Gameworld Pronounces the PSP Dead

[fitbabits]

TheUnkownSoldier sent me a link to the following five-page article on Gameworld (http://www.gwn.com) in which they take a look at the PSP and declare that it's time it was put to rest.

You can read the article here (http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/747/) and make up your own minds.

There comes a time in every system's life when you know there really isn’t any hope left. We take a detailed look at why it’s time to lay the PSP to rest.

To date there are currently only three PSP titles that have sold over one million units. They include Grand Theft Auto: Liberty Stories with 2.84 million, Ridge Racer with 1.04 million, and Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee at 1 million. For a system that is almost a year and a half old this is yet another sign of how poorly the PSP is doing. The Xbox 360 already has three different million sellers and is less than a year old, while the DS has thirteen with only a 4 month head start (not too many games were released in that four month period either!)

There simply doesn’t seem to be any “killer app” in the future for the PSP besides maybe Gran Turismo; however, who knows when that is coming out since it has been delayed several times with still no official release date.
Some valid points are made in the article, but I think it may be a little premature to claim that the PSP is dead. Sony are far too invested in PSP-to-PS3 connectivity to let it just fade away. What do you think?

[Skytram]

I think that the PS3 is dead too.

[Kamalot]

Sony are far too invested in PSP-to-PS3 connectivity to let it just fade away. What do you think?It matters not how much Sony is invested in the PSP. If it is dead as a game platform, it is dead. Nokia keeps insisting the N-Gage is still allive. Do you know anyone in the real world that thinks so?

[MSUStud911]

I think the PSP has yet to find it's niche. It's a multimedia device, but it's not a particularly good one. It's a game player, but there aren't many great games. If devs can just tap into what the PSP is good at, instead of just relying on crappy PS2 ports, the PSP could be awesome.

[ruceree88]

I never saw the appeal of the psp. To play rehashed games from yesteryear just does not excite me. Oh boy Wipeout...again...

[StANTo]

Dead as a movie platform, dead as a games platform. So what is it? A replacement laptop/PDA on the move? The death of the device probably came with the 1.5 firmware that permitted homebrew software, but it's also the saving grace of selling it's units.

[Mason]

A weird article to have on the day that the new Valkyrie Profile came out.

[Kamalot]

http://media.gwn.com/articles_mp/52731037044bc5c17a2aca.jpg

This graph clearly indicates that the PSP and PS3 are only purchased by Tools.

[GrinR]

The PSP will definitely stand tall as one of the biggest mistakes I have ever made in predicting the success of a gaming platform.

A portable PSOne (essentially) with Widescreen (and SO beautiful a screen!), Wifi, and both solid state and optical media options? Not to mention the Sony powerhouse standing tall behind it?

Why, it's a SURE FIRE HIT! I imagined playing Final Fantasy Something-Something on my PSP on the way to work. I imagined playing a good strategy game (with all that screen real estate!). I imagined loading movies onto a Memory Stick (I bought 3 1gig MSDuos).

Well, I admitted to myself a month ago that the PSP was a bad purchase. There are really no compelling games (barring maybe Katmari - GO KATMARI!!). The endless forced firmware updates and the crippled homebrew/piracy scene makes my memory sticks useless for anything but music and movies. Speaking of which, the process to convert movies to memory stick cannot be done without ruining the aspect ratio (so much for widescreen movies) and frankly is a bitch no matter how you cut it. Music? I am not going to carry around this huge thing (comparatively) to listen to music.

So I flushed a lot of money down the toilet. And whenever Sony releases PR about the success of the UMD due to movie sales, I want to throw the fucking thing out the window.

What I find amusing now, is they plan on releasing an even larger version of the PSP, called the PS3, wherein they plan on making the same exact mistakes, only more expensively this time.

[Nighthold]

Yep. Its done. Stick a fork in it and dip it in A1.

Crappy controls, very limited games, poor sales, and the death of UMD movies....

I even owned one of these things for a while, bought it on launch and was very impressed... for about 3 weeks.

DS won this round. Time to move on.

[Kamalot]

The PSP will definitely stand tall as one of the biggest mistakes I have ever made in predicting the success of a gaming platform.

A portable PSOne (essentially) with Widescreen (and SO beautiful a screen!), Wifi, and both solid state and optical media options? Not to mention the Sony powerhouse standing tall behind it?

Why, it's a SURE FIRE HIT! I imagined playing Final Fantasy Something-Something on my PSP on the way to work. I imagined playing a good strategy game (with all that screen real estate!). I imagined loading movies onto a Memory Stick (I bought 3 1gig MSDuos).

Well, I admitted to myself a month ago that the PSP was a bad purchase. There are really no compelling games (barring maybe Katmari - GO KATMARI!!). The endless forced firmware updates and the crippled homebrew/piracy scene makes my memory sticks useless for anything but music and movies. Speaking of which, the process to convert movies to memory stick cannot be done without ruining the aspect ratio (so much for widescreen movies) and frankly is a bitch no matter how you cut it. Music? I am not going to carry around this huge thing (comparatively) to listen to music.

So I flushed a lot of money down the toilet. And whenever Sony releases PR about the success of the UMD due to movie sales, I want to throw the fucking thing out the window.

What I find amusing now, is they plan on releasing an even larger version of the PSP, called the PS3, wherein they plan on making the same exact mistakes, only more expensively this time.
Quoted for motha-f^(&ing truth!

[Returner]

The PSP is dead to me. There is nothing worth playing anymore. Lummius got old after the 1000th hour. They really don't have any killer apps

[Abednigo]

Yep. Its done. Stick a fork in it and dip it in A1.

Crappy controls, very limited games, poor sales, and the death of UMD movies....

I even owned one of these things for a while, bought it on launch and was very impressed... for about 3 weeks.

DS won this round. Time to move on.

The PSP is something I wanted but held off on buying. The DS I held off buying too, but when I finally bought it I never regretted it. The only reason I sold it was because it sat unplayed for a few months. But I recently bought a DS Lite and have no plans to get rid of it (now if I can just find Dawn of Sorrow for less than $40 I'll be happy).

The DS is definitely kicking butt. I honestly didn't expect that. Even being a big Nintendo fan I thought Sony had a good chance of making a dent, but they don't seem to done that. It seems that more people that you'd think would have gotten a PSP didn't. Or they did and have since sold it and gotten a DS instead.

[Nighthold]

The PSP is dead to me. There is nothing worth playing anymore. Lummius got old after the 1000th hour. They really don't have any killer apps

Man, Lumines is the only reason I kept it around as long as I did, and now that its coming out for Live, I have no regrets.

[Metal Jesus]

I enjoy my PSP quite a bit and I don't think it's dead. Hell, there were 4 games released for this week alone. That's not bad considering their are 8 PSP releases this month compared to 4 DS titles.

I have been playing the excellent Race Driver 2006 all week... Going to pick up the new Valkyrie Profile tomorrow. Looking forward to Loco Roco and a bunch of other great games for it this fall.

[Speed_D]

Speaking of which, the process to convert movies to memory stick cannot be done without ruining the aspect ratio (so much for widescreen movies)
I don't know what conversion tool you're using but I've had no serious problem with this. Try PSPVideo9. Some movies are a wider ratio than the PSP's screen, so you can either have black bands at the top and bottom or crop the L/R edges to make it fill the screen w/o disturbing the aspect ratio.

and frankly is a bitch no matter how you cut it.
Time consuming, yes. Difficult, no.

I like my PSP - I've put a lot of hours on it while travelling (both w/ movies and games) and I don't regret buying it. Yeah I agree they could have better selection of games but I'll get over it.

[Returner]

I enjoy my PSP quite a bit and I don't think it's dead. Hell, there were 4 games released for this week alone. That's not bad considering their are 8 PSP releases this month compared to 4 DS titles.

I have been playing the excellent Race Driver 2006 all week... Going to pick up the new Valkyrie Profile tomorrow. Looking forward to Loco Roco and a bunch of other great games for it this fall.


Race Driver 2006 & Loco Roco are fun but I wouldn't say they are killer apps. They are not a good enough reason to buy the system.

[Heretic Machine]

Meh... multimedia didn't kill the PSP. It was marketed as a gaming platform, it was a gaming platform, and the people who bought it thought of it as a gaming platform. My Sega CD could play music CD's, but even when I was like nine years old, I didn't trick myself into thinking it was a friggin stereo.

The PSP is a failure because it failed to demonstrate superiority as a handheld gaming platform against the DS. The DS has a wide variety of games, with designs that make them viable for on-the-go gaming. The PSP, generally, does not. It's games are either of terrible quality, or are better suited towards console play. Combine that with the bad press surrounding their "intentional design flaws", extremly high price (almost double the price for both the system itself, and the games), and low battery life, and it is no surprise that it failed.

Most people only expected this thing to rise up against the DS because of the Playstation brand, and as I have said before, a good brand is a good advantage. It is not a magic bullet. It will not guarentee your success against a strong competition. Especially not when you put no effort into what you are doing, and think that your brand is going to do all the work for you.

[GrinR]

I don't know what conversion tool you're using but I've had no serious problem with this. Try PSPVideo9. Some movies are a wider ratio than the PSP's screen, so you can either have black bands at the top and bottom or crop the L/R edges to make it fill the screen w/o disturbing the aspect ratio.
Time consuming, yes. Difficult, no.

"Due to limitations in the PSP's firmware, the maximum standard resolution recognized by the PSP is 320x240, and the maximum wide-screen resolution is 368x208. PSP Video 9.0 comes equipped with several preset conversion profiles at both of these resolutions, and so if your video falls under No. 1 or 2 above, all you'll need to do before converting is choose your desired and audio quality setting, by going to Setup > Profiles and choosing an Existing Quality Profile."

The key words are the first 7. I got tired of fighting Sony trying to make their crippled device shine. Sure, you can play movies on the PSP. You can do the same on your cellphone. So what. It's not worth it.

[Zurik]

Well I'm finally tired of my PSP too,I sold my DS originally to get it. Both systems feel like too many rehased games. On the DS, I really didn't feel like playing Mario Kart again after playing it a million times when it was first released a long time ago. I do enjoy Katamari on my PSP, but the controls drive me friggin' nuts! I'm only interested in the new Secret of Mana game coming to the DS, what both systems need are new RPGs, not ports that have been reworked.

[bapenguin]

I want to Love my PSP. I reallly really do. The screen is so god damn beautiful. But alas...it sits next to my PC...playing nothing but a mirror.

[Savok]

What did the most damnage was their anti-homebrew stance. It was that reason alone I never got one.

[GrinR]

What did the most damnage was their anti-homebrew stance. It was that reason alone I never got one.

Anti-homebrew, anti-movie, anti-offline, anti-mod, anti-gamer. The whole Sony perspective is "you buy, you LEAVE, dirty customah make store smell!"

[Kamalot]

Anti-homebrew, anti-movie, anti-offline, anti-mod, anti-gamer. The whole Sony perspective is "you buy, you LEAVE, dirty customah make store smell!"
Oh Snap!
:eek:

[TrackZero]

Some valid points are made in the article, but I think it may be a little premature to claim that the PSP is dead. Sony are far too invested in PSP-to-PS3 connectivity to let it just fade away. What do you think?

Totally, I mean, what would a PS3 owner use for a rear view mirror? ;)

[TrackZero]

Looking forward to Loco Roco and a bunch of other great games for it this fall.

Loco Roco is the only game I think "gee, it'd be nice to still have my PSP" for. But then I realize, regardless of whether it sells well, or poorly, it'll be ported to my PS2 within the year anyways.

[gzsfrk]

If it was PSP vs. DS Phat, then I'd say it still had the potential for an interesting race. But with the release of the DS Lite, the DS overcame it's one major flaw (clunky, ugly original design), leaving the only level of competition the games released for each platform. Thus did the DS perform a Mortal Strike of biblical proportions against the PSP (30000 MS CRIT OMGWTFBBQ!!!) as the dominant handheld gaming device this generation.

Yes, I do acknowledge it's always possible it could change. But just based on my OWN current situation as a gamer, my interest in purchasing a PSP has all but completely dissolved.

[Ferong]

I purchased one and was really happy with it for the first couple weeks when homebrew on 1.50 firmware was kicking up. At the time, it seemed like a good purchase.

About a month later after getting sick of Lumines, I was only using it to play NES titles and was leery of purchasing any games because of the mandatory firmware update that would remove the only feature of the PSP I was using. The good news is that the mandatory firmware updates made my 1.50 more desirable on eBay :D

There were a good couple weeks of Twisted Metal and Hot Shots matches over WiFi in the office, but it was definitely a short lived golden age.

[holysin]

"Due to limitations in the PSP's firmware, the maximum standard resolution recognized by the PSP is 320x240, and the maximum wide-screen resolution is 368x208. PSP Video 9.0 comes equipped with several preset conversion profiles at both of these resolutions, and so if your video falls under No. 1 or 2 above, all you'll need to do before converting is choose your desired and audio quality setting, by going to Setup > Profiles and choosing an Existing Quality Profile."

The key words are the first 7. I got tired of fighting Sony trying to make their crippled device shine. Sure, you can play movies on the PSP. You can do the same on your cellphone. So what. It's not worth it.

Err... With 1.5 you can watch xvids in 480x272 (full resolution).There´s also an option to stretch the video, in it´s widescreen and it doesn´t fit the screen, or it´s fullscreen (4:3). You can also use subtitles with it.
You can´t just copy the xvids to the memcard, you need to convert them first though.

[UnderHero5]

I too was a fool and thought the PSP would be great. I spent about 500 bucks at launch buying it, a memory card, protective case, and games... and I got a few more games shortly after launch (for a total of 9, I think).
I have not purchased a single game for it since then... there's just nothing that interests me.
It had/has a ton of potential, there just aren't any games putting it to use.

And these days, even if I see a game I'm slightly interested in, I refuse to buy it because I really want to get rid of the thing but can't bring myself to do it because of all the money I put into it... I don't want to put MORE money into it though, just in case I some day to pawn it off.

I play my DS exclusively, my PSP is sitting in it's PlayGrea Pocket case with a nice thick layer of dust on it (literally, it hasn't been touched in months).
And with the DS Lite, the DS actually has a brighter, more colorful screen than the PSP (though not as high res) which I think looks nicer than the PSP's.

I didn't buy my PSP for it's media capabilities. I just wanted it for the games, so anything in that area means nothing to me.

Loco Roco looks fun though, I might have to pick that up... maybe. (The last time I touched my PSP was to try that demo).

[Deadend]

The PSP is failing because it's a Portable Playstation 2. Almost every game on it is similar to one on the PS2, except the PS2 versions are better. See, Nintendo did the smart thing by making a system that had no equiviant to a home console.

If you notice most PSP game reviews seem to consist of "Wow! It's almost as good as having a REAL PS2 game!"

[Barrapa]

Lumines and Roco Loco have been enough for me on the games for the system. UMDs? Maybe not. Having all of my DVD collection converted to MPEG4 for long work trips is wonderful.

[AspectVoid]

The weakness of the PSP was that Sony tried to make it everything, and the fact is that there are very few people who want a device that does a little of everything. I will admit, I'm one of the few. For me, it was the right choice. I get an MP3 player, a video game player, and a tv show player in one package that fits into the front pocket of every pair of pants I own. Its a lot easier for me to carry my PSP then multiple devices.

I would not, however, recomend it to someone looking for just an MP3 player, or a portable gaming system, or a movie player. Like any jack of all trades device, it handles multiple things at an average quality at best. Its most certainly not suited to the mass public. The PS3 has a good chance to fall into this as well.

[Cubfan]

Talk about premature. I don't own a PSP, but don't think it's doing all that poorly here in the states (though the DS is selling better, especially last month) I see people with PSPs all the time on the train, whereas I haven't ever seen a DS. I still think they are 'hipper' than the DS, and that helps them sell, especially here in the city. I'm not sure about the PSP's upcoming release schedule, but a few good games and I think it'll be doing fine.

With that said, the UMD movie format is dead, and I don't see myself ever picking one up. I love the DS, but have even been dissappointed in it's big releases lately. Oh well, guess I'm the only one who thought the new Mario was mediocre and that attorney game was weak. Had a lot of fun with Brain Age though.

[Lord Nerdious]

Traded my PSP as a down payment for my 360 in June '05, kind of regretted it at the time but, in retrospect I totally made the right choice. Only game I had was Twisted Metal, and I played the absolute hell out of it.

[Demo_Boy]

I totally thought the PSP would rule the portable gaming scene, but the DS put a bullet through it's brain.

DS advantages:
Fun games you want to play.
Innovative (for games) input mechanic.
Not shy about being a game system.

[Akeldama]

With the UMD movie scene being dead, it's about time Sony let us use the full resolution of the PSP.

I'm tempted to trade my PSP in and get a DS Lite.

[archon]

I have a PSP and DS Lite and I've gotta say that I have about the same amount of games for both of them. I've had a lot of fun with both and while the DS does have games that are more specific to the system, I wouldn't call the quality of it's originality head and shoulders above the PSP's. I've seen a lot of people saying that the DS is the "original" system and that it has all the creativity, but that isn't too clear to me when they release Mario platformer #18 and Mario Kart #23. That's not to say that the PSP has been overflowing with creativity, either.
Probably the best use of the DS was either Kirby or Trauma Center, and I love both of those. Similarly, Syphon Filter really is like a console game but portable, and Burnout is about the same as that. I love all these games and I guess I'm lucky for being able to have both.

[holysin]

With the UMD movie scene being dead, it's about time Sony let us use the full resolution of the PSP.

I'm tempted to trade my PSP in and get a DS Lite.

I just posted about that, you CAN use the full resolution with xvids if you have firmware 1.5. Just search for PMPmod.

[Madhatter45]

But...but...what about Riiiiiidge Raceeeer! All kidding aside the thing was a turd. I owned one and it became a 250 dollar paperweight. Traded it in towards my 360 and never looked back.

[GrinR]

Err... With 1.5 you can watch xvids in 480x272 (full resolution).There´s also an option to stretch the video, in it´s widescreen and it doesn´t fit the screen, or it´s fullscreen (4:3). You can also use subtitles with it.
You can´t just copy the xvids to the memcard, you need to convert them first though.

Neat. Too little too late. :(

It's like hearing my ex-gf got sweet breast implants. Good for her.

[GrinR]

I just posted about that, you CAN use the full resolution with xvids if you have firmware 1.5. Just search for PMPmod.

LOL this is what I mean. "you can XYZ if you have firmware ABC"

Fuckit. Who needs that trouble?

I bought a DS lite the other day, picked up some "special hardware" and now I'm going to be set for everything. Movies, games, mods, everything. Done. Thank you.

[defcon311]

I made the mistake of buying one, but I didn't think that would be the story. Hindsight is 20/20 though. I got mine because I am going to PAX this year and I wanted music and movies while I fly out there and back. I also saw that Atlus was bringing a strat game to the system, so I thought it was just good timing.

Good: Screen, resolution, interface
Bad: LOAD TIMES and lack of good games

I love my DS and I shall leave it at that.

[Wyrm]

Lumines and Roco Loco have been enough for me on the games for the system. UMDs? Maybe not. Having all of my DVD collection converted to MPEG4 for long work trips is wonderful.

Doesn't it seem silly to pay 200 bucks for a handheld device so that you can play two games?

I bought a PSP about four months after launch and even while I was buying it, I was extremely dissapointed in the complete lack of any games worth playing. Lumines is a great game, but it gets pretty boring if it's the only one you have. I eventually bought Need for Speed, which was ok, but not nearly as good as its console counterpart, and the load times were horrendous. I kept the thing thinking that good games were coming eventually. I waited some more. I was left waiting while the DS continued to churn out quality titles that I couldn't play.

Finally, I got fed up and bought a DS. I couldn't believe I'd ever doubted Nintendo, and I vowed never to do so again. They have never let me down, and I saw innovation and thought "that's a gimmick, I want the one that looks cooler and has better graphics". Then I got my hands on one and realized that there was a reason the damned thing was selling so well. It's actually fun to play! Unlike the PSP, there were 10 games right away that I absolutely needed to try. I ended up buying about 6 within two weeks which included Castlevania, Mario Kart, Wario Ware, Trauma Surgeon, Viewtiful Joe, and Mario 64. The only game I didnt play religiously was Mario 64, but I'd played it before and it wasnt a game that aged particularly well.

Just this month I finally traded in my PSP towards credit for my 360 and I dont know why I didn't do it sooner.

My suggestion to those thinking about getting rid of your PSP: Do it now, because the price will drop again soon and you wont be able to get as much for it.

[Wyrm]

LOL this is what I mean. "you can XYZ if you have firmware ABC"

Fuckit. Who needs that trouble?

I bought a DS lite the other day, picked up some "special hardware" and now I'm going to be set for everything. Movies, games, mods, everything. Done. Thank you.

What is this special hardware you speak of?

[SymetriX]

Sony's problem was they spent so much time making the PSP technologically superior that they forgot about what it would be like to play games on. The loading is times alone are rediculous.

And why use a mechanical drive that reads a mini-CD when memory card size is so plentiful?

They got greedy, and wanted to use it for their proprietary movie format. Well, now that that's dead, what is the purpose of the mechanical drive again?

It just looks silly next to the DS with memory-card sized games and loading times which beat any console.

The second hardware problem oddly enough seems to be the processor. Certainly it is not inferior to the DS--indeed it can produce results on par with the PS2. But the problem is there isn't much demand for that power as of yet, and it seems people don't know what to do with it other than to port their PS2 library.

Of the 13 million-selling DS games, how many really rely on the 3D graphics processing capabilities? Other than a few titles which were born from 3d franchises already such as Mario 64, Kart, and Metroid come to mind right away, and the DS hardware seems more than capable to support them.

The rest, it seems, are still deeply rooted in 2D. The same can be said for many Xbox Live arcade titles.

The comparison between the two is that both handhelds and Live Arcade games are meant for quick pick-up-and-play. And from a pure gameplay perspective graphics are not the most important feature.

And it seems this knowledge is about to go to waist as yet again Sony seems to be dead-set on creating a technologically superior machine which is only partially focused on games, while also concentrating on their new media format.

Nintendo, meanwhile, is instead focusing on both gameplay and graphics. I for one hope they win, not because I am specifically in favor of one company or the next, but because I think it is what the gaming industry needs to survive.

There will always be new groundbreaking titles like Gears of War which rely on technology, but with only titles like that the gaming industry would suffer for it.

</rant>

...but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[holysin]

Neat. Too little too late. :(

It's like hearing my ex-gf got sweet breast implants. Good for her.


Well, there are downgraders from firmware 2.0, 2.5 and 2.6 to 1.5. You´re only screwed if you have upgraded to something about 2.6.

LOL this is what I mean. "you can XYZ if you have firmware ABC"

Fuckit. Who needs that trouble?

I bought a DS lite the other day, picked up some "special hardware" and now I'm going to be set for everything. Movies, games, mods, everything. Done. Thank you.

Well, if you think the DS is good enough for movies, then whatever. Even the "regular" 320x240 on the psp looks better than what you can get on the DS.
I have both the PSP and a DS Lite, and I use both a LOT. Granted, I spend more gaming time on the DS, but the PSP simply owns on everything else. I bought a psp for the games, but I think it was worth it for the videos. 480x272 with subtitles FTW.

What is this special hardware you speak of?

Its usually (not always) the same kind of hardware that allows one to play DS /GBA roms.

[dead_parrot]

I enjoy both the PSP and the DS for different reasons. I enjoy the games on the DS more, and I definitely recognize that Nintendo basically did everything right with their handheld while Sony did everything wrong. The homebrew scene was the big draw for me with the PSP, though, and I'm actually not going to be that distressed if the PSP does die, because that means no more firmware updates - or at least, no games worth updating the firmware for - and hence greater freedom for homebrew programmers. While Sony doing everything in their power to prevent the PSP from being used for homebrew is discouraging, there are still a lot of ways to get homebrew running on your PSP - I have a factory 2.6 and regularly play SNES games and SCUMMVM using the GTA exploit, and a downgrader was recently released to downgrade 2.6 to 1.5.

But to get back to the point, I guess I agree that the PSP will eventually die, but I don't think it's dead yet - Sony will continue dragging its crippled, half-dead body as they tout PS3-PSP connectivity and try to hang on to the tattered remains of their reputation, such as it is. What I'm saying is that I don't care. For me, the PSP is a homebrew machine that has a small but dedicated following that has embraced it despite Sony's idiocy and regularly turns out both emulators and original games that I am glad to play. Any decent commercial games that are actually worth playing are just gravy.

[Salesmunn]

Calling the PSP dead now is like calling the Xbox dead a year after it's release.

The PSP has a more attractive software library than the 360. I own both and the PSP gets more play.

[fitbabits]

Calling the PSP dead now is like calling the Xbox dead a year after it's release.
It is? Please explain... :confused:

[JazGalaxy]

The DS was basically a proof of concept for the Wii. The PSP was basically a proof of concept for the PS3.

I predict we'll see the same results in the near future for the consoles bigger brothers that we saw all this year for the handhelds.

[51|RandoM]

The PSP is failing because it's a Portable Playstation 2.

If it actually was a portable PS2, it'd be a wild success. Form factor would be kind of iffy, but I still see people with discmans walking around.

[51|RandoM]

Calling the PSP dead now is like calling the Xbox dead a year after it's release.


So you're saying they're both fairly accurate?

[GrinR]

The PSP has a more attractive software library than the 360.

BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAaaaaa!!!!

[Kamalot]

It is? Please explain... :confused:
Salesmunn is a Sony salesman, a blowhard for anything Sony. That explains a lot of his posts.

[Metal Jesus]

I would add, there are still a BUNCH of PSP titles shipping this year or in the next six months that look pretty decent:

Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Mortal Kombat: Unchained
Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 2
WTF
Killzone: Liberation
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Power Stone Collection
Death Jr. 2: Root of Evil
Lumines II
Super Monkey Ball Adventure
Gitaroo-Man Lives!
HOT PXL
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Metal Slug Anthology
The Sims 2: Pets
Coded Arms: Contagion
Ghost Rider
Earthworm Jim
Steel Horizon
(those where the ones off the top of my head)

[Kamalot]

Most of those titles I can get in either full-console form and get better graphics, sound and controls, usually with better loading times. Some of them are coming to the DS also. Even Death Jr, the first ever game announced for the PSP, is having its sequel show up on the DS.

[lost]

I'm a pretty big proponent of Sony's consoles. Shit, call me a fanboy! However, in my opinion whilst the PSP is a fairly succesful handheld (lets not forget in DS comparisons that it is an exceptional console, something that has sold beyond even the wildest expectations) it has one big flaw.

Fancy 3D games.

Hear me out. I own a GB Micro, not even a DS and when do I play it? I play it in the park, on trains, whenever I'm just fucking waiting around. It's small, it has a shit hot library etc etc. Which games do I play most? Platformers and Mario Kart. I can pick them up, do a little in my 10 minutes and be done.

Sonys done a good job making a couple of console games that you can do the same with. Majoritively not and when your touting your handheld console as something to do what you do with a home console and with a similar library type then I think youve missed the point.

[score]

Its usually (not always) the same kind of hardware that allows one to play DS /GBA roms.

I think he's probably referring to flash carts that let you play movies and mp3's and open up the pretty frickin huge DS homebrew (http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/) scene.

[Ferong]

That's a pretty good looking lineup, but I'm sure all those games will be forcing the latest and greatest firmware revision on you.

I imagine the people who are getting the most out of their PSP right now are doing it with homebrew.

[Salesmunn]

It is? Please explain... :confused:

First off, I have to take the PSP's side here because this article is absurd. As a disclaimer, I own a DS, PSP, PS2 and a 360.

Again, this article...why don't they describe the sales numbers? Well, because it would discredit their entire article. The PSP has outsold the DS in the UK, a huge market. Nintendo had to release a whole new system just to get that gap to start to close! Japan has been tough for them, yes, but Nintendo is the king of handheld consoles. I feel like Sony’s made a respectable first showing, as respectable as the Xbox did against the PS2. Even better in Japan!

But they don't talk about sales numbers, they talk about UMD movies. The best thing to happen to PSP owners is that the UMD movies have tanked. Maybe Sony will put even more power into the quality line of software. They consider the UMD movies to be a benchmark for the PSP’s overall success? No one ever thought the UMD would succeed at all in the first place (except for Sony)!

As for the games, if anyone actually read a game sales chart in Japan they’d see that Tekken Dark Resurrection was #3 in sales last week of all the consoles. That’s sure sounds like a dead console to me. The software is there and more is just around the corner, people are just too damn busy complaining about there not being any software to open their eyes and see it.

I expected Sony to play second fiddle to Nintendo for awhile. They’ve been king of that market forever, did we expect Sony to just wipe the floor with them?

And a side note:

This article should read, “RIP Japanese 360.” They just can’t sell a damn system in Japan. The 360's showing in that market is pathetic. It will take Nintendo and Sony one day to outsell the 360 and if that doesn’t mark the end of that console altogether, I don’t know what does.

[Salesmunn]

Salesmunn is a Sony salesman, a blowhard for anything Sony. That explains a lot of his posts.

I'm a blowhard for everything Sony although I own a 360 with a 3000+ gamerscore? (I'm working on it. :-D)

I'm a Tekken blowhard, I'll admit that one. The PSP has had a weak showing in comparison to the DS but overall, it's doing okay. It's basically my only avenue to get my fill of the Sony exclusive titles because the PS3 looks like a disaster to me.

[eeje13]

The PSP isn't dead yet because later this year it will become the #1 must-have PS3 accessory!

[DingBat]

I hear where you guys are coming from but I've really enjoyed my PSP. I had a great time with Metal Gear Acid (playing Acid2 now). Playing Force Commander, Burnout Legends, Race Driver. Hell, I even enjoyed Untold Legends.

But, I bet the key here is I never played any of those games on the PS2. In fact, the only game I've played on the PS2 is GT3.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I'm a blowhard for everything Sony although I own a 360 with a 3000+ gamerscore? (I'm working on it. :-D)

I'm a Tekken blowhard, I'll admit that one. The PSP has had a weak showing in comparison to the DS but overall, it's doing okay. It's basically my only avenue to get my fill of the Sony exclusive titles because the PS3 looks like a disaster to me.



Just ignore him - Kamalot is blinded by his total hatred of Sony. Looking at his posts will easily show that. I'm no Sony fan, but he takes it way too far.

[IRONGUSTAV]

Salesmunn is a Sony salesman, a blowhard for anything Sony. That explains a lot of his posts.

and u are one of the lamest ntards i have seen in any inet forum,u are a disgrace to videogames

[Kamalot]

I'm no Sony fan, but he takes it way too far.I'm not blind. I can see exacly what Sony is doing. And I'll take it as far as Sony lets me. You know, they provide me with the news with their own actions.

I'm a gamer. I'm about the games. I'm not about companies forcing non-gaming crap on us. If they can't make a great, dedicated game machine, then why should they get my $$?

[motor]

You guys are all missing the true reason it failed. You can't make a portable gaming device that runs for only 2-3 hours. It is a deal breaker. Their mistake was putting in the UMD because it killed the battery life in an unfixable way. End of story.

[Kamalot]

and u are one of the lamest ntards i have seen in any inet forum,u are a disgrace to videogames
You are a tribute to gamers everywhere! I value your input. Thanks for sharing your deep wisdom with me.

[IRONGUSTAV]

I'm a gamer. I'm about the games.


bS,a true gamer will love EVERY SYSTEM,i own a ds 2 ds lites a 360 2 psp and every old system this past years ( psx,n64,DC,gC,ps2,xbox)

you are fanatic sir,one of the lamest i have seen in a long time,ur not a gamer,dont fool yourself

[Stric9]

That's funny I think the PSP is the best console i've ever purchased. I play games on it everyday. Lately i've been playing Field Commander, MLB06, Daxter, and Tales of Eternia. Beyond that i've got about 100 SNES games available at any moment, as well as Metal Slug 1&2. The SNES emulator even allows you to play multiplayer in SNES games via adhoc wireless mode. I also enjoy the fact that it plays movies and music. Further getting music onto the device is much simpler than say an Ipod instead of having to install Itunes which I hate, I simply copy the mp3's i want to the music folder and can play them at my leisure.

I think part of my enjoyment comes from the fact that I enjoy hacking/tweaking the system, of course i'm also one of those people that enjoy the pc and it's games because I enjoy tweaking my system and game settings to get the optimum performance.

It has a few problems for sure. Number one would be load times, but smart developers seem to have conquered that one, play Daxter or Tales of Eternia and you will notice the loadtimes are almost non-existant. Movies could be easier to port over to memory stick, but I don't really see a reasonable way to do this. Even if the PSP dynamically converted the movies at playtime, you would want to re-encode them anyways to save some space on your memory stick. Also the system could definately use a second analog stick, but again smart developers seem to get around this fine, see Daxter and Syphon Filter for great examples.

I'll also agree that UMD movies are a bad idea at the price they were sold at. I have seen mention of Sony releasing DVD/UMD combo packs for a slight price increase over the standard DVD. If this turns out to be true and I can get a movie on DVD and UMD for 3-5 bucks over the cost of the DVD then I can get on the UMD movie bandwagon. Until then i'll just keep converting them to memory stick.

I also don't get the camp that criticizes the PSP for having too many ports while pointing to the DS as the bastion of originality. Last time I checked most DS games are either ports of N64 games or rehashed versions of GBA or Gamecube games. Further I enjoy homebrew but I can't really take the position to fault sony for not supporting homebrew, when no other major console maufacturer has ever supported it, and if they did just allow it to run rampant it would destroy their business model. That said if you want to experience homebrew the PSP is by far the easiest system in the history of major consoles to do so on.

While i'm at it one area where the PSP absolutely trounces the DS is in sports games. When they are done well as MLB06 was, the PSP is by far the best platform for portable sports titles. If EA can get rid of the problems from last years version I could see Madden being the PSP's killer app.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I'm not blind. I can see exacly what Sony is doing. And I'll take it as far as Sony lets me. You know, they provide me with the news with their own actions.

I'm a gamer. I'm about the games. I'm not about companies forcing non-gaming crap on us. If they can't make a great, dedicated game machine, then why should they get my $$?



I agree man, and I see your point. I just think that you take it too far and are a little obsessed with it. I get the impression that you seize upon any opportunity to tear the company or its fans down.

[Tohoya]

If they weren't so gung-ho against homebrew (and I really didn't understand this. What does Sony care if people are pirating Nintendo and Sega games? It's all to their benefit, especially if it took away from the thunder of the virtual console) and didn't make me go through the tedious process of converting my movies to MP4, it might be worth it. As it stands, the PSP is collecting dust, taken out only for the decent Field Commander and Valkyrie Profile, which while good, weren't worth the 250$ price of admission.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

Last time I checked most DS games are either ports of N64 games or rehashed versions of GBA or Gamecube games.


You must have last checked out the DS aisle a year and a half ago.


That said if you want to experience homebrew the PSP is by far the easiest system in the history of major consoles to do so on.


*ring ring*

"Hello? Oh hi Dreamcast. Yeah I head. Stric9 doesn't even know you ever existed. *pause* Oh don't cry now...it's not a big deal. He's probably one of those types who thought the PS2 would be ten times more powerful than you and able to show FFVIII cutscene visuals in realtime. *pause* I still love you, don't worry. Goodbye."

[IRONGUSTAV]

That's funny I think the PSP is the best console i've ever purchased. I play games on it everyday. Lately i've been playing Field Commander, MLB06, Daxter, and Tales of Eternia. Beyond that i've got about 100 SNES games available at any moment, as well as Metal Slug 1&2. The SNES emulator even allows you to play multiplayer in SNES games via adhoc wireless mode. I also enjoy the fact that it plays movies and music. Further getting music onto the device is much simpler than say an Ipod instead of having to install Itunes which I hate, I simply copy the mp3's i want to the music folder and can play them at my leisure.

I think part of my enjoyment comes from the fact that I enjoy hacking/tweaking the system, of course i'm also one of those people that enjoy the pc and it's games because I enjoy tweaking my system and game settings to get the optimum performance.

It has a few problems for sure. Number one would be load times, but smart developers seem to have conquered that one, play Daxter or Tales of Eternia and you will notice the loadtimes are almost non-existant. Movies could be easier to port over to memory stick, but I don't really see a reasonable way to do this. Even if the PSP dynamically converted the movies at playtime, you would want to re-encode them anyways to save some space on your memory stick. Also the system could definately use a second analog stick, but again smart developers seem to get around this fine, see Daxter and Syphon Filter for great examples.

I'll also agree that UMD movies are a bad idea at the price they were sold at. I have seen mention of Sony releasing DVD/UMD combo packs for a slight price increase over the standard DVD. If this turns out to be true and I can get a movie on DVD and UMD for 3-5 bucks over the cost of the DVD then I can get on the UMD movie bandwagon. Until then i'll just keep converting them to memory stick.

I also don't get the camp that criticizes the PSP for having too many ports while pointing to the DS as the bastion of originality. Last time I checked most DS games are either ports of N64 games or rehashed versions of GBA or Gamecube games. Further I enjoy homebrew but I can't really take the position to fault sony for not supporting homebrew, when no other major console maufacturer has ever supported it, and if they did just allow it to run rampant it would destroy their business model. That said if you want to experience homebrew the PSP is by far the easiest system in the history of major consoles to do so on.

While i'm at it one area where the PSP absolutely trounces the DS is in sports games. When they are done well as MLB06 was, the PSP is by far the best platform for portable sports titles. If EA can get rid of the problems from last years version I could see Madden being the PSP's killer app.


dont bother dude,the everythingsony hate here its ridiculous

[Kamalot]

bS,a true gamer will love EVERY SYSTEM,i own a ds 2 ds lites a 360 2 psp and every old system this past years ( psx,n64,DC,gC,ps2,xbox)

you are fanatic sir,one of the lamest i have seen in a long time,ur not a gamer,dont fool yourself
I said I am a gamer, not a tool.

Only a moron and a complete corporate tool would love every system, regardless of any detractions.

[IRONGUSTAV]

*ring ring*

"Hello? Oh hi Dreamcast. Yeah I head. Stric9 doesn't even know you ever existed. *pause* Oh don't cry now...it's not a big deal. He's probably one of those types who thought the PS2 would be ten times more powerful than you and able to show FFVIII cutscene visuals in realtime. *pause* I still love you, don't worry. Goodbye."


u must be one of these good fellas who critized psp for having a wipeout or ridge racer and love the DS for having a mario kart

sweet hypocrisy

[fitbabits]

dont bother dude,the everythingsony hate here its ridiculous
The same cannot be said, however, for the grammar. Oh wait...

[IRONGUSTAV]

I said I am a gamer, not a tool.

Only a moron and a complete corporate tool would love every system, regardless of any detractions.


ur not a tool? just make a search on ur nick name,have a look at ur blog, or doing a google kamalot plus nintendo will show anyone what type of nintendo tool u are

dont make me laugh brother

[Stric9]

If they weren't so gung-ho against homebrew (and I really didn't understand this. What does Sony care if people are pirating Nintendo and Sega games?

Because if they acted like they didn't care most likely Sega and Nintendo would sue, and their main problem is that if homebrew is left unchecked people will pirate PSP games. But again why do people get so up in arms when sony doesn't support hacking their system, while microsoft did the exact same thing with the xbox, and nintendo has never embraced this either. In fact when looked at from a pure consumer standpoint who has never hacked their psp the firmware updates have added a ton of functionality at no cost whatsoever.

[IRONGUSTAV]

The same cannot be said, however, for the grammar. Oh wait...


yes,wait cause english is not my native language,can u write on a perfect german on a german forum?

[GrinR]

I think part of my enjoyment comes from the fact that I enjoy hacking/tweaking the system, of course i'm also one of those people that enjoy the pc and it's games because I enjoy tweaking my system and game settings to get the optimum performance.

No, all of your enjoyment comes from that fact. If you were not willing to spend the time and energy online downloading and updating and patching and so on, you would not get ANY of that enjoyment.

There are always people who mod out their systems and get tons more milage than the rest; the point is that the mod community is tiny in comparison with every other platform ever - because Sony is actively spending huge resources blocking it.

I was going on a trip a while back and wanted to bring the PSP for the gf, so I tried to get some movies and games for her. I quickly realized that I would need to figure out the fastloader (or whatever) and the tree structure and get MP4 or ISO or whatever and hope they work with the version of blah blah.

You know what I discovered? I make more money in the time I spent trying to figure it out than it cost to just buy the games and UMD movies.

Victory: Sony.

[GrinR]

yes,wait cause english is not my native language,can u write on a perfect german on a german forum?

(it helps to let people know there is a reason for your broken English. :) )

[fitbabits]

yes,wait cause english is not my native language,can u write on a perfect german on a german forum?
No, I can't. But then again, I don't seek out German forums where the alleged bias is so strong that it would be enough for me to steer clear - not post!

[fitbabits]

(it helps to let people know there is a reason for your broken English. :) )
It doesn't.

[Stric9]

"Hello? Oh hi Dreamcast. Yeah I head. Stric9 doesn't even know you ever existed. *pause* Oh don't cry now...it's not a big deal. He's probably one of those types who thought the PS2 would be ten times more powerful than you and able to show FFVIII cutscene visuals in realtime. *pause* I still love you, don't worry. Goodbye."

I never owned a dreamcast but I don't see how it could be much easier than the launch PSP which required you to:

1) Copy two program folders to the games directory
2) Run program

Even now all you have to do is add in one more step of "run downgrader".

[Magnanimous Gnome]

u must be one of these good fellas who critized psp for having a wipeout or ridge racer and love the DS for having a mario kart

sweet hypocrisy



Right, way to totally ignore the point of my post in favor of just trolling and calling it a day.

I'd say we pull out the Ban Hammer and cleanse Evil Avatar of this "tool" before he totally destroys this thread.

[IRONGUSTAV]

No, I can't. But then again, I don't seek out German forums where the alleged bias is so strong that it would be enough for me to steer clear - not post!

yeah,its nice to see hospitality at his finest

[fitbabits]

Right, way to totally ignore the point of my post in favor of just trolling and calling it a day.

I'd say we pull out the Ban Hammer and cleanse Evil Avatar of this "tool" before he totally destroys this thread.
This 'tool' as you affectionately call him, has been banned in the past but under a different name. I just back-traced the IP address and compared it with the previous user's IP address and whadyaknow - they're the same! :)

Then again, if I go and ban a German, does that make me a fascist or something?

[Stric9]

No, all of your enjoyment comes from that fact. If you were not willing to spend the time and energy online downloading and updating and patching and so on, you would not get ANY of that enjoyment.

No because as I stated in my post I enjoy the games. Daxter, Hot Shots, Tales of Eternia, MLB06, Metal Gear Acid, Field Commander have all been very fun games in my opinion. In fact I have Syphon Filter sitting un-touched because I haven't been able to make the time to play it.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I never owned a dreamcast but I don't see how it could be much easier than the launch PSP which required you to:

1) Copy two program folders to the games directory
2) Run program

Even now all you have to do is add in one more step of "run downgrader".


I don't know much about the ease of it I guess, and I missed that in your last post. For some reason I thought you meant that it had the largest homebrew community of any major console. Something like that anyway. Blech, nevermind. ;)

[IRONGUSTAV]

Right, way to totally ignore the point of my post in favor of just trolling and calling it a day.

I'd say we pull out the Ban Hammer and cleanse Evil Avatar of this "tool" before he totally destroys this thread.


anybody who doesnt think like you or use ur arguments against you = troll who needs a ban

[Magnanimous Gnome]

This 'tool' as you affectionately call him, has been banned in the past but under a different name. I just back-traced the IP address and compared it with the previous user's IP address and whadyaknow - they're the same! :)

Then again, if I go and ban a German, does that make me a fascist or something?


Nah, just a xenophobe. I'll forgive you this one time though. You did send me a tofu recipe book afterall.

So what was his name last time? OMG, he's Player 1 isn't he!!! :eek: :eek:

[Magnanimous Gnome]

anybody who doesnt think like you or use ur arguments against you = troll who needs a ban


Yep, that's what I said.


Wow, this is way more fun than job hunting. :D

[dead_parrot]

yeah,its nice to see hospitality at his finest

???

Maybe if you used German we would understand you better....

[fitbabits]

yeah,its nice to see hospitality at his finest
Look, we're a genuinely hospitable bunch here - we really are. One thing we won't tolerate, though, is trolling for the sake of it.

And my point still stands - if you find the bias here to be so bad, why do you even stick around, unless it's just to troll.

I love that we have a very active and diverse community here at EvAv, but I just don't get why some people frequent forums they hate just to say they hate them. There must be something more fruitful they can do with their time.

[cppcrusader]

I admit I expected the PSP to fail pretty badly, but I have honestly been surprised by how miserably it has failed.

I mean, they ported Liberty City Stories to the PS2, that still blows my mind. That was supposedly going to be the killer app, portable GTA3.

[IRONGUSTAV]

Look, we're a genuinely hospitable bunch here - we really are. One thing we won't tolerate, though, is trolling for the sake of it.

And my point still stands - if you find the bias here to be so bad, why do you even stick around, unless it's just to troll.

I love that we have a very active and diverse community here at EvAv, but I just don't get why some people frequent forums they hate just to say they hate them. There must be something more fruitful they can do with their time.

now i u can find where i say i hated EAV ? i expose the antysonyshit its getting out of hand sometimes,( a thing a lot of user have exposed on the past) only that,and when i see kamalot acussing someone to be a toll i have jumped,thats all

u can have fun with someone who is at least triying to use ur languague on a forum,this in internet t no surprises here

[fitbabits]

now i u can find where i say i hated EAV ? i expose the antysonyshit its getting out of hand sometimes,( a thing a lot of user have exposed on the past) only that,and when i see kamalot acussing someone to be a toll i have jumped,thats all

u can have fun with someone who is at least triying to use ur languague on a forum,this in internet t no surprises here
Arg! The last paragraph in my post was not about you specifically. That's why I seperated it out from the previous paragraphs. Rather, it was about people who hate forums and stick around to say so.

As for the anti-Sony shit - tell it to fucking SONY! I'll even make it easy for you:

CORPORATE OFFICES

Sony Computer Entertainment America
PO Box 5888
San Mateo, CA 94402-0888
800-345-7669 (800-345-SONY)
M-SAT 6:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m. PST
Sunday 7:00 a.m. – 6:30 p.m

[Metal Jesus]

You can't make a portable gaming device that runs for only 2-3 hours. It is a deal breaker.

What?! The battery lasts longer than that when playing games. What are you talking about?

[IRONGUSTAV]

Arg! The last paragraph in my post was not about you specifically. That's why I seperated it out from the previous paragraphs. Rather, it was about people who hate forums and stick around to say so.

As for the anti-Sony shit - tell it to fucking SONY! I'll even make it easy for you:

CORPORATE OFFICES

Sony Computer Entertainment America
PO Box 5888
San Mateo, CA 94402-0888
800-345-7669 (800-345-SONY)
M-SAT 6:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m. PST
Sunday 7:00 a.m. – 6:30 p.m

its funny who much u talk about trolling and kamalot is free to troll here like there is no tomorrow :)

[Shinigami]

As soon as I have my copy of Carnage Heart Portable, it will all be worth it and the PSP can die a happy death. And PLEASE give me an english release as my japanese still sucks bad.

[fitbabits]

its funny who much u talk about trolling and kamalot is free to troll here like there is no tomorrow :)
For some, there is no tomorrow.

And the difference between someone like yourself and someone like Kamalot is that Kamalot has been around EvAv for a while and contributes to the site while at the same time being aware and respectful of the boundaries here. Plus, Kamalot often puts forth some interesting and unbiased points of view. I may not agree with Kamalot a lot of the time, but he/she's at least able and willing to engage in conversation and put forth his/her ideas in a mostly thoughtful manner.

You owe me $20, Kamalot. :)

[IRONGUSTAV]

For some, there is no tomorrow.

And the difference between someone like yourself and someone like Kamalot is that Kamalot has been around EvAv for a while and contributes to the site while at the same time being aware and respectful of the boundaries here. Plus, Kamalot often puts forth some interesting and unbiased points of view. I may not agree with Kamalot a lot of the time, but he/she's at least able and willing to engage in conversation and put forth his/her ideas in a mostly thoughtful manner.

You owe me $20, Kamalot. :)

yeah specially a unbiased point of view

nevermind

[fitbabits]

yeah specially a unbiased point of view

nevermind
Look, you can be completely biased and argue your points, that is not the definition of a troll. The problem arises when you refuse to listen to an alternate point of view. Kamalot does listen and, for the most part, responds in kind when someone takes him/her to task for his/her opinions.

Can you see the difference here?

[GrinR]

It doesn't.

It sure does!

[GrinR]

I never owned a dreamcast but I don't see how it could be much easier than the launch PSP which required you to:

1) Copy two program folders to the games directory
2) Run program

Even now all you have to do is add in one more step of "run downgrader".

PM the links, I'd like to see that. I've spend weeks trying to sort out all the loaders and crap to make my PSP sing. It's never happened. There are always gotchas.

But paint me optimistic! Lay it on me brutha!

[Achilles]

A weird article to have on the day that the new Valkyrie Profile came out.I was thinking the same thing.

3rd party software on the PSP is doing pretty good in the US and Europe. Maybe they've only got 3 million-sellers, but at least it's got 3. We're not talking about the N-Gage here. And it does have some pretty good games.

[Stric9]

PM the links, I'd like to see that. I've spend weeks trying to sort out all the loaders and crap to make my PSP sing. It's never happened. There are always gotchas.

Were talking about two entirely different things. I'm talking about getting any general homebrew application to run while you seem to want to know how to get a specific homebrew app/s to work. The ease of the PSP to run homebrew programs doesn't have anything to do with the ease of use of any given program made to run on the PSP.

[GrinR]

Were talking about two entirely different things. I'm talking about getting any general homebrew application to run while you seem to want to know how to get a specific homebrew app/s to work. The ease of the PSP to run homebrew programs doesn't have anything to do with the ease of use of any given program made to run on the PSP.

Is it evidence enough of my point that your attempt at clarification is more confusing than the initial confusion?

[Salesmunn]

Just ignore him - Kamalot is blinded by his total hatred of Sony. Looking at his posts will easily show that. I'm no Sony fan, but he takes it way too far.

Ah, I thought he was an admin here. I was a little concerned.

[Salesmunn]

In fact I have Syphon Filter sitting un-touched because I haven't been able to make the time to play it.

Oh dude. That's a damn shame! It's an awesome title especially with the gas grenades online! >:-P

[Metal Jesus]

In fact I have Syphon Filter sitting un-touched because I haven't been able to make the time to play it.

I absolutely loved Syphon Filter on the PSP! Everything about that game was top-knotch including graphics, controls, AI, sound, etc...

[KSmitty]

Well count me mostly with GrinR on this one. I really wanted a PSP because of all the things it could do, then once I learned of all the hoops you'd have to jump through to make things certain things work, I decided to wait....I'm still waiting. Once the system price drops significantly and I can pick up a few UMDs off ebay on the cheap I will be buying a PSP, until then I will just enjoy my DS lite with an optional $80 accessory that lets you do every thing the PSP does. ;)

And as far as homebrew killing your console and needing to be blocked, WTF? Nintendo has not blocked the function of an adapter that let you play roms on the GBA, GBA SP, GBA Micro, NDS or NDS Lite. There are even two liscenced US hard drives/adapters that let you run homebrew apps.

I am not dogging Sony here, I just hate the way they cripple their products. UMDs were a mistake, using a disc in a portable system was a mistake. They could have supported divx/xvid format or at the very least sold a disc that let you run .avi's. But the PSP screen is hands down the best looking portable game system. The price is just too high to be 'everyman' and the functionality is too limited to be considered 'high end'.

-K

[Achilles]

UMDs were a mistake, using a disc in a portable system was a mistake. They could have supported divx/xvid format or at the very least sold a disc that let you run .avi's. But the PSP screen is hands down the best looking portable game system. The price is just too high to be 'everyman' and the functionality is too limited to be considered 'high end'.
-KI don't think using a disc was a mistake. A cart wouldn't have been big enough to get the kind of graphics they were looking for (or the kind that the hardware can support). They should have given the disc a higher read speed so that you can stream stuff off of it without having to use specific gates. You can do a bunch of stuff to cover it up, but the read speed is terribly slow, which is why load times are so long on the PSP.

[divinechaos]

I seriously dont think the PSP is dead... dying, maybe, but not dead. It has only been a year or so. I doubt Sony is just gonna let the thing die like that... i mean, it HAS to stay alive until the PS3 comes along. Oh, i can see it now, the PS3+ bundle. PS3 and PSP included! Im a marketing genius!

[Hellstorm]

<insert Evil's world famous quote about the DS here>

[Zechs01]

http://media.gwn.com/articles_mp/52731037044bc5c17a2aca.jpg

This graph clearly indicates that the PSP and PS3 are only purchased by Tools.
Since when has the PS3 been on sale?

[Pumped'Up]

Since when has the PS3 been on sale?
Look at the top corner, a picture from 2004 - nice going to the troll whoever posted this.

Btw Zech, the graph bar of the "next system" does not imply SALE.

[Kamalot]

Btw Zech, the graph bar of the "next system" does not imply SALE.The photo is from the associated article. Didn't you READ the article? :rolleyes:

[Zechs01]

Look at the top corner, a picture from 2004 - nice going to the troll whoever posted this.

Btw Zech, the graph bar of the "next system" does not imply SALE.
"Purchased" is in the past tense.

[EternalGamer]

We have been through all these discussions before, but I think Jaz might be right that we are setting the precursors of the Wii and PS3 scenario as the same two design philosophies are going to be pitted against each other once more.

Ultimately, I can respect either philosophy (though I favor Nintendo's). If the PSP had continued what it started with Wipeout and Twisted Metal (read: legitimate quality games that are actually new, not just cut down versions of their console brethern), I probably would have eventually jumped onboard, but Sony has instead created the perfect vechile for portable shovelware to milk the PS2's leftovers, and that's not something I can get behind.

Hopefully, Sony will do a better job of proving the validity of the "multimedia" and "big gaming bling" experience with the PS3.

Magnamious just gave me a great idea. You know what the DC needs? A DS emulator just so I can play New Super Mario Bros Yoshi's Island 2 on my projector screen.

[rival81]

That site just posted a hilarious article about how to seduce girls using the Wiimote's Nunchuk, written by a girl gamer! Check it out:

http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/748/

[fitbabits]

That site just posted a hilarious article about how to seduce girls using the Wiimote's Nunchuk, written by a girl gamer! Check it out:

http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/748/
No, I won't! And you can't make me.

[OUX]

Sounds messy....and creepy......

[Evil Avnovice]

If it isn't dead or dying, comatose seems to be the case. After the glitz wore off, most of the games are disappointing, and many of them announced from 2004/05 are still MIA.

Lumines and Ridge Racers are the only games that still get a workout on my system, homebrew on my second PSP is a nice plus for me, and is otherwise the only reason I still use them. My DS on the other hand, after gathering dust for a year, has been getting oodles of playtime now that the library has improved.

My PSPs are now mainly used for MP3's, wallpapers, game trailers & anime, homebrew, and little else. (I'd put PSP-formatted magazines in here, but those are outdated.)

[shnastybiznastic]

Evil Avnovice: Kid tested, 100% pessimistic.
okay, this absoloutley tears me up every time I read it. If it's supposed to be like the Kix slogan, then it should read "Kid Tested, <funny noun here> approved"

[Sl1pstream]

yes,wait cause english is not my native language,can u write on a perfect german on a german forum?

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/592/01/

They're used in every language in every country.

[IRONGUSTAV]

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/592/01/

They're used in every language in every country.

well i will remember next time we invade belgium again :D

[Evil Avnovice]

okay, this absoloutley tears me up every time I read it. If it's supposed to be like the Kix slogan, then it should read "Kid Tested, <funny noun here> approved"


Unfortunately, I lack the ability to come up with funny punchlines or phrases, and everyone else has quotes from other forum members for their sigs. Sadly, this is the best that I could come up with. :(

[Paranoia]

For an expensive portable system that relies on emulated games, its just pathetic.

[SexualChoc]

The PSP still has much to offer. I mean when Sony pull their fingers out and make some decent sized memory sticks, it should be good. Not to mention the emulation of PS1 games on the PSP. Also, some damn fine looking games are still to come: Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Tekken: Dark Ressurection to name but a few. The DS is more popular yes, but the PSP isn't dead by no means.

[AversionFX]

I see the PSP as just higher-end hardware. And that's cool I guess if you just want to brag about being the most tech-savvy and have the extra money to just throw into an empty fire. I haven't seen anything in the slightest that would make me want to even consider picking up a PSP. And for as long as its been out? I'd say that's bad.

[Sl1pstream]

well i will remember next time we invade belgium again :D

I would be surprised if you could even invade your own backyard without getting flashbacks of the two previous defeats. Maybe you could start your own livejournal where you can talk about how that made you feel inside and how the world hates you because of where you're from.

[pooty-tang]

I would be surprised if you could even invade your own backyard without getting flashbacks of the two previous defeats.

BOOOM!! HEAD SHOT!! roflcopterlolbbq.
wow. . . . wow. that was awsome. and by awsome i mean i actually kinda feel bad for the guy now.

anyway, i got a ds a while back when the good games were coming out and at the same time i was contemplating dropping more bones on a psp, mainly just cause it looks so damn sexy. but i think calling it dead is a little premature. sure, its not as succesful as the ds, but i wouldn't say that its a dead system.