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07-16-2006, 07:48 AM
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Week Twenty-nine:
Evil Avatar's Weekly Comic Book Reviews – Year 2 - Week 29

Batgirl: Silent Running
Reviewed by: KefkaTaran (Philip Kollar), Associate Editor / Podcast Host
Publisher: DC Comics
Writers: Scott Peterson and Kelley Puckett
Penciller: Damion Scott
Inker: Robert Campanella
Colorist: Jason Wright
Letterer: John Costanza
Editors: Darren Vincenzo and Dennis O’Neil
Price: Out of print (available on Amazon Marketplace for as low as $15)

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While Batgirl definitely has a very vocal fan base, for a lot of people the character is a hard sell. The character, from the outside at least, seems redundant and uninspired, and indeed she was originally introduced as nothing more than an even younger female Batman, a cousin of the already-introduced Batwoman. Any writer introducing trying to write Batgirl has a hefty load of work in front of them. Of all her various iterations (four as of now), the most recent Batgirl, Cassandra Cain, is probably the most-loved, and Batgirl: Silent Running does a fair job showing why. This trade paperback collects issues 1-6 of the just-ended volume of Batgirl’s first ongoing series.

Even though it begins at issue #1, the book picks up with Cain already under the mask as Batgirl, having taken the position during the “No Man’s Land” event that (literally) shook up the Batman books during the late ‘90s. Nevertheless, writers Peterson and Puckett do a good job of filling in enough of Cain’s back-story to satisfy new readers. Daughter of master assassin David Cain, she is one of the best fighters in the DC universe but also, at first, almost completely mute. This isn’t a medical condition, but rather an after-effect of learning the language of body movements instead of anything vocal. That little bit of comic book genius also explains why she’s such a kick-ass fighter. The unique idea of a mute superhero also lends itself to a couple of really interesting artistic pages where they attempt to show how Cassie “interprets” movement as language.

Unfortunately, this intriguing idea is removed about halfway through the book by way of a ridiculous deus ex machina, the kind that could only occur in a comic book. It’s truly unfortunate that they didn’t try to keep Cain mute for longer and play around with how a character like that could operate in a medium built largely on dialogue. The writers still do a completely serviceable job, and when the character finally gains language (and thus an inner monologue), she’s surprisingly likeable. Confident and cool while remaining mysterious and deadly, she successfully mixes together elements of Batman -- as Oracle says when Batman asks, “Who does she seem most like?”: “actually… YOU” -- and the Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl.

Of course the “female Batman” label is exactly the problem Batgirl needs to buck in order to be interesting, as I pointed out at the beginning. Once the lack of language is no longer an issue, the difference between the two becomes slightly harder to notice. With hints that Batgirl could have killed someone as a child, Batman struggles with whether or not to trust her. Despite his insane moral standards, though, there’s never any question whether or not she’s a good guy to the reader getting her inner monologue. In fact, Batman’s questions drives him quite out of character, as he acts awkward, confused, and amazingly sloppy, deciding to simply leave Gotham completely on a silly goose chase. The ease with which he accepts what he finds on that trip does not feel like Batman at all. The story is still interesting and a lot of fun, but these writers obviously weren’t too interested in making a believable Bruce Wayne. The upside is that Batgirl comes out as a far more alluring character. Her assurance contrasts well with Batman’s fumbling hi-jinks in this arc to bring her out on top.

Everything else in this book is pretty similar to the writing: efficient and durable but not fantastic. Those few really great by artist Damion Scott stand out, but there simply was not enough. Scott’s recent issue of Solo shows how impressive he can be, but his art here sticks much closer to a safe comic book style. The colors stand out if only because they are a bit brighter than you usually find in a Batman/Gotham book. Given the more light-hearted tone of the story, though, it isn’t surprising and works well. Jason Wright deserves some props for that, although if his style is normally this bright it’s probably much more suited to his recent Superman Prequel work.

Bottom Line:
Batgirl: Silent Running contains some weak characterization of a popular character and some missed opportunities with Batgirl’s muteness, but overall this is a much more interesting and fun story than it could have been. If you want a nice bit of quick, comic book fun, this is great. But if you’re looking for something that’s deep, drawn or written above average, or necessary to Batman lore, best to keep moving and check somewhere else.

Rating: Decent, but leaf through it before buying it. (3 1/2 out of 5 EvilEyes)
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Ghost Rider #1(An ongoing series)
Reviewed by: Everlost_MI (Brian K. Nichols), Editor in Chief
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Daniel Way
Breakdowns: Javier Saltares
Finishes: Mark Texeira
Colors: Dan Brown
Letters: VC’s Joe Caramagna
Editor: Axel Alonso
Price: $2.99 US/$4.25 CAN

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The Spirit of Vengeance with the Johnny Blaze as the host once again takes a fiery ride out of Hell back to Earth. Except this time around it appears that Ghost Rider has become an agent for Satan after being duped into making yet another deal with the Prince of Darkness.

Daniel Way has taken over the reins where Garth Ennis’ mini series, Ghost Rider: Road To Damnation, left off. The storyline of this initial issue isn’t groundbreaking as it presents a predictable situation for the Spirit of Vengeance by the end of the issue. The characterizations and dialogue are nothing special but the artwork by Javier Saltares and Mark Texeria is enjoyable as these two artists were part of the 1990’s Ghost Rider series.

Bottom Line:
The enjoyable artwork couldn’t save the flaccid writing in this initial issue. The story is a bland variation of Ennis’ previous mini series as well as some of the previous Ghost Rider stories. So unless you’re a huge Ghost Rider fan I would stay away from this issue and possibly the series as a whole.

Rating: Only if you're a collector of the series/character. (2 out of 5 EvilEyes).
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Everlost_MI
07-16-2006, 07:48 AM
The Next #1 of 6
Reviewed by: Everlost_MI (Brian K. Nichols), Editor in Chief
Publisher: DC Comics
Writer: Tad Williams
Penciler: Dietrich Smith
Inker: Waldon Wong
Colorist: Chris Chuckry
Letterer: Rob Leigh
Editor: Joey Cavalieri
Price: $2.99 US/$4.00 CAN

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The Next, are five life forms that are a few dozen centuries older and more evolved than humans on Earth in present day, went on a joy ride through a singularity harpoon traveling through time and space. The one named Dog deviated from the harpoon and as a result ended up on Earth. Since The Next can become nearly type of creature with a simple thought, Dog decided to become a dog and encountered Monikka Wong. The other four watched from afar and ended up nearly killing Monikka in an effort to scare her away from Dog so they could bring it back into the proper time/space continuity. However because of their good willed nature and feeling responsible for her near death, they bonded with her symbiotically in order to save her life. By the end of the issue, mayhem had ensued as the Next tried to adapt to Earth with humorous and dangerous results. One of those dangerous results was an attempt to repair the tear in the time/space continuum the Next created as they entered our time/universe. Superman was able to seal the tear, only to inadvertently creating a danger to the universe as a whole. The Man of Steel then began to track the source of repair but became a victim of the time field that was originally sent to fix the repair but due to his involvement it inadvertently caused yet another rip in the time/space continuum.

Tad Williams has created a quirky time/space story that is peppered with shots of humor in dialogue and characterizations. Dietrich Smith’s artwork is able to match the unusual storyline by providing a nice balance between the bizarre antics of The Next as well as the need to depict Superman and the world realistically.

Bottom Line:
You’ll get your money’s worth in regards to a story in this issue. So if you’re a fan of the a quirky story along the lines of X-Static or a time/space continuum stories that don’t require a massive amount of history of the DC universe, then this book is for you.

Rating: Decent, but leaf through it before buying it.. (3 1/2 out of 5 EvilEyes)
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Superman #654
Reviewed by: Everlost_MI (Brian K. Nichols), Editor in Chief
Publisher: DC Comics
Writer: Kurt Busiek
Penciler: Carlos Pacheco
Inker: Jesus Merino
Colors: Dave Stewart
Letters: Comicraft
Editor: Matt Idelson
Price: $2.99 US/$4.00 CAN

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Life begins to get back to “normal” for Mr. and Mrs. Kent and they attempt to celebrate their twelve-year anniversary of their first flight together during a busy Monday for The Man of Steel. Amidst this, Lana Lang and Dr. Carolyn Llewellyn, two women from Clark’s past surface. Dr. Llewellyn asked specifically for Clark to cover a secret project being conducted in a Kazakhstan mountain complex where someone that looks similar to Darkseid lurks in the shadow in the final panel of the issue.

Kurt Busiek shows the humanity and mindset of Superman as he tries to desperately balance his roles as superhero, husband and reporter in a day that never ceases to throw obstacles at him. The characterizations are decent but the dialogue in various parts felt as if it was out of a comic written in the early 70’s. Carlos Pacheco’s artwork is decent with the only item of complaint being the odd hairdo he bestowed upon Lois, it appears she’s wearing the skullcap of Ming the Merciless (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41196000/jpg/_41196644_merciless.jpg).

Bottom Line:
For fans of Astro City or Superman, this is a nice single story showing The Man of Steel getting back into his groove while giving a remarkable introspect.

Rating: Decent, but leaf through it before buying it.. (3 1/2 out of 5 EvilEyes)
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Thanks to the BBC ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/) for the Ming the Merciless picture. (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41196000/jpg/_41196644_merciless.jpg)

What else is worth reading this week…

Everlost’s take:
· Ultimate Fantastic Four #31 – Mark Millar takes the famous swapping of Richard’s and Doom’s minds out for a new spin. In the meantime, the zombie Fantastic Four lay waste to the Baxter Building before they open the gateway to their undead world.

KefkaTaran’s take:
· Civil War: Front Line #3 - Speedball gets an offer he can't refuse (but might anyways), and we'refinally given another example of anti-registration guys being bad. Also, some weird fish-man thing.

Heretic Machine
07-16-2006, 08:01 AM
Meh... I don't like the new Batgirl. I think she served a good function in No Man's Land (an excellent read, btw), I just don't like her. She comes from a part of the DC Universe that I just don't like very much.

EDIT: Also, thus far, I haven't been that impressed by Front Line. I'm hoping it'll pick up once the big fights start happening.

Sazime
07-16-2006, 08:05 AM
Wow, now I am glad I did not pick up Ghost Rider.

Is it just me or does that Batgirl concept seem like something Morrison would have a field day with? The guy is so good with unusual ideas. He'd be perfect for using that "body language" concept and really running with it.

Dr.Finger
07-16-2006, 08:11 AM
I really like Batgirl. I agree that they should have given the mute gimmick more time to breathe, but she really was a good character. On a side note Cassie Cain was not originally supposed to be Batgirl, she was supposed to be a wholly original character, but DC realized that original characters, especially female ones, just don't sell, so they plugged her into the Bat family.

Moatman
07-16-2006, 08:29 AM
Since the one year later jump at marvel, the character has been totally butchered. She had a bit of rough time in the last storyline of her book's run, and now they are playing her off as kind of an either misguided or just kinda crazy villain...

Since one year later, nightwing has also been a craptacular character that is being written totally out of character, though to be fair, they didn't have much planned for him since he was originally going to die in Infinite Crisis, they could at least not make him out to be a womanizer.

I had high hopes for batgirl, her series took to a slightly new setting and she was making new friends, very much following the path that made nightwing and robin good series. I guess the affirmative action push over at dc(they have admitted to this also) decided that a lesbian batwoman character was more important than an asian batgirl, and of course the new atom is asian(firestorm is black and blue beetle is hispanic, too) At least firestorm is a great read, atom got off to a decent start, and blue beetle is a bit tough to tell so far, could go either way.

Spigot
07-16-2006, 09:01 AM
How dare you slag my beloved Ghost Rider!

Granted, I can see where you're coming from. After the Ennis mini a lot of this issue really seemed redundant. I found the art quite good though and the dialogue was pretty snappy. Ah well. I'll just sit here in my pile of mediocre comics and drool like the idiot I am :P

I'm surprised you didn't make the comparison between Next #1 and Nextwave. I found the styles (both written and artistic) to be quite similar, although the stories are vastly different. I had a chuckle at the depiction of Supes in this issue too. I'll definately stick it out for the 6 issues.

Everlost_MI
07-16-2006, 10:06 AM
How dare you slag my beloved Ghost Rider!

Granted, I can see where you're coming from. After the Ennis mini a lot of this issue really seemed redundant. I found the art quite good though and the dialogue was pretty snappy. Ah well. I'll just sit here in my pile of mediocre comics and drool like the idiot I am :P
I dig GR myself, that's why I keep coming back for more. But after the lukewarm stuff that Ennis churned out and Way's work (which I find to be extremely mediocre in everything he touches) I am going to stay away lest I get burned by hellfire again. I am glad that the brought Saltares and Tex back because I dig their work in the 90's series.

In any case, it's just what I think about the issue. So that's why I gave it the rating of "Only if you're a collector of the series/character.And for the record I'd never call anyone an idiot, especially someone who can properly articulate his or her opinion and thoughts clearly. Then again...if you did say “GH0ST RYDER RULEZ!!! FSCKER!” then I'd have to call you an idiot. :D

I'm surprised you didn't make the comparison between Next #1 and Nextwave. I found the styles (both written and artistic) to be quite similar, although the stories are vastly different. I had a chuckle at the depiction of Supes in this issue too. I'll definately stick it out for the 6 issues.
Hmmm...good call - I didn't even see that possible comparison.

JazGalaxy
07-16-2006, 11:31 AM
I simultaneously loved and hated Batgirl.

They set up a brilliant dynamic for her, with her living with Oracle and not being able to speak, and then they went and knocked it all down to make it more trite for no particular reason. I hate when books do this, and it happens often. After she learned to talk, and live a "normal life" I pretty much lost interest.

cppcrusader
07-16-2006, 11:49 AM
I thought Ghost Rider wasn't that bad. Granted I haven't read Road to Damnation, and I do agree that the end was a bit predictable. Though it seems like anytime Satan is involved in anything be it comic, movie, etc. that happens.

Spigot
07-16-2006, 12:21 PM
I thought Ghost Rider wasn't that bad. Granted I haven't read Road to Damnation, and I do agree that the end was a bit predictable. Though it seems like anytime Satan is involved in anything be it comic, movie, etc. that happens.
I'm interested in where exactly the series goes after this issue. It was very much a set up issue in every respect. I'll definately give it a few more issues before I decide whether it's mediocre or a keeper, but I didn't mind the first issue at all.

Oh, and...

GH0ST RYDER RULEZ!!! FSCKER!

Everlost_MI
07-16-2006, 12:29 PM
Oh, and...

GH0ST RYDER RULEZ!!! FSCKER!

I bow to your superior use of language...;)

Oh and let me know if it does get better, I'll go back and get the missing issues.

balamoor
07-16-2006, 03:12 PM
And DC continues to kick Marvels ass lately (At least IMO ) in quality and story .

Heretic Machine
07-16-2006, 04:36 PM
And DC continues to kick Marvels ass lately (At least IMO ) in quality and story .

I couldn't disagree more. But can we please keep fanboy comments out of the comic topics at least?

Spigot
07-16-2006, 04:46 PM
I couldn't disagree more. But can we please keep fanboy comments out of the comic topics at least?
We need to use that hideous green text to delineate the fanboy comments from the rational ones.

I think both Marvel and DC are doing splendid jobs on their flagship BIG EVENTS. If you had asked me about 4 months ago if I'd be singing the praises of DC, I'd have laughed in your face. Yet here I am a few months later, looking through the splash pages on a DC book for clues to a weekly story involving a cast of characters I didn't even know existed at the beginning of the year. Not to mention my current love affair with he of the blond goatee, Mr. Oliver Queen himself. *swoon*

Meanwhile, I'm participating in podcasts debating which side of the Civil War is actually in the right while vigorously defending the crappy writing in my man Ghost Rider's latest book :)

I think both companies are doing great these days. The quality in the writing is greatly improved even from 2004-2005's books. I'm reading a huge stack of Fantastic Four's stretching back to 2004 at the moment and you can see the writing improve just in that run. That, on top of some top-notch art in all of the worthwhile comics these days continues to give credence to why comics are suddenly back in vogue and actually rebounding from their slump of a few years back.

Bah, now I'm wasting time yammering about this when I could be finishing that stack of comics.

MosBen
07-16-2006, 04:47 PM
In my huge pile of reviews last week, I *think* I forgot to mention that I also picked up Vol. 6 of Neil Gaiman's The Sandman series. I borrowed the entire series from a friend a year ago, so I've just been picking up the trades bit by bit. If you haven't read this series though (and I'm actually really interested in how many people here haven't read it), I think it's safe to say that it is, at LEAST, in the top five series of all time, though I might even put it higher.

MosBen
07-16-2006, 04:51 PM
Spigs (is that an official nickname now?), about Oliver Queen: I find it far too amusing that in Kevin Smith's run on the book Queen came back from the dead, but refused to believe Batman when informed of his own death because Bats showed him a picture taken before he died in which Mr. Queen had taken to wearing the hooded outfit. Not more than a few years later, and here we are with Green Arrow not in his Robin Hood outfit anymore and back to the brooding hood thing. Personally, i never much cared for that hood.

JazGalaxy
07-16-2006, 04:55 PM
I couldn't disagree more. But can we please keep fanboy comments out of the comic topics at least?

Honestly. DC is out of their minds, I think, with the quality of the artist they choose to keep around among other things. It's like they don't care. And with this hairbrained idea to "embrace continuity" and make you buy 100 issues a month to know whats going on... who has time for that? And then there's the absolutely terrible attention getting decisions that make no sense like Supergirl and the Legion...

ugh...

Spigot
07-16-2006, 05:18 PM
Spigs (is that an official nickname now?)
Seems like it, doesn't it. Ah well. If I can call Kefkateran, "My little keffy weffy," well, Spigs is ok by me.
...about Oliver Queen: I find it far too amusing that in Kevin Smith's run on the book Queen came back from the dead, but refused to believe Batman when informed of his own death because Bats showed him a picture taken before he died in which Mr. Queen had taken to wearing the hooded outfit. Not more than a few years later, and here we are with Green Arrow not in his Robin Hood outfit anymore and back to the brooding hood thing. Personally, i never much cared for that hood.
I haven't really read anything Green Arrow related in many, many, MANY years (aside from the occasional guest spot here and there) so this is really my first time reading that book on a regular basis. I really like it, hood and all. I did find a REALLY old JSA/JLA comic from the 70's in my box downstairs with some Green Arrow goodness in it, so I'm going to read them and see how they compare to today's Arrow.

Whee!

balamoor
07-16-2006, 06:09 PM
I couldn't disagree more. But can we please keep fanboy comments out of the comic topics at least?

Wasn't really meant as a Fanboy comment Peri, I have just been enjoying my DC titles more than my Marvel titles lately, hence the "IMO"

Sheesh folks are touchy lately. :rolleyes:

digitalErich
07-16-2006, 06:37 PM
Wasn't really meant as a Fanboy comment Peri, I have just been enjoying my DC titles more than my Marvel titles lately, hence the "IMO"

Sheesh folks are touchy lately. :rolleyes:
I would ask you what Marvel books you are reading then. If anything I'm more of a DC man, by both purchase volume and knowledge. But, if I had to name my top 10 or 15 comics right now, Marvel would have a slight majority, even though I buy more DC books week to week. This is DC as in DCU I'm talking about, not DC as in the publisher, btw.

MosBen
07-16-2006, 06:39 PM
I really liked Kevin Smith's run on Green Arrow. It's not going to blow the barn doors off the artsy fartsy crowd, of which I am somewhat of a member myself, but it's classic Smith: great characterizations and sharp dialog.

Kefkataran
07-16-2006, 07:30 PM
Meh... I don't like the new Batgirl. I think she served a good function in No Man's Land (an excellent read, btw), I just don't like her. She comes from a part of the DC Universe that I just don't like very much.

EDIT: Also, thus far, I haven't been that impressed by Front Line. I'm hoping it'll pick up once the big fights start happening.

Wow, I disagree on both points. :p I haven't read much Batgirl yet, though, beyond this trade, so my feelings could quickly change. I really like Front Line though. I think it's giving a great look at behind the scenes happenings and deepening the story of Civil War, and there's always at least one "moment" in each issue. Love that.


Is it just me or does that Batgirl concept seem like something Morrison would have a field day with? The guy is so good with unusual ideas. He'd be perfect for using that "body language" concept and really running with it.

Oh god yes. He'd've done something crazy good with this character while she was mute.

Since one year later, nightwing has also been a craptacular character that is being written totally out of character, though to be fair, they didn't have much planned for him since he was originally going to die in Infinite Crisis, they could at least not make him out to be a womanizer.

Yeah, Bruce Jones's Nightwing has been fucking TERRIBLE. But, hey, at least we know Marv Wolfman is taking over soon, and I know Wolfman can write a better Nightwing.


They set up a brilliant dynamic for her, with her living with Oracle and not being able to speak, and then they went and knocked it all down to make it more trite for no particular reason. I hate when books do this, and it happens often. After she learned to talk, and live a "normal life" I pretty much lost interest.

Yeah, it was hard to tell with this single trade, but I had a bad feeling that the character would become a whole lot less interesting the longer she went with the ability to speak. :\ Too bad.

Also, guys, what's with the Marvel and DC hate? I understand avoiding one of them for your checkbook's sake, but both companies have been pumping out an astounding number of awesome titles with the highest caliber of writers and artists. And anyone suggesting DC is guilty of forcing you to read "100 titles a month" hasn't read anything to do with One Year Later OR Civil War for that matter. ;) They also explained Supergirl and the Legion pretty well.

agentgray
07-16-2006, 07:32 PM
Meanwhile, I'm participating in podcasts debating which side of the Civil War is actually in the right while vigorously defending the crappy writing in my man Ghost Rider's latest book :)

Ooops. I gotta get with Kef on finishing that up. One of the best podcasts I've heard in a while and I'm hoarding it all to myself.

Kefkataran
07-16-2006, 07:38 PM
I don't blame you, Nat. ;)

balamoor
07-16-2006, 08:05 PM
I would ask you what Marvel books you are reading then. If anything I'm more of a DC man, by both purchase volume and knowledge. But, if I had to name my top 10 or 15 comics right now, Marvel would have a slight majority, even though I buy more DC books week to week. This is DC as in DCU I'm talking about, not DC as in the publisher, btw.


The standard fair. I have had these subscriptions since 1976; Iron man Hulk, Fantastic Four Amazing Spider Man, Avengers, X-men.

And yes I have tried the Ultimates but as I have said before I truly don't like the Edgy for the sake of Edginess factor of Ultimates.

But back to the Fanboy comment I have always brought more Marvel than DC, but lately as in the past Three years lately I have been enjoying DC more. I have also noticed folks getting really pissed off when I say I have been enjoying my Batman Superman Justice League over Marvel…sorry I will endeavor to be like everyone else. :cool:

digitalErich
07-16-2006, 08:12 PM
The standard fair. I have had these subscriptions since 1976 [...]X-men.
Well, there's your problem...: ) J/K

No one wants you to conform. Most people want to hear an interesting and relevant argument concerning a subject matter they are into, even if they don't agree with it. But therein lies the rub...I don't think (and I think most people will agree with me) that the DC vs Marvel arguments are either A) interestnig or B) relevant in any way to a particular comic, event, arc, etc from either publisher.

Spigot
07-16-2006, 08:15 PM
Ooops. I gotta get with Kef on finishing that up. One of the best podcasts I've heard in a while and I'm hoarding it all to myself.
It really turned out good, even with all the crazy feedback and interuptions? Cool!

I know you haven't posted it up because you've been too busy sitting by the door, waiting for the package from Lik-Sang to arrive.

TrackZero
07-16-2006, 09:01 PM
Am I the only one who got a vibe from the cover/review for "The Next" that it's a DC rip-off of Nextwave?

(Not to start a Marvel/DC war, I'm just refering to this specific series.)

digitalErich
07-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Am I the only one who got a vibe from the cover/review for "The Next" that it's a DC rip-off of Nextwave?
There are similarities in tone as far as the light-heartedness goes, but I don't think I wouldn't call it a rip-off by any means.

Kefkataran
07-16-2006, 10:41 PM
Am I the only one who got a vibe from the cover/review for "The Next" that it's a DC rip-off of Nextwave?

http://www.newsaramablog.com/2006/07/14/swiping-at-swiping/#comments

I didn't read the Next personally, but it didn't sound too similar to Nextwave. If the comments there are to be believed, it's mostly just sort of similar in art but slightly less so in tone/story. Either way, as they said there, if it's a rip-off, someone moved awfully quick, so I doubt it.

Spigot
07-17-2006, 02:56 PM
Am I the only one who got a vibe from the cover/review for "The Next" that it's a DC rip-off of Nextwave?

(Not to start a Marvel/DC war, I'm just refering to this specific series.)
No, you're not, especially since I've made mention of it at least twice in a few threads!

I don't see it so much as a rip-off as much as a book with a very similar style and tone. If anything, The Next is a little more grounded in reality, and this is a series that revolves around a bunch of extradimentional non-corporeal beings that can change shape and warp time on a whim.

Nextwave is more or less a complete send-up of the superhero genre while The Next sort of takes itself seriously within the confines of its book. They're both goofy, but Nextwave is just silly.

Having a very similar name doesn't help diffuse comparisons though.