Battlefield 2 - 1.3 Patch Drops

[ÜberJumper]

Looks like the 1.3 Patch for Battlefield 2 has dropped!

New Features!


NEW FEATURES

- Air dropped vehicles: Squad members can now send a request up the chain of command for a vehicle to be dropped at their location.
- Co-op: Co-op Mode allows you to play Single Player levels on the Internet and LAN with both AI controlled bots and human players. Several new options have been created that will allow the server creator to modify how the bots behave in game.
- Number of Bots: This setting allows you to determine the total number of bots that will spawn in game.
- Bot Ratio: This setting allows you to determine the percentage of total bots that will spawn for each team. For example, setting this value to 25 means that 25% of the total bots will spawn in Team 1, and 75% in Team 2. Team 1 is always the MEC, Chinese, or their allies, while Team 2 is always the USA, EU, and their allies.
- Bot Difficulty: This setting determines the skill level of the bots. 10 is easiest, 100 is the most difficult.
- Default Kit Selection: The kit that you used last is remembered at the beginning of the round and between maps.

Shamelessly stolen from the BF2s.com forums (http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=25525) (where there's a huge list of download locations). See this post (http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=25525) for more info.

[Steve_Erhardt]

YES! No more running back to the rear for the gear! Co-op will be nice too.

Only thing I'd like to see now at this point is bots for EVERY map. But regardless, this has made my day.

[Deadend]

So, what bugs does this update add?

[torrefaction]

Hell fuck yeah. Vehicle drops. That's sick.

Steve...You play? What's your handle? You on Xfire?

[Steve_Erhardt]

my handle is just "Erhardt"

no Xfire for me... not until such time as Trillian adds it, anyhow... I tried it for a while when it first came out, but there's just too many IM programs out to keep track of anymore so if it's not in Trillian, I don't worry about it. =P

[Maskatron]

Is this the patch that fucks with the squads? Or is that coming later?

[endrom]

oh my god, vehicle drops... best idea ever. That combined with the expanded bot use is gonna be awesome, downloading now.
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[TheKeck]

Is this the patch that fucks with the squads? Or is that coming later?
I don't see anything in the notes about squad hopping. Maybe the little petition worked. :confused:

[huntr]

maybe u guys dont know how to read

"If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once."

[Steve_Erhardt]

Is this the patch that fucks with the squads? Or is that coming later?
You mean fix it so squads can't swap leaders as they get killed and keep on spawning on them?

- If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once.

Makes good sense to me, really. Means you actually need to keep your squad leader alive, teamwork, etc.

It was a small exploit, IMO, but a good one to plug, I think.

[TheKeck]

maybe u guys dont know how to read

"If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once."
Oops, I missed it. :o

[TheKeck]

You mean fix it so squads can't swap leaders as they get killed and keep on spawning on them?

- If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once.

Makes good sense to me, really. Means you actually need to keep your squad leader alive, teamwork, etc.

It was a small exploit, IMO, but a good one to plug, I think.
I would like to reiterate, though, that you don't really need to keep the squad leader alive. If you can just get him to leave the squad then there will be a new leader and people can spawn on him.

The old leader, of course, won't be able to come back, though. Most of the time when I've done this, it's been with just one or two other people, so it effectively eliminates that kind of action.

[swiftdraw]

That squad hopping was such a expliot. Got on the Mosque's roof on M-City with a sniper, a support guy, and I was a medic. Eveytime the squad leader died, and couldn't revive him, we'd squad hop. Held the center the entire game and we ended up winning the map. Blackhawk couldn't kill us since they nerfed the minigun, and with the .50 cal our sniper could just take out the pilot or gunner.

[AversionFX]

I would like to reiterate, though, that you don't really need to keep the squad leader alive. If you can just get him to leave the squad then there will be a new leader and people can spawn on him.

The old leader, of course, won't be able to come back, though. Most of the time when I've done this, it's been with just one or two other people, so it effectively eliminates that kind of action.

Uhm. You can't spawn on the new leader if you haven't spawned once.

Roger is the squadleader. Everyone spawns on him. Everyone except Bob gets killed.

Roger leaves the squad, Bob becomes squadleader.

NOBODY CAN SPAWN ON BOB IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY SPAWNED AT AN OWNED BASED WHILE BOB WAS SQUADLEADER.

So no, your trick wouldn't work. It's a leader thing, not a squad thing.

[fndarkone]

looks like mpsmith is slacking on the bf2 news. howd you let someone else post this before you?!

[bean19]

I'm over the Battlefield series and the l337 air vehicles. Bring on the Quake Wars.

[51|RandoM]

I'm glad they changed the squad thing, personally. It was intended to be used the way it was.

The petition is about 100% crybaby clanboys who don't want to learn anything new.

[markster3000]

What?!

Man, I just downloaded the most recent patch yesterday! (having just installed BF2 on my computer, yesterday)

I am in patch land.

[torrefaction]

The squad thing was a bunch of BS. I refused to do it. Pissed of a few people too. It was an exploit, and stupid...and...yeah. I wanted to be more eloquent about this, but it's just fucking stupid.

[reimomo]

I'm over the Battlefield series and the l337 air vehicles. Bring on the Quake Wars.

You mean you want a game where anti-aircraft weapons exist as something other than 1) stationary targets that get bombarded by any intelligent pilot, and 2) jeeps? Perish the thought...

[ÜberJumper]

There's two exploits re: squad spawning (as I see it).

1. Sending multiple people behind enemy lines individually, when they get there, they form a squad, then when folks are dead, they spawn on the squad leader and start taking points behind the lines.

2. A squad leader is killed in combat, to keep the squad rolling, he exits the squad and spawns back into it.

Both, IMO, are exploits although the 1st one is the one that pisses me off the most.

[ÜberJumper]

reimomo:

Don't forget the AA vehicles!

Ever since they improved AA in the last patch, I've had a LOT of fun shooting down jets and Choppers. They still need to improve the AAA (that's anti-aircraft artillery) against choppers though. AA Missles are fine... and look to be even better in this patch now that they won't chase after friendly vehicles.

[Bushido]

Thispatch adds the bug where I get a Tank at a flag and proceed to own at maximum pace.

[Suicidal ShiZuru]

We need a patch to add properly working AT missles... Fucking bullshit trying to take out a tank or any other armor alone. It should take two direct hits maximum to destroy it or it hsould be disable in some way.

[TheKeck]

Uhm. You can't spawn on the new leader if you haven't spawned once.

Roger is the squadleader. Everyone spawns on him. Everyone except Bob gets killed.

Roger leaves the squad, Bob becomes squadleader.

NOBODY CAN SPAWN ON BOB IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY SPAWNED AT AN OWNED BASED WHILE BOB WAS SQUADLEADER.

So no, your trick wouldn't work. It's a leader thing, not a squad thing.
If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once.

None of those players joined the squad while they were dead. If this text is right, then you are wrong.

[fndarkone]

We need a patch to add properly working AT missles... Fucking bullshit trying to take out a tank or any other armor alone. It should take two direct hits maximum to destroy it or it hsould be disable in some way.
it does take 2 hits, if you know how to use them.

[ÜberJumper]

Two hits indeed, aim for the tracks.

[Limech]

There's two exploits re: squad spawning (as I see it).

1. Sending multiple people behind enemy lines individually, when they get there, they form a squad, then when folks are dead, they spawn on the squad leader and start taking points behind the lines.

2. A squad leader is killed in combat, to keep the squad rolling, he exits the squad and spawns back into it.

Both, IMO, are exploits although the 1st one is the one that pisses me off the most.

So basically this was occuring for an entire year before Dice decided to come out and say that it's an exploit?

Personally, have fun being raped as USMC on maps like Dragon Valley, Clean Sweep and Dalian Plant. Sometimes the only way the Americans managed to get out of their hole where they were camped and killed upon spawn was if one guy made it out alive. Now, that single guy needs to turn a back flag on his own with the commander seeing his every move with radar/UAV.

Those maps are going to disappear server rotations within a week just for this reason.

[feeble]

So basically this was occuring for an entire year before Dice decided to come out and say that it's an exploit?

Personally, have fun being raped as USMC on maps like Dragon Valley, Clean Sweep and Dalian Plant. Sometimes the only way the Americans managed to get out of their hole where they were camped and killed upon spawn was if one guy made it out alive. Now, that single guy needs to turn a back flag on his own with the commander seeing his every move with radar/UAV.

Those maps are going to disappear server rotations within a week just for this reason.


not entirelly true


you just need better planning

when that guy gets through, ask your alive guys to join the squad, and either wait till they die or suicide to spawn in on him

[ÜberJumper]

Limech:

Say on Dragon Valley (64), you're american. You're fighting for marketplace, and a squad leader breaks out to go behind enemy lines. He makes it near a flag, and while the enemy is constantly UAVing marketplace, people join his squad, and after dying once defending marketplace, they can then spawn on him.

It doesn't completely change the tactic, just delays it a bit.

The squad cycling it will cut down on, which is a good thing IMO. The european half of our crew is big on cycling the squad to keep a squad leader in the fight. I don't particularly find that aspect of the game in the spirit of the squad leader system (as I see it anyway), but it's effective, and it works.

[Lunar Blue]

I'd say it was hardly an exploit, but something that IMO could really make the clan matches more fun. And it doesn't matter whether you liked it or not, you just had to use it to win the other bastards doing it as well. I think it will be interesting people can't ninja flags so easily now, when before one guy drives to a flag and when he stops, 3 other guys spawn at the jeep. Now they actually have to plan that shit. In example Bob forms a squad, 5 guys join him and commit suicide, then prepare to spawn in his apc at a hostile flag.

But yeah, i agree, most of the crying and whining is from noobs who don't know what adapting means.

[torrefaction]

I'd just like to update this thread and say this.

Vehicle dropping fucking rocks.