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Mdot23
07-20-2006, 06:42 AM
Gamer Andy (http://www.gamerandy.com) is reporting that they have recieved exclusive word from a source "in the know" who asked to remain anonymous that Red Octane is hard at work not only on a second PS2 iteration of their DDR-gone-electric gaming sensation, Guitar Hero, but also developing a version for the Xbox 360! They go on to speculate the possibility of downloadable tracks through the marketplace, Live head to head, etc. Follow this link (http://www.gamerandy.com/archives/2006/07/guitar_hero_hea.shtml) for the rest of the story.

Let's hope this turns out to be true. Enormous possibilities with Live, plus it makes sense to expand the franchise to other consoles.

TrackZero
07-20-2006, 08:17 AM
Sweet fucking Christ. Now I'm glad I held out buying it for my PS2. Instead I can get downloadable content!

Wyrm
07-20-2006, 08:21 AM
Shit, I'll buy it again if it comes out on 360. Play on live versus someone else? Download hundreds more songs? Wireless guitar controller? Oh fuck yes!

mkelehan
07-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Yeah, RO already said they were working on Guitar Hero 360, around the same time they confirmed GH2. And I'm pretty sure I read about it on EA.

UnderHero5
07-20-2006, 08:27 AM
I could have sworn they anounced they WEREN'T working on any versions besides ones on PS2 not too long ago.
I could be crazy though.

It would seem foolish to port a somewhat niche game to a platform with a relatively small user bade (360 vs PS2) especially when you consider the cost of making the guitar controller.

I doubt this is true.
Cool if it is though. It could be a reason for me to get a 360.

MSUStud911
07-20-2006, 08:32 AM
I read a quote from someone at Red Octane that all but confirmed a 360 version was in the works. I think it was in EGM. The guy didn't come right out and say that it was coming to 360 for sure, but said something like, "We're very interested in the 360," or something like that.

Really, Guitar Hero 360 isn't an "if" thing, but a "when" thing. They can make so much easy money on Marketplace with a game like that they'd be fools not to take advantage of it.

Wonka
07-20-2006, 08:35 AM
I would be surprised if it wasn't true. GH is not such a niche game anymore. And it would be about as easy a game to port as they come. Super easy port. Cheap to make, and plenty of temptation for extra revenue from the marketplace...

But I bet that this ends up on ALL the next gen platforms before long.

protocol_image
07-20-2006, 08:36 AM
if this is true, then somebody better make a PS2 to 360 adapter so that big-ass controller doesn't go to waste

....and yes, i'm aware that there are PS2-to-USB adapters, but the adapter itself needs to broadcast a 360 controller GUID for the system to recognize it

MSUStud911
07-20-2006, 08:38 AM
if this is true, then somebody better make a PS2 to 360 adapter so that big-ass controller doesn't go to waste
That'd be cool, but I bet they don't do it. I'm thinking Red Octane will make a 360 guitar that's wireless. How cool would that be?

bean19
07-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Sweet fucking Christ. Now I'm glad I held out buying it for my PS2. Instead I can get downloadable content!

Which is why Red Octane would be smart to not mention that they are making it for the 360 until it is like 3 months out from release or so.

protocol_image
07-20-2006, 08:42 AM
a wireless guitar would be super hella sweet.........but i'd still like to think that my "old" guitar won't be going in the closet next to my Taiko drum and Samba De Amigo Maracas......at least not so soon

joruussuun
07-20-2006, 08:47 AM
About the wireless guitar controller theories... it is my understanding Microsoft is not allowing any non-MS wireless controllers, isn't that correct? (That is why all other controllers for the 360 are wired...) I hope they make an exception for this of course, since it's a specialized device.

TheBrainKills
07-20-2006, 08:48 AM
And now I have zero reasons to want a PS2 or a PS3.

antoniogaud
07-20-2006, 08:51 AM
This is 'Grand Theft Auto 4' sized news! Where is the tatoo parlor!?

Mdot23
07-20-2006, 08:59 AM
when is GH2 suppose to be out? is before Christmas wishful thinking for a 360 version?

AniAko
07-20-2006, 09:02 AM
I hope my much needed underwear change after reading this post wasn't for nothing. I'm sure this will make PLENTY of users happy :)

TheBrainKills
07-20-2006, 09:21 AM
How is this news? this is pure speculation, some guy on a website says some one told him its in the works. Blah, this does not belong on the front page.

....cross thread bitch fest ..... ;)

dark_inchworm
07-20-2006, 09:29 AM
Oh wow! With the possibilities Live opens up, they can give us a paltry 5 songs with the game and let us buy the rest for a buck, iTunes-style!

I can't wait!

Heretic Machine
07-20-2006, 09:33 AM
Guitar Hero is pretty fucking far from being niche... Nearly every Best Buy that you walk into has a Guitar Hero display set up. There won't be a wireless controller though, Microsoft announced prior to the 360 launch that they wouldn't license out their wireless tech to third parties. Hence the reason you don't see any wireless 360 controllers except the official model.

Salesmunn
07-20-2006, 10:04 AM
I'm thinking Red Octane will make a 360 guitar that's wireless. How cool would that be?

Not to mention expensive. The wireless 360 controllers themselves are $40, it might be a more feasable option to make them wired USB and universal for PS3/360.

I'd love to have Guitar Hero on my 360. Can't wait to hear more.

MSUStud911
07-20-2006, 10:07 AM
I remember reading back when the 360 came out that the wireless tech used in the 360 controllers is actually pretty inexpensive and that the markup on those things is massive. Not sure how true that is, but at the time I remember believing the source.

Goronmon
07-20-2006, 10:07 AM
All I know is the new versions of GH better let you slow down the harder sections of songs for practice. Trying to figure out what the hell is going on in places like the solo in Symphony of Destruction on Expert just seems like an exercise in futility.

Heretic Machine
07-20-2006, 10:14 AM
I remember reading back when the 360 came out that the wireless tech used in the 360 controllers is actually pretty inexpensive and that the markup on those things is massive. Not sure how true that is, but at the time I remember believing the source.

As I just said, Microsoft doesn't license out the wireless tech.

Zanzibar
07-20-2006, 10:36 AM
As I just said, Microsoft doesn't license out the wireless tech.
Well, THAT sucks. I wonder if they'd have a connector to the wireless controller, which would still suck.

Nothing not sucky about that.

Salesmunn
07-20-2006, 10:45 AM
Well, THAT sucks. I wonder if they'd have a connector to the wireless controller, which would still suck.

Nothing not sucky about that.

Well, I guess they'd have the guitar with the 360 headphone port on it?

dena miscreant
07-20-2006, 10:47 AM
I hope my much needed underwear change after reading this post wasn't for nothing. I'm sure this will make PLENTY of users happy :)

Oh, indeed my pants were moistened!

I just hope it's true.

EvilBob46
07-20-2006, 11:01 AM
And now I have zero reasons to want a PS2

And now I have every reason to believe you're clueless or have absurd tastes in gaming.

AniAko
07-20-2006, 11:02 AM
And now I have every reason to believe you're clueless or have absurd tastes in gaming.

Likewise, LOL :D

Sl1pstream
07-20-2006, 11:13 AM
I guess I'll stick to the PS2 version since that was the reason I actually bought a PS2. Besides, I'm not that good at it, so it's not like I would get a lot of achievements.

Manzy
07-20-2006, 11:14 AM
Perhaps he meant zero reasons to justify buying a PS2? I sure as hell don't have any reasons that would make me go out and purchase one, and I do like some of the games on that console.

HALO 32
07-20-2006, 11:20 AM
sweet, it it does come to 360...well...that just be fricken sweet :D

Animated X
07-20-2006, 11:38 AM
I held of on guitar heroes for Ps2, as I am not too much into rythm games, mostly because I am very, very bad at them... well, unless P.N. 03 counts, I am pretty good at that game.

I would definately pick it up on 360, and wouldn't it be awesome if they made a new guitar with detachable, customizable faceplates?

HardScores
07-20-2006, 11:39 AM
Seeing how Activision owns them now, they have the money to go all-out for next-gen. Hope they do some other Harmonix games, too...

JudasGoat
07-20-2006, 11:46 AM
I guess I'll stick to the PS2 version since that was the reason I actually bought a PS2. Besides, I'm not that good at it, so it's not like I would get a lot of achievements.

Not sure how long you've been playing it, but keep trying. Much like a real instrument you just need practise. Play on a difficulty setting until it's actually easy, not until you can just get by and then move up to the next. You'll find yourself getting better as you start playing by muscle-memory rather than actual conscious will.

ChaosDent
07-20-2006, 11:48 AM
I'm locked in to the PS2 version with two of the existing controllers. $40 per controller is too much for me to re-buy them, so here's to at least a couple more releases for the old standby.

bean19
07-20-2006, 11:50 AM
I'm locked in to the PS2 version with two of the existing controllers. $40 per controller is too much for me to re-buy them, so here's to at least a couple more releases for the old standby.

Don't worry. You'll get them.

It's logical for Red Octane to develop this hit title for the next-gen consoles though as that is where the market is going.

Stormwatcher
07-20-2006, 12:17 PM
That makes me want a Xbox 360

TheBrainKills
07-20-2006, 01:10 PM
And now I have every reason to believe you're clueless or have absurd tastes in gaming.

Why? name one game that is not comparable to any other that I can't get the same experience on any other system. Or I should say the ones I own, the Gamecube, Xbox360 and the DSlite. oh... and the PC ... so yeah I am a bit absurd as I even went down to the local Dept. store when I was a kid to play the original Pong game.

SMES
07-20-2006, 01:27 PM
Why? name one game that is not comparable to any other that I can't get the same experience on any other system. Or I should say the ones I own, the Gamecube, Xbox360 and the DSlite. oh... and the PC ... so yeah I am a bit absurd as I even went down to the local Dept. store when I was a kid to play the original Pong game.
I agree with this post.

gzsfrk
07-20-2006, 03:18 PM
Sweet, sweet nectar....

ElPresidente
07-20-2006, 05:19 PM
Shit, I'll buy it again if it comes out on 360.

Same. Curse my inability to be happy with what I've got. :P

Why? name one game that is not comparable to any other that I can't get the same experience on any other system. Or I should say the ones I own, the Gamecube, Xbox360 and the DSlite. oh... and the PC ... so yeah I am a bit absurd as I even went down to the local Dept. store when I was a kid to play the original Pong game.

Katamari Damacy, We Love Katamari
Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdoms, etc
Gradius V
Kuri Kuri Mix
Frequency, Amplitude
Shadow of the Colossus

And so on.

I'm not going to call you an idiot for not wanting a PS2 but as another guy who owns a plethora of gaming systems (see sig) there are certainly unique gaming experiences to be had on the PS2.

Heretic Machine
07-20-2006, 06:02 PM
Katamari Damacy, We Love Katamari

Despite popular opinion, these games aren't that special. I mean, they are very good, don't get me wrong. But they certainly aren't THAT much different than anything else.

Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdoms, etc

Disgaea was awesome, I would certainly agree with that. But Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdoms were both shit. They just didn't have half of what Disgaea had to offer, I know because I own all three. I still have to buy La Pucelle though, when I can find it.

Gradius V

Schmups can be found plentiful on the Dreamcast, and that is where any schmup fan would be playing anyway.

Kuri Kuri Mix
Frequency, Amplitude

Fuck if I know what any of that is.

Shadow of the Colossus

Yes, very cool, but it still isn't that different.

I don't personally regret owning a PS2. But unless someone was a hardcore gamer that needs to have access to virtually everything, I wouldn't recommend that they pick one up these days. A Gamecube is a cheaper if they just want something to mess around with every now and then, and the 360/PS3/Wii will all three be technically superior. Of course, my opinion doesn't stop them from selling very well even in these twilight days of the 2nd 3D generation.

ElPresidente
07-20-2006, 06:36 PM
Schmups can be found plentiful on the Dreamcast, and that is where any schmup fan would be playing anyway.

Agreed but a DC wasn't in his list.

Regarding the other comments I wont go through them on a one by one basis. Because its seems we agree they are different but disagree on how different.

I also agree that I wouldn't go out and buy a PS2 now. My argument was really that the PS2 does offer some experiences you won't find on the other current generation consoles. This is also why I said I'm not going to call the guy an idiot for not wanting a PS2, that is a more than legitimate stance to take.

anakin876
07-20-2006, 07:29 PM
There are already some pretty sweet wireless mod-ed guitars in existence. Check out the red octane GH forums and you can find links to at least two different versions of a way to make the guitar wireless.

Adamtehgreat
07-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Sweet fucking Christ.
Well said. That's a must-buy!

jeffbax
07-20-2006, 09:17 PM
This would make me the happiest kid around :)

really the *only* game(s) I want a PS2 for.

Kefkataran
07-20-2006, 09:47 PM
I would be SO happy to buy this.

TheBrainKills
07-21-2006, 01:48 AM
I'm not going to call you an idiot for not wanting a PS2 but as another guy who owns a plethora of gaming systems (see sig) there are certainly unique gaming experiences to be had on the PS2.

I do like the odd Jap rpg, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Paper Mario on the Cube fulfills that itch for me and now I can get some rpg's for my DS . And as far as Smups ... well Ikaruga. I have such a backlog of games on the PC, Cube and now the DS that I have zero interest in a PS2 ...sorry I don't need to play everything. Hell I have had Gothic II sitting there waiting for me for the last 10 months.

I was tempted to buy a PS2 just for Guitar Hero though.

swillw
07-21-2006, 05:21 AM
Hope they bring it to 360, love the PS2 version

bean19
07-21-2006, 06:33 AM
TheBrainKills - You are an RPG fan and you don't own a PS2? Probably a good idea. . . I love RPGs, but couldn't get through Tales of Symphonia - very boring after a while and there is no way to make the text advance as quickly as I can read it. I own Paper Mario, but I haven't been playing it. After a while, the cutesie-ness of it really started to annoy me. Plus, I don't really like or care about any of the characters. . . the bad guys are comedic and the good guys are hard to respect because their problems are pretty small and dull.

Anyway, get a PS2. Tons of really good JRPGs. . . Final Fantasy, Xenosaga, Shadow Hearts, Wild Arms (some of them), a Tales of Game (that's much better than the GC's Symphonia one). . . and of course Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2.

Shifteh
07-21-2006, 08:31 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Guitar Hero on a 360 might actually get me to buy a 360. I refuse(d, it would seem) to buy one simply because it was a glorified Dell computer (Please read into at least some of the sarcasm) for $500 or more.

The idea of being able to download more songs would probably do it though.

However, if it's one of those "use your 'points' to get more..." then forget it.

protocol_image
07-21-2006, 08:43 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Guitar Hero on a 360 might actually get me to buy a 360. I refuse(d, it would seem) to buy one simply because it was a glorified Dell computer (Please read into at least some of the sarcasm) for $500 or more.

The idea of being able to download more songs would probably do it though.

However, if it's one of those "use your 'points' to get more..." then forget it.

Even reading into SOME of your sarcasm, that's a strange reason to not want a 360. The 360 is no more a desktop computer than the first XBOX was, or even the PS2. It's a games machine first and foremost, but it also has some great additional features that make it a usefull tool in your living room.

But yeah, IF they release this game on the 360, you will have to "use your 'points' to get more...", unless songs are free (which is not likely). But it's such an easy system to use, I don't see how you could discount the whole project based on this (proven successfull) feature.

Heretic Machine
07-21-2006, 12:34 PM
TheBrainKills - You are an RPG fan and you don't own a PS2? Probably a good idea. . . I love RPGs, but couldn't get through Tales of Symphonia - very boring after a while and there is no way to make the text advance as quickly as I can read it. I own Paper Mario, but I haven't been playing it. After a while, the cutesie-ness of it really started to annoy me. Plus, I don't really like or care about any of the characters. . . the bad guys are comedic and the good guys are hard to respect because their problems are pretty small and dull.

Anyway, get a PS2. Tons of really good JRPGs. . . Final Fantasy, Xenosaga, Shadow Hearts, Wild Arms (some of them), a Tales of Game (that's much better than the GC's Symphonia one). . . and of course Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2.

Bleh... Xenosaga is more a movie than a game, and KH aren't JRPGs. They are third-person adventure games, like Zelda but with worse control, some stats, and a party system. I couldn't get past the controls myself, but the visuals were extremly stylized and enjoyable.

Freak705
07-21-2006, 03:01 PM
GH for the 360 would be great. I was considering to buy it for the PS2, but I haven't touched it more than once a month since I bought my Xbox back in 2004. But with new songs on Marketplace, that would definitely be a very nice touch.

Johan
07-21-2006, 03:16 PM
This is the type of game the 360 needs to continue to succeed; games that go beyond the sports/FPS genres and draw in wayward PS2 players :)

Kefkataran
07-21-2006, 04:22 PM
This is the type of game the 360 needs to continue to succeed; games that go beyond the sports/FPS genres and draw in wayward PS2 players

This is the dead-on truth. Compared to the PS2, the original Xbox just didn't have enough variety, whether you're talking Guitar Hero style peripheral stuff or just weird Katamari-style games or artsy Ico stuff. The 360 really needs to spread their games out a bit more in genre, and hopefully that's what'll be happening. This could be a great step that way.