouth issuing forth muffled cries of ecstasy.

Wow. That is graphic. Did you co write Valley of the Penises, or what?

(Just couldn't resist, the.. visual imagry you weave makes me somewhat ill, and yet strangely interested.)

:p

[Savok]

If there's one thing Dan Dan knows, it's cocks and what people do with them.

[Kelegacy]

I have no problem with positive attitudes towards the 360. There are plenty of people on this site, like TrackZero and Bapenguin, who are very postive about it without being ridiculious. Then there are these other guys who rarely have anything interesting to say and whose posts mainly seem geared towards defending MS on whatever charge is being labeled (and sometimes even when no charge is being labeled at all) by compiling long lists about how wonder every MS does is.

Oh I agree completely. Yesterday I even went as far as to go into the options screen and turn off signatures because Reanimated has taken sigs to a whole new extreme. Bean19 and I got into a little squabble about the price of the PS3. He said my constant rebuttal of, "No, the PS3 is 499 dollars, not 599," was retarded, fanboyish and repetitively wrong. After soothing our differences slightly, I told him I could just put the comment in my signature to save time and effort. Instead I put it in my User Title. And you know what? Before ten minutes had passed, Reanimated had put a counter of "The PS3 is 599!" in his signature.

To be an extremist in a religious organization or political group is one thing. But to be fanatical with videogames and hardware corporations? It's downright silly. I have plenty of friends here who are seriously pro-Xbox, and I have no problem with that. And they have no problem (most of the time) when I have something to say about the 360. Because the machine is not a deity, it isn't a sin to take its name in vain or to criticize it. But some people get so worked up that they begin to label me a negative fanboy who hates the 360 and anything Microsoft. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

But like trying to get the people on Trinity Broadcasting Network to listen to your views on evolution, dissenting comments fall on deaf ears. They only want to hear/think what they want. And now that my Gamerscore has soared with my love of Kameo and great comments about Table Tennis and Dead Rising, maybe they'll suddenly start showing up at my doorstep again, with their pamphlets and plastic smiles.

[Savok]

But to be fanatical with videogames and hardware corporations? It's downright silly.
Get fucked over by anyone enough times and you start taking satisfaction when they get fucked. Sony has been fucking themselves a lot lately, thus the feeling of joy on this site because just about every gamer has been a victim of Sony at one point or another.

And the PS3 is $600, unlike the 360's core version (which never should of existed either), no ability to fully upgrade it, can't magically stick a HDMI slot on.

[bean19]

Kelegacy - And you never got the point that it was your quipping and repetitive thread hijacking onto the same old subject that was annoying. Sort of like you are trying to do now.

Eternalgamer - I'll be just as excited about other hardware when it's out, affordably priced, and has a ton of good games. While I reserve my opinion about the Wii until I can actually play one and some other questions are answered, I hope to be cheerleading for it just the same way that I love my PS2, DS, 360, Xbox, and PC. . . but I reserve the right to think that the GC didn't have enough games made for it (though some were excellent), the PS3 is too fucking expensive and doesnt' have any games that excite me until late NEXT year (except Resistance - which looks cool), and the PSP is a cool bit of technology but I only use it to play movies when traveling because like the Gamecube it doesn't have that many games - and not as many standout awesome ones like the GC.

So I guess you could call me a fanboy of a whole lot of systems, and I'm totally willing to back that up with lists of cool games and the reasons why I like those systems. If you aren't interested in hearing why people like what they like, then don't challenge people on it.

My hope is that the PS3 will be $100-$200 less next year and that it will have lots of cool games, at which point I will probably buy it and start being a fanboy for it. . . But for now. . . well, I played it at E3 and the game look like 360 games and there aren't as many games for it and it is super expensive.

[Schnoogs]

This demo rocks...I'm hooked!! What is the release date?!?!?!

[Rirath]

I enjoyed the demo a good deal, but a few things did in fact disappoint me. For one, the combat isn't exactly what I was hoping for. Sure, the weapons are good, but I really wanted more fluid movements with better combo chaining. Something like N3 but on a smaller scale. It just seems overly stiff.

Also, loading times are longer than I'd like, and I really hope this doesn't become an issue every single time I move to a subsection of the mall. For that matter, several of the shops are emptier than I'd like, with just clothing options. While it does make finding weapons fun, it can be a bit disappointing too.

[Kelegacy]

Kelegacy - And you never got the point that it was your quipping and repetitive thread hijacking onto the same old subject that was annoying. Sort of like you are trying to do now.

But for now. . . well, I played it at E3 and the game look like 360 games and there aren't as many games for it and it is super expensive.

Well, I don't intend to thread hijack. It isn't me, it's the people who keep saying the PS3 is 599 that are doing it. I'm just pointing out they are wrong.

And by super expensive...do you mean one hundred dollars more than the competition? I don't scoff at 100 bucks, but that's still what the difference here is.

[Kelegacy]

Also, loading times are longer than I'd like, and I really hope this doesn't become an issue every single time I move to a subsection of the mall. For that matter, several of the shops are emptier than I'd like, with just clothing options. While it does make finding weapons fun, it can be a bit disappointing too.
Yes, the loading times ARE bad. I noticed that, too.

[Schnoogs]

Why are we talking about the PS3 price in a Dead Rising thread?

[Savok]

With the sheer number of things you can hit zombies with, that was never going to happen. Mind you, there's plenty of ??? in the moves area, so lvling up may open combos. As for loading times, they're a couple of seconds at most, it's not like you're sitting there waiting forever.

Some of the shops are a tad empty, but this is a demo don't forget. For instance there's some iffy modelling on the wounds when you start removing limbs, probably be fixed in the actual game.

[Schnoogs]

The demo hints at numerous subplots and adventures. I think the real game is gonna be massive.

Anyone try the skateboard? ;)

[Savok]

I haven't even found that yet

[Rirath]

The more I play the better I get at combat, I must admit. I'm hoping that as you raise your level / combat skill, you may get more robust attacks or something. I probably need to read more previews. I'm actually a fan of the weapons breaking, forcing you to try a lot of everything. I'm also a fan of the crowd mechanics... from the outside, you can pick them off, but from the inside of a swarm, you're pretty much toast.

Just a few more days to go. The achivement lists that have been posted around the web seem like some of the best I've seen yet. And the hint that they unlock stuff? Finally! A reason to get them! Add vehicles to this mix and the actual story to this mix and we could see some great stuff, so long as the balance is right.

[Kelegacy]

1UP gave the game a solid 8.0 I have a coupon for Hollywood Video, rent one get one free, so I think I'm gonna grab Dead Rising and another title. If I like it after 5 days of renting, then I think I can pretty much say I'll be glad to purchase.

[Neosho]

The more I play the better I get at combat, I must admit. I'm hoping that as you raise your level / combat skill, you may get more robust attacks or something. I probably need to read more previews. I'm actually a fan of the weapons breaking, forcing you to try a lot of everything. I'm also a fan of the crowd mechanics... from the outside, you can pick them off, but from the inside of a swarm, you're pretty much toast.

Just a few more days to go. The achivement lists that have been posted around the web seem like some of the best I've seen yet. And the hint that they unlock stuff? Finally! A reason to get them! Add vehicles to this mix and the actual story to this mix and we could see some great stuff, so long as the balance is right.

Swinging Sledgehammer ftw, seriously...that thing owns. Or, you can just chop off their legs with the Scythe...or use a combat knife, that thing is absurdly powerful. Let us not mention the katana.

[EvoG]

Can someone (who complained about 'load times') explain this to me? There's no loading in the demo other than going to the cutscenes(and perhaps then to other areas of the mall)...is THAT what bothers you? Its not any longer than any average game. :confused:

[Rirath]

Can someone (who complained about 'load times') explain this to me? There's no loading in the demo other than going to the cutscenes(and perhaps then to other areas of the mall)...is THAT what bothers you? Its not any longer than any average game. :confused:

Yes, that is what bothers me. If, in the full game, it's going to have a loading screen every single time I go into a subsection of the mall -- then that will annoy me. I imagine it's caching some files though, because I've noticed on repeat plays of the demo the load times are much faster.

[Schnoogs]

A lot of those load times are because when you leave a section it shows a cutscene.

I'll reserve judgement on that til the final version is released. Otherwise it just seems like the necessary load time to load a cutscene.

[EvoG]

Well the reason for my incredulity at the idea that load times would bother anyone goes hand in hand with a lack of antialiasing bothering anyone. I grew up with games, "suffering" through all sorts of technical limitations and marveling at technical achievements, and reading comments like "look at those jaggies, I'm not buying this game if they dont fix that" just smacks of ignorance. Most of those idiots probably dont even know what AA stands for (read above), yet they scream for it.

Anyway, short of notable games like GTA:SA and arguably Jak and Daxter, practically every game has loading(Oblivion loads, even for just a split second; pseudo-streaming), so I'm still not sure I see the problem in DR, as they're not long at all...what 3 seconds? Now if ALL games today were streaming and seamless, then you'd have a point, but in this space where ALL games actually load and very very few stream, I dont understand why this would be an issue. :)


Cheers

[Morangie]

One thing I've found for anyone wanting to just go crazy and smash up some zombies, you can get a book on maintenance from Bachman's Bookstore that makes the sledgehammer and the scythe last three times longer.

[EternalGamer]

Well the reason for my incredulity at the idea that load times would bother anyone goes hand in hand with a lack of antialiasing bothering anyone. I grew up with games, "suffering" through all sorts of technical limitations and marveling at technical achievements, and reading comments like "look at those jaggies, I'm not buying this game if they dont fix that" just smacks of ignorance. Most of those idiots probably dont even know what AA stands for (read above), yet they scream for it.

Anyway, short of notable games like GTA:SA and arguably Jak and Daxter, practically every game has loading(Oblivion loads, even for just a split second; pseudo-streaming), so I'm still not sure I see the problem in DR, as they're not long at all...what 3 seconds? Now if ALL games today were streaming and seamless, then you'd have a point, but in this space where ALL games actually load and very very few stream, I dont understand why this would be an issue. :)

Cheers



Most of Nintendo's games don't really load, I don't believe. I don't recall either Mario Sunshine or Wind Waker had loadtimes, but I could be wrong. Metriod Prime (sorta) has them, but it covers them up with elevators, which is at least better than stairing at a bar that completely removes you from the experience.

[MoJoBehaumat]

Most of Nintendo's games don't really load, I don't believe.

Damn straight! Nintendo hates load times so much that Nintendo simply stuck with a cartridge with the N64 because of this.

Even with the Cube they used a propriotary DVD format. Although it had more to do with piracy, but all the Gamecube games had a very very short load time in comparison to the other hardware guys. :D

[bean19]

Kelegacy - And yet what are we talking about now instead of the demo? I'm not annoyed by the price difference or your point, but by your broken record, repetitive annoying behavior. You're making the mistake of thinking that I give a fuck about your point when it's your behavior that is obnoxious.

[Rirath]

Well the reason for my incredulity at the idea that load times would bother anyone goes hand in hand with a lack of antialiasing bothering anyone. I grew up with games, "suffering" through all sorts of technical limitations and marveling at technical achievements, and reading comments like "look at those jaggies, I'm not buying this game if they dont fix that" just smacks of ignorance.

I grew up on games as well, but there has indeed been times when the limitations outweighed the advancements. Remember when the PS2 first hit? The jaggies on Tekken Tag Tourney were just awful, showing the AA wasn't what many had hoped. Although it mattered less for the game's main genres, it was a big deal to many compared to the Xbox and GC.

Anyway, short of notable games like GTA:SA and arguably Jak and Daxter, practically every game has loading(Oblivion loads, even for just a split second; pseudo-streaming)

Oblivion, too, loads too often for my tastes. Every time you go in a building, town, you name it... loading. This is a problem I hope to see overcome. The worst offender of late in my book is Half Life 2. Mid-level "Loading..." screens pulled me right out of the experience, especially in the boat levels.

so I'm still not sure I see the problem in DR, as they're not long at all...what 3 seconds? Now if ALL games today were streaming and seamless, then you'd have a point, but in this space where ALL games actually load and very very few stream, I dont understand why this would be an issue. :)

I don't see why you're straining to see an issue. I dislike the loading times, you seemingly don't... that's that. I'd prefer my games to be either seamless, or as close as possible. I can understand having to load to go outside, but I'm hoping it's just the cutscenes causing the loading screens inside. I'm not saying I won't buy it otherwise.

I have to disagree it takes 3 seconds, the first load of the game took considerably longer for me. But, if you don't mind it then it probably feels like a lot less. Thankfully, like I said, the game seems to cache well and subsequent loaads went smoother. I assume this'll be used to good effect in the full game.

[Johan]

My hope is that the PS3 will be $100-$200 less next year and that it will have lots of cool games, at which point I will probably buy it and start being a fanboy for it.

I hope all of the systems go down in price by then as well, but I think it might be more likely that we'll see bundles which increase the value through next year; maybe a $100 drop at holiday '07?

I enjoyed the DR demo to a point, but it felt a bit to me like a hack-and-slash button-mash...I don't know; we'll see.

[MoJoBehaumat]

What was the previous price drop rate for the PS2/Saturn??

[EvoG]

I don't see why you're straining to see an issue. I dislike the loading times, you seemingly don't... that's that. I'd prefer my games to be either seamless, or as close as possible. I can understand having to load to go outside, but I'm hoping it's just the cutscenes causing the loading screens inside. I'm not saying I won't buy it otherwise.

The reason its not an issue is simply that continuous data streaming is not common-place in games currently. MOST games have level loading, so by your apparent gaming tastes, you must have a problem 95% of the games out there.

A lot of you are acting like loading is so unusual? If the loads were outrageous, like in the Call of Juarez demo, then fine...that game takes forever. There will be a point when streaming IS common-place, and then I'd argue there to be no excuse for level loads, but until then, its unrealistic to complain about it.

I will agree, trying to navigate in and out of structures in Oblivion was far more tedious when you settle in to the almost continous streaming of the outdoors, but I dont feel its comparable here.

To each their own. *shrugs*

[dena miscreant]

Anyone find the squirtgun, yet? Hehe...

[Rirath]

The reason its not an issue is simply that continuous data streaming is not common-place in games currently. MOST games have level loading, so by your apparent gaming tastes, you must have a problem 95% of the games out there.

A lot of you are acting like loading is so unusual?

As far as I can tell, there's only a couple of us. I myself wasn't even referring much to the demo, but concerns with what may be in the full game. Though, the first load did take awhile on my system. I certainly never claimed streaming is common place, only that I'd like it to be. Honestly, you're the one making this a big deal.

You're trying to win an argument nobody is having.

[gmub]

why can't they just make the demo available for everyone??!!! i'm from Mexico and i think this sucks!!

[EvoG]

Honestly, you're the one making this a big deal.

I am? :confused:

Okie dokie chief...

...but you just now said you have concerns (for the full game) as have several others intially(and not just here on EA)...

...so I was asking 'why' this would be a concern to anyone, as its not unusual(loading)...

...and you and Eternal decided to chime in.

There's 'making this a big deal' out of something...and then there's talking about it. If you didn't want to talk about it, why did you bother replying to me?(that was rhetorical, feel free to move along, so a bigger deal isn't made out of all of this...no offense intended).


Cheers

[Schnoogs]

i'm from Mexico and i think this sucks!!

Well if you think living in Mexico sucks just sneak across the border like everyone else. ;)

[Rirath]

I am? :confused:

Okie dokie chief...

...but you just now said you have concerns (for the full game) as have several others intially(and not just here on EA)...

I figured this would be the next step in this little discussion. I think the key thing missing here is that you're including feelings from people not on this forum, and applying it to what I'm saying. I can only represent my view, not the views of others, especially views I haven't read.

I replied simply because you specifically asked for someone who complained to explain it to you. Rather than say "I see", it just seems like you won't accept that loading might be an issue for some. You're making arguements specifically saying why it's "not" an issue, but that's not something you can decide for everyone else.

Yes, I have concerns. We will see.

[Kelegacy]

Kelegacy - And yet what are we talking about now instead of the demo? I'm not annoyed by the price difference or your point, but by your broken record, repetitive annoying behavior. You're making the mistake of thinking that I give a fuck about your point when it's your behavior that is obnoxious.
Get over it. I find your behavior obnoxious as well. You people keep trying to rebut me, but the fact of the matter is the PS3 is 499 for GAMING fans, not BLU-RAY LOVERS. GET OVER IT.

[EvoG]

...Rather than say "I see", it just seems like you won't accept that loading might be an issue for some. You're making arguements specifically saying why it's "not" an issue, but that's not something you can decide for everyone else.

Yes, I have concerns. We will see.

Okay there was something missing...

...what I was asking on why loading was an issue was in fact, why is loading an issue when 95% of the games have loading? As it is, DR does not have extraordinarily long load times...so WHY all of a sudden does it matter here? Is it some sort of "next-gen" expectation for whomever? Did they only ever play GTA and Wind Waker, never knowing of the world of data loading?

I contrasted all this by stating that games such as Call of Juarez (at least the demo), had INCREDIBLY long load times, to the point that its actually worth noting. DR's loading is about 4 seconds (not 3, sorry), so whats the deal?

This isn't 'defending' DR's loading as much as it is questioning how this is even worth mentioning, as it is NOT unique. Do you see what I'm saying? If loading in games was in fact NOT the norm, THEN it would be worth noting, but as it stands, its no different than the majority of games out there.

Regardless if one or two or twenty people said it, either here or elsewhere, my question only need be aimed at ONE person who feels loading is a problem, and have them explain why in the grand scheme of things?

I 'personally' don't care, and, if you reread my posts, my worded-inflection was more of disbelief than rabid fanboy vehemence. Hence why I continued to be baffled at me alledgedly making a big deal out of this.

[Savok]

I see it like this

I can have open spaces with oceans of zombies that has no chance of slowdown, or I can have seamless loading. I'll take my zombies.

And Bean, fear not, you'll always be more obnoxious then Kel, your crown is safe.

[TrackZero]

The load times were a little longer than the norm. Though remember, this is a DEMO and the area was limited to begin with. It remains to be seen how long it'll be in the retail game between load spots (for all we know, that may only happen once every half-hour -> hour). Obviously if it loaded like that every 15 minutes, it'd be kinda annoying, but I really doubt it'll be the case.

[Savok]

Obviously if it loaded like that every 15 minutes, it'd be kinda annoying, but I really doubt it'll be the case.
Another one? Are Evo and I the only people immune to whatever mutant warped reality this time making these small loading times so damn noticable to the average gamer? It's like earthquakes in LA, below a certain threshold, the average resident won't even notice them because it's LA and it has earthquakes.

You wanna bitch, bitch about Chromehounds, the loading times while short enough seem to appear every god damn menu screen. 3 seconds between seeing "loading" where it cuts you off from squad chat goes beyond that threshold I was just talking about.

[bean19]

Get over it. I find your behavior obnoxious as well. You people keep trying to rebut me, but the fact of the matter is the PS3 is 499 for GAMING fans, not BLU-RAY LOVERS. GET OVER IT.

The point is that your thread hijacking is obnoxious. We could give a fuck about the repetitive argument.

[Lekon]

Another one? Are Evo and I the only people immune to whatever mutant warped reality this time making these small loading times so damn noticable to the average gamer? It's like earthquakes in LA, below a certain threshold, the average resident won't even notice them because it's LA and it has earthquakes.

You wanna bitch, bitch about Chromehounds, the loading times while short enough seem to appear every god damn menu screen. 3 seconds between seeing "loading" where it cuts you off from squad chat goes beyond that threshold I was just talking about.


Ill bite there, the load times in online Chromehounds whenever the room had to change from someone leaving were a little silly.

For the most part, I don't even notice load times. Even Valkarie Profile seems smooth to me. Either its that I'm a patient fellow...

Or its that at age 4, I started comupting on an Atari 800 with both Disk and TAPE DRIVE. You weenies want to talk loading: Zaxxon, 22 mintues to load off of tape. I guess when that's your start into gaming, a 3 second load time isn't noticeable. :D

[EvoG]

Or its that at age 4, I started comupting on an Atari 800 with both Disk and TAPE DRIVE. You weenies want to talk loading: Zaxxon, 22 mintues to load off of tape. I guess when that's your start into gaming, a 3 second load time isn't noticeable. :D

I think this is exactly where Savok and I (as well as yourself Lekon) gained our immunity. For me a Vic20 with that damn tape drive and a C64 with the 1541 floppy. :D

I was just on PGR3 last night, and we were talking about how little perspective younger gamers have in contrast to the later 20 and early 30 somethings have that grew up through the emerging technologies since Pong. We see just how incredibly far games have come, and I'm continued to be thrilled with each iteration, then I read about how somone is "pissed" at the jaggies on such and such game (oh and at 1280x720 of all things :rolleyes: ) and it just fries a brain cell.

I just can't fathom the arbitrary things these people niggle over. So much for games being about gameplay eh?

Anyway, ultimately I dont think anyone would argue that they 'want' loading, and that an uninterrupted experience is ideal and awesome, I just dont see loading in most any game as an issue even worth mentioning (though PGR3's race launch loading is pretty long :p )

[Savok]

I remember playing Ghosts and Goblins I think it was (Ghouls and Ghosts the first one? I don't know anymore), on an XT. Fucker had this countdown at the top of the screen starting a bit over 400. Of course it was a lying counter in that it in no way resembled seconds and instead acted like a progress bar without the bar. It'd take something like 10 minutes to load, only for you to be dead in 5 seconds since it was G&G. Still, with a few lives and next load time being a shitload shorter, it was ok once past the initial horror.

[JudasGoat]

1up.com (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3152674) has posted their review of Dead Rising, earning a very respectable 8.0. According to the review, it hits all the right points that I care about. Innovative, fun, voice acting, etc. I'm looking forward to this even more now, which is quite an astronomical amount already.

[absolut taco]

though PGR3's race launch loading is pretty long :p
At least you can chat with your co-racers!

[EvoG]

This is very true...as long as they stay reasonably sober :D

[Lekon]

Drunk PGR3? Brilliant! I never thought of trying that.


I don't drink often, but I admit: Tipsy playing Burnout 3 made my scores a lot better.

[absolut taco]

Drunk PGR3? Brilliant! I never thought of trying that.


I don't drink often, but I admit: Tipsy playing Burnout 3 made my scores a lot better.
The drunker the better.