Amazon Japan poll shows PS3 more desireable than Wii by 33% margin

[Chalex]

Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com) reports (via punchjump.com (http://www.punchjump.com) ) that a recent survey (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.jp%2Fexec%2 Fobidos%2Ftg%2Fbrowse%2F-%2F1192238%2Fref%253Damb%255Fleft-1%255F45150706%255F1%2F249-4444709-8085107&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8) by amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp) has found consumers are more intrested in the PS3 than the Wii by 33%.


http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/G/09/entertainment/promos/games/img/wii-ps3-chart.gif


This seems contrary to the recent Famitsu polls, it should be interesting to see how the console wars play out in japan.

[The-Builder]

Can't really confirm or deny it from looking at the amazon site.

[Chalex]

If somone could link the poll pic I'll put it in the first post, the jp page refused to load on my work PC :o

[Abednigo]

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/G/09/entertainment/promos/games/img/wii-ps3-chart.gif

Doesn't look like that much of a margin to me.

[Karragasch]

So either this the average japanese amazon customer and the average famitsu reader have different mindsets and states of information, or this just underlines the fact that the ps3 is an object of luxury and thus more desireable than something you can aquire for a reasonable price.

[Goronmon]

Doesn't look like that much of a margin to me.If I am reading that right, both bars on the right are PS3, while that one on the left is the Wii. I'd say 33% looks right.

[Chalex]

If I am reading that right, both bars on the right are PS3, while that one on the left is the Wii.Exactly, 2 skus but one product.

[Khash]

While I consider myself a Sony fanboy, I'm always wary of these 'polls'. Both this and that Famitsu 'poll' that showed the Wii ahead of the PS3 are in no way scientific nor do they show an accurate representation of the Japanese consumer market. We don't even know how they got these numbers.

[jacktion]

Yeah, but are they 40000 yen more interested?

If you asked me if I am more interested in a ferrari or a hyundai, I'd be more interested in the ferrari but that doesn't mean I'm buying one.

[Plays4Pants]

One costs 200 and one costs 600...which one is more "desireable" to you...hmm, probably the one that costs more! tards.

stupid statistics. I desire a viper and a mansion...i however don't own viper or a mansion. Stupid stupid statistics.

[MajSheppard]

Wouldn't taking an Amazon poll and using it to discredit a Famitsu poll be like using a Walmart poll to discredit a poll by a reputable American hardcore gaming magazine?

[Plays4Pants]

While I consider myself a Sony fanboy, I'm always wary of these 'polls'. Both this and that Famitsu 'poll' that showed the Wii ahead of the PS3

Nope, you're wrong...You're a sony fanboy AND you can't read a graph let alone understand what it implies.

[Yeti2005]

The Wii is cheaper, has a unique interface but graphically it's not up to par with the PS3. Does this sound familiar? The Wii vs Ps3 will play out in Japan just like the DS vs PSP.

[XenonCJ]

What about the XBox 360?!?! Oh wait it's not really considered a console over there....

[Khash]

What about the XBox 360?!?! Oh wait it's not really considered a console over there....
The graph only shows reservation interest, I think.

[mkelehan]

Uh, maybe I'm looking at the image wrong, but it looks like the bar for the 60GB PS3 is bigger than that of the Wii.

[fitbabits]

Who gives a rip any more about polls? The PS3 will likely lead in Japan, with the Wii a close second. As for the 360 - chances are Microsoft will cut their losses there following the release of both the PS3 and Wii.

On the other hand, in North America, I expect the 360 and PS3 to be neck-and-neck in a year's time. The Wii will be a somewhat distant third.

As for Europe (myope?), expect the PS3 to lead and the 360 and Wii to follow closely behind.

Now can we finally put this whole nonsense to bed?

[Goronmon]

Nope, you're wrong...You're a sony fanboy AND you can't read a graph let alone understand what it implies.I think you misread his post. He was talking about "this poll" (thats one poll) and the "Famitsu poll that showed the Wii ahead" (thats two polls).

[CrashCart]

Nope, you're wrong...You're a sony fanboy AND you can't read a graph let alone understand what it implies.
I could be misunderstanding the original post, but I think he was saying:
While I consider myself a Sony fanboy, I'm always wary of these 'polls'. Both this [poll that shows the PS3 in the lead] and that Famitsu 'poll' that showed the Wii ahead of the PS3 are in no way scientific nor do they show an accurate representation of the Japanese consumer market. We don't even know how they got these numbers.
I'm pretty sure he's not saying that they both show the Wii in the lead. Either way, I have to agree with most of you in that it's hard to claim that these polls are representative of the Japanese population as a whole. I also don't know that either poll was asking which console they would buy, just which one they are more interested in.

There's certainly a correlation between interest in and purchase of a console, but some consumers will probably be put off of a PS3 purchase due its price.


Edit: As Goronmon pointed out a little more quickly than I could.

[Chalex]

Who gives a rip any more about polls? The PS3 will likely lead in Japan, with the Wii a close second. As for the 360 - chances are Microsoft will cut their losses there following the release of both the PS3 and Wii.

On the other hand, in North America, I expect the 360 and PS3 to be neck-and-neck in a year's time. The Wii will be a somewhat distant third.

As for Europe (myope?), expect the PS3 to lead and the 360 and Wii to follow closely behind.

Now can we finally put this whole nonsense to bed?I would be rather shocked if the Wii does as poorly as you predict in any territory.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

The anecdotes that some of you make about the PS3's price versus the Wii's are absurd. Comparing the cost of a Ferrari to a Hyundai and then using that comparison in relation to the PS3 and the Wii is silly. A Hyundai and a Lexus perhaps would be a better example, but still off the mark. Let's take off the fanboy glasses for a minute and use our brains.

[TheHulk]

I agree with Jacktion. I desire to have PS3, but at that price there a better chance of monkeys flying out of my ass than me buying one, especially given the lack of games that I'd want. I just don't see a $600 console being accepted by the masses.

[fitbabits]

I would be rather shocked if the Wii does as poorly as you predict in any territory.
My reasoning is that some people will see the Wii as a gimmicky console and look elsewhere (360, PS3) for their hardcore gaming fix. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm no longer as sure as I once was that the Wii will alter the gaming landscape the way I thought it would.

[fitbabits]

I agree with Jacktion. I desire to have PS3, but at that price there a better chance of monkeys flying out of my ass than me buying one, especially given the lack of games that I'd want. I just don't see a $600 console being accepted by the masses.
For gamers and games only, the $500 SKU will more than suffice. Or so I'm told.

[Roc Ingersol]

This article does raise a pretty darn good question.
What's more useless: an online poll, or an industry analyst?

[Chalex]

My reasoning is that some people will see the Wii as a gimmicky console and look elsewhere (360, PS3) for their hardcore gaming fix. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm no longer as sure as I once was that the Wii will alter the gaming landscape the way I thought it would.I fully expect a DS type sellout for the first few months, I kinda doubt it will be maintainable, but for a time the Wii will probably be outselling the PS3 and 360 combined.

[Chalex]

This article does raise a pretty darn good question.
What's more useless: an online poll, or an industry analyst?Both are worthless :confused:

[Zawath]

I think Wii will be the most sold console. The price is 2 times lower than PS3's so it's pretty obvious that people will buy them like crazy. From revenue standpoint PSE3 is likely to be the biggest because the price is so high and Nintendo would have to sell twice as many consoles to get the same amount of money.

[cp#]

Well considering that Wii will be available this year (and in decent quantities) and the PS3 basically won't be available this year... I have a good idea of how the "war" will turn out.

[Goronmon]

Well considering that Wii will be available this year (and in decent quantities) and the PS3 basically won't be available this year... I have a good idea of how the "war" will turn out.Just out of curiosity, do you have any numbers for the Wii's availability at the end of this year? Everything I remember reading pointed to situation similar to the 360/PS3 type shortages.

[Achilles]

I think Wii will be the most sold console. The price is 2 times lower than PS3's so it's pretty obvious that people will buy them like crazy.The Game Cube was cheaper as well. I don't think people will go for the cheapest system, they'll go for the one with the most games they want to play as long as they can afford it.

[GrinR]

Japan is a lockdown regardless. I'm not sure why people care what goes on there.

[MentallyInept]

I think Wii will be the most sold console. The price is 2 times lower than PS3's so it's pretty obvious that people will buy them like crazy. From revenue standpoint PSE3 is likely to be the biggest because the price is so high and Nintendo would have to sell twice as many consoles to get the same amount of money.

Nintendo has gone on record to say that they may be taking a 'slight' loss on the console, while Sony is likely to lose something in the area of $200-$400 dollars per console.

Nintendo info:

http://www.forbes.com/digitalentertainment/2006/05/11/nintendo-microsoft-sony_cx_kt_0511wii.html

Sony info:

*CAUTION* *PDF*
http://rsch1.ml.com/9093/24013/ds/276873_0.PDF
*CAUTION* *PDF*

[Demo_Boy]

bull crap.
look at the numbers for the 360.
everyone knows that the Japan 360 numbers are zero.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

bull crap.
look at the numbers for the 360.
everyone knows that the Japan 360 numbers are zero.


The 360 isn't on that chart, smartguy.

[kid cabelgo]

i like how playstation is pronounced "puraysuteeshon" the way they spell it in japan.

[Watership]

I would be rather shocked if the Wii does as poorly as you predict in any territory.

I wouldn't. Every time Nintendo gets good hardware and interesting ideas, they screw it up with poor software support.

[Watership]

The 360 isn't on that chart, smartguy.

The green confused him!

[Siraris]

'[huainaruhuantaji] XIII (tentative name)'
'[huainaruhuantajivuerusasu] XIII (tentative name)'

Best translations EVAR

[cp#]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any numbers for the Wii's availability at the end of this year? Everything I remember reading pointed to situation similar to the 360/PS3 type shortages.

CNN
Wii production started?
The Wii may be in its final form and being manufactured as we speak. This comes from an analyst who spoke with Morris for CNN Money. The analyst, P.J. McNealy, also believes the Wii will come out in October, well ahead of Sony's PS3. The following is the full article, taken from IGN Wii:

Wii Enters Manufacturing?
According to one analyst, Nintendo already has factories running.
by David Adams
July 5, 2006 - In a recent edition of his Game Over column on CNN Money, Chris Morris refers to an analyst note suggesting Nintendo is already manufacturing final retail Wii units -- well ahead of the system's expected launch this fall.

If true, Nintendo could sidestep the troublesome shortages which darkened Microsoft's Xbox 360 launch and which will almost certainly affect Sony's PlayStation 3. Obviously this also suggests Nintendo locked down the Wii hardware earlier than expected -- hopefully giving developers plenty of time with the final system. By contrast, Microsoft sent final X360 development kits to studios surprisingly close to the system's launch.

Nintendo did not immediately return requests for comment.

According to Morris, the same analyst -- P.J. McNealy with American Technology Research -- agrees with others in the industry that October is a likely launch time for the Wii, meaning Nintendo's unconventional and amiably-priced system will be scampering eagerly at stores just as Sony births its latest behemoth.

As for official word, the most Nintendo has said so far is that the Wii will launch this year for less than $250.


Source: ClubIGN http://blogs.ign.com/-VashTS/2006/07/05/24022/


From what I last heard about the PS3 the Blu-Ray drives aren't really working and yields of Cell processors are 10% or less?

[Yeti2005]

The Game Cube was cheaper as well. I don't think people will go for the cheapest system, they'll go for the one with the most games they want to play as long as they can afford it.

I wonder then what will potentially have more games? Will it be the PS3 or for the same price the Wii AND the Xbox 360 combined?