Live Dashboard Update Tour

[Karas]

There's a 20 minute video tour of the upcoming Xbox 360 dashboard update over at Gamevideos (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/3954).

It's a bit lengthy but, it really shows off where Microsoft wants to go with the Marketplace.

[Dirty Harry]

It's a bit lengthy but, it really shows off where Microsoft wants to go with the Marketplace.
Yeah, your wallet....

[LarsenNET]

Enough with the showing how about releasing it (Along with a complete and lag free Street Fighter 2).

[TegSkywalker]

I'm sick of all these features on the Xbox 360 dashboard update in the last week. Yes... we get the point so just release the fucking thing.

[Morangie]

Yeah, your wallet....

Curse that corporation, trying to make money! CURSE THEM.

[The Flash]

There's a 20 minute video tour of the upcoming Xbox 360 dashboard update over at Gamevideos (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/3954).

It's a bit lengthy but, it really shows off where Microsoft wants to go with the Marketplace.

I think this was linked already in the first spring update by bap...

Edit - This (http://gamevideos.com/video/watch?video=3954&largeFormat=wmv) is it. It's in a bigger format as well.

[Rirath]

Yeah, your wallet....

Agreed. People act like MS is giving us some wonderful gift or revolutionary update.
I'm just happy for download queuing and boot-to-console, mainly.

[TrackZero]

I think this was linked already in the first spring update by bap...

Edit - This (http://gamevideos.com/video/watch?video=3954&largeFormat=wmv) is it. It's in a bigger format as well.

Bap's just jonsing for this update so he can post his "junk" as his friends icon. *shudder*

[Kefkataran]

Bap's just jonsing for this update so he can post his "junk" as his friends icon. *shudder*

I want to state for the record that the cute cuddly panda bear will remain my friends icon. I'm so fucking adorable it's unbelievable!

[Jack B]

Agreed. People act like MS is giving us some wonderful gift or revolutionary update.
I'm just happy for download queuing and boot-to-console, mainly.

If you watch the 20 minute video, you'll see quite a few changes. As for how revolutionary it is.... 360 Live seems to have two camps.

One that thinks Live is revolutionary and another that thinks it's just slightly more sophisticated than WOW, Ultima Online, Gamespy, Steam or another MMO.

Remember it's not just one game, it's supporting 58 games at the moment with multiplayer, chat, friends lists, scoreboards, auto updates and single signon ecomerce in over 30 different countries.

I would think that's a little more challenging than a few MMO servers on a single game.

Anyway, I think we'll learn more about how difficult it is when we see the Sony and Nintendo offerings this Xmas. Neither are trying to be as ambitious as Microsoft, but on the other hand if it's that easy, they should be able to come close with little difficulty and provide us with bi-annual updates for free as well.

[Heretic Machine]

One that thinks Live is revolutionary and another that thinks it's just slightly more sophisticated than WOW, Ultima Online, Gamespy, Steam or another MMO.

Neither Gamespy, Steam, nor Live are MMO's. They are gameing hubs, with match-making services.

[Kelegacy]

I want to state for the record that the cute cuddly panda bear will remain my friends icon. I'm so fucking adorable it's unbelievable!
I think it's incredibly gay.

Notice that I used the word gay, the word that you DESPISE as an adjective, but this isn't in the derogatory sense. It's just cementing a fact. So there.

[Jack B]

Neither Gamespy, Steam, nor Live are MMO's. They are gameing hubs, with match-making services.

Perigon,

Yes, I know that. Give me a little credit.... :)

They are all examples of having some portion of Xbox 360 Live functionalty. For those that have tried Live and and all the mentioned services, that is painfully obvious, but still many who haven't tried Xbox Live or 360 Live compare it to some other ecommerce or MMO type service incorrectly, when it's so much more.

To a percentage of the posters, Live is just not that complex or sophisticated. Hence, some of the flames on the service or complaints about UI or delay in the updates etc, as it shouldn't be that hard..., when I believe it is that hard.

Sony should snap out a similar service if its truly that easy. I doubt they will, because only when we see a similar offering will we really have something to compare Live against, IMO.

[Heretic Machine]

Perigon,

Yes, I know that. Give me a little credit.... :)

They are all examples of having some portion of Xbox 360 Live functionalty. For those that have tried Live and and all the mentioned services, that is painfully obvious, but still many who haven't tried Xbox Live or 360 Live compare it to some other ecommerce or MMO type service incorrectly, when it's so much more.

To a percentage of the posters, Live is just not that complex or sophisticated. Hence, some of the flames on the service or complaints about UI or delay in the updates etc, as it shouldn't be that hard..., when I believe it is that hard.

Sony should snap out a similar service if its truly that easy. I doubt they will, because only when we see a similar offering will we really have something to compare Live against, IMO.

Now, while I do pay for Live, I don't think anything that it does couldn't be done easily for free. None of the games are hosted on Microsoft servers, so the majority of the bandwidth being used is on the consumer's side. I am somewhat glad that it is a pay-service though, otherwise they likely wouldn't bother putting the work into it that they do, and we'd be left with an ununified online platform similar to what Sony has going.

[Ludoc]

Now, while I do pay for Live, I don't think anything that it does couldn't be done easily for free. None of the games are hosted on Microsoft servers, so the majority of the bandwidth being used is on the consumer's side.
As posted in this thread: (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12916) Microsoft sends word that...during E3 there were over 5 million downloads equaling 6 tera bytes of data.

That's what your Live fees are paying for. For a little more discussion on this listen to this week's Gaming Steve podcast. (http://www.gamingsteve.com/)

[Heretic Machine]

As posted in this thread: (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12916)

That's what your Live fees are paying for. For a little more discussion on this listen to this week's Gaming Steve podcast. (http://www.gamingsteve.com/)

Yes, downloads that are free to everyone. They aren't just for Gold members.

[Pumped'Up]

There's a 20 minute video tour of the upcoming Xbox 360 dashboard update over at Gamevideos (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/3954).

It's a bit lengthy but, it really shows off where Microsoft wants to go with the Marketplace.
Microsoft should focus on bringing out good games for the $400 next gen system...not some pretty looking Dashboard...sheesh.

[Jack B]

Now, while I do pay for Live, I don't think anything that it does couldn't be done easily for free. None of the games are hosted on Microsoft servers, so the majority of the bandwidth being used is on the consumer's side. I am somewhat glad that it is a pay-service though, otherwise they likely wouldn't bother putting the work into it that they do, and we'd be left with an ununified online platform similar to what Sony has going.

Agreed.

It could be free and the costs absorbed by 360 or software sales. It's a business model decision. However, as strange as it sounds, I'd rather pay...

Microsoft would likely put less effort into a "free" Live service and $4 a month is well worth it for a quality service, IMO.

I'm one of the 55% or so 360 users and spend about 50% of my time on multiplayer games.

[Ludoc]

Some one has to pay for them. MS offsets their cost for bandwidth by charging Gold members a premium. As you said the Gold members' provide their own bandwidth for games. Those of us who like to play online and pay for the privilege are actually subsidizing everyone else's downloads.

Xbox Live: From each according to his ability to pay for online multiplayer; to each according to each according to his need to download trailers and demos.

[Jack B]

Microsoft should focus on bringing out good games for the $400 next gen system...not some pretty looking Dashboard...sheesh.

Pumped Up,

You'll be glad to know (actually, I doubt it, since I've seen many of your previous anti-Microsoft posts) that Microsoft is working on over 10+ 1st party titles. I'd expect they have far more employees/developers working on those titles than the Live service, unless you have some facts to back up your "focus" claim.

As for working on "good games". Here's a pretty good place to start while trying to decide if Microsoft is indeed focusing on bringing us good games.

It's the consensus awards by game critics from 37 different publications. Microsoft has an extremely solid lineup.

http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/nom-stats-2006.html

This year the Game Critics Awards committee nominated 54 products from 20 publishers.

Games With Multiple Nominations
Five Nominations:
Gears of War

Four Nominations:
Assassin's Creed
Bioshock
Spore

Three Nominations:
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
LocoRoco

Two Nominations:
Crysis
Elite Beat Agents
Hellgate: London
Mass Effect
Nintendo Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Supreme Commander
Wii Sports
World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade


Publisher Breakdown
(Plus Trend Analysis Over Past 3 Years)

14 Nominations:
Nintendo
(+2 from 2005, +3 from 2004, +8 from 2003)

11 Nominations:
Electronic Arts
(-5 from 2005, Same as 2004, +5 from 2003)

10 Nominations:
Sony Computer Entertainment
(+2 from 2005 and 2004, +4 from 2003)

9 Nominations:
Microsoft
(+1 from 2005, Sane from 2004, -4 from 2003)

6 Nominations:
Take Two Interactive
(+3 from 2005, +6 from 2004 and 2003)

5 Nominations:
THQ
(+4 from 2005, +2 from 2004, +1 from 2003)

4 Nominations:
Activision
(Same as 2005, -2 from 2004, -3 from 2003)
Ubisoft
(+3 from 2005, Same as 2004, +2 from 2003)

3 Nominations:
Namco Bandai
(Same as 2005)

2 Nominations:
Atari
(+1 from 2005)
Sega
(Same as 2005)

1 Nomination:
Buena Vista Games (new)
Capcom
(-2 from 2005, -2 from 2004, -1 from 2003)
Konami (+1 from 2005)
Logitech (new)
Midway (-1 from 2005, Same as 2004, +1 from 2003)
Square Enix (-1 from 2005)
Webzen (new)
Red Octane (new)

Nominee Breakdown by Platform
(Multiplatform games are counted in all appropriate platform tallies. Information based on announced platforms for each game as of 5/21/06. Tally excludes nominations in hardware category.)

PC: 29 (Same as 2005, -1 from 2004, +4 from 2003)
Xbox 360: 21 (+9 from 2005, N/A in 2004 or 2003)
PS3: 10 (new)
PSP: 9 (-2 from 2005, +7 from 2004, N/A in 2003)
Wii: 9 (new)
PS2: 7 (-19 from 2005, -19 from 2004, -15 from 2003)
DS: 3 (-9 from 2005, +1 from 2004, N/A in 2003)
Xbox: 2 (-12 from 2005, -24 from 2004, -18 from 2003)
GC: 1 (-11 from 2005, -17 from 2004, -13 from 2003)
Arcade: 1 (new)

[Heretic Machine]

Microsoft should focus on bringing out good games for the $400 next gen system...not some pretty looking Dashboard...sheesh.

They are too busy working on a pill that with cure the fanboys (like you) of their horrible, horrible disease.

[Banacek]

They are too busy working on a pill that with cure the fanboys (like you) of their horrible, horrible disease.

I thought they were working on a surgery that will remove the sticks that get caught up people's asses...

[Heretic Machine]

I thought they were working on a surgery that will remove the sticks that get caught up people's asses...

Look, maybe you aren't aware, but the only thing that Pumped'Up does is troll 360 and Nintendo topics, and make topics about how great the PSP is. You defend him if you want to, but you're only making yourself look like an ass.

[Banacek]

Look, maybe you aren't aware, but the only thing that Pumped'Up does is troll 360 and Nintendo topics, and make topics about how great the PSP is. You defend him if you want to, but you're only making yourself look like an ass.

hahaha, no, I was joking about Pumped'Up. I know what he is. That wasn't aimed at you at all.

[Heretic Machine]

hahaha, no, I was joking about Pumped'Up. I know what he is. That wasn't aimed at you at all.

Oh, ok :p Well... guess I'm an ass then. :o

[Jack B]

As posted in this thread: (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12916)

That's what your Live fees are paying for. For a little more discussion on this listen to this week's Gaming Steve podcast. (http://www.gamingsteve.com/)

Ludoc,

Thanks for the GamerSteve podcast link. Yet, another Podcast to subscribe to... :)

[Bumbuliuz]

I want it so bad. Like so many other of you.

[Ludoc]

Ludoc,

Thanks for the GamerSteve podcast link. Yet, another Podcast to subscribe to... :)

I'm just hear to spread the love. ;) Next to Kef's podcast it's the one I most look forward to each week.

If only there were a way to download podcasts straight to my 360. *cough* fall update *cough*

[Jack B]

I'm just hear to spread the love. ;) Next to Kef's podcast it's the one I most look forward to each week.

If only there were a way to download podcasts straight to my 360. *cough* fall update *cough*

Not a bad idea. I listen while riding my bike, working out or playing 360 games, but it would be nice if you could somehow subscribe via Live without having to copy via USB.

[Watership]

Agreed. People act like MS is giving us some wonderful gift or revolutionary update.
I'm just happy for download queuing and boot-to-console, mainly.

You know, refinement is good. Free refinement is also good. Also, why do people keep talking about it being a live update, or a marketplace update. It's a DASHBOARD update.

[Watership]

Microsoft should focus on bringing out good games for the $400 next gen system...not some pretty looking Dashboard...sheesh.

What a troll post. MS is big enough to more than ONE THING AT A TIME. Did you see the list of games coming to 360 in the next few months? Did you notice that they have different DEPARTMENTS at MS? God.

[Wonka]

What a troll post. MS is big enough to more than ONE THING AT A TIME. Did you see the list of games coming to 360 in the next few months? Did you notice that they have different DEPARTMENTS at MS? God.

Maybe we need a sign? :

Please do not feed the trolls!
(they seem to thrive on being taken seriously)
Thank you for your cooperation...

[Paranoia]

Microsoft should focus on bringing out good games for the $400 next gen system...not some pretty looking Dashboard...sheesh.

Why don't you tell that to your precious Sony? Guess what have they been doing lately:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060529/pssig.htm

[Eran Hawke]

Kudos to mIcrosoft for improving the level of service.

This is the kind of attitude that builds long-term customers. Screwing yous customers over like Sony does may serve short-term profits, but just pisses people off in the long haul.

Microsoft is making a fan outta me. I may be picking up a 360.