Opera DS Review

[bapenguin]

The Org Tech Times Blog (http://my.opera.com/organicchunkysalsa/blog/show.dml/309706) has a hands on review of the Opera web browser for the Nintendo DS. When I started it up I was browsing in dual screen mode. Basically the page was fit to the width of the screen and the height spanned both screens. With an easy touch of the stylus you can switch into a "zoom" mode where you are presented with a picture of the web page on the top screen and on the bottom screen you can drag a box around to see in actual size what you need to view. You can also simply swap the screens so that you can type in text as needed where fields or check boxes etc. are presented.

Pretty cool, but $33 seems way to expensive for a web browser.

Thanks Mozgus for the heads up.

[Mozgus]

Sorry for not making it a proper news post. I don't own a DS and I have jack to say about this. But it does seem real cool.

Well $33 is probably fair in most people's eyes. I can't remember too well, but I think the Dreamcast originally came with web browser discs, versions 1.x-2.6, then later, the 3.0 disc cost $20 I believe. But since this is a portable browser, I guess the extra cost makes up for it.

[emperordahc]

You're also getting 2 carts; one main DS cart and one that fits in the GBA slot (2 versions, one for phat and one for lite) that is for updates/cache/etc.

$33 is a bit too much for that. However, the GBA slot cart, since it's actual storage hardware, may be eating quite a bit of the cash up.

I'm a DS guy, but the PSP's browser was free. If it was $10 - $15, I'd pick it up w/o thinking about it.

[51|RandoM]

Pretty cool, but $33 seems way to expensive for a web browser.


Do you know any cheaper solutions for browsing the web from a portable device with similar screen real estate? I didn't think so. :-)

[bapenguin]

Do you know any cheaper solutions for browsing the web from a portable device with similar screen real estate? I didn't think so. :-)

Umm...there's the free one on the PSP.

Or any of the number of free ones for Palm/Windows Mobile devices.

[NoName]

Umm...there's the free one on the PSP.
Sure, the PSP web browser is free, but Random asked about a cheaper portable device ;).

[51|RandoM]

Umm...there's the free one on the PSP.

Or any of the number of free ones for Palm/Windows Mobile devices.


....and those devices cost more than a DS.
....and none of them have as much screen real estate.

Simple fact of the matter in this case is that you're not paying for the browser. Repeat after me: "I am not paying for the browser." You're paying for the medium(cards) that the browser comes on and that the memory storage comes on.

[bapenguin]

....and those devices cost more than a DS.
....and none of them have as much screen real estate.

Simple fact of the matter in this case is that you're not paying for the browser. Repeat after me: "I am not paying for the browser." You're paying for the medium(cards) that the browser comes on and that the memory storage comes on.

Yes they cost more (though not a Palm...you can get them for 100 bucks). And most Palm's have the same resolution.

DS Res: 320x480
Palm Resolutions (most): 320x480
PSP resolution: 480x272

btw...I'm not saying this should be free. $9.99 should cover the cost for it I would think though. Hell even $14.99. When Brain Age is only $19.99 I don't understand why this is so much.

[51|RandoM]

Yes they cost more (though not a Palm...you can get them for 100 bucks). And most Palm's have the same resolution.


The $100 palm doesn't have wireless or bluetooth. A free browser isn't going to do you much good.

The $100 palm screen resolution is 160x160.

[51|RandoM]

When Brain Age is only $19.99 I don't understand why this is so much.

Does brain age come with two cards, one rom and one ram? I wasn't aware of that.

[Serapth]

Yeah, your way off on the palm resolution. The shitty 100$ ones are 160x160 like random said. The majority are 320x240 and the highest end ones are 320x320. The only one with a higher resolution I can think of was that failed gaming palm machine, whose name I cant quite think of...

[bone_matrix]

If I was going on a long road trip, I'd probably buy it. I HATE the PSP web browser. Looking at Evil Avatar is a pain. Sure it has different view modes, but they pretty much all suck. And entering text on the PSP? $33 for the DS web browser is a drop in the bucket to not have to use a cell phone text input interface.

[Pantsmonkey]

I was reading about this last night very cool news, one of the best quotes I read was someone mentioning that for about $150 you have wireless interwebs on the go! and a HUGE market its huge HUGE.

http://my.opera.com/DotEd/homes/albums/89050/dsbrowser1.jpghttp://my.opera.com/DotEd/homes/albums/89050/dsbrowser7.jpg

I really hope that eventually when we get Wii Opera, that you can use this DS Opera keyboard in conjuction with the Wiimotes cursors and the touchpads tappyness for some new types of interactive broswing.

I wonder if you can use the Microphone input on the side of the DS as a Smackbook of sorts? Changing tabs for you... Theres tabs in Opera Right? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uvQTTPr9Rw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblog%2Emedallia%2Ecom%2F2006%2F0 5%2Fsmacbook%5Fpro%2Ehtml)

If webmessenger works you could have an IM machie to rule them all. (http://webmessenger.msn.com/)

Actually I realy don't see how you couldn't make use of the mic and some kind of web based chat portal.

One of the reviews I have read mentioned house automation through a simple hosted website. Allowing him to change things like his lights and what was downloading on his PC. etc.


The price is a non event we are all just use to getting browsers for free =)

[51|RandoM]

Hmm, some senator out there is going to start worrying about the DS as a porn portable.

[bone_matrix]

Hmm, some senator out there is going to start worrying about the DS as a porn portable.

Kids will pull porn out of thin air in their schools like magic!!!!!

Imagine the horror!!!

[jacktion]

Pretty cool, but $33 seems way to expensive for a web browser.



Jesus, you really won't let this too expensive thing go, will you? I want to rant like crazy but you are the senior penguin so I'll be nice.
1. You say the PSP's web browser was "free". But that simply isn't true. The PSP is like twice as expensive as the DS. If Sony had made the browser optional you would have been able to buy a way cheaper PSP and when you wanted a browser they would have charged you up the butt. Look at how much they charged for a program just to get movies onto your PSP! $20! So don't hold up Sony as a paradigm of virtue.
2. By saying that the DS browser is too expensive, it seems that you are referencing the tendency for browsers to be free on the web. But this is basically a portable web access point to do your mail, read forums, and just do anything web-related, cheaply and easily. This is a crazy value. Look at what else you need to do this. If you want to use your PSP you have to drop way more money just to get one. Then there are all the extras that make it cost more than a Xbox360. Plus have you tried typing on it? That is torture. If you go to buy a PDA those are hundreds of dollars! Way more than a DS. Or else you could use your laptop. That is only like $2000.

So it is pretty clear that this is by far the best value to have a small, cheap online solution. It looks good, it has a long battery-life. It has great games. Everyone that is reviewing the browser says it is very intuitive and works on every page they try.

I am not sure what you are complaining about but I think $33 for a portable device to go online anywhere is remarkably cheap. Next time I am sitting at the airport I will not be lugging my hot, heavy laptop. I'll just play a little mariokart and then check my email. I'll probably check EA too.

[bapenguin]

The $100 palm doesn't have wireless or bluetooth. A free browser isn't going to do you much good.

The $100 palm screen resolution is 160x160.

I stand corrected. I'm still not paying 33 fucking dollars for a web browser. I don't care how many carts they throw in it.

[Ravenlock]

I think it's $33 for the very simple reason that even if they don't end up buying it right away, every single person who owns a DS and has wireless internet capability is going to WANT one. Which means a lot of us will fork out the $33 straight away (I will), and the rest will pick it up later at a lower price point.

It's just too useful to not pick up eventually. Yes, PSP has a web browser, and yes it's free, but you'd have a very hard time convincing me that its functionality or ease of use comes close to what Opera's implemented here with the bottom-screen stylus keyboard. Not to mention that Opera's pretty much tied for "best browser around", slightly beating Firefox in terms of standards and slightly losing to it in terms of extendability.

I was on vacation this last weekend and didn't bring a laptop - the thought ran through my head SEVERAL times, "You know, if Opera was out for DS by now, I could just flip open my DS and [check local movie times] [find a map of town] [get my email] [check the departure delay at the airport] right here and now." To basically turn my DS Lite into a wirelessly web browsing PDA for $33 is, to me, a very fair deal.

[51|RandoM]

I stand corrected. I'm still not paying 33 fucking dollars for a web browser. I don't care how many carts they throw in it.


I hope you're not spending $15 on the xbox360 GRAW "expansion". :p

[Blue]

Meh, that 33 bucks will save me from having to haul my laptop around with me if I'm on vaca and just need to check mail and/or keep tabs on what's going on somewhere. That seems like a ridiculously fair price to me to do all of that. It's exactly what I would pay for one of the bigger new titles on the system (Metroid, Mario, I'm going to go ahead and guess Zelda), so the ability to fart around on the web on a much smaller machine while on-the-go seems perfect to me.

[ChaosDent]

That's right Ravenlock. Opera may be comparable to Firefox (at least without extensions) on the desktop, but they are absolutely unrivaled in the portable and embedded space. Many cell phone providers either offer Opera with their internet network or indeed charge a fee for it. Their small screen technology is amazing, and it is not cheap.

[SexualChoc]

I don't think I'll get it. Granted, it looks really nice, but I have a laptop. And that's got a huge fucking resolution. I can't see really when I would want to use it. I mean I have my PSP's browser. But it looks easier to manouever, but I can't see it warranting $33 (though they'll probably sting the UK for £33).

[NoName]

What I wonder is if the web browser will allow the DS to connect to internet connections requiring you to log in through a web portal. The lack of said ability has always been a pain, especially if you wanted to play in a public hotspot.

[Pantsmonkey]

What I wonder is if the web browser will allow the DS to connect to internet connections requiring you to log in through a web portal. The lack of said ability has always been a pain, especially if you wanted to play in a public hotspot.


They mentioned that in the article.

Hooks up your wep key and then slot in the cartridge. No logging in with the Opera broswer cart.

[Mozgus]

I hope this is the first of many steps that Nintendo will take in absorbing some of the Palm Pilot market. Back when they first announced the stylus and touch screen, one of the first things I said was that if Nintendo got aggresive for once, they could give the Palm-ers everything they had to begin with, along with some serious gaming power that no Palm has ever been technically capable of. You just know that Nintendo is fiddling around with the idea of a simple DS cart that contains all the standard Palm features.

[benig]

Once you see how absolutely polished and functional this browser is, you will realize where your 33 dollars is going. You aren't getting some slapped together piece of junk like the PSP browser, you are getting something you might actually use to browse the interweb. It even uses the handwriting recognition as seen in Brain Training as an alternative to an on-screen keyboard.

[Goronmon]

I want a DS badly...very badly...

[51|RandoM]

It will be interesting to see how nintendo markets this in the US. Will it just be a nice feature to add to the DS, or will they try to position the DS as a great portable web device, regardless of its gaming abilities?

[Pantsmonkey]

Moz I would not be surpised if Nintendo isn't offering a full fleet of non game user software on the Wii and DS eventually. But it's not like they can just start fucking over existing industries and making nasty enimies they are different to palm and are probably hoping that whatever they have planned for the little white hand held gets held in its own seperate light and not just a palm rip.

Make it a Wifi phone and IM client allready! /dreams (http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/06/27/130239.shtml)

How long does that DS Lite Battery last again? / Goes off pondering.

And 51 the new tack for down under advertising is.

The DS Lite will stop your old people from going crazy and amuse your young. they keep pumping the New Mario Bros DS / Classic mario tune every hour or so on the commercial channels.

[bapenguin]

I hope you're not spending $15 on the xbox360 GRAW "expansion". :p

I got it...doesn't mean I paid for it. :D

Fucking rip off along with those damn CoD2 maps.

[Ravenlock]

They mentioned that in the article.

Hooks up your wep key and then slot in the cartridge. No logging in with the Opera broswer cart.I must've missed that, and I just read the article again. I guess I don't see what you're saying. Since many hotspots (as I understand it) authenticate by MAC address and lease an IP for a fixed time period, seems to me you could boot up the DS with Opera, log into a hotspot to get an IP, then turn off the DS and put in a game cart and your DS's MAC address would still be registered for game playing.

But then, I'm having trouble parsing your second paragraph, so maybe that's what you're saying. I'm... not sure. :p

[Wyrm]

I only ever booted up my POSP's webbrowser one time, and it blew chunks. I actually took my PSP back last week and traded it in for a DS Lite and some games on GC and Xbox I had never played. Turns out the DS lite was a way better choice. Now I get a web browser option as well? Sweet.

You know, this actually seems like a logical price for the cart to be. At first, I went, 'WTF', but now I'm thinking, the internet is fucking enormous. I could probably sit on this little device all day long, checking my mail, reading the news, looking up movie times... etc. Since it's the same price as a DS game, I'm paying for a whole hell of a lot more content than some of those other games would offer.

The Brain Age arguement is silly. That game spent minimal time in development (probably less than the browser), and, while fun and addicting, is neither lengthy, nor is it even much of a game in the first place. They probably went through the entire development cycle in less than 6 months. That's why they can charge 20 bucks for it.

[PacerDawn]

Very cool, I'm certainly intrigued. Especially if it comes with a flash memory card!

However, I am a bit concerned about the security. One of the things I like about using my wireless laptop is that I control the security (firewalls, wireless protocol, etc). With the DS, you get WEP (a very easy to crack wireless encryption protocol) and that's it. WEP is completely useless for wireless security.

Well, WEP is just fine for gaming, because who cares if someone sees your gaming data fly across the web. However, with browsing comes passwords and the like, and that is an entirely different ballgame.

Also, while browsing on a portable device sounds really really cool on paper, in practice so far it sucks. I can browse with my iPaq for example, which has a nice large screen, but unless the site is formatted for a small screen device (and surprisingly few are), it is difficult to get around on them. You are constantly scrolling left-right-up-down and that gets annoying real fast.

So, intriguing, but there are still many questions...

[rein]

I stand corrected. I'm still not paying 33 fucking dollars for a web browser. I don't care how many carts they throw in it.

I agree. I think by charging for it, this much especially, it is going to turn many people away.

People can knock the PSP and it's browser all they want, but it is damn easy for anyone to get connected with it, and it is free.

[Pantsmonkey]

I must've missed that, and I just read the article again. I guess I don't see what you're saying. Since many hotspots (as I understand it) authenticate by MAC address and lease an IP for a fixed time period, seems to me you could boot up the DS with Opera, log into a hotspot to get an IP, then turn off the DS and put in a game cart and your DS's MAC address would still be registered for game playing.

But then, I'm having trouble parsing your second paragraph, so maybe that's what you're saying. I'm... not sure. :p

You have my appologies, I was mistaken. I originally read another review of the DS Broswer. A reivew that was seemingly generated as a suppliment to the one listed at the start of this thread. On the same dame My.opera pages no less :p

Interested in DS Opera have at this additional review here. (http://my.opera.com/DotEd/blog/show.dml/312665')

From Review

Plugging them in and turning the system on in a normal fashion, I asked Brian if there was “anything special I had to do to—I …guess not.” Online like that! Brian said it is the same as setting up to connect to any WiFi hotspot as you would a normal DS Game that has WiFi connectivity. So if you were trying to connect to a router with a WEP Key, you would need to handle that in advance and save your setting. The WiFi in the banquet room was open for free access and just as fast as you would have expected any other Opera browser to be, I was already accessing my blog on my.opera (pictures of my blog below), looking at eBay, and checking my web mail. All of this was so intuitive I hadn’t realized I wasn’t even asking for instructions, its seriously that intuitive.

A picture of the guys My.Opera Site on DS Lite Opera (http://my.opera.com/DotEd/homes/albums/89050/w600%20%2B%20ds%20lite.JPG)

That looks very readable IMO. Smartass taking a picture of his blog :p

[agentgray]

I got it...doesn't mean I paid for it. :D

Fucking rip off along with those damn CoD2 maps.
You need to read yesterday's Penny Arcade post and comic. You are not alone.

[mkelehan]

Let's remember that $33 is the Japanese price. It could be $30 here, it could be $20 here.

And when we're talking about screen real estate, it's important to remember that Opera DS spans both screens. Since web pages are vertical by nature, that's a good thing.

[51|RandoM]

I agree. I think by charging for it, this much especially, it is going to turn many people away.

yeah, those evil bastards at nintendo, wtf were they thinking? They should just give away rom and ram carts for free. You'd almost think they might have a profit motive the way they keep charging money for their products.

On a serious note, I would not be amazed to find this bundled with the DS at some point, with a discount.

[Dracula-X]

Yes they cost more (though not a Palm...you can get them for 100 bucks). And most Palm's have the same resolution.

DS Res: 320x480
Not that it matters at all, but it's 256x384 total (256x192 each screen), bapster :)

[Dracula-X]

My own thoughts on this: I use Opera on the desktop, I use mini Opera on the cellphone. Opera is a really nice browser and well worth it for the DS - $30 is easy to swallow for what you get. Although I'd rather see a $20 pricetag.

[Ravenlock]

Very cool, I'm certainly intrigued. Especially if it comes with a flash memory card!

However, I am a bit concerned about the security. One of the things I like about using my wireless laptop is that I control the security (firewalls, wireless protocol, etc). With the DS, you get WEP (a very easy to crack wireless encryption protocol) and that's it. WEP is completely useless for wireless security.

Well, WEP is just fine for gaming, because who cares if someone sees your gaming data fly across the web. However, with browsing comes passwords and the like, and that is an entirely different ballgame.

Also, while browsing on a portable device sounds really really cool on paper, in practice so far it sucks. I can browse with my iPaq for example, which has a nice large screen, but unless the site is formatted for a small screen device (and surprisingly few are), it is difficult to get around on them. You are constantly scrolling left-right-up-down and that gets annoying real fast.

So, intriguing, but there are still many questions...For security, you've got a very valid point. I was wondering about that to myself in the shower this morning. (Hey, you gotta think about something in there.) In addition to the sub-par WEP security, there's the issue that, presumably, a browser on a cart can't be patched. Opera's pretty secure at the moment, but 6 months down the road? 12? 18? There's potential cause for worry there, I think.

For small-screen browsing, though, check out the preview, or just go give Opera a try on a different mobile device. Opera does its own small-screen formatting and makes most pages look surprisingly readable. I trust them to get this part right, on all but the most annoyingly over-developed websites.

[Adam Blue]

Hell, I'd pay $33. Having the touch screen function is going to make browsing so effin easy on this thing. The PSP was a pain IMO. I don't like browsing the internet with a gamepad....on the Dreamcast I boguht the mouse and keyboard right away.

I think it's fine to charge it, mainly because it's a 3rd party browser that was created to take advantage of the touch screen. Along with that, they are adding a ram cart for both DS's.

[cppcrusader]

I hope this is the first of many steps that Nintendo will take in absorbing some of the Palm Pilot market. Back when they first announced the stylus and touch screen, one of the first things I said was that if Nintendo got aggresive for once, they could give the Palm-ers everything they had to begin with, along with some serious gaming power that no Palm has ever been technically capable of. You just know that Nintendo is fiddling around with the idea of a simple DS cart that contains all the standard Palm features.

Nintendo actually was working on something that would give the DS the features of a PDA. There was supposed to be an announcement about it at last year's E3 but nothing was said about it. I don't know if its been canned or if it evolved into this browser or what.

[chowweekly]

Kids will pull porn out of thin air in their schools like magic!!!!!

Imagine the horror!!!

Sadly, I would bet anything that we'll be hearing about this later from some uninformed jackass. I remember when they jumped on pictochat for being unsecure. Have these people forgotten what it's like being a kid? 4th grade humor is pretty much the word boobies. I remember one time my friends printed off a black and white picture of a lesbian licking a nipple and showed it to us on the school playground. Oooh, we barely escaped having some serious mental damage there.

Ever since printed porn was invented kids have been finding ways to look at it. It's not going to destroy their fragile little minds. Even children who suffer molestation at a young age usually go on without any serious mental anguish. Probably not the best analogy but it's true.

[Pinku!]

Thank God I hadn't upgraded my crappy old Tungsten E for something WiFi enabled; now I don't need to. While I do wonder how safe this will be, as someone that has neither a laptop nor wifi at home (I have one of those Nintendo USB doohickeys) this is absolutely wonderful. If AIM Express will work on it, even better.

Now if Nintendo actually does develop some PDA-esque software like a scheduler or a notepad I'm finally chucking my old clunky Tungsten for good.

[Opty]

What type of retard do you have to be to say that $33 is too much for a browser but the PSP's is free so it's better? The PSP is over $100 more than the DS, so you're happy paying that extra money to have a "free" browser but $30 bucks and it's a ripoff? What the fuck?

[Goronmon]

What type of retard do you have to be to say that $33 is too much for a browser but the PSP's is free so it's better?I'll give you a hint, it's spell F-A-N-B-O-Y. ;)

[bapenguin]

What type of retard do you have to be to say that $33 is too much for a browser but the PSP's is free so it's better? The PSP is over $100 more than the DS, so you're happy paying that extra money to have a "free" browser but $30 bucks and it's a ripoff? What the fuck?

I never said the PSPs browser was better. I simply said it was free.

I love my DS Lite. The only thing my psp gets used for anymore is watching movies.

The point is I already OWN both. I already paid it. I'm not dishing out additional money...except in the case of the DS.

The other point is...I could care less about web browsing on either handheld. 33 dollars is too much for a web browser, regardless of platform. Plain and simple.

[rubek]

Does anyone know whether you are able to view flash based sites?
Video? Not that it really matters for me, I would be using it for purely functional things like checking yellow pages, or movie times or something, but I wonder how flexible they have made this thing.
Still.. I can't wait! It's my birthday this Friday and I managed to convince my g/f to buy me a DS Lite, mostly because I played on her nostalgic love for all things Mario, and showed her some New Super Mario screens.... she went all mooshy.
We still have the original NES set up in our bedroom so she can play Super Mario Brothers. :)

EDIT: I have since found out that Flash is not supported, but javascript is at least.

[matrixsucks]

What type of retard do you have to be to say that $33 is too much for a browser but the PSP's is free so it's better? The PSP is over $100 more than the DS, so you're happy paying that extra money to have a "free" browser but $30 bucks and it's a ripoff? What the fuck?

According to ebgames.com

DS Lite (or original) - 130$
PSP Core- 200$

200-130=70. But wait, opera costs 33$

Therefore, 200 - 163 = 37.

There is a thirty seven dollar difference. I have both, so I don't plan on buying it; it is a rip off. In most games you pay for mostly the money it costs to develop the content (and to add money into their pockets), not the carts/disks. The empty carts should add no money to the over all cost.

Anywho, if you own a DS...I guess get it. It still shouldn't cost 30$ for a browser.

[Pantsmonkey]

I never said the PSPs browser was better. I simply said it was free.

I love my DS Lite. The only thing my psp gets used for anymore is watching movies.

The point is I already OWN both. I already paid it. I'm not dishing out additional money...except in the case of the DS.

The other point is...I could care less about web browsing on either handheld. 33 dollars is too much for a web browser, regardless of platform. Plain and simple.

How can you make such a justification Bap? Its like comparing the price of MS Office vs Halo PC.

This one piece of software will create a massive market even at $30. At least they get meaningful sales numbers, not giving it away for free!

You could pre program some DS RES friendly Websites for a tour group in a museum say and have all relevant facts wirelessly available, for each member of the tour.

Campus IM clients from HELL. Office Messangers and pages. I worked in satellite comms for 5 years. Opera DS with a satellite phone = TINY, ROBUST and simple emails anywhere on the planet.

This makes the DS lite powerfully small. and functioanl in a web enviroment.

It deserves its price and price alone won't stop it selling millions of pieces of DS hardware and Opera Software.

http://www.sveasoft.com/ in Fiji + DS-Lite + Opera + Plus games + Mojito FTW!

Any guesses on how many units shipped we will see?

And how hard would it be to update sites or an offshoot to a DS friendly template format?

This will take off quickly and in high volume like Ipods its not going to take off slow and steady and selectivley like Palm systems!

[51|RandoM]

YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE BROWSER FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

You're paying for the rom cart and the ram cart.

jesus christ there are some idiots on this site.

If you know how to produce both of those items for $0, you should call Nintendo, they'll hire you.

[Ravenlock]

I am dissapointed that Flash won't be supported, as it works so well in Opera 9 and I have to assume there would be a way to get it to work.

Oh well. Doesn't change my purchasing decision, but it's a shame.

[matrixsucks]

YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE BROWSER FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

You're paying for the rom cart and the ram cart.

jesus christ there are some idiots on this site.

If you know how to produce both of those items for $0, you should call Nintendo, they'll hire you.

Three carts do not cost 33$ to manufacture.

If they cost 5$ I'll eat my shoe.

[BladeXFighter]

WTF?! Why would I pay for opera and wtf would I have a DS for anyway??? Too much money I COULD DO SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIRTY THREE FUCKING DOLLARS. Whatthe fuck do they think they are doing asking me to pay that for the INTERNET on NINTENDO DS.

[Ravenlock]

WTF?! Why would I pay for opera and wtf would I have a DS for anyway??? Too much money I COULD DO SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIRTY THREE FUCKING DOLLARS. Whatthe fuck do they think they are doing asking me to pay that for the INTERNET on NINTENDO DS.

....Oh look, a troll.

Do not feed the troll.