TEAM FORTRESS 2 LIVES (and more)

[Varsity]

Stop the presses! Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/) is reporting that Valve have re-unveiled none other than Team Fortress 2 at EA's Summer Showcase (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6153984.html).

Team Fortress 2 is back and will be included with Episode Two, and it looks like nothing else on the market. Newell explained that Valve wanted to make this action game distinct, so the graphics look like a Pixar animated movie. To reinforce this, the various character classes in the game look like cartoon caricatures...cont. (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6153984.html)
Other Valve news from the conference:
Episode 2 will ship for Xbox 360 and PS3 simultaneously with the PC and with all of the HL2 back content. Precisely what "HL2 back content" means is up in the air ATM.
A former WETA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weta_Digital) employee is building a "cinematic physics" system for Source. Bridge collapses and other epic scenes ensue.
"New [soft] particle systems, better foliage, and more" for Source as well.
Valve are making a new game called Portal, which will also ship with Ep2. Prey’s stomach-curning portal trickery launched at whim from the "Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device". Stems from Narbicular Drop (http://www.nuclearmonkeysoftware.com/narbaculardrop.html).

Watch this space for trailers! (http://storefront.steampowered.com/v2/index.php?area=media)

Thanks to Mike Jones for submitting the HL:EP 2 info at the same time.

www.teamfortress2.com is already slashdotted! :D

[Captain Awesome]

OMG OMG! I'm so glad Valve decided to make TF2 very distinctive looking. I dont know what it looks like but im sure they will use Source's very detailed animation system to do cool things with this new art style?


Im sure they saw thr droves of modern warfare art styles for these kind of games and decided they didnt want to be bunched up with them :)

[Zanzibar]

Heh - I knew I made a good decision by passing on HL2 for the Xbox. One HL2 360, if you please.

[thecrazyd]

Fucking awesome. Can't wait to see some screens.

[MasterEvilAce]

HOLY CRAP. THIS CAME OUT OF LEFT FIELD!!!

YES.

I've been having TFC withdrawls. The old game is nothing but grenade spam.. and hell i couldn't find ANY servers with real people (all were bots)

[torrefaction]

Hell. Fuck. YEAH. It's looking more and more like I won't have to update my PC for a long time :D

[RevXwise]

Oh wow, I've been looking forward to this game for about 5-6 years. I can't wait to see what it finally ends up looking like

[StANTo]

People were theorising that TF: 2 would be given away with HL: 2 E: 2 for a while now.

[Varsity]

People were theorising that TF: 2 would be given away with HL: 2 E: 2 for a while now.
As they did with every Valve release. It was only a matter of time until they hit gold. ;)

[Royal Fool]

Wow. Portal, Team Fortess Classic 2 and Episode 2. And then there's The Ship... damn it Valve, you make me want to buy more stuff.

Oh... and a new SSX (They're most likely not porting the old ones to the Wii), hopefully better than On Tour was. And NFS Carbon sounds cool.

[TheKeck]

I just hope this is isn't a repeat of Half-life 2.

SURPRISE!!!!! We've secretly been developing this highly anticipated game and it's coming out in a matter of months!!!!

::Wait a year and a half::


EDIT: Don't be fooled by my negativity in this post. Half-life 2 is one of my favorite games and I'm totally excited for TF2. :D

[easi]

Fuck this. Consolitis claims the last great PC franchise.

[torrefaction]

I'm actually really looking forward to Superman Returns, especially out of the movie (This isn't really off topic...it's part of EA's release thingy!) It looks like they're doing some really cool things. Anyone know when the current release date is?

[torrefaction]

Fuck this. Consolitis claims the last great PC franchise.

You're an asshole for even THINKING this. Valve deserves to make as much money off of this great game as possible. It's not like it's being dumbed down for PC...it's a fucking FPS.

[thecrazyd]

Fuck this. Consolitis claims the last great PC franchise.
That is an interesting claim to make with next to no information on the game.

[torrefaction]

Wow...and Mike Jones submitted positive 360 news AND said he was going to have to buy a 360 both in the same day.

[easi]

You're an asshole for even THINKING this. Valve deserves to make as much money off of this great game as possible.

Do PC gamers deserve to have all their favourite titles turned into mass-marketed dumbed-down tripe?

It's not like it's being dumbed down for PC...it's a fucking FPS.

Deus Ex.

[StoneGut]

YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! !!!!

This is some great news for all gamers (Console and PC).

[Shodan2020]

I've been waiting 7 years for this.

I hope they allow you to use the old TFC skins if you don't like the new ones.. :)

My demoman has to be chomping a cigar with an eyepatch.. otherwise it just don't feel right.

[thecrazyd]

Do PC gamers deserve to have all their favourite titles turned into mass-marketed dumbed-down tripe?
And why are you assuming it will be, seeing that we know next to nothing about this game?

[Deadend]

Demolitions experts need to be french in my mind. Pyros need to be twitchey.

I think a cartoon style would work well for how TF plays ,what with the conc grenade jumping, rocket jumping and all the insane weapons, keeping it realistic seems a bit... odd.

[torrefaction]

Do PC gamers deserve to have all their favourite titles turned into mass-marketed dumbed-down tripe?



Deus Ex.

Both stupid things to say. This is Valve we're talking about. I'm a PC Gamer, but I'm DAMN happy I can get all the HDR goodies without having to upgrade my computer right now.

Also, Half Life 2 is nothing more than a straight-forward, cinematic FPS. This is not a damn RPG. What you're missing here, with your pc-fanboyblinditis, is that HL2 is nothing revolutionary as far as gameplay goes. It's not DEEP. But it's immersive, fun, and easy to grasp. Which makes it perfect for the 360.

[easi]

And why are you assuming it will be, seeing that we know next to nothing about this game?

Several years of precedent?

[thecrazyd]

Several years of precedent?
By Valve? No, not by Valve.

[51|RandoM]

yay. YAY. yay. YAY.

I can't wait to pipebomb jump into an enemy base again.



oh no, they're going to ship pc, 360, and ps3 versions simultaneously. If I have to wait that long, I kind of wish I'd never heard the story, lol.

[Captain Awesome]

yay. YAY. yay. YAY.

I can't wait to pipebomb jump into an enemy base again.


Yes! im so very giddy :D

[Oblivion]

Several years of precedent?

please stop your trolling and shitting the BEST PC GAMES NEWS IN A LONG FUCKING TIME!

[Sensei-X]

Several years of precedent?

Deus Ex:IW sucked royally not because they had a console version, but because the developers were a bunch of cheap, lazy bastards who couldn't be bothered to make a true PC version, instead they made a dumbed down version that worked well on both Xbox and PC and called it a day. They should've done like Ubisoft is doing with Splinter Cell: DA and make separate versions that better suit the hardware they are made for, instead of aiming for the lowest common denominator.

If HL2 sucks on Xbox 360 and PS3 it'll be because Valve sucks not the consoles, because games like Hitman Blood Money and COD2 have proven (at least for the X360, even though i'm pretty sure it'll hold true for the PS3) that PC-to-console ports are not a problem with the newer more powerful consoles.

[Eran Hawke]

i'm so happy they decided to make the game look cartoony and stylish. Once again, gameplay trumps graphics.

With more stylized graphics, the game will look good longer. Like Wind Waker will look good far into the future, so will Team Fortress 2. When you try to make a 'real' looking game, it is soon surpassed by another slightly more-looking game. Team Fortress 2 should have a style that lasts for years, much longer than the average attention of regular games.

[The Continental]

I wonder if this means I'll get my preorder money back. :)

Number 2 on the greatest vaporware titles of all time is going to see the light of day!
Ball is in your court 3D Realms.

[Abash Alarmist]

Besides, HalfLife 2 being the last great PC franchise? Please. You also got all the Blizzard games: Warcraft, World of Wacraft, Starcraft, Diablo; add on Dawn of War, Total War, Neverwinter Nights, original style Baldur's Gate, etc.

They are there. Just take off your goggles of blinding rage +5 to see them.

[GrinR]

"cartoony"

Perhaps they should have said, "even MORE cartoony" considering how Counterstrike and Half Life look.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5535/image293242vk.jpg

Rainbow Six: Vegas is "not cartoony" (for reference).

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6716/art4559id29gn.jpg

[thecrazyd]

Half Life and CS look cartoony? The hell?

[Fuzzwah]

Need. Video. Now.

[bapenguin]

Crazy. First Prey is released. The TF2 is ressurected. What next...Duke Nuke Forever Screens?

[The Continental]

Rainbow Six: Vegas is "not cartoony" (for reference).

Correct, Rainbow Six: Vegas is "glossy", the style that passes for "realistic", in which everything from matte black cloth to rough, unpolished rock has an over exposed gleam to it courtesy of an overabundance of HDR lighting.

I think I'll take cartoony.

[Schnoogs]

Correct, Rainbow Six: Vegas is "glossy", the style that passes for "realistic", in which everything from matte black cloth to rough, unpolished rock has an over exposed gleam to it courtesy of an overabundance of HDR lighting.

I think I'll take cartoony.

Amen to this.

[Royal Fool]

"Troll"

They should have said "even more trolly", considering it's a GrinR post.

[Kefkataran]

Kick-ass news. Cannot wait to see more.

[Captain Awesome]

That CS:S shot is far from cartoony. You sure you know what you're talking about?

[Franjo]

Mike Jones!

[digitalErich]

What more is there to say? I'm releaved they are going with this "cartoony" style not becasue of the visuals, but because that implies it isn't going to be CS with classes. Cartoony style seems to imply they will keep the TF gameplay spirit with rocket jumping and crazy gadgets. This is awesome news...conc jumping FTW.

[Cubfan]

Wow. I've held of on picking up Half-Life 2. I considered the Xbox version and thought about updating my PC just to play it, but I always had a feeling it might be released on the 360. This is absolutely fantastic news. Now if Gamefly would just hurry up with my copy of Prey, I'd be one happy camper.

[Sophism]

Mike Jones!
Indeed.

I remember TF2 being on my "Games to Buy" list at the same time that all of the Dreamcast launch titles were. It'll be really nice to see where it's gone since then. :)

[Mike Jones]

Wow...and Mike Jones submitted positive 360 news AND said he was going to have to buy a 360 both in the same day.

Let's not get out of hand here. It's for the PS3 also and the PS3 allows K/B mouse so the 360 version is a pile of trash compared to it :D

BTW if anyone has half-life 2 pc check out SourceForts

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sourceforts

http://www.sourcefortsmod.com/images/media/screen_0005.jpg

Editor's Note: If you continue to post crazy large images you will be banned.

[thecrazyd]

Let's not get out of hand here. It's for the PS3 also and the PS3 allows K/B mouse so the 360 version is a pile of trash compared to it :D
Has it been confirmed that the PS3 allows kb / mouse support in game? If so, got a link?

[Mike Jones]

Has it been confirmed that the PS3 allows kb / mouse support in game? If so, got a link?

Nope. But the PS3 Supports K/B Mouse for games, the 360 does not.

[Paranoia]

Nope. But the PS3 Supports K/B Mouse for games, the 360 does not.

What a load of bullshit.

[digitalErich]

Here is link: http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/01/sonys-adding-a-keyboard-and-mouse-to-the-ps3-eh/

Take this with a grain of salt though, this announcement was made back when Sony was still telling ppl that the PS3 would support six USB devices.

[Paranoia]

Here is link: http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/01/sonys-adding-a-keyboard-and-mouse-to-the-ps3-eh/

Take this with a grain of salt though, this announcement was made back when Sony was still telling ppl that the PS3 would support six USB devices.

Don't forget 2 HMDI output, 1 SKU, 120fps, Spring 2006, "4D", etc.

[TrackZero]

Very awesome update. Though who is Gabe kidding? The PS3 still won't be out when Episode 2 is released. ;)

[digitalErich]

Don't forget 2 HMDI output, 1 SKU, 120fps, Spring 2006, "4D", etc.
Exactly why you need that grain of salt...fuck it, you probably need a whole bag of the stuff.

[Nameback]

There screenies anywhere?

[digitalErich]

There screenies anywhere?
The main news post says the links are coming...teamfortress.com got slashdotted.

[kid cabelgo]

Both stupid things to say. This is Valve we're talking about. I'm a PC Gamer, but I'm DAMN happy I can get all the HDR goodies without having to upgrade my computer right now.

Also, Half Life 2 is nothing more than a straight-forward, cinematic FPS. This is not a damn RPG. What you're missing here, with your pc-fanboyblinditis, is that HL2 is nothing revolutionary as far as gameplay goes. It's not DEEP. But it's immersive, fun, and easy to grasp. Which makes it perfect for the 360.

/agree

Although my concern with a multiple release would be that while taking into consideration the people on consoles with controllers, they lower the difficulty to make up for the lack of precision, which in turn makes it too easy for pc gamers.
I would doubt this though. my guess would be an autoaiming system for the console versions, and possibly some subtle differences between the games to make the pc version a little more difficult.
i have so much faith in valve after their last few releases. hell, their entire release history really.

[Captain Awesome]

I'm still so excited, I punched a homeless guy on the way home.

[jadkins555]

Half-Life 2 should also include a Collector's Edition with Half-Life 1 and its two expansions. id Software did it with Quake 4, VALVe can do it with Half-Life 2.

[Fuzzwah]

Yeah, but Q4 sucked....

[Guy Mariano]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/718/718522p1.html

UPDATE: Electronic Arts has clarified that Counter-Strike: Source is not yet confirmed for the PS3 and X360 versions of Half-Life 2.

:mad:

[Bargash]

Can't wait for TF2. Time to reform the clan I made 8 years ago for it. :)

[Nameback]

Can't wait for TF2. Time to reform the clan I made 8 years ago for it. :)

Ditto, just hope its possible to track down all my old friends.

[Norse]

This is a joke right?

[Banacek]

Wow, there's some really miserable people on here.

I wonder how it's going to work with XBox Live. Since I bought HL and EP1 on Steam, but I'd love to be able to buy EP2 and TF2 over Live.

/If you're a person who feels the need to type about keyboard/mouse vs. controller on online forums, you need to re-evaluate your life. Maybe get out of the house.

[Nintendo Revolution]

Not sure if anybody will believe me, but I've played this portal game Valve is talking about and it's freaking awesome. It's been made by former Digipen students. Definately going to be kick ass.

[BloodPack]

Why do I feel cheated for being an early adopter of HL2? I mean I paid the $50 for the game, then I paid $20 for DoD Source, EP1 and Sin Episodes. Now I have to pay $20 for ship. portal, EP2, and TF2, while later adopters get everything for the small price of $60. As far as I am concerend that sucks.

[Watership]

Deus Ex.[/QUOTE]

I hate how Deus Ex came out and raped my childhood, and it was because of CONSOLES. Of course it wasn't the development teams fault.. no sir.

[Paranoia]

Why do I feel cheated for being an early adopter of HL2?

Dude, it happens to all early adopters!

[thecrazyd]

Why do I feel cheated for being an early adopter of HL2? I mean I paid the $50 for the game, then I paid $20 for DoD Source, EP1 and Sin Episodes. Now I have to pay $20 for ship. portal, EP2, and TF2, while later adopters get everything for the small price of $60. As far as I am concerend that sucks.
You also got to play it way earlier. You pay extra to not have to wait 2 years.

[megaman]

What does EA have to do with episode 2 or tf2?

[thecrazyd]

What does EA have to do with episode 2 or tf2?
They are publishing the box version.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

The news about the 360/PS3 versions came out of nowhere, but that's really great. Since that's about all the gaming I do on my PC, maybe I can avoid upgrading now. :)

I've never played Team Fortress since I didn't really have a computer that could run video games until about 3 years ago.

[tombofsoldier]

Oh yeah, TF2 is pc only. Sorry console boys.

Also, Pc version still going to beat the crap out of console version.
Reason: http://www.blackmesasource.com/

[Zeal]

Yo where the pics at.

[Banacek]

Oh yeah, TF2 is pc only. Sorry console boys.

Wow, it's crazy to think that some people may actually own both. Anyway, PC == Online Cheating, so have fun with that.

[Fyd]

i cant believe it !!! great news, w000t tf2 !!

[Varsity]

Anyway, PC == Online Cheating, so have fun with that.
You are SO up to date*!

*Not actually true.

[Pretzel]

Oh yeah, TF2 is pc only. Sorry console boys.

Also, Pc version still going to beat the crap out of console version.
Reason: http://www.blackmesasource.com/

According to GameSpy (http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/half-life-2/718540p1.html), TF2 is going to be included in the console version.

[thecrazyd]

Wow, it's crazy to think that some people may actually own both.
You are right, that is pretty ridiculous.
Anyway, PC == Online Cheating, so have fun with that.
That is one of the stupidest things I have heard today.

[Chalex]

Are these games going to be disc based or is there going to be a steam system like on the PC?

I'm quite excited by the prospect of a single game eating the last 7 some odd GB on my 360 HDD.

[Banacek]

You are right, that is pretty ridiculous.

That is one of the stupidest things I have heard today.

So your claim is that cheating isn't all over games like online FPSer's like CounterStrike?

EDIT: I should change that. Games with servers constantly monitored because they are controlled by the publisher can exist without a good amount of cheating. That being said, the oppertunities for cheating on the PC are insanely greater than on a system like 360/Live.

[Varsity]

So your claim is that cheating isn't all over games like online FPSer's like CounterStrike?
Yes. Welcome to the world of VAC2, and the present tense.

[Banacek]

Yes. Welcome to the world of VAC2, and the present tense.

Cheating is still going on with VAC2:

"The main drawback for this approach is that a large number of cheaters are rampaging public servers, unaware that they will be banned at a later date, or even while aware, exploiting the time given to them for destructive behavior. This means that often while public servers appear cheat-free at the beginning of the week, they seem 1.6ish at the end."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike:_cheating

The odd thing is that wiki tells you way too much about how to cheat.

[Varsity]

That's outdated. Probably from back when VAC2 was only just introduced. These days, you can't even get the cheats (http://dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66297).

[Banacek]

That's outdated. Probably from back when VAC2 was only just introduced. These days, you can't even get the cheats (http://dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66297).

Seems I was wrong. I guess they fixed it. I really never thought I'd see the day where online cheating in CS was a thing of the past.

What annoys me is that there are people out there right now trying to find a way around that. It's like the kids in school that would go to such absurd lengths to cheat. It would just be easier to play and get the skills yourself.

Anyway, I still think the internet suffers from the lowest common denominator syndrome, and it's prevalant in online games. But in that aspect Live(Halo 2) and PC seem to be at the same level.

I apologize for my misinformed post before.

[Opty]

The game that is essentially the parent of that Portal game is Narbacular Drop (http://www.nuclearmonkeysoftware.com/narbaculardrop.html), made by 4 DigiPen seniors a year or two ago. The game uses the Hammer map editor so anyone can make maps for it, and that's why (or part of the reason why) those students got jobs at Valve.

[Morratut]

Excellent news. I'm looking forward to playing this team fortress game. Everybody raves about it.

I must get round to playing Half Life 2 on my PC. I got to the boat and stopped playing because of Resident Evil 4 a last year :o

Steam is all updated and everything i just need to get around clicking on that icon :D

[Varsity]

I must get round to playing Half Life 2 on my PC. I got to the boat and stopped playing because of Resident Evil 4 a last year :o
Get in there, the game hasn't even started yet! :p

[t3g]

Heh I remember waiting for and covering this game back in 1999-2001 when I did this Team Fortress fansite for Mplayer called TheFortress.org

[Mozgus]

Dammit! I need to see at least one screenshot! Did no one sneak a camera phone into that place?! It said they were shown trailers...

Oh and guess who's super pissed about this news?

http://forums.fortress-forever.com/showthread.php?t=5478

Somehow these guys have seen the game in action before the rest of us, and they already know everything there is to know about it. You heard it there first, people. TF2 sucks shit. Don't even bother waiting for it. :rolleyes:

[Captain Awesome]

Dammit! I need to see at least one screenshot! Did no one sneak a camera phone into that place?! It said they were shown trailers...

Oh and guess who's super pissed about this news?

http://forums.fortress-forever.com/showthread.php?t=5478

Somehow these guys have seen the game in action before the rest of us, and they already know everything there is to know about it. You heard it there first, people. TF2 sucks shit. Don't even bother waiting for it. :rolleyes:


hahahaha, childish.

[kid cabelgo]

Excellent news. I'm looking forward to playing this team fortress game. Everybody raves about it.

I must get round to playing Half Life 2 on my PC. I got to the boat and stopped playing because of Resident Evil 4 a last year :o

Steam is all updated and everything i just need to get around clicking on that icon :D

Oh god you must get back to Res Evil 4!

It's sooooooooooo goddamn goooooooood!!!

Also, I just read a bunch of the posts on that FF site and couldn't stop shaking my head. Those guys are really pissed.

Wow, after reading that TFC2's graphics are inspired by a Pixar movie, I lost all excitement about the game. Christ, it sounds like an episode of Looney Toons now.

Childish indeed.

[Varsity]

Something sizeable is being uploaded to Steam. Fingers crossed for the trailers!

[Mozgus]

Something sizeable is being uploaded to Steam. Fingers crossed for the trailers!
Where'd you see that at?

[Varsity]

The stats page (http://steampowered.com/status/status.html), of course. It didn't turn out as large as it looked like, but going on the fact that the Ep2 teaser is 50MB we could still be in business.

Edit: it's Friday too, which means weekly update. Definitely going to be seeing something soon.

[Nerv]

Holy stuttering christ, YES.

TFC was always pretty damned cartoony anyway, grenade jumps anyone?

[Morratut]

Oh god you must get back to Res Evil 4!

It's sooooooooooo goddamn goooooooood!!!



Resident Evil 4 is awesome. Last year I started playing HL2 and then RE4 came out. As soon as I started playing RE4 i forgot about HL2 :D beat RE4 and just haven't got around to playing HL2 again.

[Captain Awesome]

I just read a bunch of the posts on that FF site and couldn't stop shaking my head. Those guys are really pissed.


I find it funny that they're angry at the company that created the franchise that their mod is based off of. :)

[Mozgus]

The stats page (http://steampowered.com/status/status.html), of course. It didn't turn out as large as it looked like, but going on the fact that the Ep2 teaser is 50MB we could still be in business.

Edit: it's Friday too, which means weekly update. Definitely going to be seeing something soon.
I dont see where that page shows anything about Valve uploading trailers to their servers. I had already looked there.

[Varsity]

Dips in available bandwidth are because the servers are receiving new content.

[Kamalot]

Has it been confirmed that the PS3 allows kb / mouse support in game? If so, got a link?
Unless the KBD / Mouse support works in all or most games, it isn't worth bringing up as a 'feature'. Dreamcast had keyboard and mouse support in a fair number of FPS games (and Typing of the Dead) but not the majority of games.

And how the hell are you going to mouse / kbd from your sofa?

[Å®ÇTÌ¢ VåmÞ‡®Ë]

Seems I was wrong. I guess they fixed it. I really never thought I'd see the day where online cheating in CS was a thing of the past.

What annoys me is that there are people out there right now trying to find a way around that. It's like the kids in school that would go to such absurd lengths to cheat. It would just be easier to play and get the skills yourself.

Anyway, I still think the internet suffers from the lowest common denominator syndrome, and it's prevalant in online games. But in that aspect Live(Halo 2) and PC seem to be at the same level.

I apologize for my misinformed post before.

You haven't..Cheats are still around CS, leaps and bounds..
They have them now that are non-vacable( they modify game files :| )
Then they have others, as long as CS is out, their will be cheaters..
period
Playing 1.5k hours of CSS in the last 18 months I've seen them all just about..You can tell when VAC2 updates as they disappear for a few weeks until they can work around it.. :\

ontopic:
GREAT NEWS!!!!!
I've been waiting for this for awhile..I do not want ep2 just TF2 :)

[51|RandoM]

Wow, it's crazy to think that some people may actually own both. Anyway, PC == Online Cheating, so have fun with that.


Yeah, cause nobody ever cheats at halo or halo2... lol.

[51|RandoM]

And how the hell are you going to mouse / kbd from your sofa?

The same way I do with my pc.

[Food Nipple]

The same way I do with my pc.

your sofa has a desk at the right level directly in front of it?

[Kamalot]

The same way I do with my pc.
I have a wireless kbd and a gyroscopic mouse I use for my media PC. No way I'd play any serious games with it though. The keyboard is too cumbersome to use on my lap for anything other than URL entry IMDB lookups.

[Varsity]

about..You can tell when VAC2 updates as they disappear for a few weeks until they can work around it.. :\
VAC2 hasn't been updated since December. I wouldn't believe everything a cheater tells you - they are doing it for attention, remember.

[51|RandoM]

I have a wireless kbd and a gyroscopic mouse I use for my media PC. No way I'd play any serious games with it though. The keyboard is too cumbersome to use on my lap for anything other than URL entry IMDB lookups.


lapdesk. I played doom3 entirely on my projector. It was an experience made much more intense by a 12 foot wide screen and my HT audio setup.



You'll still run across the occassional cheaters in CS or DoD, but you shouldn't be playing on servers without active admins anyways, imho. There are so many quality servers out there with almost continual admin presence it makes it easy to find a good one.

[Banacek]

Yeah, cause nobody ever cheats at halo or halo2... lol.

Read the whole thread.

[Captain Awesome]

Holyshit
http://www.steampowered.com/download/Team_Fortress_2_Group_Photo.jpg


This looks so awesome!

[Kefkataran]

Oh my god. Is that it? That looks sweet!

[mpsmith]

"Awesome" like bad results from a biopsy?

[Mozgus]

I love it. This is a great visual style for TF. It suits the game.

[mikeohara]

can't wait to see this :)

[MasterEvilAce]

HOLY CRAP. That looks cel-shaded.. That's a CRAZY design. Thank god it doesn't look like how TF2 looked a long time ago. That would be boring

this reallly sets it apart

[Mozgus]

HOLY CRAP. That looks cel-shaded.. That's a CRAZY design. Thank god it doesn't look like how TF2 looked a long time ago. That would be boring

this reallly sets it apart
It's not cel-shaded. More like Team Fortress Incredibles.

[MasterEvilAce]

yeah it's not, but it's similarish. Very unique design for a game