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fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:06 AM
It's like deja vu all over again... Once touted as another feather in the PS3's cap, Computer & Video Games (http://www.computerandvideogames.com) has posted a preview of Mercenaries 2: World in Flames - including news of a planned Xbox 360 release.

You can read it here (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=143395).

World in flames has so far only been announced for PlayStation 3, but although we can't actually tell you why, we've got it on very good authority that it will be Xbox 360 bound, even if there's a short PS3 exclusive period first. Pandemic haven't even signed a publisher yet, but we can tell you that it won't be LucasArts/Activision again.

Only Mattias, a character who survived the first game, has been revealed so far, but shady silhouettes in official wallpapers reveal a team of four this time, and it looks like a second woman will be joining the previous team of three ExOps mercenaries, possibly as a sniper. We'd bet from the silhouettes that strong-but-slow Chris Jacobs will return, along with stealthy Hong Kong femme fatale Jennifer Mui and this fourth mystery woman.
Mercenaries was one of my favorite games on Xbox, so I have very high hopes for this!

absolut taco
07-26-2006, 08:09 AM
Here we go again! How long until this derails into a "PS3 has a bigger dick than teh 360"? Can we beat the 200+ posts in the Assassin's Creed thread?

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:10 AM
Here we go again! How long until this derails into a "PS3 has a bigger dick than teh 360"? Can we beat the 200+ posts in the Assassin's Creed thread?
Ahh, you gotta love fanboy wars! :)

Kelegacy
07-26-2006, 08:17 AM
Ahh, you gotta love fanboy wars! :)
No, no you don't.

If this sort of thing becomes the norm, multiple consoles will be irrelevant. I guess that's good...but it can also be bad. I can't believe Sony is slipping in regards to securing some big exclusives.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:21 AM
No, no you don't.

If this sort of thing becomes the norm, multiple consoles will be irrelevant. I guess that's good...but it can also be bad. I can't believe Sony is slipping in regards to securing some big exclusives.
I was, of course, kidding!

I don't think it's Sony slipping. I think it's more a case of developers finally trusting Microsoft. Oh, and I'm sure money also plays a part...

It's been said before, but this 'next generation' is going to be played on a mostly even playing field - it will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Siraris
07-26-2006, 08:22 AM
This I would believe more than the Assassins Creed article, as this clearly states them saying they have a source that says it is coming for 360. The AC preview said nothing of the sort.

Montolio
07-26-2006, 08:22 AM
Never doubted a 360 version. These games just cost too much to be limited to one console.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 08:23 AM
If this sort of thing becomes the norm, multiple consoles will be irrelevant. I guess that's good...but it can also be bad. I can't believe Sony is slipping in regards to securing some big exclusives.
It is easy to believe that Sony is slipping when it comes to exclusives. The PS3 has nothing substantially different from the 360, is bitch-expensive to program for and is coming out later than the 360. Who in their right mind would make a PS3 exclusive and exile a potential 10+ million 360 gamers by the time the game is released? For what? A console that won't even be shipping many units this year and is gawd-awful expensive?

Any company making a PS3 exclusive is either foolish, paid by Sony or IS Sony.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:23 AM
This I would believe more than the Assassins Creed article, as this clearly states them saying they have a source that says it is coming for 360. The AC preview said nothing of the sort.
Oh, please. Can we concentrate on this thread and not the AC one?

Adam Blue
07-26-2006, 08:28 AM
I'm not a big fan of GTA-style games, but when they put you in a more specific role or univerese, it gets my attention. I played the hell out of the first Mercs game and it's good to hear this will be on the 360. Seemed obvious, but I was waiting to hear something.

Siraris
07-26-2006, 08:35 AM
Oh, please. Can we concentrate on this thread and not the AC one?

How about you read the first two posts in this thread, one of which being yours.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 08:36 AM
How about you read the first two posts in this thread, one of which being yours.
Try reading post #5 where he said he was kidding. :rolleyes:

Montolio
07-26-2006, 08:37 AM
Grab some more coffee guys, it's too early in the day to be cranky yet.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:40 AM
How about you read the first two posts in this thread, one of which being yours.
Try stepping off your soapbox for a second to appreciate humor and sarcasm!

DropD98
07-26-2006, 08:43 AM
Thank God they are making a 360 version! The first one is one of my all time favorite games. I had so much fun with that game, I played it through three times just so I could play each character and hear the different dialogue...

And Montolio, shouldn't you be here at work you slacker?! LOL

Kelegacy
07-26-2006, 08:46 AM
I was, of course, kidding!

I don't think it's Sony slipping. I think it's more a case of developers finally trusting Microsoft. Oh, and I'm sure money also plays a part...

It's been said before, but this 'next generation' is going to be played on a mostly even playing field - it will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.
I know you were kidding!

I think it comes down to two things: Ease of development (if the 360 is far better to develop for) and even more importantly, money.

The PS3 isn't as hard to develop for as the PS2, but it isn't as easy as the 360. And we know MS has greased many a palm with the 360 to garner support. I think Sony needs to do the same or suffer the consequences.

(Though they'll still have the Japanese software factor, which is incredibly strong--most multiplatform games we've seen so far are western-made)

Yadneb
07-26-2006, 08:50 AM
I am very excited about this game coming to the 360 since I will not be able to afford a ps3 for quite awhile. As for the whole console wars thing, I think it benefits gamers as a whole to have a competitive market, so if Sony falls one rung down the ladder this generation I will certainly not be too upset, as I doubt they are in any danger of being put out of the gaming business. I am also really excited to see that Nintendo seems to be picking up some momentum with the DS and Wii...

Montolio
07-26-2006, 08:51 AM
Thank God they are making a 360 version! The first one is one of my all time favorite games. I had so much fun with that game, I played it through three times just so I could play each character and hear the different dialogue...

And Montolio, shouldn't you be here at work you slacker?! LOLHey, I may be out sick but that doesn't stop me from checking out all things Evil and Avatar DropD98, so shhh don't blow my cover.

I knew you'd be all over this story haha.

Kelegacy
07-26-2006, 08:52 AM
Who in their right mind would make a PS3 exclusive and exile a potential 10+ million 360 gamers by the time the game is released?

Any company making a PS3 exclusive is either foolish, paid by Sony or IS Sony.

Kamalot. This happens all the time. The XBox had exclusives even though it was behind the PS2. The PS2 had exclusives despite being behind the Dreamcast. The PS3 will have exclusives despite a lead by the 360. This is the nature of the beast. First to market means you'll have a lead no matter what. A lead doesn't mean you'll win, and a lead doesn't mean the competition is dead in the water.

Please, oh please don't look at the world through lenses that are not your prescription strength.

Mike Jones
07-26-2006, 08:53 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3? This means we've only just seen what the PS3 is capable of doing at such an early stage. Wow think how the games will be when their running 5/5 on the PS3.

This is correct. We estimate that we are currently only tapping around 30% of the PS3's potential power.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:54 AM
I know you were kidding!

I think it comes down to two things: Ease of development (if the 360 is far better to develop for) and even more importantly, money.

The PS3 isn't as hard to develop for as the PS2, but it isn't as easy as the 360. And we know MS has greased many a palm with the 360 to garner support. I think Sony needs to do the same or suffer the consequences.

(Though they'll still have the Japanese software factor, which is incredibly strong--most multiplatform games we've seen so far are western-made)
You raise a good point, Kelegacy. Can Sony survive if they only 'win' in Japan?

Montolio
07-26-2006, 08:56 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3? This means we've only just seen what the PS3 is capable of doing at such an early stage. Wow think how the games will be when their running 5/5 on the PS3.

This is correct. We estimate that we are currently only tapping around 30% of the PS3's potential power.I'm not sure Mike Jones, but whether it's Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony . . . don't drink the Kool-Aid man.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 08:57 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3? This means we've only just seen what the PS3 is capable of doing at such an early stage.
Where on earth did you hear that? Linkage?

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 08:59 AM
The XBox had exclusives even though it was behind the PS2. The PS2 had exclusives despite being behind the Dreamcast. The PS3 will have exclusives despite a lead by the 360. This is the nature of the beast. First to market means you'll have a lead no matter what. A lead doesn't mean you'll win, and a lead doesn't mean the competition is dead in the water.The cost of game development is several times what it was in the PS2/Dreamcast days. Any 3rd party banking solely on a overly complicated, expensive console that has yet to be released is completely foolish. Publishers know this, that is why Mercenaries 2 couldn't secure a publisher when they were PS3-only. Who would want to back such a move when it is almost guaranteed not to be profitable?

digitalErich
07-26-2006, 09:00 AM
who teaches these kids math these days...1/5 = 30%?

bKangy
07-26-2006, 09:01 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3? This means we've only just seen what the PS3 is capable of doing at such an early stage. Wow think how the games will be when their running 5/5 on the PS3.

This is correct. We estimate that we are currently only tapping around 30% of the PS3's potential power.

IT NEEDS MORE JIGGAWATTS

Mike Jones
07-26-2006, 09:01 AM
Where on earth did you hear that? Linkage?

Straight from a dev

http://www.mercs2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136&page=27

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 09:02 AM
The cost of game development is several times what it was in the PS2/Dreamcast days. Any 3rd party banking solely on a overly complicated, expensive console that has yet to be released is completely foolish. Publishers know this, that is why Mercenaries 2 couldn't secure a publisher when they were PS3-only. Who would want to back such a move when it is almost guaranteed not to be profitable?
The story with Merc. 2 and publishers is not as straightforward as you make out. It had zero to do with the title being exclusive to PS3.

absolut taco
07-26-2006, 09:04 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3?
The E3 '05 Killzone "demo" looked like it was using about 18/5 of the PS3's potential. :D

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 09:06 AM
The story with Merc. 2 and publishers is not as straightforward as you make out. It had zero to do with the title being exclusive to PS3.
July 7, 2006 - The sequel to the original Mercenaries has, thus far, traveled a rocky road. The original title, published by LucasArts on Xbox and PS2, hit early in 2005 and received rave reviews, apparently garnering attention for being the number one new IP to hit stores shelves that year.

But this sequel? Boy, oh, boy. At E3, Pandemic appeared in front of journalists confident and excited to say that the game is in development for the PS3 and that no publisher had been signed up for it. Huh? No, LucasArts was not part of any publishing deal, and still isn't, and Pandemic's plans didn't include an Xbox 360 version. The whole thing sounded fishy. It was as if Pandemic, which owns the rights to the intellectual property, wanted too much money for any publisher to bite. Either that, or most of the few remaining publishers want to publish games they can own the IP rights to, and Mercenaries 2's IP already has an owner.

When we spoke with a Pandemic representative today we learned the developer has softened its tone on the subject of systems. Officially, Mercenaries 2: World in Flames is still only scheduled for PS3, and officially there still is no publisher. However, unlike the staunch rhetoric we heard before, now Pandemic is definitely considering it. "There is a possibility of it coming to Xbox 360," the PR representative told IGN.com. "Right now, we have PS3 development kits and it's on PS3, and there is no announcement, but we're definitely condsidering Xbox 360. There is still a lot of time and we haven't ruled the Xbox 360 out. We'll have some news to announce in the next couple of months."
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/717/717150p1.html


Make of it what you will. I see that is Company A developing a game for the PS3. Nobody wants to publish the game for the PS3 cause there isn't a decent way to make money off of it at this point. There are millions of 360s available in the wild and 0 PS3s. Even at the the dawn of 2007, the 360 will outnumber the ps3 several times over. What publisher in their right mind would fund a PS3 exclusive of this caliber?

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 09:09 AM
The E3 '05 Killzone "demo" looked like it was using about 18/5 of the PS3's potential. :D
LMAO! Quoted for truth.

Why don't we see more PS3 videos that look like Killzone E3-05?

Montolio
07-26-2006, 09:13 AM
Really good information Kamalot.

The Iron Weasel
07-26-2006, 09:14 AM
Is it true that all the games shown at E3 were running only 1/5 the potential of the
PS3? This means we've only just seen what the PS3 is capable of doing at such an early stage. Wow think how the games will be when their running 5/5 on the PS3.

This is correct. We estimate that we are currently only tapping around 30% of the PS3's potential power.

The same can proabably be said for the 360, they haven't tapped all the power of the 360 yet, give devs more time with both the PS3 and 360 hardware to see what they can really do.

needoptic
07-26-2006, 09:14 AM
I will give them creds for that dirt track racing game. That looks very very good and somewhat comparable to their prerenders. It's just sad that I won't be getting a piece of hardware for $600.00 just to play it.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 09:14 AM
July 7, 2006 - The sequel to the original Mercenaries has, thus far, traveled a rocky road. The original title, published by LucasArts on Xbox and PS2, hit early in 2005 and received rave reviews, apparently garnering attention for being the number one new IP to hit stores shelves that year.

But this sequel? Boy, oh, boy. At E3, Pandemic appeared in front of journalists confident and excited to say that the game is in development for the PS3 and that no publisher had been signed up for it. Huh? No, LucasArts was not part of any publishing deal, and still isn't, and Pandemic's plans didn't include an Xbox 360 version. The whole thing sounded fishy. It was as if Pandemic, which owns the rights to the intellectual property, wanted too much money for any publisher to bite. Either that, or most of the few remaining publishers want to publish games they can own the IP rights to, and Mercenaries 2's IP already has an owner.

When we spoke with a Pandemic representative today we learned the developer has softened its tone on the subject of systems. Officially, Mercenaries 2: World in Flames is still only scheduled for PS3, and officially there still is no publisher. However, unlike the staunch rhetoric we heard before, now Pandemic is definitely considering it. "There is a possibility of it coming to Xbox 360," the PR representative told IGN.com. "Right now, we have PS3 development kits and it's on PS3, and there is no announcement, but we're definitely condsidering Xbox 360. There is still a lot of time and we haven't ruled the Xbox 360 out. We'll have some news to announce in the next couple of months."
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/717/717150p1.html


Make of it what you will. I see that is Company A developing a game for the PS3. Nobody wants to publish the game for the PS3 cause there isn't a decent way to make money off of it at this point. There are millions of 360s available in the wild and 0 PS3s. Even at the the dawn of 2007, the 360 will outnumber the ps3 several times over. What publisher in their right mind would fund a PS3 exclusive of this caliber?
As I said earlier, it's not this straighforward! Make of that what you will! :D

Mike Jones
07-26-2006, 09:15 AM
LMAO! Quoted for truth.

Why don't we see more PS3 videos that look like Killzone E3-05?

UT 2007 looks better...

SexualChoc
07-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Online Co-op? Build your own army? Fuck yes.

danhoo
07-26-2006, 09:19 AM
July 7, 2006 - The sequel to the original Mercenaries has, thus far, traveled a rocky road. The original title, published by LucasArts on Xbox and PS2, hit early in 2005 and received rave reviews, apparently garnering attention for being the number one new IP to hit stores shelves that year.

But this sequel? Boy, oh, boy. At E3, Pandemic appeared in front of journalists confident and excited to say that the game is in development for the PS3 and that no publisher had been signed up for it. Huh? No, LucasArts was not part of any publishing deal, and still isn't, and Pandemic's plans didn't include an Xbox 360 version. The whole thing sounded fishy. It was as if Pandemic, which owns the rights to the intellectual property, wanted too much money for any publisher to bite. Either that, or most of the few remaining publishers want to publish games they can own the IP rights to, and Mercenaries 2's IP already has an owner.

When we spoke with a Pandemic representative today we learned the developer has softened its tone on the subject of systems. Officially, Mercenaries 2: World in Flames is still only scheduled for PS3, and officially there still is no publisher. However, unlike the staunch rhetoric we heard before, now Pandemic is definitely considering it. "There is a possibility of it coming to Xbox 360," the PR representative told IGN.com. "Right now, we have PS3 development kits and it's on PS3, and there is no announcement, but we're definitely condsidering Xbox 360. There is still a lot of time and we haven't ruled the Xbox 360 out. We'll have some news to announce in the next couple of months."
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/717/717150p1.html


Make of it what you will. I see that is Company A developing a game for the PS3. Nobody wants to publish the game for the PS3 cause there isn't a decent way to make money off of it at this point. There are millions of 360s available in the wild and 0 PS3s. Even at the the dawn of 2007, the 360 will outnumber the ps3 several times over. What publisher in their right mind would fund a PS3 exclusive of this caliber?

I dunno Kamalot, that's one possibility. But another possibility is that Pandemic wanted too much money, or LucasArts didn't want to pay enough money, and that these were purely greed-based decisions that had nothing to do with the development platform. Based on the above info, it's pretty much pure speculation either way.

Fitbabits apparently knows the truth, but isn't telling :-)

Metal Jesus
07-26-2006, 09:24 AM
I loved the original game on Xbox... I will definitely pick up the X360 sequel!

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 09:26 AM
I dunno Kamalot, that's one possibility. But another possibility is that Pandemic wanted too much money, or LucasArts didn't want to pay enough money, and that these were purely greed-based decisions that had nothing to do with the development platform. Based on the above info, it's pretty much pure speculation either way.

Fitbabits apparently knows the truth, but isn't telling :-)
Yes, well, anyway... Look. Over there. :)

Salesmunn
07-26-2006, 09:35 AM
Try reading post #5 where he said he was kidding. :rolleyes:

Can't really blame someone for not finding sarcasm in the text. Need to keep the :D in a comment if you're kidding.

Salesmunn
07-26-2006, 09:37 AM
Online Co-op? Build your own army? Fuck yes.

I agree. Online co-op is a yummy!

Montolio
07-26-2006, 09:38 AM
I dunno Kamalot, that's one possibility. But another possibility is that Pandemic wanted too much money, or LucasArts didn't want to pay enough money, and that these were purely greed-based decisions that had nothing to do with the development platform. Based on the above info, it's pretty much pure speculation either way.

Fitbabits apparently knows the truth, but isn't telling :-)I've read recently that LucasArts has pulled in its focus in an effort to stop making games that suck and Activision is making drastic changes to save itself, so it makes sense that neither one of those partners are available this time around.

Now that Pandemic and Bioware have joined forces, I'm sure they're in a really strong position to pick exactly which publisher they want. The Mercenaries IP is very successful after all.

It's an interesting story to follow.

I'll bet you 100 Evil Avatar Points that Fitbabits knows as much as we know meaning nothing more that hasn't been discussed in this thread already. He would never hold out on the faithful readers here or would he . . .

Flatpicker
07-26-2006, 09:43 AM
I loved the first, Will be getting the 2nd even if I don't have a ps3 to play it on.
If they come out for the 360 i'll be there day 1.

Reanimated
07-26-2006, 09:45 AM
Can't wait to get the 360 version of this with enhanced texture resolution. :)

danhoo
07-26-2006, 09:46 AM
I've read recently that LucasArts has pulled in its focus in an effort to stop making games that suck and Activision is making drastic changes to save itself, so it makes sense that neither one of those partners are available this time around.

Now that Pandemic and Bioware have joined forces, I'm sure they're in a really strong position to pick exactly which publisher they want. The Mercenaries IP is very successful after all.

It's an interesting story to follow.

Indeed. The funny thing is, I used to work for Pandemic, so if I really wanted to find out what happened, I guess I could email some folks. But it's really none of my business, and as far as I'm concerned, if they find a publisher and put out a good title, that's all that really matters.

I'll bet you 100 Evil Avatar Points that Fitbabits knows as much as we know meaning nothing more that hasn't been discussed in this thread already. He would never hold out on the faithful readers here or would he . . .

Oh, I think he knows. Knows too much, that is. Fit, I'll make you a deal -- spill what you know, and I'll tell you what really happened with the cancelled Midway project at Pandemic, or what what the original Mercenaries was going to be before LucasArts was interested in it. I kid, I kid.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 09:49 AM
Can't really blame someone for not finding sarcasm in the text. Need to keep the :D in a comment if you're kidding.
Do you really need someone to place a label on a dog, even though the thing in front of you looks and smells like one? The sarcasm was there for all to see - people just need to think before they post.

absolut taco
07-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Can't wait to get the 360 version of this with enhanced texture resolution. :)
Is there an echo in here? ;)

Zanzibar
07-26-2006, 10:04 AM
30% of power = 1/1 CPUs and 0/7 SPEs. ;)

Expugnare
07-26-2006, 10:06 AM
Was this announcement really a surprise to anyone?

And Mike Jones go retake 4th grade math, it might teach you basic fraction-decimal conversion.

DaedalusFolly
07-26-2006, 10:08 AM
I've read recently that LucasArts has pulled in its focus in an effort to stop making games that suck

That'll be the day.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 10:09 AM
Was this announcement really a surprise to anyone?

And Mike Jones go retake 4th grade math, it might teach you basic fraction-decimal conversion.
And then go brush up on your comprehension, otherwise what Sponge wrote will sail right over your head! :)

Goronmon
07-26-2006, 10:15 AM
IMO, the combat in Mercenaries was far, far superior to that of any of the GTA games, its obvious I am quite excited for a sequel. Of course, having it come out on the 360 means I might actually be able to own a copy in the not-too-distant future.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 10:23 AM
Do you really need someone to place a label on a dog, even though the thing in front of you looks and smells like one? The sarcasm was there for all to see - people just need to think before they post.
Fit! Are you saying your sarcasm smells dog-like? :p

Johan
07-26-2006, 10:39 AM
If this sort of thing becomes the norm, multiple consoles will be irrelevant.

Too true; seems the Wii is looking better and better, if not merely for its uniqueness. PS3 and 360 may come down to a battle between "I'd prefer a next-gen movie player" or an "I prefer the ease and functionality of Live" because at this point, those two are looking more and more similar, except in BluRay and online (until Sony shows me what's under their skirt with online, I'll take Live over their online vaporware).

And it's quite likely that these multi-platform titles will barely use the extra power of the PS3...just like last generation, when Xbox versions were really just barely prettier than their PS2 counterparts.

So its either Wii60 OR PSWii

Venkman
07-26-2006, 10:52 AM
Here we go again! How long until this derails into a "PS3 has a bigger dick than teh 360"?

I'd say right about the 2nd post. :)

thecrazyd
07-26-2006, 11:03 AM
Can't wait to get the 360 version of this with enhanced texture resolution. :)
Are you gonna say that in every PS3 - 360 thread? So long as you are prepared to be disapointed, then go ahead and get excited.

51|RandoM
07-26-2006, 11:08 AM
You raise a good point, Kelegacy. Can Sony survive if they only 'win' in Japan?

Sure they can, at least their videogaming unit can. Be a big slap in the face for them, though.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 11:09 AM
Fit! Are you saying your sarcasm smells dog-like? :p
Well, given that I replaced toilet with dog before posting it, I'll let y'all decide! :)

Expugnare
07-26-2006, 11:13 AM
Well, given that I replaced toilet with dog before posting it, I'll let y'all decide! :)
Sarcasm drinks from the toilet like a dog? Huh?

Kelegacy
07-26-2006, 11:14 AM
Are you gonna say that in every PS3 - 360 thread? So long as you are prepared to be disapointed, then go ahead and get excited.
He only says this stuff to get people riled up and garner himself some attention. He's lucky I'm not a moderator with the power of banhammer, because his ass would have been gone a long time ago. Pumped'Up was banned and he was no different than Reanimated.

Again, there's the ignore function, but I hate using it.

torrefaction
07-26-2006, 11:23 AM
It's an interesting story to follow.

I'll bet you 100 Evil Avatar Points that Fitbabits knows as much as we know meaning nothing more that hasn't been discussed in this thread already. He would never hold out on the faithful readers here or would he . . .

Eh, it's not unfeasible at all that he knows something. If he did, and he said it, he wouldn't be privy to that information anymore. Which would suck for him.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 11:31 AM
Eh, it's not unfeasible at all that he knows something. If he did, and he said it, he wouldn't be privy to that information anymore. Which would suck for him.
We'd all be privy to the information, and he wouldn't be privy to the SOURCE. :rolleyes:

thecrazyd
07-26-2006, 11:42 AM
Again, there's the ignore function, but I hate using it.
Same here, cause you can still see when they post, just not what they say. It bugs me.

51|RandoM
07-26-2006, 11:50 AM
Same here, cause you can still see when they post, just not what they say. It bugs me.

They're talking about you all the time, trust me.

Mr.Condescension
07-26-2006, 12:08 PM
It's not particularly surprising to see a US developer making their games multiplatform. Most of them were multiplatform last generation, as far as I'm concerned. The real key is getting the Japanese developers to jump ship to MS (or go multiplatform). I believe that is where the PS2 exclusives that people were most interested in were from last generation, and I see that being more the case this generation. PS3 will have many more Japanese games, and most other regions will port their games to both.

You raise a good point, Kelegacy. Can Sony survive if they only 'win' in Japan?

I think a 'win' in Japan will have consequences globally. If Sony wins the support of the Japanese developers again, I don't think it would be possible to 'lose' in the other areas simply due to the software exclusives from that region.

Can't wait to get the 360 version of this with enhanced texture resolution. :)

Hopefully Pandemic wouldn't opt for being as lazy as Starbreeze on that front. Read the last 5 pages of the AC thread for details on this issue (but you already know that and are just trolling ;) ).

And Mike Jones go retake 4th grade math, it might teach you basic fraction-decimal conversion.

He was making a direct quote, actually. On the mercs2 forum, that he later linked, someone asked a dev if it is true that they're using 1/5 the power of the PS3 as another dev at E3 had suggested. His answer was they were using approximately 30% of the PS3's power. Mike posted the question and answer and it looked like one statement.

Kamalot
07-26-2006, 12:26 PM
I think a 'win' in Japan will have consequences globally. If Sony wins the support of the Japanese developers again, I don't think it would be possible to 'lose' in the other areas simply due to the software exclusives from that region.
Except it looks like Wii is poised to sweep up Japan the same way they are doing with the DS (http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm).

Where would Sony be then?

Mr.Condescension
07-26-2006, 12:34 PM
Except it looks like Wii is poised to sweep up Japan the same way they are doing with the DS (http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm).

Where would Sony be then?

That would depend on which polls you're tracking. Two new polls in Japan, one on amazon.com and also another site have the PS3 firmly leading the Wii in interest. That could go either way. I'm really not so sure that the Wii and the PS3 will be in competition for exclusives anyway. The difference in graphics and input are so strikingly different (check out the Wii COD3 picks....yikes!) I can't really envision developers picking one or the other for all their games. Some games will work really well with the Wii controller, and others will need computing and graphics power.

IRONGUSTAV
07-26-2006, 01:20 PM
the problem with pandemic and the no publisher scenery was a easy one ,they have a lot more cache now with the sucess of their games,they want better conditions and lucas wont give them what they asked

and about kamelot constant bashing and dooming on all things sony,dude,u will surprised about how many developers are pushing ps3 games on the next months and next year ( TGS will be a example)

by the way,i love mercs2 for xbox360,for the xbox live coop,but CVG has a historial of fake news or news taken out of their asses

as always sorry for my broken english xD

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 01:24 PM
as always sorry for my broken english xD
No need to apologize. None at all.

Com_Gaunt
07-26-2006, 01:29 PM
It sure is a must buy for me.
I especially liked this part:

The sequel will be even more freeform than the original and you can set up your own private military company to employ more mercs for contract work. Using them for retribution may become necessary as some employers change their minds about payment post-job. And with satellite-guided mini-nukes at your disposal, they could pay very dearly for crossing you.

The whole concept of doing a mission, your employer not wanting to pay up and getting back at them sounds awesome :)

EvoG
07-26-2006, 01:52 PM
It sure is a must buy for me.
I especially liked this part:



The whole concept of doing a mission, your employer not wanting to pay up and getting back at them sounds awesome :)


This actually sounds awesome as hell. :D

More importantly, lets pray they use real vehicular physics this time around. Nothing is more baffling than hitting the end of the (invisible) collsion volume on a bridge or train rail, and having a 65 ton tank go popping up front over back, dead stop.

BF2 = Best tank physics ever...if not all of its vehicles.

tombofsoldier
07-26-2006, 02:50 PM
Mercenaries rocked! Hopefully with this next game they'll finally have the power to do what they wanted in the first one. If you watch the early trailers you can see bildings flying and spewing rubble all over the place instead of just kinda dissapearing like they did in the final release.

IRONGUSTAV
07-26-2006, 03:04 PM
i have seen some reel vide ofrom e3 here in the office and the work they have done with fire ( yes FIre) its awesome,fire its very important element on this game

Magnanimous Gnome
07-26-2006, 06:06 PM
as always sorry for my broken english xD


As Fit already said, there's no need to apoligize. That post was actually well thought out and very understandable. Much improved over the ones you got attacked for previously - keep up the good work and welcome to the community! :)

Magnanimous Gnome
07-26-2006, 06:06 PM
He only says this stuff to get people riled up and garner himself some attention. He's lucky I'm not a moderator with the power of banhammer, because his ass would have been gone a long time ago. Pumped'Up was banned and he was no different than Reanimated.

Again, there's the ignore function, but I hate using it.


Pumped'Up was banned? When did this occur? Link?

Expugnare
07-26-2006, 07:34 PM
Pumped'Up was banned? When did this occur? Link?
No, he wasn't (unfortunately). I dunno what Kel was talking about.

Kelegacy
07-26-2006, 08:07 PM
No, he wasn't (unfortunately). I dunno what Kel was talking about.
Hmm. Well, maybe it was a temporary ban? I remember seeing the words "banned" under his name for a while, and I even was in the thread where he was smited. This was weeks or maybe a month ago, so I don't know.

Expugnare
07-26-2006, 08:10 PM
Hmm. Well, maybe it was a temporary ban? I remember seeing the words "banned" under his name for a while, and I even was in the thread where he was smited. This was weeks or maybe a month ago, so I don't know.
Hmm, I looked up his name in the member list and it said Evil Dead still.

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:30 PM
Hmm, I looked up his name in the member list and it said Evil Dead still.
He was banned for a short period as a 'friendly' reminder that his behavior leading up to the ban will no longer be tolerated.

Expugnare
07-26-2006, 08:41 PM
He was banned for a short period as a 'friendly' reminder that his behavior leading up to the ban will no longer be tolerated.
Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

If you don't know, call Bootsy! (tm)

fitbabits
07-26-2006, 08:44 PM
Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

If you don't know, call Bootsy! (tm)
Ooh, I like that! :D

IRONGUSTAV
07-26-2006, 09:02 PM
As Fit already said, there's no need to apoligize. That post was actually well thought out and very understandable. Much improved over the ones you got attacked for previously - keep up the good work and welcome to the community! :)

thank you, i really started to learn english eight months ago

fitbabits
07-27-2006, 06:58 AM
thank you, i really started to learn english eight months ago
That's cool. You seem to have a good grasp of the language (and you've not resorted to communicating in AOL/IM speak, which is commendable).

StuMan35
07-27-2006, 07:54 AM
Any idea when the OG version will be backwards compatible?

fitbabits
07-27-2006, 07:56 AM
Any idea when the OG version will be backwards compatible?
At the current rate of BC updates, probably some time round the release of the PlayStation 4.

And welcome to EvAv!

StuMan35
07-27-2006, 08:23 AM
thanks...long time reader, first time poster..

Really hate the backwards priority